GAME OF CHAMPIONS 2021 Endgame (town and 3p win)

[Creature]

Vote: jpic possibly wolf here

[Creature]

Vote: jpic possibly wolf here

Are we thunderdoming

sure idk

Is this w/w?

[Belzy]

alexa im not sure there's much utility in continuing to argue over this. I can't see faking red claims as a wolf role personally. so you have to decide for yourself if this role exists or not?

i've said repeatedly that i just don't believe the role exists, and especially if people are saying NAA does it anyway, why does the role exist and conveniently go to the person who does it anyway?

right so keep your vote there. but like arguing about it for the rest of the day doesnt seem like it's in our best interest and you seem to be getting upset

Is this a teammate interaction?

I can see your point where Dizzy and I had very different tones, and those two more similar.

Interesting. I was thinking it’s not a teammate interaction because it looks like a real disagreement.

They looked both relatively calm there.

[Belzy]

Vote: jpic possibly wolf here

Are we thunderdoming

sure idk

Is this w/w?

I hope so, cuz a LP+JPIC team is reassuring rn

[Creature]

Like if we’re in between shooting LHF bo or LHF Sloonei shoot bo

[Creature]

Someone else said that he wasn’t giving town Sloonei vibes but I think they just haven’t played with town slanky Sloonei enough

TSP has been defending Sloonei slanking. Not sure what to make out of this.

[Belzy]

Someone else said that he wasn’t giving town Sloonei vibes but I think they just haven’t played with town slanky Sloonei enough

TSP has been defending Sloonei slanking. Not sure what to make out of this.

I really uad a lot of times scumleans on Sloonei over such things. Is Sloonei's effort a way to be powerwolving? So long posts... trying too hard or town who really wants to solve the game?

[Belzy]

Someone else said that he wasn’t giving town Sloonei vibes but I think they just haven’t played with town slanky Sloonei enough

TSP has been defending Sloonei slanking. Not sure what to make out of this.

I really uad a lot of times scumleans on Sloonei over such things. Is Sloonei's effort a way to be powerwolving? So long posts... trying too hard or town who really wants to solve the game?

I really had*

[Creature]

Mindmeld With creature he’s town

Mind meld with Sloonei Sloonei town

Is this two pocketing posts or trying to mix one wolf and one town in?

[Creature]

Someone else said that he wasn’t giving town Sloonei vibes but I think they just haven’t played with town slanky Sloonei enough

TSP has been defending Sloonei slanking. Not sure what to make out of this.

I really uad a lot of times scumleans on Sloonei over such things. Is Sloonei's effort a way to be powerwolving? So long posts... trying too hard or town who really wants to solve the game?

I guess Sloonei at least is the type to not give up as wolf.

[Creature]

LP if you don’t stop RPing and start learning how to read consistently I will be advocating policying you

[Belzy]

Mindmeld With creature he’s town

Mind meld with Sloonei Sloonei town

Is this two pocketing posts or trying to mix one wolf and one town in?

Maybe trying to pocket Sloonei there. That actually makes more sense to me than wolf wolf there

[Creature]

LP if you don’t stop RPing and start learning how to read consistently I will be advocating policying you

1) Not until neeko dies
2) Neeko is trying to read better, dyslexia is hard OK
3) Policylynching is a scum move

Policy means killing people who according to game state flip wolf most of the time and I find people who say nonsense are wolves most of the time

Is this really w/w?

[Belzy]

LP if you don’t stop RPing and start learning how to read consistently I will be advocating policying you

1) Not until neeko dies
2) Neeko is trying to read better, dyslexia is hard OK
3) Policylynching is a scum move

Policy means killing people who according to game state flip wolf most of the time and I find people who say nonsense are wolves most of the time

Is this really w/w?

doesn't look so...

[Creature]

can someone tell my why linearpoint is outed?

I've been wondering about this for a while too.

[Belzy]

Is it just me or is Dyachei very likely scum?

[Creature]

Town:
Alexa
Ilario
Belzy
Guillo
Sean
Nutella
Alison (think she cares about the game in a town way)
Paopan (don't know them, but surface level this just seems like town)

Jpic and Radish also seem ok.

