The Syndicate

Deli wrote: ↑Tue Jun 22, 2021 9:47 am
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Tue Jun 22, 2021 9:45 am Idk if it actually works in general, maybe it just works for me and I'm presenting anecdotal evidence as stronger than it actually is. Do so at your own risk
When I get accused of gamethrowing after a brutal loss of my own causing, I'm blaming you :P

That seems totally fair and reasonable, can't argue with that

Idk if it actually works in general, maybe it just works for me and I'm presenting anecdotal evidence as stronger than it actually is. Do so at your own risk

Deli wrote: ↑Tue Jun 22, 2021 8:16 am
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Tue Jun 22, 2021 2:34 am
Deli wrote: ↑Tue Jun 22, 2021 1:04 am

https://imgur.com/gallery/dCpiDFv

Yeah idk if that works lol idk how to get a screenshot from my phone to go in here. I made an Imgur account but idk if that works. JJJ lol please just open mafia chat. I worked so hard cop hunting d1
Tbf i do that most games, I usually aim to be poe but not die for the first day or two at least
Haha yeah, I mean most seers should be aiming to do that, though open seering like that is a huge risk. We kill you n1 and your play becomes less of a good gambit and more borderline gamethrowing. There were a lot of good reasons to kill you on top of your seer equity— like that you very likely could have been the peek by the real seer (if you weren’t). I wanted to kill you just for that lol but I wasn’t really available to do much rereading at all that evening and most of the game as I was on a bachlorette trip for my friend

Yeah, was certainly a risk but I tend to get NKed relatively early when I dont leave myself in the poe, and I tend to do and say that no matter my role, so I felt it was worth the chance. I disagree its gamethrowing if it doesn't work tho, not every non-bog standard play is gamethrowing lol. Open PRing can be risky but it works a lot more often than many people think.

The chances of being the real peek if I weren't the seer were unfortunate but pretty well out of my control.

Although also tbf I wasn't really trying to hide being the cop

Deli wrote: ↑Tue Jun 22, 2021 1:04 am

https://imgur.com/gallery/dCpiDFv

Yeah idk if that works lol idk how to get a screenshot from my phone to go in here. I made an Imgur account but idk if that works. JJJ lol please just open mafia chat. I worked so hard cop hunting d1

Tbf i do that most games, I usually aim to be poe but not die for the first day or two at least

Fwiw I checked creature cause fmpov luck was already lock town for me so the only world the game wasn't locked fmpov was if creature was town

Which was pretty unlikely but still the best check imo given game is locked if they're mafia and the only time they don't die is if they're green checked

And you were fairly close to actually getting me over so can't say it was necessarily the wrong play

Hyena wrote: ↑Mon Jun 21, 2021 9:52 pm GG, all. <3 No regrets CC'ing Nanook. I couldn't help it.

One of you kinda has to at that point

[VOTE: creature] aubergine

Creature red

[VOTE: hyena] aubergine

Idk is there any benefit to waiting? Hyena fairly obviously red fmpov given refusal to rescind, worlds seem fairly clear to me

Esooa wrote: ↑Sat Jun 19, 2021 4:41 pm
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Sat Jun 19, 2021 4:40 pm
Esooa wrote: ↑Sat Jun 19, 2021 4:08 pm @NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME do the town a favor and hammer
Tease
if you vote them I will. You don't get the hammer after yesterday you're grounded

Thats fair

My world is

Hyena red obviously

Creature prooooobably also red

Ejj or deli for last teammate (more likely deli imo, ejj has done some stuff i think may be scummy but other people have seemingly confident town reads there, so ymmv)

Syn and fingers and esooa green checked

Don't think Luck trying to claim green on me then not killing me last night forcing a teammate to cc me makes much sense for mafia

Esooa wrote: ↑Sat Jun 19, 2021 4:08 pm @NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME do the town a favor and hammer

