Buckets: War of the GOATs [END]

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

Meh i think you're shielding one too, so

Guess we'll find out

[alexa]

@Lime Coke just found the game where you/Alison were W/W
how do you feel she compares to here/what's your read on her?

[Wiml]

Meh i think you're shielding one too, so

Guess we'll find out

Let's pretend illario is an IC. Who am I misclearing here?

[alexa]

https://www.mafiathesyndicate.com/viewt ... 273&t=2167 also who else was scum here..? i'm having trouble figuring it out based on thread summary

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

Meh i think you're shielding one too, so

Guess we'll find out

Let's pretend illario is an IC. Who am I misclearing here?

Remind me who you're clearing

[Wiml]

lol ill take your word for it

talk me through your reads on everyone else atm

I think Alexa is townie. EnderWiggin is null which might actually be concerning because he usually makes a big splash when he is town. I have been on board with Esooa and Nanook's reads of Mac and I don't think he's a target they would try to either misexe or bus if they were scum which means they are most likely town. LC as explained is self resolving. I think Transcend is slightly scummy because I don't understand any of his reads, but he seems committed to towncoring me which means he will dig himself into a whole if he is scum attempting a pocket.

ok this kinda sucks

but may still be town

This feels like an anchored read tbh.

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

https://www.mafiathesyndicate.com/viewt ... 273&t=2167 also who else was scum here..? i'm having trouble figuring it out based on thread summary

Me, Alison, lime, osie/martin, ender

[Lime Coke]

READLIIIIIIST:


Town:
Alexa
Esooa
Ender
Alison
Illario
Wiml
Mac
Nanook
TSP
Transcend
Maf:

The bottom 3 are more POE.

[alexa]

READLIIIIIIST:


Town:
Alexa
Esooa
Ender
Alison
Illario
Wiml
Mac
Nanook
TSP
Transcend
Maf:

The bottom 3 are more POE.

wait what changed on TSP/Nanook?

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

Meh i think you're shielding one too, so

Guess we'll find out

Let's pretend illario is an IC. Who am I misclearing here?

Remind me who you're clearing

Also "let's pretend the person im most likely misclearing is town then who am I misclearing" is kind of a silly question lol

[alexa]

oh nvm you had ender/nanook town not tsp

[Wiml]

Meh i think you're shielding one too, so

Guess we'll find out

Let's pretend illario is an IC. Who am I misclearing here?

Remind me who you're clearing

For the sake of discussion let's just say that I'm lock clearing everyone who isn't in my active PoE.

So alexa, Esooa, LC, Alison, TSP.

Where are the wolves in that list?

[Wiml]

Meh i think you're shielding one too, so

Guess we'll find out

Let's pretend illario is an IC. Who am I misclearing here?

Remind me who you're clearing

Also "let's pretend the person im most likely misclearing is town then who am I misclearing" is kind of a silly question lol

I'm confident I'm not misclearing him and want an answer I can actually discuss my read on lol.

[Lime Coke]

@Lime Coke just found the game where you/Alison were W/W
how do you feel she compares to here/what's your read on her?

I don't think she tunneled someone instantly in that game Day 1? Like she had that fire on Illario to start this game. Last game she like, spread her reads apart, including a scumread on me, and was showing a more broader look to the game.

Truth be told, and I said this in the dead chat, I mixed myself up and I thought Michelle was my partner and Alison was town. So when Alison started going after me, and another mafia member, I was scared shitless and said to the maf chat that we needed to N1 Alison and turns out she was in the chat with us. So we N1'd Michelle instead.

But yeah here I have her as town but for that day start stuff with Illario. Plus I feel like her surrendering the Illario read to you is towny of her because I feel like if she was maf she'd continue pushing.

[alexa]

ilario literally got up and posted in the thread at 6AM his time just to drag nanook for fosing him he's always a villager

[Wiml]

There's a small chance I'm wrong on ilario, I've been burned by meta before and I wouldn't like blindly sheep me if I die today and he's alive in F3, but I really think he's just town here.

[Lime Coke]

oh nvm you had ender/nanook town not tsp

READLIIIIIIST:


Town:
Alexa
Esooa
Ender
Alison
Illario
Wiml
Mac
Nanook
TSP
Transcend
Maf:

The bottom 3 are more POE.

wait what changed on TSP/Nanook?

