The Syndicate

Maple wrote: ↑Thu Aug 06, 2020 10:33 am Gonna go back to ISOs today. Have a bit of a headache rn

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Thu Aug 06, 2020 9:47 am

sheepsaysmeep wrote: ↑Thu Aug 06, 2020 9:29 am

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Thu Aug 06, 2020 9:22 am Reading someone’s avatar isn’t angleshooting, sweet innocent child



They also have that avatar as the result of a bet, FYI.

why do i wake up to this

You must be cursed

sheepsaysmeep wrote: ↑Thu Aug 06, 2020 9:37 am maple's behavior post-claim is incredibly villager indicative yes but maple's also a capable enough wolf to keep wasting his time while going down

if hollowkatt's death was actually an elaborate prank for maple to die after xalt flipped then frankly they deserve their reward but you cant let the subject of that stuff go to lilo or anything

sheepsaysmeep wrote: ↑Thu Aug 06, 2020 9:34 am pooison can you give a readlist

do yoou think you are outside of your wolfrange

DaisyCloud wrote: ↑Thu Aug 06, 2020 9:32 am since it's clear we got multiple janitor stuff going on i think I'm back to thinking maple is town.

I wasn't completely sold and I stated what about more janitors.

@Marcher Jovian

has been continuously working on scum hunting. hasn't been hyper focused on just defending herself and thought she might be yeeted but continued to be game solvey.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Aug 05, 2020 10:06 pm The Shit Show Continues!

ThisIsNotAceMarvel has died.

Spoiler: show

He was LSP.

For one game day (day and night phase) you become a hellbeast. On that day your vote will count double, you cannot be thread killed and you have a day and night vigilante shot. You may activate this power at any time during the day.

Town.

Speedchuck has died.

Spoiler: show

He was a Geese Lycan.

What like some kind of weregoose? That's pretty brutal. Have you seen their teeth? You are vengeful. If you are killed in any way you may target another player to die with you.

Mafia.

tedxtr has died.

Spoiler: show

He was L (Death Note).

Choosing to use your skills for evil, while you are alive none of your factional kills will have their alignments or roles revealed

Mafia.

Urist has died.

Spoiler: show

He was redacted.

Jackofhearts2005 has died.

Spoiler: show

He was redacted.

Awesom-O has died.

Spoiler: show

He was iaafr.

Once during the game you may trigger an impromptu ITA session. You will need to message me a time with at least 12 hours notice before it occurs. Once it's locked in it will occur whether or not you die. The ITA session will last 30 minutes and each player in the game will get 15% shots.

Town.

Day 2 will begin shortly. I am still processing other night actions.

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Wed Aug 05, 2020 11:39 am

Poison Chan wrote: ↑Wed Aug 05, 2020 11:38 am

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Wed Aug 05, 2020 11:28 am

Poison Chan wrote: ↑Wed Aug 05, 2020 11:20 am

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Wed Aug 05, 2020 11:19 am Do you guys actually think mac is giving out vig shots? He already did this troll kek

Nanook, lemme ask you this straight, are you town?

Poison, let me answer you straight, I am town

Are you saying the truth?

Yes

Are you going to stop asking me insane questions now

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Wed Aug 05, 2020 11:28 am

Poison Chan wrote: ↑Wed Aug 05, 2020 11:20 am

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Wed Aug 05, 2020 11:19 am Do you guys actually think mac is giving out vig shots? He already did this troll kek

Nanook, lemme ask you this straight, are you town?

Poison, let me answer you straight, I am town

nutella wrote: ↑Tue Aug 04, 2020 1:25 am im bored and no one is here but i dont know what to do so i'm just gonna go through the player list and say whatever comes to mind



