The Syndicate

I feel like the ideal for mafia would've been to pick roles over players. They'd like receive knowledge on all roles and be able to pick the strongest ones to counter town.

Justplayingitcool wrote: ↑Sun Feb 13, 2022 6:31 pm
Creature wrote: ↑Sun Feb 13, 2022 6:29 pm
Justplayingitcool wrote: ↑Sun Feb 13, 2022 6:25 pm Im glad this game ended when it dis because thought for sure i’d be spending most of it defending myself
I sorta had it POEd down to you and Sloonei the last night so it definitely would've been hell.
Glad I got there on dya

I can take solace that I didn’t play like a complete ass

You did pretty well defending yourself. Like, the only way you'd be wolf for me is if you have some experience dissuading players from pushing you as wolf.

Justplayingitcool wrote: ↑Sun Feb 13, 2022 6:25 pm Im glad this game ended when it dis because thought for sure i’d be spending most of it defending myself

I sorta had it POEd down to you and Sloonei the last night so it definitely would've been hell.

Belzy wrote: ↑Sun Feb 13, 2022 6:11 pm
c4e5g3d5 wrote: ↑Sun Feb 13, 2022 6:09 pm
Belzy wrote: ↑Sun Feb 13, 2022 6:09 pm I think i never played a good game until now with 20+ players in it, and it was 30+ lol
You need to experience 140
Omg, that is too long. I waa begging to get soupkilled at one point lol

The last two Mafia Universe anniversary mashes were like this and I lived pretty long in both. Imagine the pain.

sabie12 wrote: ↑Sun Feb 13, 2022 5:31 pm
Creature wrote: ↑Sun Feb 13, 2022 5:28 pm
Belzy wrote: ↑Sun Feb 13, 2022 5:15 pm
Creature wrote: ↑Sun Feb 13, 2022 5:11 pm Jesus I just came into townreading dyachei last night

I am an embarrassment.
Lol, my lasts posts were well in honour regarding Dya lol

Gg Creature, you were great. Especially in the end that's been very crucial
Thank you for playing that last day with me. I would've probably gone crazy without you around to give me the confidence.
Thank you for defending me creature. It helped keep in the game.

Yeah, it was pretty crazy town was considering lynching their own night vig. Your actions were pretty wtf for a wolf night vig.

My thought process for dyachei was: why would mafia give their only killing role to dyachei instead of someone else better at powerwolfing?

Had the same process for sabie12 and I think that was a lot stronger for sabie12 than for dyachei.

The third party were probably the mvp of this game.

Belzy wrote: ↑Sun Feb 13, 2022 5:15 pm
Creature wrote: ↑Sun Feb 13, 2022 5:11 pm Jesus I just came into townreading dyachei last night

I am an embarrassment.
Lol, my lasts posts were well in honour regarding Dya lol

Gg Creature, you were great. Especially in the end that's been very crucial

Thank you for playing that last day with me. I would've probably gone crazy without you around to give me the confidence.

Syn wrote: ↑Sun Feb 13, 2022 5:15 pm Thanks for playing, everyone! Job well done!

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Gotta join em all

Jesus I just came into townreading dyachei last night

I am an embarrassment.

40 minutes left...

I was considering going hail mary on dyachei, but now I changed my mind.

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Wed Feb 02, 2022 7:10 am Midday votecount:

sig ( 13 ): alexa, Master Radishes, Paopan, falcon45ca, DrWilgy, Justplayingitcool, Belzy, sabie12, hollowkatt, TonyStarkPrime, c4e5g3d5, LinearPoint, 112
hollowkatt ( 11 ): Phil and Gloria, Master Radishes, Belzy, Paopan, Sloonei, sabie12, 112, falcon45ca, dyachei, DrWilgy, alexa
DrWilgy ( 10 ): sabie12, dyachei, c4e5g3d5, falcon45ca, Paopan, Phil and Gloria, LinearPoint, hollowkatt, Creature, alexa
Guillotine ( 10 ): ilario, Belzy, Sloonei, c4e5g3d5, falcon45ca, dyachei, TonyStarkPrime, 112, LinearPoint, Phil and Gloria
112 ( 9 ): Sabie, dya, alexa, paopan, TSP, creature, falcon, guillo, wilgy
c4e5g3d5 ( 9 ): Falcon, sabie, paopan, linearpoint, dya, sloonei, belzy, TSP, wilgy
sabie12 ( 9 ): DrWilgy, dyachei, Paopan, Sloonei, c4e5g3d5, Master Radishes, TonyStarkPrime, Phil and Gloria, 112
TonyStarkPrime ( 9 ): Master Radishes, alexa, Justplayingitcool, sabie12, DrWilgy, hollowkatt, Creature, LinearPoint, falcon45ca
Justplayingitcool ( 8 ): DrWilgy, dyachei, Sloonei, alexa, sabie12, ilario, Belzy, Paopan
Paopan ( 8 ): DrWilgy, Justplayingitcool, alexa, sabie12, hollowkatt, TonyStarkPrime, LinearPoint, Phil and Gloria
LinearPoint ( 7 ): Guillotine, Phil and Gloria, Sloonei, hollowkatt, Creature, c4e5g3d5, falcon45ca
alexa ( 3 ): Phil and Gloria, guillo, TSP
falcon45ca ( 3 ): 112, Guillotine, Belzy
Phil and Gloria ( 3 ): 112, Belzy, hollowkatt
Master Radishes ( 2 ): Belzy, hollowkatt
Sloonei ( 2 ): hollowkatt, 112

Not sure if this was looked at

Guess I ain't really got anything very useful from ISOs. JPIC looks worse, LinearPoint looks somewhat better, Sloonei and dyachei might have been pocketing attempts.

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Sun Jan 30, 2022 6:33 pm
Justplayingitcool wrote: ↑Sun Jan 30, 2022 6:32 pm [VOTE: Porscha] aubergine

flash wagon time
Towny minmeld

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Sun Jan 30, 2022 5:47 pm Ender, Wilgy, LP all acceptable chops on the top of my head.

Rule of three?

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Sun Jan 30, 2022 10:36 am
LinearPoint wrote: ↑Fri Jan 28, 2022 8:25 pm Neeko doesn't know many here so Neeko doesn't know who would be good pick. Nutella sounds tasty though, so Neeko would have picked that. Yum.

LinearPoint wrote: ↑Fri Jan 28, 2022 8:34 pm
Urist wrote: ↑Fri Jan 28, 2022 8:33 pm You should out nutella's role so that she gets souped if town
lol what? The fuck does that even mean?
This is the alleged slip that Urist pointed out, the accusation being that LP feigned ignorance about the soup kill. I don't really think going off of slips like this yields the best results, cause I've seen a lot of town miss stuff or assume stuff and it being seen as a slip. I think actual slips are very rare. However, LP is later claiming that they did read the OP, but that Nanook must have edited it. I don't know if this happened, but it seems a bit unlikely? Why not just say that you missed the part about the soup kill instead of "No, it changed"? Maybe this has more to do with LP's personality than anything. I could see LP trying to feign ignorance here, but I don't think that is a slam dunk thing at all.

But reading through LP's iso, I just end up with very mixed feelings. I've only played one game day with them before, but they were obvious town to me in that game. This game, I don't get the same feeling. At the same time, there's actually a lot of content and analysis to read. A lot of the analysis doesn't really make sense to me, but that was the same as last game. What I think may be different is that last game they eventually became very town leader-y and sorted people pretty aggressively and had much more impact overall. I wish I had a more firm take here, but I don't. If others have more experience with LP, please share.

LinearPoint wrote: ↑Sat Jan 29, 2022 3:39 am
nutella wrote: ↑Sat Jan 29, 2022 3:36 am Marmot still worst iso in the game but ender is close
Does Marmot not usually forgo reading?
Neeko thought that's what Marmot did and that seems to be the pattern in Marmot iso.
Pretty much identical so far to Team Fortress Mafia where Marmot was Town.
There's also this, which is the only thing LP has posted about Marmot. This being the only thing in their iso when there's a lot of content isn't great in itself.

And ther's been a lot of discussion around LP, and if they're mafia there might be a lot of anti-alignments to draw from it. I could see them being mafia here, so I'm not opposed to chopping them.

Would also like to know where LP is at with reads/sorting right now.

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Sun Jan 30, 2022 7:22 am Sloonei doesn't mention Marmot at all in his ISO. I would maybe expect him to if he had TMI on Marmot, but that is also dependent on how much of the game state he was aware of. And seems like he's mostly out of it. In any case, I don't think Sloonei is my favourite kill/chop this day. He looks legit busy.

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Sat Jan 29, 2022 9:10 pm Alright, if I'm shot by a town gg gl, no hard feelings. Gotta sleep.

