Put it in vote tagsLime Coke wrote: ↑Wed Aug 04, 2021 6:24 pmLime Coke wrote: ↑Wed Aug 04, 2021 6:18 pm THIS IS A GIANT SCUMCASE OF NANOOK
Spoiler: showNANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Fri Jul 30, 2021 11:46 am What are people doing on obvtown transcend, smh hes billboard townNANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Fri Jul 30, 2021 1:46 pmYou and transcend are billboard townalexa wrote: ↑Fri Jul 30, 2021 1:15 pmwhat reads do you have rnNANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Fri Jul 30, 2021 1:13 pmMeh most players are not that hard to readEnderWiggin wrote: ↑Fri Jul 30, 2021 1:02 pm Because I respect a lot of the players in here, and people I respect have respect for some of the other players.
Which suggests it's a strong field.
Ender is probably town
Someone else idr who but im sure its in my isoNANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Fri Jul 30, 2021 2:51 pmI'm good at readsalexa wrote: ↑Fri Jul 30, 2021 1:47 pmlol is it? i've never had that
why's transcend town?NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Fri Jul 30, 2021 1:46 pmYou and transcend are billboard townalexa wrote: ↑Fri Jul 30, 2021 1:15 pmwhat reads do you have rnNANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Fri Jul 30, 2021 1:13 pm
Meh most players are not that hard to read
Ender is probably town
Someone else idr who but im sure its in my iso
I'm good at readsWiml wrote: ↑Fri Jul 30, 2021 1:48 pmTalk me through Ender please.NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Fri Jul 30, 2021 1:46 pmYou and transcend are billboard townalexa wrote: ↑Fri Jul 30, 2021 1:15 pmwhat reads do you have rnNANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Fri Jul 30, 2021 1:13 pm
Meh most players are not that hard to read
Ender is probably town
Someone else idr who but im sure its in my iso
Billboard town is someone so obviously town its like there's a billboard with their face on it that says "this person is town"The main thing of note that Nanook does all of Day 1 is townread Transcend. He never actually speaks on why Transcend is town and denies requests to give reasoning, he just applied the townread and called him "Billboard town."
The way Nanook reads Transcend shows to me that he was reading him coming off a place of TMI. Because no one in their right mind would've townread Transcend.
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Thu Jul 29, 2021 9:36 pm [VOTE: ilario] aubergine
Im hard defending alexa, a decision i surely will not regretNANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Thu Jul 29, 2021 10:02 pmTwo mafia right here bingo bangoNanook Day 1 and the whole game goes after Ilario.NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Fri Jul 30, 2021 4:39 pmThe reason that ilario is scum in like twenty words is because they randed mafia this game. That's twenty exactly.
Starts off by hard defending Alexa from Ilario, then proceeds to call an interaction between Ilario and Mac "W/W," then he just flat out wolf reads Ilario. Again, refusing to explain why. Almost like he picked a few posts from Ilario and decided "I'm going to tunnel this and hope to skathe by."
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Fri Jul 30, 2021 4:44 pmI'm not SRing him for pushing me, im just pointing out that "he's opportunistic as mafia" isn't a reason to clear him fmpov given his push on meWiml wrote: ↑Fri Jul 30, 2021 4:42 pmWhy ilario specifically and not the other people pushing you?NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Fri Jul 30, 2021 4:37 pmI mean, fmpov pushing me IS a pretty opportunistic take, yeah?Wiml wrote: ↑Fri Jul 30, 2021 4:22 pmTbf it's a lot like alexa said. Like the best comparison is a player like Esooa who is a really capable wolf but half of her town games are just very different and she's easy to find in them?NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Fri Jul 30, 2021 4:15 pm I skimmed through the opening of ilario's scum game that you linked wiml and it doesn't seem like a dramatic difference to me? Maybe I'll read it in depth more later but yeah not seeing it atm
alexa in particular is a good enough illario reader that she was so (correctly) confident that a red peek on him was fake that she wanted to chop the (real) cop.
I think the one thing that is a tangible non-meta difference is how much he focuses on pushing agendas. One thing I recall noticing in a lot of illario's wolf games is that there's a lack of real depth to his ISOs and he mostly just pushes opportunistic takes. I talked about it earlier but he's a very A to B style wolf.
