The Syndicate

Wow
Scotty Goat!

Awesome game everyone! Guillo thanks for hosting!

My flip was so fake that i only sheeped the townies on the spirit judge vote tbh

@Guillotine please post my real role for @hollowkatt to read it.

Dolby wrote: ↑Wed Jul 14, 2021 10:45 amNanook null

He is almost inexistent

Dolby wrote: ↑Wed Jul 14, 2021 10:37 am Also Michelle, your Ender read is like a rollercoaster lol

Sinusoidal reads are ok-ish

Garden Gnome wrote: ↑Wed Jul 14, 2021 10:35 am Where are lost monkey and TonyStarkPrime?

That's a very good question

Creature wrote: ↑Wed Jul 14, 2021 10:21 am I swear I'm too uninformed to be a wolf here.

don't swear

Alison wrote: ↑Wed Jul 14, 2021 10:22 am

Creature wrote: ↑Wed Jul 14, 2021 10:16 am

Alison wrote: ↑Wed Jul 14, 2021 10:10 am Please no vanity wagons, vote one of HK/Ender/mansnicks, preferably Ender. Voting a vanity wagon is the same as not voting and makes it easy for mafia to dodge accountability.

Wasn't someone saying wolves were likely fine with the current wagons?

I don't know why they think that but I guarantee that a CFD is even worse. CFDs are almost always anti town, they are probably the worst trend to pop up in recent years and I wil repeat this until people stop trying to undo the work of 48 hours in 15 minutes.

I saw so many successful CFDs that in first days I want to have at least one

reading Mansnicks Iso, it's rather empty and I want to keep his wagon up.
My TR on him existed rather because of the vibe and impression of him being contributive, but he was asking left and right things without following them up afterwards

Something on last Ender posts makes me to want him alive at this Eod

[VOTE: Mansnicks] aubergine

Flea the Magician wrote: ↑Wed Jul 14, 2021 10:16 am

Michelle wrote: ↑Wed Jul 14, 2021 9:55 am

Flea the Magician wrote: ↑Wed Jul 14, 2021 9:48 am

Michelle wrote: ↑Wed Jul 14, 2021 8:55 am

Flea the Magician wrote: ↑Wed Jul 14, 2021 8:04 am

Michelle wrote: ↑Wed Jul 14, 2021 7:35 am 6. @Flea the Magician ISO - 18 p, feels like a lazy town, but i can't put him above null rn, i would like him to post more, and to give some inputs

they/them pronouns Thank you <3

Sumimasen, i will try to keep it in mind. Playing on phone I can't see the pronouns part

Other than this, do you have any opinion about what i posted?

Honestly, I'm not a big fan of your list personally. Your method seems to be that you're a townhunter/poe type of player, which is always going have people looking at you suspiciously - and your list doesn't seem to fully have that conviction I'd expect from a townhunter.

your strongest read doesn't seem to be that strong, which is the biggest concern. (75% is not a strong read for a town hunter.)

75% is huge in day 1

Not for the style of play you seem to have. Generally I'd expect a townhunter to have a locktown or near locktown read by now. I've got 2. ^.^

yea, i have TH, Osie and HK closest to lock town

You seem to theorize my playstyle what about other people's playstyle? Tell me something about someone else. Like for eg HKs

Creature wrote: ↑Wed Jul 14, 2021 10:14 am Just started reading Jules Verne and so far looks great. Let's hope it goes better than the movie.

nice, what book do you read?

Creature wrote: ↑Wed Jul 14, 2021 10:12 am I'm pessimistic about this game

why?

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Wed Jul 14, 2021 10:07 am

Michelle wrote: ↑Wed Jul 14, 2021 10:00 am

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Wed Jul 14, 2021 9:57 am

Michelle wrote: ↑Wed Jul 14, 2021 9:55 am

Flea the Magician wrote: ↑Wed Jul 14, 2021 9:48 am

Michelle wrote: ↑Wed Jul 14, 2021 8:55 am

Flea the Magician wrote: ↑Wed Jul 14, 2021 8:04 am

they/them pronouns Thank you <3

Sumimasen, i will try to keep it in mind. Playing on phone I can't see the pronouns part

Other than this, do you have any opinion about what i posted?