One town and one wolf possibly?

[Creature]

I see town potential in LP, and I'd really like to know what Urist and Mac are seeing there as "outed".

[Creature]

Who shot Marmot?

you're welcome

GOAT

Oh, dya. Nice job

Does this spew dya?

[Creature]

All these vigs in the world. If I had a vig shot I'd shoot Scotty or Mac. But also, don't listen to me. What I really would've done is just give the shot to Dya because Dya GOAT.

This feels pockety

[Creature]

Alright, if I'm shot by a town gg gl, no hard feelings. Gotta sleep.

Dya
Alexa
Belzy
Sean
Guillo
Alison

Nut
Ilario
Jpic
MR

^towns.

[Creature]

Sloonei doesn't mention Marmot at all in his ISO. I would maybe expect him to if he had TMI on Marmot, but that is also dependent on how much of the game state he was aware of. And seems like he's mostly out of it. In any case, I don't think Sloonei is my favourite kill/chop this day. He looks legit busy.

[Creature]

Neeko doesn't know many here so Neeko doesn't know who would be good pick. Nutella sounds tasty though, so Neeko would have picked that. Yum.

You should out nutella's role so that she gets souped if town

lol what? The fuck does that even mean?

This is the alleged slip that Urist pointed out, the accusation being that LP feigned ignorance about the soup kill. I don't really think going off of slips like this yields the best results, cause I've seen a lot of town miss stuff or assume stuff and it being seen as a slip. I think actual slips are very rare. However, LP is later claiming that they did read the OP, but that Nanook must have edited it. I don't know if this happened, but it seems a bit unlikely? Why not just say that you missed the part about the soup kill instead of "No, it changed"? Maybe this has more to do with LP's personality than anything. I could see LP trying to feign ignorance here, but I don't think that is a slam dunk thing at all.

But reading through LP's iso, I just end up with very mixed feelings. I've only played one game day with them before, but they were obvious town to me in that game. This game, I don't get the same feeling. At the same time, there's actually a lot of content and analysis to read. A lot of the analysis doesn't really make sense to me, but that was the same as last game. What I think may be different is that last game they eventually became very town leader-y and sorted people pretty aggressively and had much more impact overall. I wish I had a more firm take here, but I don't. If others have more experience with LP, please share.

Marmot still worst iso in the game but ender is close

Does Marmot not usually forgo reading?
Neeko thought that's what Marmot did and that seems to be the pattern in Marmot iso.
Pretty much identical so far to Team Fortress Mafia where Marmot was Town.

There's also this, which is the only thing LP has posted about Marmot. This being the only thing in their iso when there's a lot of content isn't great in itself.

And ther's been a lot of discussion around LP, and if they're mafia there might be a lot of anti-alignments to draw from it. I could see them being mafia here, so I'm not opposed to chopping them.

Would also like to know where LP is at with reads/sorting right now.

[Creature]

Ender, Wilgy, LP all acceptable chops on the top of my head.

Rule of three?

[Creature]

[VOTE: Porscha] aubergine

flash wagon time

Towny minmeld

[Creature]

Guess I ain't really got anything very useful from ISOs. JPIC looks worse, LinearPoint looks somewhat better, Sloonei and dyachei might have been pocketing attempts.

[Justplayingitcool]

Why do i look worse and bot a pocket attempt?

[Creature]

Midday votecount:

sig ( 13 ): alexa, Master Radishes, Paopan, falcon45ca, DrWilgy, Justplayingitcool, Belzy, sabie12, hollowkatt, TonyStarkPrime, c4e5g3d5, LinearPoint, 112
hollowkatt ( 11 ): Phil and Gloria, Master Radishes, Belzy, Paopan, Sloonei, sabie12, 112, falcon45ca, dyachei, DrWilgy, alexa
DrWilgy ( 10 ): sabie12, dyachei, c4e5g3d5, falcon45ca, Paopan, Phil and Gloria, LinearPoint, hollowkatt, Creature, alexa
Guillotine ( 10 ): ilario, Belzy, Sloonei, c4e5g3d5, falcon45ca, dyachei, TonyStarkPrime, 112, LinearPoint, Phil and Gloria
112 ( 9 ): Sabie, dya, alexa, paopan, TSP, creature, falcon, guillo, wilgy
c4e5g3d5 ( 9 ): Falcon, sabie, paopan, linearpoint, dya, sloonei, belzy, TSP, wilgy
sabie12 ( 9 ): DrWilgy, dyachei, Paopan, Sloonei, c4e5g3d5, Master Radishes, TonyStarkPrime, Phil and Gloria, 112
TonyStarkPrime ( 9 ): Master Radishes, alexa, Justplayingitcool, sabie12, DrWilgy, hollowkatt, Creature, LinearPoint, falcon45ca
Justplayingitcool ( 8 ): DrWilgy, dyachei, Sloonei, alexa, sabie12, ilario, Belzy, Paopan
Paopan ( 8 ): DrWilgy, Justplayingitcool, alexa, sabie12, hollowkatt, TonyStarkPrime, LinearPoint, Phil and Gloria
LinearPoint ( 7 ): Guillotine, Phil and Gloria, Sloonei, hollowkatt, Creature, c4e5g3d5, falcon45ca
alexa ( 3 ): Phil and Gloria, guillo, TSP
falcon45ca ( 3 ): 112, Guillotine, Belzy
Phil and Gloria ( 3 ): 112, Belzy, hollowkatt
Master Radishes ( 2 ): Belzy, hollowkatt
Sloonei ( 2 ): hollowkatt, 112

Not sure if this was looked at

[Belzy]

[VOTE: Porscha] aubergine

flash wagon time

Towny minmeld

Scum dizzy said this to a town Belzy in a previous game, too. This looks good on jpic

[Creature]

I was considering going hail mary on dyachei, but now I changed my mind.

[Creature]

40 minutes left...

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

LinearPoint (6): Belzy, falcon45ca, Creature, dyachei, Sloonei, sabie12
dyachei (1): Justplayingitcool
Sloonei (1): LinearPoint
Not Voting (1): Porscha

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

@LinearPoint has died and flips MAFIA! They reveal as:

Stirner

You are a one shot backup. The first player to die, you get their role. Even if it’s a crappy one. Them’s the breaks. Until you receive your role, you are counted as vanilla. When you receive your new role, you will receive a one shot version of it.

Night actions are due by 4pm, February 13. Day 6 will begin February 13 at 6pm Eastern.

Spoiler: show

@ Belzy
@ Creature
@ dyachei
@ falcon45ca
@ Justplayingitcool
@ Porscha
@ sabie12
@ Sloonei

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

In the night!

The following players were thrown into a pot and cooked alive:

@Belzy
@Porscha

They both flip TOWN! And reveal as:

Toxic Masons

You’re a mason! Your partner is [partner], and your mason chat is here: [discord link]

You’re also toxic! If you and your partner [redacted]. Fun!

The soup chef who performed this dastardly deed was caught in the act, and reveals to be…@dyachei

Since dya is the last remaining mafia and is now outed, the game has been called and ends in a shared TOWN and SUPER THIRD PARTY victory. Congratulations to the winners!

Please remember that COC and syndicate rules about respect apply to post game as well! Don't want to see any "alignment X didn't deserve to win!" stuff, the only alignment that didn't make a meaningful mistake was the super third party, both town and mafia had moments of strong play and moments where they botched it. It happens, that's how the game goes. Let's have a fun and good natured postgame!

Thank you so much to everyone who played. I hope everyone enjoyed themselves as much as they were able to and had a good time. I’m linking to the hosting spreadsheet and a (nearly comprehensive) role/mechanics dump list, but any questions not answered by those I’ll be happy to fill in the blanks on! There are a couple things I'll touch on in a separate post about how the game went/was designed, but I'll do that later. A big thank you to Dunia, juliets, and syn, for being excellent cohosts/mods, this would have been much harder without your help.

So long, and thanks for all the fish.