Dya
Alexa
Belzy
Sean
Guillo
Alison

Nut
Ilario
Jpic
MR

^towns.

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Sat Jan 29, 2022 8:22 pm All these vigs in the world. If I had a vig shot I'd shoot Scotty or Mac. But also, don't listen to me. What I really would've done is just give the shot to Dya because Dya GOAT.

This feels pockety

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Sat Jan 29, 2022 7:49 pm Who shot Marmot?

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Sat Jan 29, 2022 7:50 pm
hollowkatt wrote: ↑Sat Jan 29, 2022 7:49 pm
dyachei wrote: ↑Sat Jan 29, 2022 7:41 pmyou're welcome
GOAT
Oh, dya. Nice job

Does this spew dya?

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Sat Jan 29, 2022 1:29 pm I see town potential in LP, and I'd really like to know what Urist and Mac are seeing there as "outed".

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Sat Jan 29, 2022 1:24 pm Town:
Alexa
Ilario
Belzy
Guillo
Sean
Nutella
Alison (think she cares about the game in a town way)
Paopan (don't know them, but surface level this just seems like town)

Jpic and Radish also seem ok.

One town and one wolf possibly?

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Sat Jan 29, 2022 1:15 pm
dyachei wrote: ↑Sat Jan 29, 2022 1:12 pm can someone tell my why linearpoint is outed?
I've been wondering about this for a while too.

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Sun Jan 30, 2022 6:44 pm
LinearPoint wrote: ↑Sun Jan 30, 2022 6:43 pm
TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Sun Jan 30, 2022 6:42 pm LP if you don’t stop RPing and start learning how to read consistently I will be advocating policying you
1) Not until neeko dies
2) Neeko is trying to read better, dyslexia is hard OK
3) Policylynching is a scum move
Policy means killing people who according to game state flip wolf most of the time and I find people who say nonsense are wolves most of the time

Is this really w/w?

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Sun Jan 30, 2022 6:42 pm LP if you don’t stop RPing and start learning how to read consistently I will be advocating policying you

Belzy wrote: ↑Sat Feb 12, 2022 5:00 pm
Creature wrote: ↑Sat Feb 12, 2022 4:58 pm
TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Sun Jan 30, 2022 12:41 pm Someone else said that he wasn’t giving town Sloonei vibes but I think they just haven’t played with town slanky Sloonei enough
TSP has been defending Sloonei slanking. Not sure what to make out of this.
I really uad a lot of times scumleans on Sloonei over such things. Is Sloonei's effort a way to be powerwolving? So long posts... trying too hard or town who really wants to solve the game?

I guess Sloonei at least is the type to not give up as wolf.

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Sun Jan 30, 2022 5:24 pm Mindmeld With creature he’s town

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Sun Jan 30, 2022 5:29 pm Mind meld with Sloonei Sloonei town

Is this two pocketing posts or trying to mix one wolf and one town in?

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Sun Jan 30, 2022 12:41 pm Someone else said that he wasn’t giving town Sloonei vibes but I think they just haven’t played with town slanky Sloonei enough

TSP has been defending Sloonei slanking. Not sure what to make out of this.

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Sun Jan 30, 2022 12:36 pm Like if we’re in between shooting LHF bo or LHF Sloonei shoot bo

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Sun Jan 30, 2022 11:27 am
Justplayingitcool wrote: ↑Sun Jan 30, 2022 10:15 am
TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Sun Jan 30, 2022 10:11 am Vote: jpic possibly wolf here
Are we thunderdoming
sure idk

Is this w/w?

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Sun Jan 30, 2022 10:11 am Vote: jpic possibly wolf here

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Sun Jan 30, 2022 1:55 am Lp voting for me is a weird sort of scum claim

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Sun Jan 30, 2022 1:06 am Actually I’m sorta sold on argument “if dya’s the mafia attempt to get a deep wolf they’re already screwed”

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Sun Jan 30, 2022 12:17 am
Seanzie wrote: ↑Sat Jan 29, 2022 10:41 pm
TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Sat Jan 29, 2022 10:37 pm Who has shots and why also
I have a shot, strongly thinking about shooting you. Any legacy you want to give before I do?
don't do that smh

wolves probably:

that w/w pair I called out earlier (don't remember either member)
nutella (idk)
mr (3p)
lp
sabie

towns probably:
alexa
whoever shot the dead wolf (was it c4)
the one who's apparently not a gav alt