112 - conflicting feelings here. reads sound fake but not? + iaafr thought she was genuine idk
Adam_ - think jump finally came to a confident TR so should prob sheep that for now
Apogee - i think he said something about having an interesting role that made me not want him to die early?
AWESOM-O - hasn't done shit, can be wolf
beeboy - idr anything except nanook liked his entrance
cayvie - bunbunbunbunbun
ColinIsCool - hasn't shown up?
colonialbob - just showed up
DaisyCloud - shot mafia, even regardless of that pure af
DDL - spec chat medium, prob town?
DrWilgy - lock wilgy
Ephemeral - wolfy
Epignosis - tried to retire from mafia but mac forced him in, he's no-efforting as promised
Hank - uh this is some video friend of nanook's, idr anything
Hyena - we share some reads and he's in town meta imo
iaafr - obv town inno bunbun
iwan - doesnt seem to know what's going on
Jackofhearts2005 - has he posted? does he know the game started
Jumpluff - town leader
Justplayingitcool - claimed jk i think, killed tsp. mixed feelings here
Logic - town from sprityo interaction
Long Con - idk this guy is always 3p
Maple - peeked town
Marcher Jovian - i dont remember anything specific but feel like that's a good sign
MartinGG99 - kinda wolfy but maybe twtbw?
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME - stump
nutella - tim hortons
Poison Chan - townish
polypies73 - i dont remember liking anything from this guy, can be wolf
PunchyTheCat - townish, we've mindmelded on a couple things, disagreed on a couple things
sabie12 - don't remember anything from
sheepsaysmeep - yes.
Shizune - who
Silverkeith - love of my life
Sloonei - just a wolf lmao
speedchuck - honk
Sprityo - town
tedxtr - i only skimmed whatever happened with him early that was apparently interesting but iirc some people i like TR him
TenThousandCalories - lol
ThisIsNotAceMarvel - waffled on this guy a bit but currently townleaning for blowing up about the spanish thing
Timsup2nothin - actually just rand
Urist - kinda trolly and not in a towny way
WerewolfHunter - delicious ice cream
xalt - feels like he's been influential but dunno that i could tell you what hes actually done

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Wed Aug 05, 2020 11:19 am Do you guys actually think mac is giving out vig shots? He already did this troll kek

cayvie wrote: ↑Wed Aug 05, 2020 5:04 am

Poison Chan wrote: ↑Wed Aug 05, 2020 5:03 am It's near EoD and the top wagons are dead town.

join me on maple & ted tbh

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Wed Aug 05, 2020 5:02 am @Poison Chan who are the three redacted again?

jumpluff wrote: ↑Wed Aug 05, 2020 5:02 am

Poison Chan wrote: ↑Wed Aug 05, 2020 5:01 am

jumpluff wrote: ↑Wed Aug 05, 2020 4:57 am

MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Aug 05, 2020 4:16 am Xalt has died.

Spoiler: show

Xalt was Katarina Du Couteau.

You are an undetectable, unstoppable anytime janitor vigilante with three shots. But to get the 2nd and 3rd shot you have to kill a mafia teammate with the first one. You cannot use the first one on anything other than a mafia teammate.

Mafia.

the only defences of maple's i didn't like were ephemeral (meta defence) and xalt (no reasoning + mafia read)

:S
dunno

If I put a theory here, HK was scum and did it on purpose to somehow clear Maple in a world both are scum. With that, HK had nothing but scumminess only the claim was in his positive side. I have scum read him based in his posts mostly. But with this flip it makes sense that HK was scum and Maple is too. At least that's what I believe.

[VOTE: Maple] aubergine

Yes, that's what I'm saying

But we don't know Maple is scum even though he claimed miller before HK did the thing, and it sound like something w!Manti would do

I wish I had iaafr here or something

jumpluff wrote: ↑Wed Aug 05, 2020 4:57 am

MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Aug 05, 2020 4:16 am Xalt has died.

Spoiler: show

Xalt was Katarina Du Couteau.

You are an undetectable, unstoppable anytime janitor vigilante with three shots. But to get the 2nd and 3rd shot you have to kill a mafia teammate with the first one. You cannot use the first one on anything other than a mafia teammate.

Mafia.

the only defences of maple's i didn't like were ephemeral (meta defence) and xalt (no reasoning + mafia read)

:S
dunno

MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Aug 05, 2020 4:47 am All Flips

Tonystarkprime - The Embodiment of Champs Hero Syndrome - Town
Trustworthy Liberal - Jinx - Indie
Relm - Chevalier D'Eon - Town
hollowkatt - [Redacted]
Exalt - George A Tsoukalos - Town
Funnygurl555 - [NSM] Mikey - Mafia
motel room - The Shame After Masturbation - Town
Rej - Victor Steinberg - Town
112 - Darth Vader - Town
Adam_ - A Power Rack - Town
Marcher Jovian - [Redacted]
MartinGG99 - That One Roblox Character (oof!) - Town
polypies73 - Wario - Town
Silverkeith - Spanish Nutella - Town
xalt - Katarina - Mafia

So that you can see who is still voting that shouldn't be.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Aug 03, 2020 7:00 am Day 1 Begins


On the way to the ring. From West Newbury, Mass weighing in at 251 pounds. Juan Cena!


