The Syndicate

Idk mac are you town

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Jul 31, 2021 5:25 pm This is the part where I go over. Go to DVC. Discover the wolf team is exactly Nanook and Alison and try to avoid watching the car crash that ensues as Alison claims high ground from not flipping Transcend. Transcend falls into absolute despair from my town flip and Nanook continues to be a jester.

I see deez tings.

God i wish

ilario wrote: ↑Sat Jul 31, 2021 5:23 pm

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Sat Jul 31, 2021 5:21 pm

ilario wrote: ↑Sat Jul 31, 2021 5:20 pm

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Sat Jul 31, 2021 5:17 pm I don't think its really fair to say someone with 45 posts isn't playing the game

45 is a fine number you guys just post ridiculous amounts

I’m not evaluating him on his post count, I’ve hard defended slots with <10 post counts

He’s 45 posts in and his reads haven’t progressed anywhere since he was 1 post in

You say that like its a bad thing

It is

No it isn't lol, not if they're good reads

Idk what tsp's are offhand but if they're good its fine

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Jul 31, 2021 5:23 pm I was about to tell Nanook to bite me about the postcounts but I checked the numbers and christ on a bike. These are Creature V.1 figures.

Yeah I'm not bitching for the sake of bitching lol, they're really very high

Alison wrote: ↑Sat Jul 31, 2021 5:22 pm If Transcend does not go over today you will all feel my wrath. I guarantee it. You better all switch back.

Oh no

Anyways

ilario wrote: ↑Sat Jul 31, 2021 5:20 pm

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Sat Jul 31, 2021 5:17 pm I don't think its really fair to say someone with 45 posts isn't playing the game

45 is a fine number you guys just post ridiculous amounts

I’m not evaluating him on his post count, I’ve hard defended slots with <10 post counts

He’s 45 posts in and his reads haven’t progressed anywhere since he was 1 post in

You say that like its a bad thing

I don't think its really fair to say someone with 45 posts isn't playing the game

45 is a fine number you guys just post ridiculous amounts

ilario wrote: ↑Sat Jul 31, 2021 5:10 pm Well I’m willing to swap off u onto tsp if u can get enough voters, I don’t even have any reason to believe he’s mafia but it’s probs better for the long run if he’s out

This is the quintessential tsp experience

Transcend wrote: ↑Sat Jul 31, 2021 4:28 pm

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Sat Jul 31, 2021 4:26 pm

Transcend wrote: ↑Sat Jul 31, 2021 4:24 pm

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Sat Jul 31, 2021 4:23 pm This is fine

It really is

No one will listen to the voices of truth so maybe they will tomorrow

It doesn't usually work out that way lol

Perhaps not

But it works out a bit better than busting my ass to save myself only to have the same song and dance happen d2

Yeah fair enough

Transcend wrote: ↑Sat Jul 31, 2021 4:24 pm

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Sat Jul 31, 2021 4:23 pm This is fine

It really is

No one will listen to the voices of truth so maybe they will tomorrow

It doesn't usually work out that way lol

Wiml wrote: ↑Sat Jul 31, 2021 4:24 pm

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Sat Jul 31, 2021 4:23 pm This is fine

Do you still think Transcend is town?

I've read nothing between when I left thread last night and now so...yeah

This is fine

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Jul 31, 2021 4:49 am

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Sat Jul 31, 2021 4:28 am Anyways basically everyone has me in their poe so I'm either a designated miskill for mafia or I'm being bussed, and you don't bus d1 of a mountainous game very often so you know what that means

I'm thread spewed town baby

same

Thats my clear, get your own

Everyone, remember that my newly adopted son transcend is billboard town

Not still asleep, asleep again

I'm going to bed, my kid is out of the house most of the day tomorrow so I will very likely be asleep for eod

ilario wrote: ↑Sat Jul 31, 2021 4:35 am

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Sat Jul 31, 2021 4:28 am Anyways basically everyone has me in their poe so I'm either a designated miskill for mafia or I'm being bussed, and you don't bus d1 of a mountainous game very often so you know what that means

I'm thread spewed town baby

lol, i dont hate this post tbh

Yeah I make a pretty compelling argument

If they do you may want to call Bill Murray

Ideally mannequins don't take steps

Transcend wrote: ↑Sat Jul 31, 2021 4:29 am i'm not asking for much, just a little bit more than

town if x is maf

or maf if x is town

that's lazy as shit

Thats how you solve games

Its also ridiculous that I have 114 posts and its the second lowest total in the game

