The Syndicate

Master Radishes wrote: ↑Sun Feb 13, 2022 5:27 pm GG team thanks for the carry.

np

alexa wrote: ↑Thu Feb 03, 2022 6:56 pm 112 is probably a hit for threadstate reasons

never make a read like this again pls. lol.

switched from sabie to [VOTE: guillotine] aubergine

big sorry i got super distracted

i cant tell you that the other 9-wagons are wolf but for watever ates does i can promise you i am 100% sure my yeet = town death

so ye

yeah i actually think paopon is wolfing after reading this whole page

Paopan wrote: ↑Thu Feb 03, 2022 5:19 pm Oh wait... Sabie, c4 Sig dropped... what? 112, Guillo, TSP increased?

I'm getting more confident than before that we got wolves inside this pool

wolfy post

why is alexa voting for me?

i could be convinced to switch from sig to guillo

i might even convince myself

Master Radishes wrote: ↑Thu Feb 03, 2022 3:38 pm I'm not fully caught up but I'm at the part about Guillo baselessly speculating on multiple scum factions.

Changing my vote to Guillo. The guy who designs game like they're going out of style misinterpreting game design info that's clearly stated in the OP? Nah fam.

epic thoughts

Sloonei wrote: ↑Thu Feb 03, 2022 3:24 pm Pretty sure Shakespeare used a laptop to write parts of The Tempest, fwiw

right but King Lear was his best stuff and he only used the Oxford English Dictionary for that one, albeit he was streaming music while he wrote

if falc really does have a greencheck on MR (i haven't read the check, only heard about it secondarily), it's fair to say they're both town fwiw

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Thu Feb 03, 2022 3:14 pm
alexa wrote: ↑Thu Feb 03, 2022 2:32 pm Village
alexa
Belzy
dyachei
Creature
Guillotine
ilario
Master Radishes
Porscha

c4/Sloonei

Some V Pings But Could Be Anything
112
sabie12
falcon45ca
Justplayingitcool
LinearPoint
Paopan

3P
hollowkatt

IDC, Can Die, Has Wolves
DrWilgy
Phil and Gloria
sig
TonyStarkPrime
i describe this set of read sas mildly insane

insane in the membrane / INSANE IN THE BRAIN

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Thu Feb 03, 2022 3:12 pm this has slowed down my poem writing

you know, Alfred Lord Tennyson wrote all of his poems without the use of a computer...

sabie12 wrote: ↑Thu Feb 03, 2022 5:11 am
112 wrote: ↑Mon Jan 31, 2022 7:40 pm
Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Mon Jan 31, 2022 7:38 pm
112 wrote: ↑Mon Jan 31, 2022 7:36 pm i am convinced that nobody who plays mafia with me knows how to read me these days.

i do not even know how to read myself.

i am unreadable.

i am god.
Join the club lol. Didn't you nag all game that I was scum last GoC, and then you turned out to be some cult anti-town monster 3p or something? HMMM
i do not remember more than 5 minutes ago generally, so not sure

i will townread you for the rest of the game because of this interaction, however

112 wrote: ↑Mon Jan 31, 2022 7:41 pm
Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Mon Jan 31, 2022 7:41 pm
112 wrote: ↑Mon Jan 31, 2022 7:40 pmi do not remember more than 5 minutes ago generally, so not sure

i will townread you for the rest of the game because of this interaction, however
I think you've done it twice as scum actually. You should probably choose a different tactic next time. The north remembers.
I will note this in my memory logs.
Looked through 112 iso and this was the one notable odd interaction I noticed. What is the pattern that dizzy is referring to like that 112 picks someone to tunnel all game as scum? Is that a thing?

no, i don't do that, or i don't think i do. probably i've done it here-and-there but i really doubt it's a pattern of my scum game.

i do have a habit of scumreading dizzy in particular (when i'm town) but usually i've been right about it as far as i can recall.

switched from tsp back to [VOTE: wilgy] aubergine

Sloonei wrote: ↑Thu Feb 03, 2022 12:17 am
TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Wed Feb 02, 2022 11:48 pm
alexa wrote: ↑Wed Feb 02, 2022 11:47 pm
Guillotine wrote: ↑Wed Feb 02, 2022 11:45 pm If 112 flips town or not mafia, ilario is as good as dead!
ilario is town. he wouldn't shoot his partner there at that exact timing
well, there is a Socrates in the role pool, as someone pointed out earlier
huh?