Welcome to Day 1 - Wrestlemania!

On day 1 there will be TWO eliminations via thread poll. Both the first and second highest vote getter will be eliminated from the game. You may cast two votes. You are not required to post your vote in the thread.

The following players cannot be voted on during day 1.

Silverkeith
Jackofhearts2005
Timsup2nothin
DrWilgy
Shizune
Apogee
polypies73
Justplayingitcool
sabie12
Adam_

In Thread Attack Window

There will also be an "In Thread Attack Window" in exactly 2 hours from now. The ITA will be done manually as we are not MU. ITA rules, you must post in red bold ITA= followed by the player you wish to fire at. ie.

ITA=MacDougall

Each player has a 1 in 5 chance of landing and I will be using random.org to do the honours.

There will also be an in thread attack window in 14 hours from now. Both ITAs will last 30 minutes, and day 1 will be the only day that has in thread attack windows.

Replacements and Minimum Effort Policy

I will not be replacing anyone in this game so if anyone requests a sub they will be mod-killed in a non aggressive friendly way. Anyone who fails to post during an entire day phase will also be mod-killed in an aggressive non friendly way.

Enjoy.

Marcher Jovian wrote: ↑Tue Aug 04, 2020 10:08 pm lmao the dead ghost of tsp is voting for himself

tedxtr wrote: ↑Tue Aug 04, 2020 1:57 pm I'm vetoing Poison votes because I have meta with them btw

if you vote there you will be held accountable

Iwan wrote: ↑Tue Aug 04, 2020 1:55 pm Rule 110: Newcomers should be helped when they are in need

MartinGG99 wrote: ↑Tue Aug 04, 2020 1:54 pm

Poison Chan wrote: ↑Tue Aug 04, 2020 1:50 pm Uhh I'm assuming I have nothing to respond to here?

Nope. I just thought it may be polite to @ mention you since it may be relevant to you, since you @ mentioned me with a response.

ColinIsCool wrote: ↑Tue Aug 04, 2020 1:45 pm

Poison Chan wrote: ↑Tue Aug 04, 2020 1:38 pm

ColinIsCool wrote: ↑Tue Aug 04, 2020 1:37 pm Sloonei is open-wolfing lol [VOTE: Sloonei] aubergine

True tbh, at least he is different from whatever little I played with him.

Also who are you? Did we interact before? So many new faces. Smh smh.

I’m Colin, and I’m bad at this game.

MartinGG99 wrote: ↑Tue Aug 04, 2020 1:43 pm

Spoiler: show

Poison Chan wrote: ↑Tue Aug 04, 2020 1:23 pm Martin, I'll be answering according to your points, including the ones within the spoiler,

-why I chose to shoot Tim over maple when I said that earlier?
Maple was green checked by HK, a strongman cop iirc, the term, which was after Maple's Miller claim. Even though I scum read someone, I cannot totally overlook a mech check followed by the death of the claimed cop with redacted role.


-the veto list? I explained the veto list thing somewhat to tim before and the one you quoted, well why I chose tim over maple is written above and why I did not follow the veto list? Let's take an example, you are a town and you are scum reading me, now suddenly someone who has my meta say ted, vetos me, would you not go forward and take actions against me as a town when you are not sure whether ted is scum or town himself? @Timsup2nothin you read it too.

-ITAS
If you scroll up a bit you'll see my reply to Hyena about the ITA thing.

-hank/poison
I don't know what you meant by "thrown out" also, I think it's likely to be a TvT.

@MartinGG99 anything else?

@Poison Chan

Okay. I think they're perfectly acceptable reasons. I'm giving a response to each of them here:

Spoiler: show

-I forgot Maple was mech checked by hollowcat (I really need to make a list of notes for remembering context).

-In my personal experience though, I would go with the veto list given my inexperience (which ironically showed itself when I shot someone on the veto list...And that wasn't really even due to inexperience tbh). I wasn't really holding it against you for going against the veto list -- only that at the time I didn't know why you went Tim over Maple. Your ISO now, with the context of response/point #1 shows thought progression that I'm now not suspicious of.

-Point/Response #3 is related to Point #2 above. I didn't have an exact problem with the ITA's, but rather how you came to those conclusions. Obviously, I missed a few details in context (there are quite a large # of posts).