Yall need to find some chill

Anyways basically everyone has me in their poe so I'm either a designated miskill for mafia or I'm being bussed, and you don't bus d1 of a mountainous game very often so you know what that means

I'm thread spewed town baby

Transcend wrote: ↑Sat Jul 31, 2021 4:25 am

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Sat Jul 31, 2021 4:25 am

Transcend wrote: ↑Sat Jul 31, 2021 4:21 am if u r town trying to vote out mafia why r u doing the bare minimum to explain ur read especially when it defies thread consensus

i don't understand ur approach but i don't sr it either

I don't really "make pushes" or "case people," I just say my reads and eventually people listen to them and/or I die

who is another wolf besides ilario

Pick one out of mac wiml Alison lime

Transcend wrote: ↑Sat Jul 31, 2021 4:21 am if u r town trying to vote out mafia why r u doing the bare minimum to explain ur read especially when it defies thread consensus

i don't understand ur approach but i don't sr it either

I don't really "make pushes" or "case people," I just say my reads and eventually people listen to them and/or I die

Transcend wrote: ↑Sat Jul 31, 2021 4:18 am ts is prob like

esooa
alison
wiml
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alexa
ilario
brad
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nanook
tony
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mac
ender

W O W ok rude this is very bad manners son

Boom nailed him

A scummy one

Wait for it

ilario wrote: ↑Sat Jul 31, 2021 4:05 am

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Sat Jul 31, 2021 4:04 am

ilario wrote: ↑Sat Jul 31, 2021 3:59 am

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Sat Jul 31, 2021 2:08 am

ilario wrote: ↑Sat Jul 31, 2021 1:36 am

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Fri Jul 30, 2021 7:52 pm

alexa wrote: ↑Fri Jul 30, 2021 7:45 pm Nanook, I had the instant urge to counter what you said because I don't remember you explaining your read on Matt besides volume cleared and because of my ADHD, but I forced myself to spot-check your ISO and I still don't see anything besides this -



Considering Matt doesn't have volume tells (self-admitted and confirmed by multiple people who know him) I don't see any other reasoning? I don't get why you're just outright ignoring that

I didn't explain it at the time, no. So what? Do you think me saying now "yeah I think trans had a really strong opening" would matter to anyone? Unlikely, given that presumably the people voting him have read his opening and are voting him anyways, yeah? So I presented the part of the read i thought might be more compelling instead. Which hasn't worked, but it at least had a chance to.


Correct, I am ignoring it. Because it isn't a pure volume tell--if you guys say he can make 300 or 400 something posts as mafia, then ok sure maybe he can. Its a volume of townie posts, as I've said previously--he has a significant number of posts i think are kind of townie to pretty townie, so based on that collectively I think he's town. It isn't about one specific post, it isn't about just looking at a post count number, its about a critical mass of posts that I read and think "yeah thats townie" to the point that I just townread him.

He looks to me like he's trying to work with people and getting increasingly annoyed when those people are scumreading him. It seems to me that he's more frustrated at not being able to work with people than at being scumread. I think that's townie.

thats an interesting point because i feel like ive had a very similar reaction, did you get an otherwise impression on me to state that isnt the case?

I don't understand at all what you're asking me, rephrase it maybe?

it feeels like u tr'd transcend for something that i also did, so i was just asking where you got the impression that i havent been trying to work with people/have not been frustrated for the same thing transcend was frustrated at.

I got that impression from him. I didn't get it from you. Either because you're mafia or because I'm not picking up your tone properly. Dunno which. Its not a reason to SR you, but yeah, im not getting that same vibe from you so it doesn't factor into my read.

what kinda vibe do i give you?

Heh

ilario wrote: ↑Sat Jul 31, 2021 3:59 am

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Sat Jul 31, 2021 2:08 am

ilario wrote: ↑Sat Jul 31, 2021 1:36 am

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Fri Jul 30, 2021 7:52 pm

alexa wrote: ↑Fri Jul 30, 2021 7:45 pm Nanook, I had the instant urge to counter what you said because I don't remember you explaining your read on Matt besides volume cleared and because of my ADHD, but I forced myself to spot-check your ISO and I still don't see anything besides this -

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Fri Jul 30, 2021 4:11 pm

alexa wrote: ↑Fri Jul 30, 2021 4:09 pm

having a huge number of posts is completely NAI for him

and which one's of them are incredibly towny?