Honestly, I'm not a big fan of your list personally. Your method seems to be that you're a townhunter/poe type of player, which is always going have people looking at you suspiciously - and your list doesn't seem to fully have that conviction I'd expect from a townhunter.

your strongest read doesn't seem to be that strong, which is the biggest concern. (75% is not a strong read for a town hunter.)

75% is huge in day 1

75% is very close to (often below) rand in most games lol

It's about my read accuracy, not the general probability of a slot to be scum

Have you read anything from the thread?

A 75% accurate read is the same as not having a read lol

And some here and there, not much tbh

maybe our math is different, for me the null is at 50%

any take from what you read will be nice

you really want me to read Mansnicks Iso
Okay, I have some time

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Wed Jul 14, 2021 9:57 am

Michelle wrote: ↑Wed Jul 14, 2021 9:55 am

Flea the Magician wrote: ↑Wed Jul 14, 2021 9:48 am

Michelle wrote: ↑Wed Jul 14, 2021 8:55 am

Flea the Magician wrote: ↑Wed Jul 14, 2021 8:04 am

Michelle wrote: ↑Wed Jul 14, 2021 7:35 am 6. @Flea the Magician ISO - 18 p, feels like a lazy town, but i can't put him above null rn, i would like him to post more, and to give some inputs

they/them pronouns Thank you <3

Sumimasen, i will try to keep it in mind. Playing on phone I can't see the pronouns part

Other than this, do you have any opinion about what i posted?

Honestly, I'm not a big fan of your list personally. Your method seems to be that you're a townhunter/poe type of player, which is always going have people looking at you suspiciously - and your list doesn't seem to fully have that conviction I'd expect from a townhunter.

your strongest read doesn't seem to be that strong, which is the biggest concern. (75% is not a strong read for a town hunter.)

75% is huge in day 1

75% is very close to (often below) rand in most games lol

It's about my read accuracy, not the general probability of a slot to be scum

Have you read anything from the thread?

Alison wrote: ↑Wed Jul 14, 2021 9:57 am I think voting HK over Ender makes zero sense.

I agree with this

Garden Gnome wrote: ↑Wed Jul 14, 2021 9:36 am

Michelle wrote: ↑Wed Jul 14, 2021 9:30 am

hollowkatt wrote: ↑Wed Jul 14, 2021 9:21 am

Michelle wrote: ↑Wed Jul 14, 2021 9:16 am

hollowkatt wrote: ↑Wed Jul 14, 2021 9:12 am

Michelle wrote: ↑Wed Jul 14, 2021 9:04 am ok, Osie is town like 95%

I have indeed Lost Monley as scum, let's see where this goes

[VOTE: Lost Monkey] aubergine

?? how do you get there

an lhf who doesn't receive attention can be scum, right?

sure, but what's the point of starting a vanity wagon with an hour or so left to go?
especially if you're not making a case, just throwing a "lets see what happens" vote

The concept of CFD resides in a wagon formed in the last moments of a day
If not now, when should i start a cv?

What do you want me to do?

What do you want to do?
You're voting lost monkey?
Do you want a CFD/CV on lost monkey?
What do you think of mansnicks and listo95? Right now, they are looking the scummiest to me.

I have no demands for you Gnomey, you should play without concern about such thing
Yes
Yes
Mansnicks v, listo prob scum
50% agree with you

hollowkatt wrote: ↑Wed Jul 14, 2021 9:54 am

Michelle wrote: ↑Wed Jul 14, 2021 9:54 am

hollowkatt wrote: ↑Wed Jul 14, 2021 9:36 am it's plays like this Michelle that make me want to wolf read you

Be my guest

Spoiler: show

Voltron construction cancelled smh

ok
Michelle is a wolf

Ily too

Flea the Magician wrote: ↑Wed Jul 14, 2021 9:48 am

Michelle wrote: ↑Wed Jul 14, 2021 8:55 am

Flea the Magician wrote: ↑Wed Jul 14, 2021 8:04 am

Michelle wrote: ↑Wed Jul 14, 2021 7:35 am 6. @Flea the Magician ISO - 18 p, feels like a lazy town, but i can't put him above null rn, i would like him to post more, and to give some inputs

they/them pronouns Thank you <3

Sumimasen, i will try to keep it in mind. Playing on phone I can't see the pronouns part

Other than this, do you have any opinion about what i posted?