-What I meant by "thrown out" is the person who loses. Unless I'm unaware of some mechanic, IDK if its possible to save you both in the fight so it seems like it being "TvT" is irrelevant since now I have to judge you both on a relative level to decide who'll die.

As I said, the only points in there were my only issues. I don't like that one of yall have to die (Hank + Poison Chan). I'm bit indecisive at the moment for most people. I'll vote hank on a basis of "who may have more utility in the long run", and I don't think Hank is going have any long-game utility or content if he tunnels on you or other people like he did today. Once again, this is a relative determination, not whether I think you're both town or not.

Moving my single vote in accordance, unless @Hank has something to say that hasn't been discussed already?

[VOTE: Hank] aubergine

Timsup2nothin wrote: ↑Tue Aug 04, 2020 1:37 pm

Poison Chan wrote: ↑Tue Aug 04, 2020 1:23 pm

MartinGG99 wrote: ↑Tue Aug 04, 2020 12:01 pm So, I looked through Poison's ISO, and here are most of my thoughts on him, or at least on things that are or may be AI.

Spoiler: show

One of the things I'm wondering is why he choose Tim over Maple when he said this earlier:

Poison Chan wrote: ↑Mon Aug 03, 2020 10:51 am I'm probably shooting Tim/maple in the next ITA.

(Big quote below)

Spoiler: show

Poison Chan wrote: ↑Tue Aug 04, 2020 7:27 am

Timsup2nothin wrote: ↑Tue Aug 04, 2020 6:46 am

Poison Chan wrote: ↑Tue Aug 04, 2020 5:45 am

PunchyTheCat wrote: ↑Mon Aug 03, 2020 9:55 pm ITA2 Spicy Shots
Urist - Rej - [/color]HIT, Town Doctor/Vig thing (cool role)
Poison - Timsup2nothin - MISS
iaafr - motel room - HIT, Town Odd Night Somewhat Guilty Vigilante
WerewolfHunter - Xalt - MISS
MartinGG99 - Exalt - HIT, Town Role Cop?
DaisyCloud - funnygirl55 - HIT, Mafia Mikey Sub Out Traveller Thing
Marcher Jovian - sprityo - MISS
Long Con - NANOOK - Refunded/failed
jumpluff - Long Con - MISS
SilverKeith - Ephemeral - MISS
Adam - AWESOME-O - MISS

there's 5+ wolves in this

Ok so this. Urist was bad to randomly shoot rej out of nowhere will iso him then Martin maybe.

@jumpluff why long con?

Also I would like to iso Adam later.

The thing that is bad about Urist's shot is that he hit a townie. Bad luck that with (probably) shots that were on wolves missing the shot that hits was that one...but the fact that it hit doesn't automatically make it more wolfy than any other shot targeting a townie.

Yours, for example.

I understand that the only person that knows I am a townie is me. But the town makes a shot list and a veto list for a reason. It keeps wolves from being able to just plink away as they see fit because we know that their preference is going to be to shoot townies. By ignoring the lists a townie provides cover for wolves. So in that regard Urist's shot, while having unfortunate results, was not as "bad" as yours.

I shot at you specifically because you committed ahead of time that you were going to take a bad shot and nothing snort of killing you was going to stop you.

So here's the thing...I don't like Hank's role. If he is a wolf he is always going to target town, and maybe he already has. If he is town he doesn't seem to be following the game closely enough to make good choices consistently. Either way I am unlikely to cry over his demise.

However, I shot at you for a good reason, so I can't pretend that I would cry over your demise either. Unless...you get it. Show me that you understand the point of the lists, and agree to abide by them. I'm always gonna say wolfy shit anyway, so chances are good that if I live very long I'll wind up on the shot list and you can shoot at me then and feel good about it. But the town can't allow hero shotting townies that give cover to wolves.

Okay?

@Poison Chan

I'm really very sorry sir, and tbh, even if you shoot me again or make others shoot me I won't be following any lists which are made by unknown alignments cause nothing and no one is spewed town yet and it's day 1 and I don't trust those whom you have taken for a fact are TOWN, again.

The thing is, Idc about the list, in that list I'm boldly predicting at least 2-3 wolves are there . So if you really think I would be laying low for the sake of surviving a little more by listening to those blindly instead of scum hunting based on my reads and assumptions and intuitions then you are wrong.