Like I said I noticed the Nanook defense of you early but I can't remember reading him otherwise. Others that are above him I've been reading and been thinking "Okay, they feel pretty towny to me currently."

[alexa]

@Lime Coke just found the game where you/Alison were W/W
how do you feel she compares to here/what's your read on her?

I don't think she tunneled someone instantly in that game Day 1? Like she had that fire on Illario to start this game. Last game she like, spread her reads apart, including a scumread on me, and was showing a more broader look to the game.

Truth be told, and I said this in the dead chat, I mixed myself up and I thought Michelle was my partner and Alison was town. So when Alison started going after me, and another mafia member, I was scared shitless and said to the maf chat that we needed to N1 Alison and turns out she was in the chat with us. So we N1'd Michelle instead.

But yeah here I have her as town but for that day start stuff with Illario. Plus I feel like her surrendering the Illario read to you is towny of her because I feel like if she was maf she'd continue pushing.

i think alison pushing on someone instantly is NAI for her. i've seen her do it as both alignments
i agree her surrendering the ilario read to me was towny though

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

Meh i think you're shielding one too, so

Guess we'll find out

Let's pretend illario is an IC. Who am I misclearing here?

Remind me who you're clearing

For the sake of discussion let's just say that I'm lock clearing everyone who isn't in my active PoE.

So alexa, Esooa, LC, Alison, TSP.

Where are the wolves in that list?

Alison or lime

Maybe tsp, dependent on ilario's flip

[alexa]

There's a small chance I'm wrong on ilario, I've been burned by meta before and I wouldn't like blindly sheep me if I die today and he's alive in F3, but I really think he's just town here.

if he's town he will just keep making himself more and more obvious town so shrugz

[alexa]

NANOOK didn't you say you felt lime was villaging after wolfing with him?

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

NANOOK didn't you say you felt lime was villaging after wolfing with him?

I don't think so, maybe that was ender or Alison

I don't have a lime read atp

[alexa]

also your comment on TSP just makes me tinfoil TSP more because ilario is my most confident TR

why do you feel like TSP's flip is dependent on ilario's? is your only reason for TRing TSP that he's not w/w with ilario?

[Lime Coke]

NANOOK didn't you say you felt lime was villaging after wolfing with him?

Exactlyyyyyy

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

Is your only reason for TRing TSP that he's not w/w with ilario?

Pretty much yeah

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

NANOOK didn't you say you felt lime was villaging after wolfing with him?

Exactlyyyyyy

I have zero memory of saying this

[Lime Coke]

NANOOK didn't you say you felt lime was villaging after wolfing with him?

Exactlyyyyyy

I have zero memory of saying this

I swear you did.

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

NANOOK didn't you say you felt lime was villaging after wolfing with him?

Exactlyyyyyy

I have zero memory of saying this

I swear you did.

It doesn't sound like me and I don't remember it

Its not impossible ig but if I did it was bad and idk what I was thinking lol

[alexa]

it may have been ender who said it

[alexa]

Hard townread Transcend

also this was your first read in the game, which you've never wavered on

then for part of your reasoning you put "volume cleared" and refused to site a post

i'm kind of mrrrring at that hard

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

A quick search for lime in my iso and I don't see it, so

I'm reasonably sure I didn't say that lol, maybe it was ender or Alison

[Wiml]

Meh i think you're shielding one too, so

Guess we'll find out

Let's pretend illario is an IC. Who am I misclearing here?

Remind me who you're clearing

For the sake of discussion let's just say that I'm lock clearing everyone who isn't in my active PoE.

So alexa, Esooa, LC, Alison, TSP.

Where are the wolves in that list?

Alison or lime

Maybe tsp, dependent on ilario's flip

Tbf I wouldn't be incredibly shocked if there was a wolf in those three names, particularly because I no longer have a reason to TR Alison as strongly and her attempt at a push on me felt like a stretch.

TSP if illario is town? Do you have any familiarity with him and his meta?

Also seriously please explain why you think blade is town here lol. I'm usually not bad at reading him but I'm not seeing it here tbh.

[Lime Coke]

it may have been ender who said it

Ohhh you might be right.

[alexa]

Wiml just feels like solid town to me

[Wiml]

There's a small chance I'm wrong on ilario, I've been burned by meta before and I wouldn't like blindly sheep me if I die today and he's alive in F3, but I really think he's just town here.

if he's town he will just keep making himself more and more obvious town so shrugz

True but I also don't want to be blamed if he wins in F3 because of some D1 read I made on him lol.