Honestly, I'm not a big fan of your list personally. Your method seems to be that you're a townhunter/poe type of player, which is always going have people looking at you suspiciously - and your list doesn't seem to fully have that conviction I'd expect from a townhunter.

your strongest read doesn't seem to be that strong, which is the biggest concern. (75% is not a strong read for a town hunter.)

75% is huge in day 1

hollowkatt wrote: ↑Wed Jul 14, 2021 9:36 am it's plays like this Michelle that make me want to wolf read you

Be my guest

hollowkatt wrote: ↑Wed Jul 14, 2021 9:32 am

Michelle wrote: ↑Wed Jul 14, 2021 9:30 am

hollowkatt wrote: ↑Wed Jul 14, 2021 9:21 am

Michelle wrote: ↑Wed Jul 14, 2021 9:16 am

hollowkatt wrote: ↑Wed Jul 14, 2021 9:12 am

Michelle wrote: ↑Wed Jul 14, 2021 9:04 am ok, Osie is town like 95%

I have indeed Lost Monley as scum, let's see where this goes

[VOTE: Lost Monkey] aubergine

?? how do you get there

an lhf who doesn't receive attention can be scum, right?

sure, but what's the point of starting a vanity wagon with an hour or so left to go?
especially if you're not making a case, just throwing a "lets see what happens" vote

The concept of CFD resides in a wagon formed in the last moments of a day
If not now, when should i start a cv?

What do you want me to do?

why do you want to start a cv/cfd?
maybe talking about why you want to chop lost monkey would be a good idea. Seems like you're just throwing things at the wall and see what sticks

You are a wagon and you want a single chop, refusing to self press and questioning the idea of a CFD.
You're odd today, my friend...

Yes, i want to see what sticks. Got any problem with my method?

hollowkatt wrote: ↑Wed Jul 14, 2021 9:21 am

Michelle wrote: ↑Wed Jul 14, 2021 9:16 am

hollowkatt wrote: ↑Wed Jul 14, 2021 9:12 am

Michelle wrote: ↑Wed Jul 14, 2021 9:04 am ok, Osie is town like 95%

I have indeed Lost Monley as scum, let's see where this goes

[VOTE: Lost Monkey] aubergine

?? how do you get there

an lhf who doesn't receive attention can be scum, right?

sure, but what's the point of starting a vanity wagon with an hour or so left to go?
especially if you're not making a case, just throwing a "lets see what happens" vote

The concept of CFD resides in a wagon formed in the last moments of a day
If not now, when should i start a cv?

What do you want me to do?

I have to admit, though, for me is 4:20 PM while at NY is 9:20 am

Wake up America!!! Come play folks!

EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Wed Jul 14, 2021 7:31 am

Michelle wrote: ↑Wed Jul 14, 2021 5:47 am

Guillotine wrote: ↑Wed Jul 14, 2021 2:22 am

About day 1 wagons, the silence around them is concerning, if Scotty is wolf his mates are sleeping without much care.
I would say we can't hit a wolf (probably) by voting the top wagons, but being very early in the morning in US this is a weaker take than usual.

I can bet its at least one wolf in the no voters

Alison are you reading the game right? Michelle literally says she thinks we don't hit wolf in Scotty/HK/Me?

She sussed me earlier then we talked.

I mean I disagree with her there but anyway.

Who do you think can flip scum in the main wagons?

How come in a game with 21 players Eod is soooo quiet?

@TonyStarkPrime give me your top 3 scum and top 3 town sir, I need them asap

hollowkatt wrote: ↑Wed Jul 14, 2021 9:12 am

Michelle wrote: ↑Wed Jul 14, 2021 9:04 am ok, Osie is town like 95%

I have indeed Lost Monley as scum, let's see where this goes

[VOTE: Lost Monkey] aubergine

?? how do you get there

an lhf who doesn't receive attention can be scum, right?

I am well aware that Alison put me in the town pile with ease, and because I am strangely pocketed by her for the first time since we started to play together, I will consider this a sign and refuse paranoia until later in the game if i am alive and she is still around.
That was about someone who signaled that Alison's read for me is concerning or something like this.