Ignorance will get you nowhere, just like it did for Socrates.

probably i should switch from tsp to wilgy but instead of doing so right now i'm going to air the thought and stew on it

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Wed Feb 02, 2022 11:48 pm
alexa wrote: ↑Wed Feb 02, 2022 11:47 pm
Guillotine wrote: ↑Wed Feb 02, 2022 11:45 pm If 112 flips town or not mafia, ilario is as good as dead!
ilario is town. he wouldn't shoot his partner there at that exact timing
well, there is a Socrates in the role pool, as someone pointed out earlier

I have things to say about Socrates, few of them kind.

Master Radishes wrote: ↑Wed Feb 02, 2022 8:13 pm
Justplayingitcool wrote: ↑Wed Feb 02, 2022 7:44 pm Radishes make a read on me
You seem like a decent bloke

It's too late. He's been over there too long. MR is British and he's never coming back.

LET IT RAND

imo sabie and i both get to live so we can win the poetry comp together

sabie12 wrote: ↑Wed Feb 02, 2022 7:57 pm I submitted a poem I wrote before. It sounds like as long you wrote it it's fine.

EPIC

it is ironic, i'll say, that they yeeted 112 when had they trusted her instead, there would have been a nugget of a better chance at securing a town victory. haHA! erroneous decision-making strikes again!

can't wait to be right about 1/10th of things i posted this game and lord it over everyone from specchat when i'm chopped

Master Radishes wrote: ↑Wed Feb 02, 2022 7:17 pm I feel like I should be able to place a read on 112 and/or Falcon over this exchange but my brain feels foggy this game.

112 *can* have a wide scum range, but doesn't usually stretch it. Like during Champs a few years ago she reached new heights imo, but in your average game she fits a certain pattern...and I don't know that this is it. Basically I don't want to discount 112 being scum here because I don't know anything precludes it, but GTH meta read is she's more likely town.

Falcon I just...maybe I'm just pocketed by the green check, but it felt real to me, the whole progression of it. He was uncertain of me in D1 as I recall (honestly I should check this at some point), then suddenly was overly confident on me in D2 and quietly showed that throughout the early round. He's not wrong that we were both receiving a middling amount of votes, and at some point I pressed him, he threw his hands up and declared the check, and it just felt right to me because that's what I thought he was hinting at.

So I kind of think both could be town or maybe I just want them to be. But equally if they are, then we better hit with sig/sabie or else my reads are so bad that I'm going to help throw this game for town.

falc investigating you also makes a lot of sense to me.

in MU anniversary 2021 he had an investigative role and chose to use it on me n1 out of 150+ people.

so he does have a history of using his roles on people he's familiar with as opposed to going by other metrics to decide.

4th vote [VOTE: tsp] aubergine

Master Radishes wrote: ↑Wed Feb 02, 2022 7:18 pm Yeah Falcon doesn't fake checks from what I remember.

hmm
yeah he doesn't

Creature wrote: ↑Wed Feb 02, 2022 7:14 pm If someone shady wins a vig shot for tomorrow and wants to clear themselves, perhaps they can shoot Guillotine.

i prefer to take a wild hero shot thank-you

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Wed Feb 02, 2022 7:14 pm
112 wrote: ↑Wed Feb 02, 2022 7:06 pm
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Wed Feb 02, 2022 7:04 pm
112 wrote: ↑Wed Feb 02, 2022 6:52 pm
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Wed Feb 02, 2022 6:49 pm
112 wrote: ↑Wed Feb 02, 2022 6:33 pm
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Wed Feb 02, 2022 6:15 pm

He and I have had a heart to heart, I can sure you he's Town, thru and thru.

