Everyone's JOATED: Guillo's Roles (Town Wins)

[Michelle]

reading Mansnicks Iso, it's rather empty and I want to keep his wagon up.
My TR on him existed rather because of the vibe and impression of him being contributive, but he was asking left and right things without following them up afterwards

Something on last Ender posts makes me to want him alive at this Eod

[VOTE: Mansnicks] aubergine

[Creature]

In Homestuck mash I only got sure Jaleb was town when he became top wagon two minutes away from deadline.

[Creature]

hollowkatt was quite UTR in Avatar game, but perhaps this is a game wolves can't just coast to a win.

[Creature]

I probably wouldn't do Ender either as he hit 100 posts, but meh.

[Creature]

Please no vanity wagons, vote one of HK/Ender/mansnicks, preferably Ender. Voting a vanity wagon is the same as not voting and makes it easy for mafia to dodge accountability.

Ok then let's have your 48 hours of work

[VOTE: mansnicks] aubergine

[Michelle]

Please no vanity wagons, vote one of HK/Ender/mansnicks, preferably Ender. Voting a vanity wagon is the same as not voting and makes it easy for mafia to dodge accountability.

Wasn't someone saying wolves were likely fine with the current wagons?

I don't know why they think that but I guarantee that a CFD is even worse. CFDs are almost always anti town, they are probably the worst trend to pop up in recent years and I wil repeat this until people stop trying to undo the work of 48 hours in 15 minutes.

I saw so many successful CFDs that in first days I want to have at least one

[Creature]

Wolves feel a lot more pressure when they are the top wagon ten minutes away from deadline than when they are the top wagon all day.

[Michelle]

I swear I'm too uninformed to be a wolf here.

don't swear

[Lime Coke]

Honestly looking at the wagons, I still feel like Mansnicks is the most likely to be a hit. I still haven't found him towny from when I noticed his odd posts.

[VOTE: Mansnicks] aubergine

[Garden Gnome]

Please no vanity wagons, vote one of HK/Ender/mansnicks, preferably Ender. Voting a vanity wagon is the same as not voting and makes it easy for mafia to dodge accountability.

Wasn't someone saying wolves were likely fine with the current wagons?

I don't know why they think that but I guarantee that a CFD is even worse. CFDs are almost always anti town, they are probably the worst trend to pop up in recent years and I wil repeat this until people stop trying to undo the work of 48 hours in 15 minutes.

It's easier to tell who is town and who is wolf when they are one or two minutes from being lynched.

How so? Both will squawk about it! Players usually prefer to be alive than dead!

[Creature]

I swear I'm too uninformed to be a wolf here.

don't swear

If you can't tell I don't have any TMI here, then there's no other way you'll be able to read me. Not sure if I can pick up activity this game and I'm hoping I die before the anni mash starts.

[Garden Gnome]

Honestly looking at the wagons, I still feel like Mansnicks is the most likely to be a hit. I still haven't found him towny from when I noticed his odd posts.

[VOTE: Mansnicks] aubergine

Odd and scummy is a good description of Mansnicks' posts!

[Creature]

Please no vanity wagons, vote one of HK/Ender/mansnicks, preferably Ender. Voting a vanity wagon is the same as not voting and makes it easy for mafia to dodge accountability.

Wasn't someone saying wolves were likely fine with the current wagons?

I don't know why they think that but I guarantee that a CFD is even worse. CFDs are almost always anti town, they are probably the worst trend to pop up in recent years and I wil repeat this until people stop trying to undo the work of 48 hours in 15 minutes.

It's easier to tell who is town and who is wolf when they are one or two minutes from being lynched.

How so? Both will squawk about it! Players usually prefer to be alive than dead!

Town sometimes just resign to death and that's when they bleed towniness while wolves can't do the same.

[Lime Coke]

This isn't a great time for me but I'll be in and out due to work. I'll try to get on as much before deadline.

[Creature]

Honestly looking at the wagons, I still feel like Mansnicks is the most likely to be a hit. I still haven't found him towny from when I noticed his odd posts.

[VOTE: Mansnicks] aubergine

Odd and scummy is a good description of Mansnicks' posts!

Why does GG sound like she's a talking doll?

[mansnicks]

This is just bad lol.
I assume that me and ember are among the top wagons because we're more abrasive and there's a retarded bias going around that abrasive = wolfy?

Ember and Scotty are my 2 strongest townreads while at least HK can be well in his open-wolfing range, so this is a no-brainer if I have to choose [VOTE: hollowkatt] aubergine

Did anyone even consider lynching listo? Does anyone even contemplate what other players are saying or is everyone just looking at who has same or opposite reads as them?