14. @Garden Gnome ISO - 26 posts, can go either way, she has fun, she posts opinions, upper part of the null
15. @honey ISO - 87 p, towny
16. @Creature ISO - 24 p, scum vibes, maybe town but.. nah, he looks like scum
17. @Seanzie ISO - 36 p, i would swear Seanzie posted more. Townie vibes iirc
18. @listo95 ISO - 14 p, looks like low poster scum, but i was toasted before by this reasoning
19. @mansnicks ISO - 32 p, stirred the pot early and dipped. May be RL, may be something else. Keeping an eye on him
20. @TonyStarkPrime ISO - 23 p, i really don't know
21. @osieorb18 ISO - 42 p, he's town imo

I probably have too many TRs

ok, Osie is town like 95%

I have indeed Lost Monley as scum, let's see where this goes

[VOTE: Lost Monkey] aubergine

Flea the Magician wrote: ↑Wed Jul 14, 2021 8:04 am

Michelle wrote: ↑Wed Jul 14, 2021 7:35 am 6. @Flea the Magician ISO - 18 p, feels like a lazy town, but i can't put him above null rn, i would like him to post more, and to give some inputs

they/them pronouns Thank you <3

Sumimasen, i will try to keep it in mind. Playing on phone I can't see the pronouns part

Other than this, do you have any opinion about what i posted?

Alison wrote: ↑Wed Jul 14, 2021 7:59 am

Michelle wrote: ↑Wed Jul 14, 2021 7:58 am kind reminder, Triple haven plays in town meta

What is their town meta?

low effort, giving and defending town reads, a certain idc-ish attitude, and unfortunately because this game prohibits claims we can't have the best of TH, her penchant for FPS

Scotty wrote: ↑Wed Jul 14, 2021 7:22 am

mansnicks wrote: ↑Wed Jul 14, 2021 6:14 am listo has had 2 posts where he hasn't talked exclusively about himself - and both those posts have been suspicious to some people.
The way I see it, 100% of that slot's content is scum indicative? Because the other 83% of his posts were justifying himself.

Don't get me wrong, he might as well be overwhelmed town. But objectively that slot is just wolfy.

I know that all players are biased in the sense that lynching a slot like that feels lazy and like not playing the game.
But I hope people will consider this lynch.
[VOTE: Listo95] aubergine

Finally, something I can get behind.

[VOTE: Listo95] aubergine

what about this read Scotty? What makes Ender's wagon better? The fact the wagon became bigger?

kind reminder, Triple haven plays in town meta

EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Wed Jul 14, 2021 7:32 am

Scotty wrote: ↑Wed Jul 14, 2021 7:31 am ok back to ender I go then

[VOTE: Ender] aubergine

People really letting Scotty get away with this?

self pressing is nai

Took the idea from Mac and copy pasted the OP list
Probably the postnumber is wrong because while writing this, people posted more

1. @lost monkey ISO - 17 posts, TRs on Mansnicks and Honey, fos on Ender and Osie, low content, wolf material imo
2. @MacDougall ISO - 86 posts, gives free reads, in the thread's flow, always reconsidering. Town like 75%
3. @falcon45ca ISO — 58 posts, i feel him weaker than in other games, it's like half of himself from the town games i remember. Lowest part of the null
4. @hollowkatt ISO -77 p, can go either way, leaning town though because of a tone who remembers me of his strong town games
5. @Lime Coke ISO - 59 p, he has an attitude who doesn't benefit scum, so I think he may be villager
6. @Flea the Magician ISO - 18 p, feels like a lazy town, but i can't put him above null rn, i would like him to post more, and to give some inputs
7. @ NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME ISO - 10 p, null and so away from his meta, idk what to say
8. @Alison ISO - 69 p, analising everyone, looks like town Alison
9. @Michelle ISO - 49 posts, still trying to catch up some parts of the thread
10. @EnderWiggin ISO - 92 p, trending up, but had a very wolfy start imo
11. @TripleHaven ISO - 20 p, town meta
12. @Dolby ISO - 27 p, dunno, his vote on Scotty without reading Iso looks bad, probably scum indicative?
13. @Scotty ISO - 60 p, his wagon makes me think he js just villager, leaning him town by logic. I am a scummy townie myself so

Going to continue later, i have some work to do
14. @Garden Gnome ISO
15. @honey ISO
16. @Creature ISO
17. @Seanzie ISO
18. @listo95 ISO
19. @mansnicks ISO
20. @TonyStarkPrime ISO
21. @osieorb18 ISO

Alison wrote: ↑Wed Jul 14, 2021 6:56 am

Michelle wrote: ↑Tue Jul 13, 2021 12:22 pm Joking about rechecks in day 1? Smh

I know all about you and your redcheck jokes :P

touché

Tell me more about your Honey SR please

MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Jul 14, 2021 5:59 am

Michelle wrote: ↑Wed Jul 14, 2021 5:56 am Isn't Eod in 2 hours?