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Sat Jan 29, 2022 6:55 pm Shoot LP they were annoying me tbh which is probably wolfy

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Sat Jan 29, 2022 1:08 am
Creature wrote: ↑Sat Jan 29, 2022 1:06 am
TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Sat Jan 29, 2022 1:04 am Alexa Alison dizzy mac creature and a sixth, probably like NAA or Guillo or Urist
Would try to be a bit less obvious with my wolf choices but maybe would probably have picked alexa too. Would rather have her on my wolfteam even if she gets caught easily than have her on the town team.
I think you and dizzy are maybe somewhat left field enough that I could get away with it

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Sat Jan 29, 2022 1:04 am Alexa Alison dizzy mac creature and a sixth, probably like NAA or Guillo or Urist

This is 3/5

Perhaps TSP was really mafia captain

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Sat Jan 29, 2022 1:02 am
ilario wrote: ↑Sat Jan 29, 2022 12:34 am
Sloonei wrote: ↑Sat Jan 29, 2022 12:31 am Can we just kill someone like guillotine d1 pls
Why aren’t you voting him then?
t/t

Justplayingitcool wrote: ↑Sat Feb 12, 2022 4:46 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Sat Feb 12, 2022 4:43 pm
Creature wrote: ↑Sat Feb 12, 2022 4:37 pm Could I be afraid of a dyachei + Sloonei team?
I think that reading the thread today should clearly paint me as town.
Likewise lol

I tend to expect everyone to be able to instantly read me based on my posts as well.

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sat Feb 12, 2022 4:43 pm
Creature wrote: ↑Sat Feb 12, 2022 4:37 pm Could I be afraid of a dyachei + Sloonei team?
I think that reading the thread today should clearly paint me as town.

I think you're a good wolf player though and could have easily been picked by the captain.

Could I be afraid of a dyachei + Sloonei team?

Belzy wrote: ↑Sat Feb 12, 2022 4:34 pm
Creature wrote: ↑Sat Feb 12, 2022 4:33 pm Also wouldn't surprise me if one wolf was offwagon
Please let it be LP

Only other possible name would be Sloonei

Belzy wrote: ↑Sat Feb 12, 2022 4:33 pm Someone please help me sorting Sabie

I think my main reason to townread sabie is that she showed progression on both her Ender and c4 shots, those names were both POE shots and if sabie12 is really wolf vig then she really townsided with those shots, she also claimed to not have shot anyone N3 when she could have just claimed roleblocked and on top of all she could have easily just shot a town!Paopan here instead of looking bad and then she didn't claim the shot on DrWilgy today which was like a POE shot she could have just claimed for cred. I think most of my reasons to townread sabie12 are based on her actions matching up with what I'd expect from a town vig, also coupled with dyachei seemingly townreading her from the BTSC.

Also wouldn't surprise me if one wolf was offwagon

Is DrWilgy wagon really pure?

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Sun Jan 30, 2022 7:20 pm Seanzie ( 7 ): Urist, NotAnAxehole, Paopan, Belzy, TonyStarkPrime, DrWilgy, nutella
DrWilgy ( 6 ): sabie, dyachei, ender, sean, radishes, c4
NotAnAxehole ( 4 ): Guillotine, alexa, Phil and Gloria, ilario
EnderWiggin ( 3 ): dyslexicon, jpic, falcon
112 ( 1 ): Sloonei
Dyslexicon ( 1 ): BoKnows
falcon45ca ( 1 ): 112
Porscha ( 1 ): linearpoint
sig ( 1 ): hollowkatt
Not Voting ( 3 ): Creature, sig, porscha

Doing this because I like coloring VCs

Belzy wrote: ↑Sat Feb 12, 2022 4:26 pm Starting to think Dya is scum.

Dya and LP is an option, right? Not just sabie Dya....?

I guess dyachei and LP could be an option. If that is the case, then at least we're on the right track with our current lynch.

Meh

Sloonei is claiming to have a confirmable role
I kinda buy JPIC's struggle to townfirm themselves seems to stem more from frustrated town than POEd wolf

So if LP flips town and town survives tonight I'd look at dyachei next

Urist wrote: ↑Sat Jan 29, 2022 8:06 pm Shooting anyone other than linearpoint is literally a scumclaim

Looking at Urist's ISO, he really was on LinearPoint and then died N1. Not sure if this is a frame kill or really points towards something.

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