Idk that any of them are incredibly towny on their own, but there's a bunch that are somewhere between townie and kinda townie, and collectively that's enough for me to call him town

Considering Matt doesn't have volume tells (self-admitted and confirmed by multiple people who know him) I don't see any other reasoning? I don't get why you're just outright ignoring that

I didn't explain it at the time, no. So what? Do you think me saying now "yeah I think trans had a really strong opening" would matter to anyone? Unlikely, given that presumably the people voting him have read his opening and are voting him anyways, yeah? So I presented the part of the read i thought might be more compelling instead. Which hasn't worked, but it at least had a chance to.


Correct, I am ignoring it. Because it isn't a pure volume tell--if you guys say he can make 300 or 400 something posts as mafia, then ok sure maybe he can. Its a volume of townie posts, as I've said previously--he has a significant number of posts i think are kind of townie to pretty townie, so based on that collectively I think he's town. It isn't about one specific post, it isn't about just looking at a post count number, its about a critical mass of posts that I read and think "yeah thats townie" to the point that I just townread him.

He looks to me like he's trying to work with people and getting increasingly annoyed when those people are scumreading him. It seems to me that he's more frustrated at not being able to work with people than at being scumread. I think that's townie.

thats an interesting point because i feel like ive had a very similar reaction, did you get an otherwise impression on me to state that isnt the case?

I don't understand at all what you're asking me, rephrase it maybe?

it feeels like u tr'd transcend for something that i also did, so i was just asking where you got the impression that i havent been trying to work with people/have not been frustrated for the same thing transcend was frustrated at.

I got that impression from him. I didn't get it from you. Either because you're mafia or because I'm not picking up your tone properly. Dunno which. Its not a reason to SR you, but yeah, im not getting that same vibe from you so it doesn't factor into my read.

Transcend wrote: ↑Sat Jul 31, 2021 2:12 am

Wiml wrote: ↑Fri Jul 30, 2021 3:44 pm

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Fri Jul 30, 2021 3:43 pm I take back dozens but like more than twice

Would you mind linking them? (Or briefly describing)

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Fri Jul 30, 2021 3:44 pmNo

lmfao this dude is town af

This is super within tsp's range

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Jul 31, 2021 2:10 am Being a baby is >rand town.

Being a baby is >rand Joseph

Transcend wrote: ↑Sat Jul 31, 2021 2:04 am

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Fri Jul 30, 2021 12:45 pm

Wiml wrote: ↑Fri Jul 30, 2021 12:44 pm

EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Fri Jul 30, 2021 12:39 pm

Wiml wrote: ↑Fri Jul 30, 2021 12:35 pm

EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Fri Jul 30, 2021 12:19 pm

Wiml wrote: ↑Fri Jul 30, 2021 12:15 pm I'm 100% sure Ender's comment about me not towntelling is a lie btw.

There is no towntell you have made so far that I am not sure you could replicate as mafia.

That being said I'm not a super good meta-reader so who knows. I might be in whiplash from the Scythe sweep.

But to call it a lie is a little disingenuous. Almost seems agenda-y

I thought you'd realised lol but I knew the secret town tell you had on me was a read formation / effort tell and that's why I abused it so hard in Scythe lol.

You abused the secret meta-read but it wasn't read formation/effort.

Which makes it funnier that you turned it against me without properly working out what it was I was trying to read you on.

(Your town games, or some of them, had a level of "Reads confusion" where your scum games had a level of surety to the reads. Obviously not as ironclad of a read as I thought it was lmao.)

Oh that makes more sense as well lol (even though it's not actually a tell for me tbh). I'd gathered for sure it was to do with reads and the rest I assumed based on the conversations we had in the 2+2 game.

If that's your actual towntell read on me this game then I think that makes more sense lol. But alexa and illario (who was bunnyhunter in Anni) are both easy town reads tbh.

Speaking of illario, if anybody has any doubts about me being able to read him I was so confident on him being town in anni that I called out a fake red peek on him.

Idk sounds like beginners luck cause I'm p sure he's mafia

this is some pretty strong conviction when initially u were just sheeping alexa...