Four hours and forty minutes.

Thanks

Looks like i have time for working a little and i'll be back in 2 hours or so

Isn't Eod in 2 hours?

Guillotine wrote: ↑Wed Jul 14, 2021 2:22 am

About day 1 wagons, the silence around them is concerning, if Scotty is wolf his mates are sleeping without much care.
I would say we can't hit a wolf (probably) by voting the top wagons, but being very early in the morning in US this is a weaker take than usual.

I can bet its at least one wolf in the no voters

mansnicks wrote: ↑Wed Jul 14, 2021 5:30 am

honey wrote: ↑Mon Jul 12, 2021 5:54 pm

hollowkatt wrote: ↑Mon Jul 12, 2021 5:53 pm

honey wrote: ↑Mon Jul 12, 2021 5:06 pm i think that hollowkatt's uhh shade at my slot was the worst and i also dont get their confidence on listing like 4 people they would be fine with killing today (and me being one of them when i know they're wrong is not ok to me) so that's why i voted them for now

Hi, we haven't met yet I don't think.
A few things to help you understand me:
1. N0 is never a thing, stop doing it it's bad and dumb
2. Townies shouldn't lie to other townies, don't do that either it's bad.
3. FPS is bad, stop doing it.
4. Self-voting is bad, don't do it.
5. I like killing people and strongly prefer hard reads over weasel reads. I might be wrong but dammit I'm gonna be wrong with conviction

*SCREAM* yeah n0 not being a thing made it obvious that i was joking!!!!!!!

I agree, making out a joke opener in (in RVS nontheless) to be a big deal bad thing only stirs unnecessary confusion into town because it's not like it has any credibility to begin with. Objectively that's open-wolfing territory.

I still kinda go with my previous read on HK; in that he's all cognitive dissonance and only sees reads that affirm his world view. Because, in my opinion, a wolf would make more sense unless purposefully openwolfing.

Literally both explanations fit his play perfectly.
If someone could say which of these fits HK's meta more, that'd be great:
-openwolfing as wolf.
-easily susceptible to tunnel and confirmation bias as town whilst unable to take a joke.

Occams Razor says the former is more likely to be true, but such heavy openwolfers are a rare breed imho.
What does his meta say?

Meta says that both are valid regarding HK

EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Wed Jul 14, 2021 4:52 am

Michelle wrote: ↑Wed Jul 14, 2021 1:57 am You know Creature is town?

No? I've literally been campaigning against voting the low-posters as a whole?

Voting in low posters even if we hit a wolf is not as valuable if we keep votes within active users.

As for the scum read, you seem to make assumptions about things and dismiss other people's opinions (like my Creature approach) which pings really off to me.

Coloured text: I like this approach, about game theory/generalities you posted similar thoughts with mine.

About my assumptions, I usually don't sheep other reads in games, especially from people i don't know, and i post things to receive answers. This is how I form reads
Your Creature approach is correct for day 1 and if you notice, i didn't vote him because i don't want him dead today. Anyway, if he is villager, a townie who doesn't post is a very bad presence for the game because if he can make it to lylo is the designated ML by the wolves.

Still, i don't enjoy policy eliminations so I hope Creature will find his Wim, maybe somewhere in the glorious wolf win he had in Jaleb's 3/21 at MU.

I gave to Honey my other NK immunity vote and i go to work.
i will be here for Eod, if RL is merciful enough

EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Tue Jul 13, 2021 10:42 pm

Scotty wrote: ↑Tue Jul 13, 2021 10:14 pm
I’ve never been a viable wagon, you just created that narrative.

And…does it matter? It was in my thinking box up yonder.
Do you disagree with my assessment?

You're now tied first. I made shit all up with regards to you being a viable counterwagon. The fact that you're acting like those three votes on you mean nothing is exactly why I'm really wondering.

And I hate "Kill the low posters" as an assessment.

Many low posters (Creature notably) resolve themselves when given time.

Other low posters can be good targets for anyone on town with a kill or investigative power.

