The Syndicate

Tbh I kinda forgot jack was a godfather

Thanks for the game guys <3

Rej, bargain Jay, and jack, you were a great scum team, would happily scum with you all again.

I feel like I shouldn’t have to, but let’s break it down, from everyone else’s POV:

If there’s one scum that isn’t GF: 1/2 chance it’s name or sig. kill order doesn’t matter (but is insulting if you don’t think I’m scum)

If there’s two scum and no GF: would have to be me and sig (for obvious reasons I’m not considering this world lol)

One scum that is a GF: killing between me/sig is still correct, evaluate in f3 if sig doesn’t flip scum

Two scum, one that isn’t a GF: confirmed one between me/sig, we have to kill correctly today


This is based on two assumptions: LC as a cop is self aware enough not to put “lock town reads” into the thread during the night. And that there isn’t two godfathers. Either one and frankly I’m going to be pissed.

So yeah, FMPOV it’s always correct to kill sig, and see if the game continues. If there’s one scum it’s likely him (we’ll call it 50/50 for arguments sake). If there’s two scum sig is confirmed scum FMPOV.

So yeah, in conclusion, killing sig is always correct FMPOV, and killing between me/sig is always correct for everyone else.

I think it’s frankly insulting that anyone could think I’m scummier than sig tbh. Being weird doesn’t make you town it makes you flailing.

We have a clear POE based off a flipped cop, I don’t understand anyone that’s town and trying to argue against that tbh.

Look at scum trying to push in the cop innos, how townie of them!

Sig you’re getting killed cause youre one of two people alive that LC likely didn’t have a check on.

Kinda surprised there aren’t 4 scum, tbh.

Maybe a 3p hiding somewhere but not gonna worry about that until after scumSig is dead lol

Ok so I’m gonna assume innos on DDL Jack and TH then, based on night posting. Which means it’s just sig.

Good deal

[VOTE: Sig] aubergine

Hm I may be an idiot that thought chuck was the cop

Apparently I am the one who can’t read

I'm gonna go ahead and assume innos on Jack/me/DDL based off this post viewtopic.php?f=2&t=1823&p=576935#p576935

Any arguments?

Maybe turnip for the following post but I can't tell if that was a read or a check.

I can't tell if he had a red on sig or if he just didn't like him, lol. Think it's fairly clear he didn't have a red if it wasn't on sig.

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Mon Dec 23, 2019 8:15 pm

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Mon Dec 23, 2019 5:26 pm @Long Con

Let’s say there’s no kill, 2 wolves and we lynch Sig and he’s a wolf.

Who is the second wolf?

Same question to @nanookthegreatandfearsome

I dont answer these questions

Long Con wrote: ↑Mon Dec 23, 2019 5:31 pm

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Mon Dec 23, 2019 5:26 pm @Long Con

Let’s say there’s no kill, 2 wolves and we lynch Sig and he’s a wolf.

Who is the second wolf?

Speedchuck or Nanook.

Why everyone betray me

Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Mon Dec 23, 2019 4:06 pm SIG DIES TOMORROW TRAIN

DDL

PEOPLE NOT IN THE TRAIN YET

@Jackofhearts2005
@Turnip Head
@NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME
@speedchuck
@Long Con

Everyone grab your tickets.

If we’re both alive ask me when the day starts

I can’t leave you people to your own devices for half a day jfc

Wtf guys

Like seriously wtf

Cause I’m reasonably sure that my 4th grade niece grasps context better than you tbh

That’s a serious question btw

Turnip Head wrote: ↑Sun Dec 22, 2019 10:03 pm That's not what I said. What I said was actually much smarter.

Would you say your reading comprehension is above or below a 4th graders and how much are you willing to bet on it

Turnip Head wrote: ↑Sun Dec 22, 2019 8:52 pm If you weren't town cleared by pretty much everyone else I'd give you a harder time about it. Seemed scummy to me.

Yeah saying someone is town is super fucking scummy, you got me

Turnip Head wrote: ↑Sun Dec 22, 2019 8:51 pm

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Sun Dec 22, 2019 8:46 pm

Turnip Head wrote: ↑Sun Dec 22, 2019 8:06 pm Just thought it was interesting that's what you chose to comment on after being away from the thread for a while. No one's really talking about LC as a suspect right now, but there's been lots of talk about other things, and then you wrote a paragraph about why we shouldn't suspect LC, lol

What’s your point mate

What was yours?