Tease

To preempt the followup

I thought kza clams up as scum when pushed and does a mix of omgus and flake, whereas they're a bit more likely to lash out and still give some reads when town

To be fair to me I wasn't aware he'd just been fake redchecked in another recent game, I wouldn't have done it here had I been aware, but that's life

Or I was correct and it didn't apply this game, either way, obviously it didn't work out as planned

Dunno i haven't kept track

I thought I found a tell from Jay's psych game he subbed into for me and could force it with a faked red check, obviously was mistaken

Esooa wrote: ↑Sat Jun 19, 2021 11:41 am who here thinks nanook is so bad at the game he decides to randomly out and tell people to drop cover day 2 just so he can fake a red on someone he knows he can't read?

I mean obviously I thought I could read them lol

Esooa wrote: ↑Sat Jun 19, 2021 11:41 am Why does a cop who didn't have checks under threat and isn't under threat EVER out day 2? Literally SoD nanook claims for no reason and tells everyone else to drop cover--literally telling people to not pretend to be cop any more because it's him

why? Look at nanooks day 1 play, he apparently wants to live enough that he's scum reading people just to be PoEd, what does he do with it? Instant claim day 2? Didn't try to live any longer?

Correct

I actually do believe it like half the time

Now you're really reaching lol

Esooa wrote: ↑Sat Jun 19, 2021 11:24 am can you explain the perspective of someone who would get mad at Michelle for faking a red on Alison, and then would immediately do the same themselves?

Yeah that's ignoring a lot of context

Also I'm totally a self centered hypocrite that would do it anyways

Closed role madness is also a lot different than a straight cop game lol

Esooa wrote: ↑Sat Jun 19, 2021 11:23 am nanook recently played a game called Fargo mafia. In this game a town cop faked a red check. Nanook got mad at them when they outed it was fake. Do you think town!nanooks play is to immediately do the same as cop?

I didn't get mad at them for faking it

I got mad at them for holding it through other stuff and for two days

I've faked checks before and tbh ill probably do it again

Eh you're voting your emotions not your head let's not pretend otherwise lol

Which like I said its fine whatever, part of the risk of being wrong is tilting someone into anger voting, but let's just call it what it is lol, you know the actual correct answer you had it earlier you're just too annoyed with me to care

I mean I get you're annoyed with me but im very obviously town lol

fingersplints wrote: ↑Sat Jun 19, 2021 11:11 am I’m not annoyed. As I said I’ve seen crazier plays, and it would have been cool if it was right. I feel bad for KZA but it’s mafia and we’ve all been killed for shitty reasons so what are you going to do.
One mislynch doesn’t end a game.

Yeah wasn't aimed at you lol

Like if you want to vote me cause you're annoyed with me fine but if you want to win its fairly clear I'm the real cop lol

Esooa wrote: ↑Sat Jun 19, 2021 11:05 am if your claim is "I am hard claiming this and if I rescind I die"

then you rescind

you sure

Hyena pushed their alleged green check lol

Headdesk

Esooa wrote: ↑Sat Jun 19, 2021 10:11 am tbh I'm still willing to vote nanook just cause his day 2 was one of the worst things I've seen in a while

Meh

ejjinami wrote: ↑Sat Jun 19, 2021 7:39 am
Hyena wrote: ↑Fri Jun 18, 2021 6:48 pm I'm hardclaiming cop.

N1-Creature v
N2-Luckbox v
N3-MissSparkles v

I want Nanook's head on a platter.