Town wins by creating and utilizing information in thread. By going after the low posters you're providing scum with an easy vote that has low impact, and not only that, they can easily push towards town in the low posters with little accountability and no way for anyone to call them on picking that person. It's bad or worse, take your pick.

I like this reasoning

EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Wed Jul 14, 2021 12:23 am

Dolby wrote: ↑Wed Jul 14, 2021 12:17 am Ender give me a quick leans list pls. I haven’t caught up yet and want to vibe

Towny:
Lime Coke
Honey
Garden Gnome

Lightly towny:
HK
Dolby
osieorb
Flea
Seanzie

Deep Wolves: (Kinda towny but they have good earlygames as wolves)
Alison
Mac

IDK pile:
Creature
Nanook
LoMo
TripleHaven
TSP

Lightly scummy:
Michelle
listo95

Scummier:
Falcon
Mansnicks
Scotty
EnderWiggin

You put yourself as bottom scum..

honey wrote: ↑Wed Jul 14, 2021 1:10 am So i just realized eod is at 8am my time and I probably wont be awake and I’m also getting ready for bed now but I’ll try to hit postcap in the next 5 mins

I do it for the fans

Wake up at 7 am and play the Eod

honey wrote: ↑Wed Jul 14, 2021 1:28 am I think osie is town michelle might be town, i did like mac try harding and being all fazed by me a couple pages ago limecoke will self solve i think trust this if i get k*lled
th is falling off radar but still not scummy vibes yet?

I cant see how many posts i have on mobile and i dont wanna go over so gl & gn pals

You have 87 posts, go to first page, go to your Iso and in top you have the post number

EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Tue Jul 13, 2021 6:45 pm

Seanzie wrote: ↑Tue Jul 13, 2021 2:15 pm Kinda don't like Michelle, ngl.

Kinda agree ngl

Explain
Otoh i have you as wolf read, so it's a logical thing you'd do as either AI

EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Tue Jul 13, 2021 6:50 pm

Michelle wrote: ↑Tue Jul 13, 2021 3:29 pm

Seanzie wrote: ↑Tue Jul 13, 2021 3:15 pm
Yes, I am not sure about my read. Should I be? If it isn't clear, it was a scumlean on you.

It isn't a waste of a post for me to express how I feel about a slot in the game. Do you expect no one to voice scumreads?

Why are you quoting a ton of posts but not actually doing anything with them/talking about them?

I expect reads, not shades. Your post pinged me hard because we have no history and we didn't interact at all, and the wording was wishy-washy
For eg my suspicion on Creature is based on meta of multiple games and his lack of content in this game.

I just want to keep those posts in my Iso for later in the game, if i am alive i iso myself to see what i found interesting in day 1- this is a day to obtain infos.

Can you post some reads? a list would be enough.

Creature has lack of content in every game on here I've played with him.

Creature can post genuine and complain for lack of motivation as wolf. Equalising his wolf meta with his town meta on site is easy
I have more than 3 games experience as both alignaments, so your meta is incomplete

EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Tue Jul 13, 2021 6:59 pm

Lime Coke wrote: ↑Tue Jul 13, 2021 5:34 pm Well what I've gotten so far-

Townreading:
Honey
TH
Scott
Alison

Scumreading
Creature
Mansnicks

[VOTE: Creature] aubergine

Switching to voting Creature for now because I'm more confident that he's(?) a more likely hit than Mansnicks.

Creature slanking and doing shit all is NAI for him. Please stop wasting early ml on Creature, he resolves later just fine and we can actually catch people D1 instead of lynching a slanker who resolves later.

You know Creature is town?

hollowkatt wrote: ↑Tue Jul 13, 2021 9:07 pm seanzie, why would I bother pocketing you?
You don't have thread presence, you aren't widely town read, and you're not making pushes that anyone jibes with.

If I'm wolfing here the best strategy is just ignore you.

Why are you telling us your startegy if you're wolf?

Scotty wrote: ↑Tue Jul 13, 2021 9:55 pm

EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Tue Jul 13, 2021 9:49 pm Since no one is pressuring Falcon with me:
[VOTE: Scotty] aubergine

Because weird push on me and honestly best counterwagon.

HK's irritability feels v to me.

Nice no u
“Best counterwagon”

That counterwagon’s a lemon and won’t drive you up the hill my man.