Meh, whatevs. I like dying early anyway.

[mansnicks]

Ohh it's ender not ember. Close enough

[Creature]

[VOTE: Scotty] aubergine

[Garden Gnome]

Please no vanity wagons, vote one of HK/Ender/mansnicks, preferably Ender. Voting a vanity wagon is the same as not voting and makes it easy for mafia to dodge accountability.

Wasn't someone saying wolves were likely fine with the current wagons?

I don't know why they think that but I guarantee that a CFD is even worse. CFDs are almost always anti town, they are probably the worst trend to pop up in recent years and I wil repeat this until people stop trying to undo the work of 48 hours in 15 minutes.

It's easier to tell who is town and who is wolf when they are one or two minutes from being lynched.

How so? Both will squawk about it! Players usually prefer to be alive than dead!

Town sometimes just resign to death and that's when they bleed towniness while wolves can't do the same.

That does make sense! On Day one, a townie can do that, knowing that their chop isn't going to be the one to give scum the victory! Scum never have that luxury since they start off being far fewer in number than townies.

[Guillotine]

[Garden Gnome]

Where are lost monkey and TonyStarkPrime?

[Michelle]

Where are lost monkey and TonyStarkPrime?

That's a very good question

[Dolby]

I hard dislike about 1/5 of Enders takes on his reads list, and his ISO has more fluff than I expected it to have. he does have some good looks IMO and I don’t think I could vote him over Mansnicks

[VOTE: Mansnicks] aubergine

[Dolby]

Also Michelle, your Ender read is like a rollercoaster lol

[mansnicks]

I hard dislike about 1/5 of Enders takes on his reads list, and his ISO has more fluff than I expected it to have. he does have some good looks IMO and I don’t think I could vote him over Mansnicks

[VOTE: Mansnicks] aubergine

[Michelle]

Also Michelle, your Ender read is like a rollercoaster lol

Sinusoidal reads are ok-ish

[Dolby]

I’d expect a vote on Ender from LoMo if they’re here rn

[mansnicks]

@hollowkatt if you're not open-wolfing, I'll be very angry on your ignorance combined with the utter impossibility to establish a dialogue with you.

I sincerely hope you're just open-wolfing and not actually a player like this.

[Flea the Magician]

6. @Flea the Magician ISO - 18 p, feels like a lazy town, but i can't put him above null rn, i would like him to post more, and to give some inputs

they/them pronouns Thank you <3

Sumimasen, i will try to keep it in mind. Playing on phone I can't see the pronouns part

Other than this, do you have any opinion about what i posted?

Honestly, I'm not a big fan of your list personally. Your method seems to be that you're a townhunter/poe type of player, which is always going have people looking at you suspiciously - and your list doesn't seem to fully have that conviction I'd expect from a townhunter.

your strongest read doesn't seem to be that strong, which is the biggest concern. (75% is not a strong read for a town hunter.)

75% is huge in day 1

Not for the style of play you seem to have. Generally I'd expect a townhunter to have a locktown or near locktown read by now. I've got 2. ^.^

yea, i have TH, Osie and HK closest to lock town

You seem to theorize my playstyle what about other people's playstyle? Tell me something about someone else. Like for eg HKs

HK hasn't really done that much for me to read in to, what I do get is they're a reflexive/defensive scum hunter. Also known as the OMGUSer.
Scummy style to play, but surprisingly effective if done right. Hasn't really done much to advance the game state that I've seen, but is responding to most attacks/votes and following through on them.

The reason this playstyle seems to be so effective is that quite simply it is scummy in how its methodology and is playable as either alignment with few chances of solidly AI slips

[Dolby]

I don’t think that Flea has put out any of their own takes that I understand the reasons to

[hollowkatt]

@hollowkatt if you're not open-wolfing, I'll be very angry on your ignorance combined with the utter impossibility to establish a dialogue with you.

I sincerely hope you're just open-wolfing and not actually a player like this.

What's that supposed to be other an insulting? Because that's all it is is insulting. Please stop being insulting.

[Dolby]

Nanook null

[Flea the Magician]

I don’t think that Flea has put out any of their own takes that I understand the reasons to

D1 and occasionally D2 are for observation.
I have a handful of reads, and I tend to not share the reasonings much.
Alison and Honey are locktown for me, beyond that honestly they're mostly gut reads.

[Michelle]

Nanook null

He is almost inexistent

[Flea the Magician]

@hollowkatt if you're not open-wolfing, I'll be very angry on your ignorance combined with the utter impossibility to establish a dialogue with you.

I sincerely hope you're just open-wolfing and not actually a player like this.