Idr sheeping her

I made a joke about defend voting her but

Thats not the same thing

ilario wrote: ↑Sat Jul 31, 2021 1:36 am

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Fri Jul 30, 2021 7:52 pm

alexa wrote: ↑Fri Jul 30, 2021 7:45 pm Nanook, I had the instant urge to counter what you said because I don't remember you explaining your read on Matt besides volume cleared and because of my ADHD, but I forced myself to spot-check your ISO and I still don't see anything besides this -

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Fri Jul 30, 2021 4:11 pm

alexa wrote: ↑Fri Jul 30, 2021 4:09 pm

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Fri Jul 30, 2021 4:08 pm

alexa wrote: ↑Fri Jul 30, 2021 4:06 pm

you don't need to case someone to explain a read

What is there to explain, he has a huge number of posts and enough of them are townie that he's probably just town

Its not a complicated read and tbh idk how it isn't the prevailing thought

having a huge number of posts is completely NAI for him

and which one's of them are incredibly towny?

Idk that any of them are incredibly towny on their own, but there's a bunch that are somewhere between townie and kinda townie, and collectively that's enough for me to call him town

Considering Matt doesn't have volume tells (self-admitted and confirmed by multiple people who know him) I don't see any other reasoning? I don't get why you're just outright ignoring that

I didn't explain it at the time, no. So what? Do you think me saying now "yeah I think trans had a really strong opening" would matter to anyone? Unlikely, given that presumably the people voting him have read his opening and are voting him anyways, yeah? So I presented the part of the read i thought might be more compelling instead. Which hasn't worked, but it at least had a chance to.


Correct, I am ignoring it. Because it isn't a pure volume tell--if you guys say he can make 300 or 400 something posts as mafia, then ok sure maybe he can. Its a volume of townie posts, as I've said previously--he has a significant number of posts i think are kind of townie to pretty townie, so based on that collectively I think he's town. It isn't about one specific post, it isn't about just looking at a post count number, its about a critical mass of posts that I read and think "yeah thats townie" to the point that I just townread him.

He looks to me like he's trying to work with people and getting increasingly annoyed when those people are scumreading him. It seems to me that he's more frustrated at not being able to work with people than at being scumread. I think that's townie.

thats an interesting point because i feel like ive had a very similar reaction, did you get an otherwise impression on me to state that isnt the case?

I don't understand at all what you're asking me, rephrase it maybe?

alexa wrote: ↑Fri Jul 30, 2021 8:44 pm

Alison wrote: ↑Fri Jul 30, 2021 8:39 pm

EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Fri Jul 30, 2021 8:37 pm

Alison wrote: ↑Fri Jul 30, 2021 8:19 pm Mac is honestly playing incredibly scummy. His reads are pure nonsense and he's just producing as many of them as possible until people get off his back. He is not solving the game or approaching it from a townie point of view and he's not fishing for hard-to-replicate tells the way he does as town. It's actually ridiculous.

Are we allowed to vote him yet?

I have argued before that it is best to give certain players a day pass because it is simply too disastrous for the game if they are town. You can keep them in your POE and hunt for your partners while giving them the chance to clear themselves by producing pelts (and of course, if they are wolves and produce pelts, you should encourage them to out all their teammates for you). I would say Mac is one of those players.

maybe it's my own ego but i have always been kind of "mrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr" on this philosophy
mostly because i trust myself to solve the game more than i trust players who are useful if not mischopped

there's been times i've mischopped a player terribly d1 but we still won as town and got a lot of useful info from it

there's never been a time i've been like "oh no if we didn't ML X day one we would've won"

i've only been playing FM for a year though

This is the correct approach

Which yes I'm aware isn't actually rand, but I forgot there were 11 and not 9 at the time

Alison wrote: ↑Fri Jul 30, 2021 9:12 pm

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Fri Jul 30, 2021 12:06 pm Thats a good derp clear it makes her three quarters clear

Suspicious Nanook post.

I believe he has been fairly adamant about not clearing me for stupid shit multiple times in the past.

Three quarters clear is 75% town

In other words, rand

Unless it's the creepy kind

EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Fri Jul 30, 2021 8:37 pm

Lime Coke wrote: ↑Fri Jul 30, 2021 8:19 pm Always know, that wherever you are, Ender will be there.

Oh god. LC stop making me sound like a stalker

Theres no shame in being a stalker

Wiml wrote: ↑Fri Jul 30, 2021 7:56 pm

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Fri Jul 30, 2021 7:54 pm

Wiml wrote: ↑Fri Jul 30, 2021 7:48 pm

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Fri Jul 30, 2021 7:42 pm

Wiml wrote: ↑Fri Jul 30, 2021 7:37 pm

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Fri Jul 30, 2021 7:31 pm

Wiml wrote: ↑Fri Jul 30, 2021 7:26 pm

For the sake of discussion let's just say that I'm lock clearing everyone who isn't in my active PoE.