I find this reaction wolfy

honey wrote: ↑Tue Jul 13, 2021 5:32 pm

Michelle wrote: ↑Tue Jul 13, 2021 5:29 pm Can we not focus so much on meta from other games and play instead this game?

on d2 sure

weren't you the one who asked me for links to my past games..?

One is diving in meta to check something and other is to clog the thread with other games stories.

Scotty wrote: ↑Tue Jul 13, 2021 5:37 pm

Michelle wrote: ↑Tue Jul 13, 2021 5:29 pm Can we not focus so much on meta from other games and play instead this game?

Counterpoint: meta from other games reflect onto this game, especially in a D1 where all we have to go on are vibes and metas

Making meta the main subject only helps wolves to blend in

Can we not focus so much on meta from other games and play instead this game?

hollowkatt wrote: ↑Tue Jul 13, 2021 4:58 pm
So part of the reason I'm considering whether or not you're a wolf is your insistence on having peoples reads explained to you, especially when they've been consistently not explaining them.
Like sure, I could probably go find specific posts to town read ender off of, but I'm not gonna.
Instead I'm going to say enders posts are fun to read and I like his approach to the game.

I don't remember to insist for explanation of reads, i asked why do you TR Ender because you asked why i SR him.
By comparing our both motives, none is solid, i have a gut read and you have an enjoyable player you like, which is not really AI

If you suspect me, why don't you ask me anything?

I can't sleep so i collected few more posts while reading

hollowkatt wrote: ↑Tue Jul 13, 2021 4:30 pm

Guillotine wrote: ↑Tue Jul 13, 2021 4:15 pm

@Michelle @Creature @Scotty why are you voting Ender?
Sell me on what he's done that's wolfy because I've got him as a town read

I remember i disliked all his posts until the moment i voted
It was a gut take and it felt right to start a wagon there
After my vote Creature voted Ender as well.
If Creature is wolf like i suspect, he is bussing.

Can you explain your read?
Also why do you think if me and Seanzie may have a wolf, it's me? Don't you know how to read me?

Seanzie wrote: ↑Tue Jul 13, 2021 3:54 pm

Michelle wrote: ↑Tue Jul 13, 2021 3:50 pm

Alison wrote: ↑Tue Jul 13, 2021 6:37 am

Seanzie wrote: ↑Mon Jul 12, 2021 4:19 pm Falcon and Lime Coke are partners.

Creature should either stop signing up for games with a soup kill or stop complaining about the soup kill.

I think Creature bellyaching about how overpowered the soup kill is, is probably >rand villa for him. Very rarely see scum bitch about how scumsided the setup is.

I don't trust the general wolves habits, is town Creature always so low effort in your experience?

Seanzie wrote: ↑Tue Jul 13, 2021 3:32 pm

Michelle wrote: ↑Tue Jul 13, 2021 3:29 pm

Seanzie wrote: ↑Tue Jul 13, 2021 3:15 pm
Yes, I am not sure about my read. Should I be? If it isn't clear, it was a scumlean on you.

It isn't a waste of a post for me to express how I feel about a slot in the game. Do you expect no one to voice scumreads?

Why are you quoting a ton of posts but not actually doing anything with them/talking about them?

I expect reads, not shades. Your post pinged me hard because we have no history and we didn't interact at all, and the wording was wishy-washy
For eg my suspicion on Creature is based on meta of multiple games and his lack of content in this game.

I just want to keep those posts in my Iso for later in the game, if i am alive i iso myself to see what i found interesting in day 1- this is a day to obtain infos.

Can you post some reads? a list would be enough.

So instead of asking WHY I don't like you, you say "kinda?"?

No.

That's because i don't really care about your reason as long as you put a 'scumlean' between kinda and ngl

My question was implied, when i asked 'kinda?' i was asking for an explanation for why are you unsure. Because ngl says you should have something to say. In my opinion the 2, the word kinda and the expression ngl have opposed meaning when it's about a read. You put ngl when you're sure.
But this is maybe a me thing, and if i am wrong, my bad

You didn't answer at my question, post your reads please

Ah, so instead of trying to solve me, you're going to accuse me of throwing shade while throwing shade yourself based on things like "kinda" and "ngl"? Cool. Let me update my read:

Really don't like Michelle, ngl.

I did answer your question, with a single word: "no".

What tells you i don't try to solve you? I explained you my one word question and i see you don't understand my intent.. Are we talking past each other?