That LC is likely town, think that was pretty clear tbh

Turnip Head wrote: ↑Sun Dec 22, 2019 8:06 pm Just thought it was interesting that's what you chose to comment on after being away from the thread for a while. No one's really talking about LC as a suspect right now, but there's been lots of talk about other things, and then you wrote a paragraph about why we shouldn't suspect LC, lol

What’s your point mate

Turnip Head wrote: ↑Sun Dec 22, 2019 7:37 pm

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Sun Dec 22, 2019 7:22 pm Unless we think that mafia are either borderline incompetent or playing 8D chess while we play checkers with a blindfold on and no thumbs, LC is not mafia given that he was the counterwagon to try and save sloonei day whatever day sloonei didn't die because some of you felt bad for dollar store jay.

Nobody's talking about what you just came here to say.

I saw his name floated and I made my stance clear, get over it.

Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Sun Dec 22, 2019 7:34 pm Ok.

Your position on Creature, nanook?

Cuz for me it's between Speed and Creature, with TH on the side.

I can’t think of a single thing creature has done tbh, so. Idk maybe is the best answer I’ve got lol

Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Sun Dec 22, 2019 7:38 pm Imo your way if thinking is kind of similar to mine, it's the way you say it to other people that causes attrition. We seem to be reaching the same conclusions today, though.

Well, I don't always play in analysis mode, a lot of the time I just play in instinct mode, cuz analysis mode has burned me a lot before.

It’s a combination of the two yeah? What you refer to as analysis mode combined with context.

Also sig isn't in the discussion if he's mafia he super bussed and that's not a conversation we're even considering until we think it's LYLO.

Unless we think that mafia are either borderline incompetent or playing 8D chess while we play checkers with a blindfold on and no thumbs, LC is not mafia given that he was the counterwagon to try and save sloonei day whatever day sloonei didn't die because some of you felt bad for dollar store jay.

Long Con wrote: ↑Sun Dec 22, 2019 2:21 pm

speedchuck wrote: ↑Sun Dec 22, 2019 1:24 pm

Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Sun Dec 22, 2019 12:37 pm Jack is my top town read rn;

He helped lynch Rej, he helped lynch Sloonei, and Rej had him as his primary option in order to get himself and Sloonei to safety.

Samesies

I would put Nanook right up there as well.

I <3 u 2

Normally I’d give DDL slight points for not trying to expand the pool that he and Chuck are in but I’m not sure he’s aware it exists and you guys don’t seem to play that way regardless, so he only gets a pass today because he’s saying a lot and I assume some of it isn’t useless fact recitation.

I’m gonna say DDL is probably town today, but there are a whole lot of very wordy posts that don’t actually tell us much tbh.

I do actually think speedchuck is the correct place to start tho so I’m not gonna be too judgmental of ya’ll [VOTE: speedchuck] aubergine

But yes please continue to tell me how me being better than you at finding scum must make me scum

sig wrote: ↑Sat Dec 21, 2019 12:06 pm Speed, TH, and LC are the three we should be eyeing at the moment.

Potentially Nanook as well I don't like that he's still alive or his LC save, assuming LC is also bad.

Now you can say well he went after Sloonie, yeah he did but bussing is a thing people do.

It’s a thing I pretty rarely do

Long Con wrote: ↑Fri Dec 20, 2019 10:47 am

sig wrote: ↑Fri Dec 20, 2019 3:15 am The only thing it does do is nake nanook last second swoop to save LC look better, which does help.

Nanook and sloondog both bad -- They switch the vote from LC (Civ) to Colin (Civ) -- Nanook still would like Sloon dead, and doesn't want LC dead -- Colin dies -- the writing was on the wall for Sloon, so the bus was easy to greenlight. Maybe the tide would even turn to LC the next day? That would be a bonus. Otherwise Nanook gets to be LC's best friend and a true town champion for sticking with Sloon. Votepark on Sloon on Day 4, first one on!

I don't accept your proposal, sig.

If I were mafia I 100% just let LC die, there’s no way that sloonei doesn’t die after Colin does.

Hm it’s almost like we should’ve listened when I said yesterday that sloonei was the best kill. HMMMMMM

Some of you owe me an apology and an essay on why listening to Nanook is good and correct.

(This is why hammers are useful)

I empathize but also you should’ve been killed yesterday and since when is “I asked not to be killed” an actual reason not to kill someone

dunya wrote: ↑Wed Dec 18, 2019 7:42 pm

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Wed Dec 18, 2019 7:39 pm

dunya wrote: ↑Wed Dec 18, 2019 7:02 pm

Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Wed Dec 18, 2019 7:00 pm

dunya wrote: ↑Wed Dec 18, 2019 6:57 pm

Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Wed Dec 18, 2019 6:53 pm

dunya wrote: ↑Wed Dec 18, 2019 6:40 pm why the hell is nanook your top town read lmao.