What's that supposed to be other an insulting? Because that's all it is is insulting. Please stop being insulting.

and thats a playstyle confirmation. kewl.

[mansnicks]

@hollowkatt if you're not open-wolfing, I'll be very angry on your ignorance combined with the utter impossibility to establish a dialogue with you.

I sincerely hope you're just open-wolfing and not actually a player like this.

What's that supposed to be other an insulting? Because that's all it is is insulting. Please stop being insulting.

I'm not insulting you. Only your play, and only under the condition that you're town.

This is the sort of reply that I'm referring to. Quick dismissal or shade with no effort whatever to establish a dialogue nor to try understand the other person.

[Dolby]

The only thing I like from TH’s ISO is how they read and interact with HK. Beyond that it’s information, interactions that don’t advance stuff for me, and commentary of the sort

[mansnicks]

@hollowkatt like show me 1 post where you were trying to understand where another player is coming from and trying to come to an understanding instead of just pushing your agenda.

I know you didn't with none of my posts directed towards you.

[hollowkatt]

@hollowkatt if you're not open-wolfing, I'll be very angry on your ignorance combined with the utter impossibility to establish a dialogue with you.

I sincerely hope you're just open-wolfing and not actually a player like this.

What's that supposed to be other an insulting? Because that's all it is is insulting. Please stop being insulting.

I'm not insulting you. Only your play, and only under the condition that you're town.

This is the sort of reply that I'm referring to. Quick dismissal or shade with no effort whatever to establish a dialogue nor to try understand the other person.

yup
And you are being insulting. Maybe next time say "I hope you're open-wolfing, not adopting this play style" instead of saying "you're a shit player".

[hollowkatt]

@hollowkatt like show me 1 post where you were trying to understand where another player is coming from and trying to come to an understanding instead of just pushing your agenda.

I know you didn't with none of my posts directed towards you.

nah, do your own homework. It's not my job to do it for you

[Dolby]

I see HK has as TR my top SR

the sun (a minor miracle) and this game! Let's catch some wicked scums!!! Who are you currently reading as scum?

mansnicks, honey, lime are the ones that are sticking out to me as scum. Mostly not caring though b/c finding town is better

All right, thank you!
Who are your strongest town reads right now?

me
mac
alison
dolby
ender

all right! Thank you!

Gnomey what reads do you have?

These are the people who come across as town to me, based on their tone. I like how they communicate and how they are pushing to solve. : Alison, Dolby, lime coke, triplehaven, and honey.

I usually struggle with scum reads on D1, and this game is no exception.

What are you thinking right now?

Want to ask how GG got these, particularly Lime Coke and TH, but they do vibe well and I think that their vote on Mansnicks isn’t scum motivated but I’d need to look more at vote history to be sure

[mansnicks]

@hollowkatt if you're not open-wolfing, I'll be very angry on your ignorance combined with the utter impossibility to establish a dialogue with you.

I sincerely hope you're just open-wolfing and not actually a player like this.

What's that supposed to be other an insulting? Because that's all it is is insulting. Please stop being insulting.

I'm not insulting you. Only your play, and only under the condition that you're town.

This is the sort of reply that I'm referring to. Quick dismissal or shade with no effort whatever to establish a dialogue nor to try understand the other person.

yup
And you are being insulting. Maybe next time say "I hope you're open-wolfing, not adopting this play style" instead of saying "you're a shit player".

Again the quick dismissal with the shade. This is gaslighting territory what you're doing now.

Fwiw, I sincerely hope you don't actually see my criticism of your play as an insult to you.

[hollowkatt]

@hollowkatt if you're not open-wolfing, I'll be very angry on your ignorance combined with the utter impossibility to establish a dialogue with you.

I sincerely hope you're just open-wolfing and not actually a player like this.

What's that supposed to be other an insulting? Because that's all it is is insulting. Please stop being insulting.

I'm not insulting you. Only your play, and only under the condition that you're town.

This is the sort of reply that I'm referring to. Quick dismissal or shade with no effort whatever to establish a dialogue nor to try understand the other person.

yup
And you are being insulting. Maybe next time say "I hope you're open-wolfing, not adopting this play style" instead of saying "you're a shit player".

Again the quick dismissal with the shade. This is gaslighting territory what you're doing now.

Fwiw, I sincerely hope you don't actually see my criticism of your play as an insult to you.

lolololol fucking gaslighting?!?
Someone has been spending too much time on AITA. Gaslighting is when I try to convince you that reality isn't reality.
You straight up fucking said "I sincerely hope you're just open-wolfing and not actually a player like this".
Nothing I said is different from reality.