The fact you have consistently said opposite about almost all my scum reads till now is concerning.

also, you don't have to cry over my demise, my ability flip would bring drama in your life.

He states early on with his plan to shoot Maple or Tim, but decides to go after Tim despite the fact that Maple was creating a veto list that included Tim in it? Why didn't he shoot Maple, especially if he were "boldly predicting" 2-3 wolves were in it?

Other than this, most of his other posts I don't feel particularly scummy or towny about.

His reactions to the first ITA window seemed a bit meme-y or silly and wanting to see "spicy" (If I'm using the term right?) things, at least from my PoV. His interactions on the 2nd ITA window seemed to be because of the first, so I'm not sure if I can call it scummy or suspicious that he acted a bit differently in comparison to the 1st and 2nd windows.

Spoiler: show

Poison Chan wrote: ↑Mon Aug 03, 2020 9:22 am

Justplayingitcool wrote: ↑Mon Aug 03, 2020 9:20 am ITA=TonyStarkPrime

I'm getting chills. You are interesting.

Also, in light of the Hank + Poison fight situation, I'm leaning towards Poison being thrown out if possible. I looked at Hank and I don't have any objections or negative thoughts about him so far. If mafia wanted to get rid of Poison Chan I feel they would've tried to wait and check out other routes to do that rather than just use a potentially back-firing ability before the first 24 hours of the game.

Martin, I'll be answering according to your points, including the ones within the spoiler,

-why I chose to shoot Tim over maple when I said that earlier?
Maple was green checked by HK, a strongman cop iirc, the term, which was after Maple's Miller claim. Even though I scum read someone, I cannot totally overlook a mech check followed by the death of the claimed cop with redacted role.


-the veto list? I explained the veto list thing somewhat to tim before and the one you quoted, well why I chose tim over maple is written above and why I did not follow the veto list? Let's take an example, you are a town and you are scum reading me, now suddenly someone who has my meta say ted, vetos me, would you not go forward and take actions against me as a town when you are not sure whether ted is scum or town himself? @Timsup2nothin you read it too.

-ITAS
If you scroll up a bit you'll see my reply to Hyena about the ITA thing.

-hank/poison
I don't know what you meant by "thrown out" also, I think it's likely to be a TvT.

@MartinGG99 anything else?

I think we already covered that. If ITAs are going to be good for the town then they have to be organized and controlled by consensus, not just hero shotting villagers running amok. So, yeah, I abide by the consensus. A fair number of people told me the person I wanted to shoot was just town, and when I suggested my next choice there was a lot less disagreement. That doesn't mean the there were no wolves among the people disagreeing with my first choice or make my first choice some kind of lock villager, but it is a better guide than my own wild hero shotting feelings would likely be.

Sloonei wrote: ↑Tue Aug 04, 2020 1:40 pm

Poison Chan wrote: ↑Tue Aug 04, 2020 1:38 pm

ColinIsCool wrote: ↑Tue Aug 04, 2020 1:37 pm Sloonei is open-wolfing lol [VOTE: Sloonei] aubergine

True tbh, at least he is different from whatever little I played with him.

Also who are you? Did we interact before? So many new faces. Smh smh.

Dr Sloonman will act according to the schemes set out for him!

ColinIsCool wrote: ↑Tue Aug 04, 2020 1:37 pm Sloonei is open-wolfing lol [VOTE: Sloonei] aubergine

WerewolfHunter wrote: ↑Tue Aug 04, 2020 1:36 pm

Poison Chan wrote: ↑Tue Aug 04, 2020 1:34 pm

WerewolfHunter wrote: ↑Tue Aug 04, 2020 1:12 pm

Poison Chan wrote: ↑Tue Aug 04, 2020 1:07 pm

WerewolfHunter wrote: ↑Tue Aug 04, 2020 11:58 am i'm somewhat here now

Where were you? What are your reads?

sleeping, eating, playing other games, trying to catch up, taking an online class for fun, texting for Biden's campaign, checking college stuff as well.

I think the reads I have from yesterday have stayed pretty similar. However, I'm starting to think Punchy may not be village here

Right now, I would prefer Hank thunderdome wise.

Apart from texting for the campaign, you are me. : O

Gl with college stuff

lol. yes. My college just moved from in person to online.

I believe I have 4 werewolf/mafia games ongoing right now lol.

nutella wrote: ↑Tue Aug 04, 2020 1:33 pm hey people stop writing paragraphs