I fought the guy.

I think he seriously believes all that stuff he said.

can't he strongly believe in a mafia principle and still be scum, though? i don't see why strong convictions make him town. it just means he's stubborn to me

How strong is your bad read on him?

he's barely given me actual content to critique. i have no reason to town read him and that's what worries me most since i have at least 1 reason to townread every other living player.

That sounds like a you problem more than a me problem

oops
it's harder for me to form opinions on people i have never played with, and doubly hard when you're a marmot or wilgy and sincerity is masked with humor and sarcasm.

Yeah heaven forbid we have fun playing a game, what is this world coming to

Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Wed Dec 18, 2019 7:39 pm

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Wed Dec 18, 2019 7:24 pm

Turnip Head wrote: ↑Wed Dec 18, 2019 5:11 pm It feels like Nanook is fighting the thread and not the bad guys

If the thread would kill the bad guys with me I wouldn’t have to fight it

Let's kill dunya then.

I’m not considering anyone except sloonei today.

dunya wrote: ↑Wed Dec 18, 2019 7:02 pm

Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Wed Dec 18, 2019 7:00 pm

dunya wrote: ↑Wed Dec 18, 2019 6:57 pm

Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Wed Dec 18, 2019 6:53 pm

dunya wrote: ↑Wed Dec 18, 2019 6:40 pm why the hell is nanook your top town read lmao.

I fought the guy.

I think he seriously believes all that stuff he said.

can't he strongly believe in a mafia principle and still be scum, though? i don't see why strong convictions make him town. it just means he's stubborn to me

How strong is your bad read on him?

he's barely given me actual content to critique. i have no reason to town read him and that's what worries me most since i have at least 1 reason to townread every other living player.

That sounds like a you problem more than a me problem

dunya wrote: ↑Wed Dec 18, 2019 5:14 pm

Turnip Head wrote: ↑Wed Dec 18, 2019 5:11 pm It feels like Nanook is fighting the thread and not the bad guys

actually, i can feel that. but i dont know if that's his style. i was in on his interview a TSer in the welcome forum, and he seems a bit like his personality there. concise, a bit abrupt and maybe some ego splashing at the sides.

I keep my ego firmly contained in a Pyrex, tyvm

Turnip Head wrote: ↑Wed Dec 18, 2019 5:11 pm It feels like Nanook is fighting the thread and not the bad guys

If the thread would kill the bad guys with me I wouldn’t have to fight it

LoOkInG aT vOtEs Is DuMb ThO

French, Latin, they’re all dead languages

To be clear I'm vote parking and not seriously discussing anything until this kill goes through.

Happy to shoot the shit or talk theory, though.

sig wrote: ↑Tue Dec 17, 2019 5:04 pm

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Tue Dec 17, 2019 5:00 pm

sig wrote: ↑Tue Dec 17, 2019 4:56 pm

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Tue Dec 17, 2019 1:16 am I hope you guys are proud of yourselves tbh

You were the last second switch to Collin though.

Yeah it was him or LC, my thinking was I don’t really have any reason to think LC is scum (actually I had reason to think he’s town if sloonei is scum), so killing LC likely just means another dead townie with no real game progression, at least Colin outs sloonei if he flips town.

How so?

I’m not interested in repeating why there was very likely scum between sloonei and Colin ad infinitum

I think it’s not hard to follow that progression if you’ve been paying attention to what I’ve been saying

sig wrote: ↑Tue Dec 17, 2019 4:56 pm

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Tue Dec 17, 2019 1:16 am I hope you guys are proud of yourselves tbh

You were the last second switch to Collin though.

Yeah it was him or LC, my thinking was I don’t really have any reason to think LC is scum (actually I had reason to think he’s town if sloonei is scum), so killing LC likely just means another dead townie with no real game progression, at least Colin outs sloonei if he flips town.

Of course not, an honest conversation might involve you having to admit you don’t know everything or that your assumptions are baseless and flawed, what a horror that would be

I mean if you want to have a good faith discussion about mafia theory we can definitely do that, but your treatment of me so far reeks of condescension and it’s not what I want to spend more time on. I’m only responding to it now because it’s 6am and I decided not to put game relevant thoughts into thread at night.

You should probably not be such a dick to people new to your site, idk how you expect to retain new players. Or maybe you want to just have a big circle jerk about how good your gut reads are and how awesome you are at bussing, idk.

But yes, please continue to make ill-informed and grossly inaccurate statements about how I play and think, it’s sort of amusing in an annoying way.