If he's still in doubt later then I'll go through his wolf games and try to actively towncase why he's town this game since it's a but difficult to do outside of meta. But I'm like 90% confident he is tbh.NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Fri Jul 30, 2021 5:11 pmHer pushing me specifically is most certainly not >rand town. Its >rand esooa and thats it.Wiml wrote: ↑Fri Jul 30, 2021 5:08 pmThe real read is that Esooa really doesn't like killing plwyers she sees as LHF as a wolf on D1 (as she wants easier miselims to endgame / doesn't bus excessively) so her actually pushing for this is >rand town lol.
She's completely self aware of this though so I'm not putting a huge amount of stock into it outside of a snappy comment.NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Fri Jul 30, 2021 7:54 pmTsp is capable of slanking as either alignmentWiml wrote: ↑Fri Jul 30, 2021 7:48 pmThanks. Most importantly: does TSP ever slank like this as a wolf in his normal wolf games? If no, do you think he'd be capable of taking a step back this game if he had a sufficiently strong partner? I talked about my thoughts on that earlier but I'm interested in hearing what you think with actual experience playing with him lol.NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Fri Jul 30, 2021 7:42 pmWith tsp? Yes, lots. It rarely helps.Wiml wrote: ↑Fri Jul 30, 2021 7:37 pmTbf I wouldn't be incredibly shocked if there was a wolf in those three names, particularly because I no longer have a reason to TR Alison as strongly and her attempt at a push on me felt like a stretch.NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Fri Jul 30, 2021 7:31 pm
Alison or lime
Maybe tsp, dependent on ilario's flip
TSP if illario is town? Do you have any familiarity with him and his meta?
Also seriously please explain why you think blade is town here lol. I'm usually not bad at reading him but I'm not seeing it here tbh.
I'm good at reading blade idk what to tell you. He has townie drive, is that something that'll convince you?
As for blade, not really tbh. Do you have any thoughts on him claiming that I haven't towntold yet but then sort of rolling that back and saying that I hadn't done anything town indicative yet instead? (After I called him out because I knew he had no real town tells on me and was pushing that in bad faith).
I do not, I found that exchange entirely meaningless.A couple of posts discrediting reasons to townread players, one of them indeed being Ilario to fit his scumread.NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Fri Jul 30, 2021 4:04 pmThis is not a good read lolWiml wrote: ↑Fri Jul 30, 2021 3:35 pmI'm not going to just clear Alison on this one thing forever but I know personally if I were town in Alison's situation and made a genuine slip then I think I would lie about it being NAI tbh (and I have in the past when being cleared for genuine townslips). I find them to be pretty dirty and getting cleared for them feels really demeaning lol. I think it comes from Alison as town the overwhelming majority of the time tbh.alexa wrote: ↑Fri Jul 30, 2021 3:24 pmi actually agree with it atm
i mean i don't think alison is town for that reason, she quite literally admitted she'd fake a derp, but i've found her villagery by play thus far
Using townreading Transcend as an excuse to vote Mac who has indeed flipped town by now.NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Sat Jul 31, 2021 5:28 pmNo im voting you cause I tr transcendMacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Jul 31, 2021 5:27 pmyes I am le town
didn't you vote me because you read my reads post and didn't like it?
A POE that consists of 2 dead villagers and me who is town.NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Fri Jul 30, 2021 7:14 pm I mean you could probably talk me into other options, im not confident at all on wiml
Mac, lime, Alison, all currently in my poe and I could be talked into voting
Again another POE of 4 names, 2 are dead town and the other 2 are myself and Wiml, and I'm pretty sure Wiml is town in this game.NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Sat Jul 31, 2021 4:26 amPick one out of mac wiml Alison limeTranscend wrote: ↑Sat Jul 31, 2021 4:25 amwho is another wolf besides ilarioNANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Sat Jul 31, 2021 4:25 amI don't really "make pushes" or "case people," I just say my reads and eventually people listen to them and/or I die
POE of Wiml, Ilario, myself, and TSP. We'll discuss this later.NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Sun Aug 01, 2021 6:59 pm I pretty much just want wiml and ilario dead today
Lime is also poe, tsp too, less interested in both
I will hammer anyone tho given the opportunity to
So the main people that Nanook has been pushing have been 2 people that have flipped town, a wishy-washy push on me where he keeps backing out in what seems like an excuse to vote Mac, Ilario and Wiml.