So alexa, Esooa, LC, Alison, TSP.

Where are the wolves in that list?

Alison or lime

Maybe tsp, dependent on ilario's flip

Tbf I wouldn't be incredibly shocked if there was a wolf in those three names, particularly because I no longer have a reason to TR Alison as strongly and her attempt at a push on me felt like a stretch.

TSP if illario is town? Do you have any familiarity with him and his meta?

Also seriously please explain why you think blade is town here lol. I'm usually not bad at reading him but I'm not seeing it here tbh.

With tsp? Yes, lots. It rarely helps.

I'm good at reading blade idk what to tell you. He has townie drive, is that something that'll convince you?

Thanks. Most importantly: does TSP ever slank like this as a wolf in his normal wolf games? If no, do you think he'd be capable of taking a step back this game if he had a sufficiently strong partner? I talked about my thoughts on that earlier but I'm interested in hearing what you think with actual experience playing with him lol.

As for blade, not really tbh. Do you have any thoughts on him claiming that I haven't towntold yet but then sort of rolling that back and saying that I hadn't done anything town indicative yet instead? (After I called him out because I knew he had no real town tells on me and was pushing that in bad faith).

Tsp is capable of slanking as either alignment


I do not, I found that exchange entirely meaningless.

TSP can pretty easily be a wolf then tbh. When Mac was pushing TSP as having a meta tell early on was that sarcasm then? I took it at face value lol.

Mac might be able to meta read tsp, not sure

I can't reliably

Wiml wrote: ↑Fri Jul 30, 2021 7:48 pm

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Fri Jul 30, 2021 7:42 pm

Wiml wrote: ↑Fri Jul 30, 2021 7:37 pm

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Fri Jul 30, 2021 7:31 pm

Wiml wrote: ↑Fri Jul 30, 2021 7:26 pm

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Fri Jul 30, 2021 7:22 pm

Wiml wrote: ↑Fri Jul 30, 2021 7:19 pm

Let's pretend illario is an IC. Who am I misclearing here?

Remind me who you're clearing

For the sake of discussion let's just say that I'm lock clearing everyone who isn't in my active PoE.

So alexa, Esooa, LC, Alison, TSP.

Where are the wolves in that list?

Alison or lime

Maybe tsp, dependent on ilario's flip

Tbf I wouldn't be incredibly shocked if there was a wolf in those three names, particularly because I no longer have a reason to TR Alison as strongly and her attempt at a push on me felt like a stretch.

TSP if illario is town? Do you have any familiarity with him and his meta?

Also seriously please explain why you think blade is town here lol. I'm usually not bad at reading him but I'm not seeing it here tbh.

With tsp? Yes, lots. It rarely helps.

I'm good at reading blade idk what to tell you. He has townie drive, is that something that'll convince you?

Thanks. Most importantly: does TSP ever slank like this as a wolf in his normal wolf games? If no, do you think he'd be capable of taking a step back this game if he had a sufficiently strong partner? I talked about my thoughts on that earlier but I'm interested in hearing what you think with actual experience playing with him lol.

As for blade, not really tbh. Do you have any thoughts on him claiming that I haven't towntold yet but then sort of rolling that back and saying that I hadn't done anything town indicative yet instead? (After I called him out because I knew he had no real town tells on me and was pushing that in bad faith).

Tsp is capable of slanking as either alignment


I do not, I found that exchange entirely meaningless.

alexa wrote: ↑Fri Jul 30, 2021 7:45 pm Nanook, I had the instant urge to counter what you said because I don't remember you explaining your read on Matt besides volume cleared and because of my ADHD, but I forced myself to spot-check your ISO and I still don't see anything besides this -

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Fri Jul 30, 2021 4:11 pm

alexa wrote: ↑Fri Jul 30, 2021 4:09 pm

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Fri Jul 30, 2021 4:08 pm

alexa wrote: ↑Fri Jul 30, 2021 4:06 pm

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Fri Jul 30, 2021 4:06 pm

alexa wrote: ↑Fri Jul 30, 2021 4:05 pm -refuses to explain read on Transcend
-wolfreads ilario

content bad nanook

I don't really do cases

you don't need to case someone to explain a read

What is there to explain, he has a huge number of posts and enough of them are townie that he's probably just town

Its not a complicated read and tbh idk how it isn't the prevailing thought

having a huge number of posts is completely NAI for him

and which one's of them are incredibly towny?