[VOTE: Nanook] aubergine
Creature wrote: ↑Fri Jun 18, 2021 6:50 pm [VOTE: Hyena] aubergine

Creature wrote: ↑Fri Jun 18, 2021 6:51 pm Bro stop lying about shit
Creature wrote: ↑Fri Jun 18, 2021 6:55 pm I'm tired. Can we punish the players lying about being cop?
looking through creature’s ISO
one thing that popped out to me is that creature immediately assumed hyena’s claim was a lie, despite all of hyena’s checks being valid from his pov
Nanook didn’t have time to counterclaim yet

not that it changes anything lol
Creature wrote: ↑Fri Jun 18, 2021 8:04 pm
Hyena wrote: ↑Fri Jun 18, 2021 8:01 pmKami had a fake green check on Nanook, too. Between that and the red check on Creature, who A LOT of people are scumreading, killing Kami is a good way to redirect attention away from Nanook. I had no control over the Creature check. That was my n0 check.
As much as I would love to be copcleared I think you slipped not cop.
wanna elaborate? :>

"Nanook didn't have time to counterclaim yet" is a weird thing to say about someone who's been holding a cop claim since sod2 lolol

Hyena is the cc, not me

That was my first impression too but its a bizarre mistake to make

Its also fairly incoherent so idk

I mean yeah the fact I'm alive is certainly a good point in your favor

ejjinami wrote: ↑Fri Jun 18, 2021 8:47 pm
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Fri Jun 18, 2021 8:40 pm
ejjinami wrote: ↑Fri Jun 18, 2021 8:40 pm
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Fri Jun 18, 2021 8:38 pm You shouldn't black ball people for making questionable plays lol thats definitely overkill
you shouldn’t gamethrow
Everyone gamethrows sometimes
faking red checks, not rescinding when the real cop has counterclaimed, brute-forcing a lynch on their N0 green check?
I’d say if you were vanilla, I’d count that as seriously gamethrowing

regardless if it’s with good intentions or not, it should be punished in some way
same goes for most fake red checks imo

as for this game, the only way I wouldn’t see your play as gamethrowing is if you’re really the cop- …the chance of success could actually be statistically fine then tbh
or scum

so like, we’re good

I have seriously bad experiences with FPSing townies on my home site… this is just something I don’t accept and get VERY easily triggered by
so feel free to just ignore me

Luck isn't the real cop even if i were vt so your argument is flawed

Anyways this is meaningless atp

ejjinami wrote: ↑Fri Jun 18, 2021 8:40 pm
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Fri Jun 18, 2021 8:38 pm You shouldn't black ball people for making questionable plays lol thats definitely overkill
you shouldn’t gamethrow

Everyone gamethrows sometimes

Luckbox Inc wrote: ↑Fri Jun 18, 2021 8:38 pm I don't understand why wolves don't just kill Nook there if Nook isn't a wolf. He still looks like the seer and if he isn't then I still do

so that part is going to continue to bother me-- the fact that I didn't die make Nook looks worse but that contradicts how I feel about him.

Weirdly the fact you didn't die makes you look worse fmpov

Spidermanpointingmeme

I also don't know how you think there's any chance I rescind my cop claim I've been holding it since sod2 lol

ejjinami wrote: ↑Fri Jun 18, 2021 8:35 pm
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Fri Jun 18, 2021 8:32 pm
ejjinami wrote: ↑Fri Jun 18, 2021 7:51 pm …let me say one thing, this is not the right time to go around claiming peeks on players in the PoE
if hyena is the cop, nanook HAS TO rescind. This is not up to discussion.
if he doesn’t and is vanilla, I genuinely hope he gets banned, removed from this site and as many others as humanly possible.

If there is 1 scum among those 2, this needs to be clear.

and honestly, IF no one rescinds, I’d be tempted to just yeet hyena just because of the night kill. This play would make sense coming from scum if they’re desperate and failed at killing the real cop tonight
and I can’t think of a single reason how kami would have been killed if the mafia didn’t think she was the cop
This seems like overkill

I'm not vanilla so it doesn't matter but still
thank you, that’s all I needed

honestly, if you were vanilla, your claim would be way worse tho… like… WAY worse
quite literally gamethrowing on multiple levels
not overkill for me

but yeah, it really doesn’t matter now

You shouldn't black ball people for making questionable plays lol thats definitely overkill

ejjinami wrote: ↑Fri Jun 18, 2021 7:51 pm …let me say one thing, this is not the right time to go around claiming peeks on players in the PoE
if hyena is the cop, nanook HAS TO rescind. This is not up to discussion.
if he doesn’t and is vanilla, I genuinely hope he gets banned, removed from this site and as many others as humanly possible.