Why do you feel he's Maf?
:/

you are severely wolf this game and i don't see how others don't see it

instead of asking me why i think you're wolf, tell me why you're town imo
The burden of proof is on the believer. You believe I'm scum, it's your burden.

Plus I asked you first.

It feels like your scum read on me is just "he's coasting"...how am I coasting? I engage the thread regularly and answer questions.

What, am I supposed to have lynched all the wolves by now? What's your expectation of my town game?

Plus, it's D2. Why don't we see who flips? My read on Alison turned out wrong, same w/ MR, but I don't feel I'm covered in town blood. Do you?
actually what's happening here is that you're passing the buck onto me and pretending you have no obligations in this exchange when fairly that's false

how about this: i am scumreading you because your full assessment of yourself at this point in the game is that you're regularly engaging in the thread and answering questions; it's inadequate and someone who is town should be able to offer more details about their game and participation that reflect well on them.
Passing the buck while answering your question?

You not liking my answer and me passing the buck are not the same thing.

You were scum reading me.before my self assessment, so you're not even fairly engaging in this discourse.

Also, it's D2. What am I supposed to have done by now, other than engage the thread, give reads, answer questions?
so there is nothing you have done this game you could not reproduce as a wolf?
Actually, there is. MRs green check.

I've never, in 6 years of Maf, faked a claim

link?

c4e5g3d5 wrote: ↑Wed Feb 02, 2022 7:12 pm
112 wrote: ↑Wed Feb 02, 2022 7:08 pm
c4e5g3d5 wrote: ↑Wed Feb 02, 2022 7:05 pm
112 wrote: ↑Wed Feb 02, 2022 6:59 pm
c4e5g3d5 wrote: ↑Wed Feb 02, 2022 6:59 pm
112 wrote: ↑Wed Feb 02, 2022 6:52 pm how about this: i am scumreading you because your full assessment of yourself at this point in the game is that you're regularly engaging in the thread and answering questions; it's inadequate and someone who is town should be able to offer more details about their game and participation that reflect well on them.
This is dumb
Prove it.
I mean it's not exactly a convenient thing to prove per se but

One of my least favorite things in games of mafia is when people ask me to say what makes me town and I can't answer because I've been paying attention to, you know, the rest of the list all game like I should be, and figuring out why I'm towny is supposed to be everyone else's job anyway, and then people go "Where's your answer? Hmm? HMMMM?" and then I get MLed.

I don't get why it exists and is excused and it's usually done by wolves but when it isn't it's especially annoying.
fair but i'm not sure you get why i'm engaging with falcon and why i'm engaging the way i am
That's because I don't
Either because it doesn't make sense or because I actually have to read all of it for it to make sense

But your point independently doesn't make sense and it doesn't look like something I should need to read associated materials for because it's a blanket statement about the game

i am not talking to you, i'm talking to falcon.

i know what i'm submitting if i'm allowed to use old stuff
dunno if i want to bother writing something if not though

c4e5g3d5 wrote: ↑Wed Feb 02, 2022 7:05 pm
112 wrote: ↑Wed Feb 02, 2022 6:59 pm
c4e5g3d5 wrote: ↑Wed Feb 02, 2022 6:59 pm
112 wrote: ↑Wed Feb 02, 2022 6:52 pm how about this: i am scumreading you because your full assessment of yourself at this point in the game is that you're regularly engaging in the thread and answering questions; it's inadequate and someone who is town should be able to offer more details about their game and participation that reflect well on them.
This is dumb
Prove it.
I mean it's not exactly a convenient thing to prove per se but

One of my least favorite things in games of mafia is when people ask me to say what makes me town and I can't answer because I've been paying attention to, you know, the rest of the list all game like I should be, and figuring out why I'm towny is supposed to be everyone else's job anyway, and then people go "Where's your answer? Hmm? HMMMM?" and then I get MLed.