Post your reads and stop being stubborn

The poll now shows a majority of players voting for Alison
She has enough votes, so i voted for Mac
I will think at the second vote later

I have to sleep, is 11 pm for me, see you in the morning

Alison wrote: ↑Tue Jul 13, 2021 6:37 am

Seanzie wrote: ↑Mon Jul 12, 2021 4:19 pm Falcon and Lime Coke are partners.

Creature should either stop signing up for games with a soup kill or stop complaining about the soup kill.

I think Creature bellyaching about how overpowered the soup kill is, is probably >rand villa for him. Very rarely see scum bitch about how scumsided the setup is.

I don't trust the general wolves habits, is town Creature always so low effort in your experience?

Seanzie wrote: ↑Tue Jul 13, 2021 3:32 pm

Michelle wrote: ↑Tue Jul 13, 2021 3:29 pm

Seanzie wrote: ↑Tue Jul 13, 2021 3:15 pm
Yes, I am not sure about my read. Should I be? If it isn't clear, it was a scumlean on you.

It isn't a waste of a post for me to express how I feel about a slot in the game. Do you expect no one to voice scumreads?

Why are you quoting a ton of posts but not actually doing anything with them/talking about them?

I expect reads, not shades. Your post pinged me hard because we have no history and we didn't interact at all, and the wording was wishy-washy
For eg my suspicion on Creature is based on meta of multiple games and his lack of content in this game.

I just want to keep those posts in my Iso for later in the game, if i am alive i iso myself to see what i found interesting in day 1- this is a day to obtain infos.

Can you post some reads? a list would be enough.

So instead of asking WHY I don't like you, you say "kinda?"?

No.

That's because i don't really care about your reason as long as you put a 'scumlean' between kinda and ngl

My question was implied, when i asked 'kinda?' i was asking for an explanation for why are you unsure. Because ngl says you should have something to say. In my opinion the 2, the word kinda and the expression ngl have opposed meaning when it's about a read. You put ngl when you're sure.
But this is maybe a me thing, and if i am wrong, my bad

You didn't answer at my question, post your reads please

Seanzie wrote: ↑Tue Jul 13, 2021 3:15 pm
Yes, I am not sure about my read. Should I be? If it isn't clear, it was a scumlean on you.

It isn't a waste of a post for me to express how I feel about a slot in the game. Do you expect no one to voice scumreads?

Why are you quoting a ton of posts but not actually doing anything with them/talking about them?

I expect reads, not shades. Your post pinged me hard because we have no history and we didn't interact at all, and the wording was wishy-washy
For eg my suspicion on Creature is based on meta of multiple games and his lack of content in this game.

I just want to keep those posts in my Iso for later in the game, if i am alive i iso myself to see what i found interesting in day 1- this is a day to obtain infos.

Can you post some reads? a list would be enough.

Garden Gnome wrote: ↑Tue Jul 13, 2021 3:07 pm

Michelle wrote: ↑Tue Jul 13, 2021 1:41 pm I see HK has as TR my top SR

Garden Gnome wrote: ↑Tue Jul 13, 2021 1:38 pm

hollowkatt wrote: ↑Tue Jul 13, 2021 12:13 pm

Garden Gnome wrote: ↑Tue Jul 13, 2021 12:09 pm

hollowkatt wrote: ↑Tue Jul 13, 2021 12:04 pm

Garden Gnome wrote: ↑Tue Jul 13, 2021 11:59 am

the sun (a minor miracle) and this game! Let's catch some wicked scums!!! Who are you currently reading as scum?

mansnicks, honey, lime are the ones that are sticking out to me as scum. Mostly not caring though b/c finding town is better

All right, thank you!
Who are your strongest town reads right now?

me
mac
alison
dolby
ender

all right! Thank you!

Gnomey what reads do you have?

These are the people who come across as town to me, based on their tone. I like how they communicate and how they are pushing to solve. : Alison, Dolby, lime coke, triplehaven, and honey.

I usually struggle with scum reads on D1, and this game is no exception.

What are you thinking right now?

In short i have

Mansnicks
Mac
HK
For top TRs

Creature
Ender
For top SRs

And you're probably town ig ^^

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Tue Jul 13, 2021 2:51 pm Ok I'm here for a little bit, someone tell me who to sheep

Mac, duh!

Just kidding.. form your own reads smh