Idk that any of them are incredibly towny on their own, but there's a bunch that are somewhere between townie and kinda townie, and collectively that's enough for me to call him town

Considering Matt doesn't have volume tells (self-admitted and confirmed by multiple people who know him) I don't see any other reasoning? I don't get why you're just outright ignoring that

I didn't explain it at the time, no. So what? Do you think me saying now "yeah I think trans had a really strong opening" would matter to anyone? Unlikely, given that presumably the people voting him have read his opening and are voting him anyways, yeah? So I presented the part of the read i thought might be more compelling instead. Which hasn't worked, but it at least had a chance to.


Correct, I am ignoring it. Because it isn't a pure volume tell--if you guys say he can make 300 or 400 something posts as mafia, then ok sure maybe he can. Its a volume of townie posts, as I've said previously--he has a significant number of posts i think are kind of townie to pretty townie, so based on that collectively I think he's town. It isn't about one specific post, it isn't about just looking at a post count number, its about a critical mass of posts that I read and think "yeah thats townie" to the point that I just townread him.

He looks to me like he's trying to work with people and getting increasingly annoyed when those people are scumreading him. It seems to me that he's more frustrated at not being able to work with people than at being scumread. I think that's townie.

Wiml wrote: ↑Fri Jul 30, 2021 7:37 pm

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Fri Jul 30, 2021 7:31 pm

Wiml wrote: ↑Fri Jul 30, 2021 7:26 pm

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Fri Jul 30, 2021 7:22 pm

Wiml wrote: ↑Fri Jul 30, 2021 7:19 pm

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Fri Jul 30, 2021 7:18 pm Meh i think you're shielding one too, so

Guess we'll find out

Let's pretend illario is an IC. Who am I misclearing here?

Remind me who you're clearing

For the sake of discussion let's just say that I'm lock clearing everyone who isn't in my active PoE.

So alexa, Esooa, LC, Alison, TSP.

Where are the wolves in that list?

Alison or lime

Maybe tsp, dependent on ilario's flip

Tbf I wouldn't be incredibly shocked if there was a wolf in those three names, particularly because I no longer have a reason to TR Alison as strongly and her attempt at a push on me felt like a stretch.

TSP if illario is town? Do you have any familiarity with him and his meta?

Also seriously please explain why you think blade is town here lol. I'm usually not bad at reading him but I'm not seeing it here tbh.

With tsp? Yes, lots. It rarely helps.

I'm good at reading blade idk what to tell you. He has townie drive, is that something that'll convince you?

alexa wrote: ↑Fri Jul 30, 2021 7:37 pm

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Thu Jul 29, 2021 6:43 pm Hard townread Transcend

also this was your first read in the game, which you've never wavered on

then for part of your reasoning you put "volume cleared" and refused to site a post

i'm kind of mrrrring at that hard

Yeah he opened strong, I thought it was a townie opening

I've since reevaluated the read and came to the same conclusion, that he's town, I just presented what I believed to be the more compelling reason for other people--obviously not everyone saw/sees his opening as being as townie as i do or he wouldn't have votes, so I presented another part of my read instead

A quick search for lime in my iso and I don't see it, so

I'm reasonably sure I didn't say that lol, maybe it was ender or Alison

Lime Coke wrote: ↑Fri Jul 30, 2021 7:35 pm

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Fri Jul 30, 2021 7:34 pm

Lime Coke wrote: ↑Fri Jul 30, 2021 7:33 pm

alexa wrote: ↑Fri Jul 30, 2021 7:32 pm NANOOK didn't you say you felt lime was villaging after wolfing with him?

Exactlyyyyyy

I have zero memory of saying this

I swear you did.

It doesn't sound like me and I don't remember it

Its not impossible ig but if I did it was bad and idk what I was thinking lol

Lime Coke wrote: ↑Fri Jul 30, 2021 7:33 pm

alexa wrote: ↑Fri Jul 30, 2021 7:32 pm NANOOK didn't you say you felt lime was villaging after wolfing with him?

Exactlyyyyyy

I have zero memory of saying this

alexa wrote: ↑Fri Jul 30, 2021 7:33 pm Is your only reason for TRing TSP that he's not w/w with ilario?

Pretty much yeah

alexa wrote: ↑Fri Jul 30, 2021 7:32 pm NANOOK didn't you say you felt lime was villaging after wolfing with him?

I don't think so, maybe that was ender or Alison

I don't have a lime read atp