[Lime Coke]

A quick search for lime in my iso and I don't see it, so

I'm reasonably sure I didn't say that lol, maybe it was ender or Alison

It was Ender that was my bad.

[Lime Coke]

Wiml just feels like solid town to me

Same.

[alexa]

VVV: ilario, Wiml
VV: Lime Coke, Esooa
V: Alison

POE -
[Mac, Transcend, NANOOK, Ender, TSP]

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

Hard townread Transcend

also this was your first read in the game, which you've never wavered on

then for part of your reasoning you put "volume cleared" and refused to site a post

i'm kind of mrrrring at that hard

Yeah he opened strong, I thought it was a townie opening

I've since reevaluated the read and came to the same conclusion, that he's town, I just presented what I believed to be the more compelling reason for other people--obviously not everyone saw/sees his opening as being as townie as i do or he wouldn't have votes, so I presented another part of my read instead

[Esooa]

@Lime Coke just found the game where you/Alison were W/W
how do you feel she compares to here/what's your read on her?

Truth be told, and I said this in the dead chat, I mixed myself up and I thought Michelle was my partner and Alison was town. So when Alison started going after me, and another mafia member, I was scared shitless and said to the maf chat that we needed to N1 Alison and turns out she was in the chat with us. So we N1'd Michelle instead.

omg lol

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

Meh i think you're shielding one too, so

Guess we'll find out

Let's pretend illario is an IC. Who am I misclearing here?

Remind me who you're clearing

For the sake of discussion let's just say that I'm lock clearing everyone who isn't in my active PoE.

So alexa, Esooa, LC, Alison, TSP.

Where are the wolves in that list?

Alison or lime

Maybe tsp, dependent on ilario's flip

Tbf I wouldn't be incredibly shocked if there was a wolf in those three names, particularly because I no longer have a reason to TR Alison as strongly and her attempt at a push on me felt like a stretch.

TSP if illario is town? Do you have any familiarity with him and his meta?

Also seriously please explain why you think blade is town here lol. I'm usually not bad at reading him but I'm not seeing it here tbh.

With tsp? Yes, lots. It rarely helps.

I'm good at reading blade idk what to tell you. He has townie drive, is that something that'll convince you?

[Wiml]

VVV: ilario, Wiml
VV: Lime Coke, Esooa
V: Alison

POE -
[Mac, Transcend, NANOOK, Ender, TSP]

Honestly I pretty much agree with all of this.

My main difference is TSP in single V mostly for the self meta stuff.

[Lime Coke]

@Lime Coke just found the game where you/Alison were W/W
how do you feel she compares to here/what's your read on her?

Truth be told, and I said this in the dead chat, I mixed myself up and I thought Michelle was my partner and Alison was town. So when Alison started going after me, and another mafia member, I was scared shitless and said to the maf chat that we needed to N1 Alison and turns out she was in the chat with us. So we N1'd Michelle instead.

omg lol

I need to rand wolf with you eventually so I can see how to properly powerwolf and not be scared in the first 24 hours of the game.

[alexa]

Nanook, I had the instant urge to counter what you said because I don't remember you explaining your read on Matt besides volume cleared and because of my ADHD, but I forced myself to spot-check your ISO and I still don't see anything besides this -

-refuses to explain read on Transcend
-wolfreads ilario

content bad nanook

I don't really do cases

you don't need to case someone to explain a read

What is there to explain, he has a huge number of posts and enough of them are townie that he's probably just town

Its not a complicated read and tbh idk how it isn't the prevailing thought

having a huge number of posts is completely NAI for him

and which one's of them are incredibly towny?

Idk that any of them are incredibly towny on their own, but there's a bunch that are somewhere between townie and kinda townie, and collectively that's enough for me to call him town

Considering Matt doesn't have volume tells (self-admitted and confirmed by multiple people who know him) I don't see any other reasoning? I don't get why you're just outright ignoring that

[MacDougall]

I am doing such a gross poo

[Esooa]

I think Transcend is more likely town than not atm

[alexa]

I think Transcend is more likely town than not atm

why

[Alison]

This is a lot of posts to catch up on.

[Alison]

I will do so at my leisure.

[Lime Coke]

I think Transcend is more likely town than not atm

Are you sure about that?