I don't get why it exists and is excused and it's usually done by wolves but when it isn't it's especially annoying.

fair but i'm not sure you get why i'm engaging with falcon and why i'm engaging the way i am

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Wed Feb 02, 2022 7:04 pm
112 wrote: ↑Wed Feb 02, 2022 6:52 pm
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Wed Feb 02, 2022 6:49 pm
112 wrote: ↑Wed Feb 02, 2022 6:33 pm
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Wed Feb 02, 2022 6:15 pm
112 wrote: ↑Wed Feb 02, 2022 6:04 pm afk fishing at catherby, musing about the game.

i just lost the game.

falcon45ca = mafia is my legacy assuming eod is in like an hour.
He and I have had a heart to heart, I can sure you he's Town, thru and thru.

Why do you feel he's Maf?
:/

you are severely wolf this game and i don't see how others don't see it

instead of asking me why i think you're wolf, tell me why you're town imo
The burden of proof is on the believer. You believe I'm scum, it's your burden.

Plus I asked you first.

It feels like your scum read on me is just "he's coasting"...how am I coasting? I engage the thread regularly and answer questions.

What, am I supposed to have lynched all the wolves by now? What's your expectation of my town game?

Plus, it's D2. Why don't we see who flips? My read on Alison turned out wrong, same w/ MR, but I don't feel I'm covered in town blood. Do you?
actually what's happening here is that you're passing the buck onto me and pretending you have no obligations in this exchange when fairly that's false

how about this: i am scumreading you because your full assessment of yourself at this point in the game is that you're regularly engaging in the thread and answering questions; it's inadequate and someone who is town should be able to offer more details about their game and participation that reflect well on them.
Passing the buck while answering your question?

You not liking my answer and me passing the buck are not the same thing.

You were scum reading me.before my self assessment, so you're not even fairly engaging in this discourse.

Also, it's D2. What am I supposed to have done by now, other than engage the thread, give reads, answer questions?

so there is nothing you have done this game you could not reproduce as a wolf?

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Wed Feb 02, 2022 6:59 pm Heart of a Poet

Send the hosts a poem by February 3, 4pm eastern. They will be read overnight. The two favorites (among living players) will receive a reward at the start of D3 (winners will be informed privately). It can be any kind of poem, but if it doesn't rhyme it had better be really good and/or funny.

Spoiler: show
@ 112
@ alexa
@ Belzy
@ c4e5g3d5
@ Creature
@ DrWilgy
@ dyachei
@ falcon45ca
@ Guillotine
@ hollowkatt
@ ilario
@ Justplayingitcool
@ LinearPoint
@ Master Radishes
@ Paopan
@ Phil and Gloria
@ Porscha
@ sabie12
@ sig
@ Sloonei
@ TonyStarkPrime

does it have to be new or can we submit things we wrote a long time ago?

c4e5g3d5 wrote: ↑Wed Feb 02, 2022 6:59 pm
112 wrote: ↑Wed Feb 02, 2022 6:52 pm how about this: i am scumreading you because your full assessment of yourself at this point in the game is that you're regularly engaging in the thread and answering questions; it's inadequate and someone who is town should be able to offer more details about their game and participation that reflect well on them.
This is dumb

Prove it.

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Wed Feb 02, 2022 6:49 pm
112 wrote: ↑Wed Feb 02, 2022 6:33 pm
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Wed Feb 02, 2022 6:15 pm
112 wrote: ↑Wed Feb 02, 2022 6:04 pm afk fishing at catherby, musing about the game.

i just lost the game.

falcon45ca = mafia is my legacy assuming eod is in like an hour.
He and I have had a heart to heart, I can sure you he's Town, thru and thru.

Why do you feel he's Maf?
:/

you are severely wolf this game and i don't see how others don't see it

instead of asking me why i think you're wolf, tell me why you're town imo
The burden of proof is on the believer. You believe I'm scum, it's your burden.

Plus I asked you first.

It feels like your scum read on me is just "he's coasting"...how am I coasting? I engage the thread regularly and answer questions.

What, am I supposed to have lynched all the wolves by now? What's your expectation of my town game?