I feel like Nanook is happily doing nothing as scum. Refuses to case people, refuses to explain reads either town or scum. Pushing town players trying to bring them back into the POE.
Now let's ask who Nanook's partner is? Well he was mentioned earlier...
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Fri Jul 30, 2021 5:13 pm Shrug
Ok fine
When you guys are done killing me transcend and, idk, probably tsp, and you're looking around trying to figure out who could possibly be mafia, come back to my iso cause my legacy is gonna be good as hellSoft mentioning of TSP a few times to make him look like low hanging fruit.NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Fri Jul 30, 2021 5:23 pmIf ilario mafia tsp is a fifth lockNANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Fri Jul 30, 2021 5:22 pm Meh im only at 4 locks if I don't count myself
Trans ender alexa and esooa
So need two more
I'll find them later probably
If im wrong on trans mac becomes lock town
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Fri Jul 30, 2021 7:54 pmTsp is capable of slanking as either alignmentWiml wrote: ↑Fri Jul 30, 2021 7:48 pmThanks. Most importantly: does TSP ever slank like this as a wolf in his normal wolf games? If no, do you think he'd be capable of taking a step back this game if he had a sufficiently strong partner? I talked about my thoughts on that earlier but I'm interested in hearing what you think with actual experience playing with him lol.NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Fri Jul 30, 2021 7:42 pmWith tsp? Yes, lots. It rarely helps.Wiml wrote: ↑Fri Jul 30, 2021 7:37 pmTbf I wouldn't be incredibly shocked if there was a wolf in those three names, particularly because I no longer have a reason to TR Alison as strongly and her attempt at a push on me felt like a stretch.NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Fri Jul 30, 2021 7:31 pm
Alison or lime
Maybe tsp, dependent on ilario's flip
TSP if illario is town? Do you have any familiarity with him and his meta?
Also seriously please explain why you think blade is town here lol. I'm usually not bad at reading him but I'm not seeing it here tbh.
I'm good at reading blade idk what to tell you. He has townie drive, is that something that'll convince you?
As for blade, not really tbh. Do you have any thoughts on him claiming that I haven't towntold yet but then sort of rolling that back and saying that I hadn't done anything town indicative yet instead? (After I called him out because I knew he had no real town tells on me and was pushing that in bad faith).
I do not, I found that exchange entirely meaningless.Leaving reading TSP to others, if townread Nanook would probably point to them and say "See? Listen to this guy!"NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Fri Jul 30, 2021 8:05 pmMac might be able to meta read tsp, not sureWiml wrote: ↑Fri Jul 30, 2021 7:56 pmTSP can pretty easily be a wolf then tbh. When Mac was pushing TSP as having a meta tell early on was that sarcasm then? I took it at face value lol.NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Fri Jul 30, 2021 7:54 pmTsp is capable of slanking as either alignmentWiml wrote: ↑Fri Jul 30, 2021 7:48 pmThanks. Most importantly: does TSP ever slank like this as a wolf in his normal wolf games? If no, do you think he'd be capable of taking a step back this game if he had a sufficiently strong partner? I talked about my thoughts on that earlier but I'm interested in hearing what you think with actual experience playing with him lol.NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Fri Jul 30, 2021 7:42 pm
With tsp? Yes, lots. It rarely helps.
I'm good at reading blade idk what to tell you. He has townie drive, is that something that'll convince you?
As for blade, not really tbh. Do you have any thoughts on him claiming that I haven't towntold yet but then sort of rolling that back and saying that I hadn't done anything town indicative yet instead? (After I called him out because I knew he had no real town tells on me and was pushing that in bad faith).
I do not, I found that exchange entirely meaningless.
I can't reliably
Has TSP in his "non-immediate POE" aka the "Goldilocks area" as Hally would say.NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Sun Aug 01, 2021 6:59 pm I pretty much just want wiml and ilario dead today
Lime is also poe, tsp too, less interested in both
I will hammer anyone tho given the opportunity to
TSP is Nanook's partner.
The 2/2 solve is Nanook and TSP.???
Directions are in the op if you need them