Get bent

[Dolby]

Also want to ask GG how they felt about Mansnicks/Listo scumread at the time given Mansnicks vote on Listo

[mansnicks]

Alright, I'm sorry I criticised your play. I thought that's not personal tbh.

[listo95]

Okay I did a quick skim of what I’ve missed since going to sleep. I honestly don’t like any of the leading trains right now so I’m kinda at a loss on what to do...

[Guillotine]

mansnicks has been eliminated

He was Town

As Town Jack Of All Trades, you have access to one or more night actions. Don't have to use in any specific order.

x3 RocketKnight
The RocketKnight may each night pass a gun to another player in the game. Guns received from the RocketKnight can only be fired during day phases and have a 50% chance of revealing the shooter.

x3 RocketKnight
The RocketKnight may each night pass a gun to another player in the game. Guns received from the RocketKnight can only be fired during day phases and have a 50% chance of revealing the shooter.

x3 RocketKnight
The RocketKnight may each night pass a gun to another player in the game. Guns received from the RocketKnight can only be fired during day phases and have a 50% chance of revealing the shooter.

You got a limited amount of RocketKnight uses.

[Guillotine]

A Reminder that Nights last 21 hours and Dawns 3 hours.

[Guillotine]

TWO PLAYERS HAVE DIED!

Michelle was Mafia

► Show Spoiler

You win when you overpower the Town or there is nothing that can prevent it. You may not holster your actions

As Mafia, you have access to the Factional Night Kill Action. Players targeted with this action will die at the end of the Night unless protected. Submit your Night Action each night by private messaging any of the hosts. You may change your target as many times as you want. The last action submitted will be used. If no Mafia submit an action, a player will be picked at random from the living non-Mafia players.
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As Mafia Jack Of All Trades, you have access to one or more night actions. Don't have to use in any specific order.

x1 Replicator
The Replicator is a mafia-aligned role that may target another player at night, killing them and stealing one of their role actions (but not alignment). If the kill attempt is successful, the targeted player will be revealed as Replicator upon death. This role is utilized shouldn't be interpreted as a janitoring Vigilante, but rather as a role on the team that the mafia can elect to carry out the faction kill, similar to how strongman or ninja works. The stolen role action will replace this one along with its remaining shots. If the kill fails you get the shot back ONCE.

x2 Killing Framer
The killing framer may at night target a player. The killing framer will kill one random person who targets that player with a night action on that same night (except for investigations), in addition to making your target immune to the person's actions that night. If targeted by investigation actions, your target will show as opposite alignment. If targeted by multiple people, no one dies.

x3 Watcher
The Watcher may watch a player at night and learn the names of all the players that used a night action on that player that same night.

You get a limited amount of Replicator, Killing Framer and Watcher uses.

Falcon45ca was Town

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Town Jack Of All Trades.

You win when all mafia aligned players are eliminated.

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As Town Jack Of All Trades, you have access to one or more night actions. Don't have to use in any specific order

x3 Mirror
The Mirror will passively cause anyone visiting them at night to visit themselves instead. The Mirror will have no effect on any group actions or factional kills.

x2 Forensic Cop
At night, you may target a dead player to learn if they have post-morten role actions.
You will get a “Yes” or “No” and nothing else.

x1 Timeless Vigilante

On a cycle at any time, you may attempt to kill a player. This action resolves instantly (in real time)

You got a limited amount of Mirror, Forensic Cop and Timeless Vigilante uses.

Alison has been kidnapped!

[Guillotine]

Day 2 Countdown

1. @lost monkey ISO (Day 1 Posts: 17)
2. @MacDougall ISO (Day 1 Posts: 93)
4. @hollowkatt ISO (Day 1 Posts: 91)
5. @Lime Coke ISO (Day 1 Posts: 62)
6. @Flea the Magician ISO (Day 1 Posts: 27)
7. @NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME ISO (Day 1 Posts: 14)
8. @Alison ISO (Day 1 Posts: 85)
10. @EnderWiggin ISO (Day 1 Posts: 100)
11. @TripleHaven ISO (Day 1 Posts: 20)
12. @Dolby ISO (Day 1 Posts: 37)
13. @Scotty ISO (Day 1 Posts: 73)
14. @Garden Gnome ISO (Day 1 Posts: 33)
15. @honey ISO (Day 1 Posts: 87)
16. @Creature ISO (Day 1 Posts: 44)
17. @Seanzie ISO (Day 1 Posts: 36)
18. @listo95 ISO (Day 1 Posts: 15)
20. @TonyStarkPrime ISO (Day 1 Posts: 40)
21. @osieorb18 ISO (Day 1 Posts: 42)