Plus, it's D2. Why don't we see who flips? My read on Alison turned out wrong, same w/ MR, but I don't feel I'm covered in town blood. Do you?

actually what's happening here is that you're passing the buck onto me and pretending you have no obligations in this exchange when fairly that's false

how about this: i am scumreading you because your full assessment of yourself at this point in the game is that you're regularly engaging in the thread and answering questions; it's inadequate and someone who is town should be able to offer more details about their game and participation that reflect well on them.

sabie12 wrote: ↑Wed Feb 02, 2022 6:41 pm Ohh 112 thinks I'm supreme thank you! For real though I didn't mean to be coming off as AtE sorry about that if it seemed that way. I complained a bit but I'm not the only one who was feeling frustrated by the weird dynamic this multi vote thing has caused. Not sure why 112 has it out for me so bad this game but its okay I'm not mad about it. I'm heading out of work and will catch up more when I get home.

Creature wrote: ↑Wed Feb 02, 2022 6:38 pm alexa
Belzy
falcon45ca
Porscha

I think all need to be looked at

i still have a townread on belzy
you're right about alexa - i see her posting a lot but idk where her posts really go sometimes?
falcon is wolfing
porscha i barely remembering anything from so i'll abstain from commenting

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Wed Feb 02, 2022 6:15 pm
112 wrote: ↑Wed Feb 02, 2022 6:04 pm afk fishing at catherby, musing about the game.

i just lost the game.

falcon45ca = mafia is my legacy assuming eod is in like an hour.
He and I have had a heart to heart, I can sure you he's Town, thru and thru.

Why do you feel he's Maf?

:/

you are severely wolf this game and i don't see how others don't see it

instead of asking me why i think you're wolf, tell me why you're town imo

Master Radishes wrote: ↑Wed Feb 02, 2022 6:01 pm Please dear god let us hit at least one.

Trite and unemotional.

afk fishing at catherby, musing about the game.

i just lost the game.

falcon45ca = mafia is my legacy assuming eod is in like an hour.

Phil and Gloria wrote: ↑Wed Feb 02, 2022 5:26 pm Mac sounds off

yes cuz last time you saw me I was drunk and belligerent and now I'm timid and hungover

posting right now is my scummy-sounding alter, so any and all reads applied on the basis of these posts are void.

dyachei wrote: ↑Wed Feb 02, 2022 5:15 pm
112 wrote: ↑Wed Feb 02, 2022 4:04 pm uhh looking at the vote tallies i don't understand what dyachei is doing
if she didn't have a w!shot earlier i'd be sussing her hard
I'm tired. I've been playing the game and explaining my reads throughout but I've also been napping like every afternoon/evening because im fucking exhausted

i'm also a they not a she. I'd appreciate using the correct pronouns

I really wouldnt have shot marmot for cred as a wolf because my goal was to die n1

sorry, will remember the pronouns

also, only saw two of your votes when i wrote that so i take it back mostly. i thought you were just on me + wilgy, which was :woozy_face:

[VOTE: hallowkat sabie12 sig] aubergine

i will find my 4th vote later,,

LinearPoint wrote: ↑Wed Feb 02, 2022 4:30 pm Sabie is still the only one claiming a night vig though.
So for all intensive purposes Sabie is basically being not cced at all assuming Urist was killed by Mafia and not Town or 3p.

are we sure there's a night vig? why not sk or a mafia role?

i did not read the OP in spite on warnings btw.

Master Radishes wrote: ↑Wed Feb 02, 2022 4:07 pm 112, I stopped reading your posts halfway through D1. Why is everyone saying you're scummy?

I don't know, boss.

the only thing that makes me think sabie could be town is her AtE but i know she's as supreme at AtE as i am, so i am not moved.

uhh looking at the vote tallies i don't understand what dyachei is doing
if she didn't have a w!shot earlier i'd be sussing her hard

Justplayingitcool wrote: ↑Wed Feb 02, 2022 3:55 pm Don’t humour him

Kill him. No mercy.

not 100% sure whom this is referring to but i have an idea. will follow your instructions, voice in my head who's also in my computer.

YOU JUST KNOW specchat is saying things like: '112 has been right about everything all game, why is nobody listening to her?' and '112 is probably the towniest poster in the game if you actually bother to read her posts, this is worse than the seanzie chop.'

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