If there is 1 scum among those 2, this needs to be clear.

and honestly, IF no one rescinds, I’d be tempted to just yeet hyena just because of the night kill. This play would make sense coming from scum if they’re desperate and failed at killing the real cop tonight
and I can’t think of a single reason how kami would have been killed if the mafia didn’t think she was the cop

This seems like overkill

I'm not vanilla so it doesn't matter but still

MissSparkles wrote: ↑Fri Jun 18, 2021 7:46 pm Well we can just let scum kill the real cop and yeet the fake tomorrow

If we kill town today we're at f7 KILO tomorrow

MissSparkles wrote: ↑Fri Jun 18, 2021 7:43 pm
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Fri Jun 18, 2021 7:40 pm
MissSparkles wrote: ↑Fri Jun 18, 2021 7:38 pm Hyena’s chrcks make more sense then Nook’s tbh.

Nook’s basically checked all the obvious town bar myself and didn’t help narrow POE whatsoever
Fingers was assigned and your slot was hard poe when I checked it lol
Ok fair, why Esoa?

Too many poe are town for there not to be a deeper mafia, esooa a) wasn't likely to die without a check if she's mafia and b) more likely to die without a green check if she's town

MissSparkles wrote: ↑Fri Jun 18, 2021 7:39 pm
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Fri Jun 18, 2021 7:36 pm Also pissed isn't the same as basically ghosting
I mean if i’m pissed, im gonna leave the thread otherwise i’ll more then likely get banned.

Meh ghosting and putting absolute minimal effort in is also the scum move to make so

I was ready to rescind as soon as they raged or (preferably) kept playing, they did neither and went the same route thats optimal for scum, so I held it.

You can scold me all you want im not going to suddenly have regrets

MissSparkles wrote: ↑Fri Jun 18, 2021 7:38 pm Hyena’s chrcks make more sense then Nook’s tbh.

Nook’s basically checked all the obvious town bar myself and didn’t help narrow POE whatsoever

Fingers was assigned and your slot was hard poe when I checked it lol

MissSparkles wrote: ↑Fri Jun 18, 2021 7:37 pm
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Fri Jun 18, 2021 7:35 pm
MissSparkles wrote: ↑Fri Jun 18, 2021 7:33 pm
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Fri Jun 18, 2021 7:18 pm
Luckbox Inc wrote: ↑Fri Jun 18, 2021 7:16 pm
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Fri Jun 18, 2021 7:15 pm Yeah I was wrong on kza, I have no regrets. I had a strong read and I went with it
What was your read?
That he was mafia? Is that not clear?

I thought the way he did literally nothing after the red check was also pretty mafia, ghosting on a game after you've been red checked looks pretty mafia to me
I mean when it happens two games in a row you have every right to be pissed.
When else did he get fake red checked
Exile game.

Ah I didn't read that game, rip. Probably would've done it to creature instead if I had

Also pissed isn't the same as basically ghosting

MissSparkles wrote: ↑Fri Jun 18, 2021 7:33 pm
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Fri Jun 18, 2021 7:18 pm
Luckbox Inc wrote: ↑Fri Jun 18, 2021 7:16 pm
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Fri Jun 18, 2021 7:15 pm Yeah I was wrong on kza, I have no regrets. I had a strong read and I went with it
What was your read?
That he was mafia? Is that not clear?

I thought the way he did literally nothing after the red check was also pretty mafia, ghosting on a game after you've been red checked looks pretty mafia to me
I mean when it happens two games in a row you have every right to be pissed.

When else did he get fake red checked

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