Various discords:

Spoiler: show

Hub server: https://discord.gg/JjRCSkPSbD
Mafia chat: https://discord.gg/Rn5ZSVjdym
Super Third Party chat: https://discord.gg/FJaKfJt233
Toxic Mason chat: https://discord.gg/YeZR6BA8YS
Rock Paper Scissors Battle Royale (d1 event): https://discord.gg/mmqJg9KE5Y
Poetry Lovers Neighborhood (d2 event prize): https://discord.gg/kzqzmQRKRz
Walrus Collective Vig Neighborhood (d3 event prize): https://discord.gg/c5N3vqXRWP

Hosting spreadsheet
Role/mechanic dump
Poetry Scores
Walrus Scores

Spoiler: show

@ 112
@ alexa
@ Alison
@ Belzy
@ BoKnows
@ c4e5g3d5
@ Creature
@ DrWilgy
@ dyachei
@ Dyslexicon
@ EnderWiggin
@ falcon45ca
@ Guillotine
@ hollowkatt
@ ilario
@ Justplayingitcool
@ KZA
@ LinearPoint
@ Macdougall
@ Marmot
@ Master Radishes
@ NotAnAxehole
@ nutella
@ Paopan
@ Porscha
@ sabie12
@ Scotty
@ Seanzie
@ sig
@ Sloonei
@sprityo
@ TonyStarkPrime
@ Urist

[TonyStarkPrime]

Please remember that COC and syndicate rules about respect apply to post game as well! Don't want to see any "alignment X didn't deserve to win!" stuff, the only alignment that didn't make a meaningful mistake was the super third party, both town and mafia had moments of strong play and moments where they botched it. It happens, that's how the game goes. Let's have a fun and good natured postgame!

alignment wolf didn't deserve to win

[TonyStarkPrime]

gg etc

[c4e5g3d5]

Spoiler: show

@sabie12
@TonyStarkPrime

[Hally]

ggs

[Alison]

Mafia got really unlucky, that sucks. ggs though

[TonyStarkPrime]

Spoiler: show

@sabie12
@TonyStarkPrime

he square

[juliets]

Great game everyone, all factions worked so hard in this game. Congrats to Town and Super 3P but you Wolves were also awesome!!

[Belzy]

Yesss!!!!!!!!


F yeahhhhh


Good game all, thanks for hosting and having me

Love

[Creature]

Jesus I just came into townreading dyachei last night

I am an embarrassment.

[Guillotine]

Scum team


Phil and Gloria
Dyachei
TonyStarkPrime
Marmot
Dyslexicon
Sloonei
112

It makes sense

Yo! What did I tell you?

And wait to read my poem where like a fool outed my suspicion on Linear and Alexa instead of in the thread. lol

Good game guys!

And yo! Hk and Ilario are GOATs. Best 3P performance! You can count on this nomination.

Side note: Loverization is not a prize, it's a trap lol

[sabie12]

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@sabie12
@TonyStarkPrime

Sorry about that I was torn between you and tsp and instantly regretted my choice. I was like ugh should've went with tsp!

[Syn]

Thanks for playing, everyone! Job well done!

While I have your attention, there are several games currently open for sign-ups here on the Syndicate. If you've got a hankering for more mafia, maybe check them out!

RPG Mafia: https://mafiathesyndicate.com/viewtopic.php?t=2280
Highway Mafia: https://mafiathesyndicate.com/viewtopic.php?t=2302
The Rings of Power: https://mafiathesyndicate.com/viewtopic.php?t=2300
A Cool Game about Cool Rocks: https://mafiathesyndicate.com/viewtopic.php?t=2276

[Belzy]

Jesus I just came into townreading dyachei last night

I am an embarrassment.

Lol, my lasts posts were well in honour regarding Dya lol

Gg Creature, you were great. Especially in the end that's been very crucial

[c4e5g3d5]

Spoiler: show

@sabie12
@TonyStarkPrime

Sorry about that I was torn between you and tsp and instantly regretted my choice. I was like ugh should've went with tsp!

Lol it's all good

I mean uh, how dare you shoot town, I would never

[sabie12]

I was pretty sure dya was mafia but because we were lowered I couldn't say anything.

[sabie12]

Lover*