The Syndicate

you're not allowed to aggressively case one scumread more than others today I think, that'd be too clear of a vote telegraph

lololololo

I mean I've seen your style

this day also kinda ruins checking against playstyle because people can't hardcore tunnel on one or two scum

but I expected slightly more tunneling out of you

whatever

done with today pretty much

will lurk and vote

radishes if you're town id consider jack before eva

that's where I'd be

also should reiterate I read lots of isos n1 and I disliked radishes, so I came into today with that bias

can't really spell out why cuz I can't check it rn....

and also I just don't believe Eva is scum rn...? but maybe you're right and we're all wrong here and Eva is way better at scum than I thought

Master Radishes wrote: ↑Thu Oct 31, 2019 3:08 pm

iaafr wrote: ↑Thu Oct 31, 2019 2:55 pm don't think im doing anything substantive today other than what I've said

scumlist still lld radishes and then Dom or quin or pawn idk

lld's scumread of epi still exaggerated as well as her reaction to me disagreeing with that read

radishes eod analysis still agendaed and distorted

Dom's push on me still stupid and he's still shading me without actually engaging with any of the reads (acts as if I didn't give any reads after implying my reads list is full of omgus [no u]????)

and uh quin quoted my read on him/tsp and called it just interesting...? honestly wtf lol

Rabbit, your little bounce-around-scumreading-everyone thing is fine for D1, but we have half decent info now. I expected your thoughts would expand accordingly.

You're a perceptive player when you want to be and I respect that. Why do you call my analysis agendaed and distorted? Just because you disagree?

yes.

also most of that info disappeared so I can't access it directly, only with memories.

but yes the emphasis on the godfather role feels unnatural to the point of wolfy to me.

I like the way 112 is aggressively flinging shit on very thin impressions it's very Towny think I'm moving her to double lock town tier which means I might not even betray her

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Thu Oct 31, 2019 1:34 pm

112 wrote: ↑Thu Oct 31, 2019 1:25 pm

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Thu Oct 31, 2019 1:22 pm I’m right here, mongrel.

bro you have me, who's town, at the bottom of it, along with iaafr who's prolly town as well and MR who is likelier town than not

everyone scummy is in your null tier

gimme a break lol

I don’t have your role card and ifaar seems to be blatantly lying about how he treated Drago.

Case my null list if I should be scumreading these players.

Nova
Quin
DF
Juliets
LC
Pawn

yea but am I lying in a scummy way : brain:

Pawn Lelouch wrote: ↑Thu Oct 31, 2019 3:00 pm

iaafr wrote: ↑Thu Oct 31, 2019 2:55 pm don't think im doing anything substantive today other than what I've said

scumlist still lld radishes and then Dom or quin or pawn idk

lld's scumread of epi still exaggerated as well as her reaction to me disagreeing with that read

radishes eod analysis still agendaed and distorted

Dom's push on me still stupid and he's still shading me without actually engaging with any of the reads (acts as if I didn't give any reads after implying my reads list is full of omgus [no u]????)

and uh quin quoted my read on him/tsp and called it just interesting...? honestly wtf lol

And what's the reason for me? You put one out for the other 4 but not me. It's leaving me feeling left out.

bit too evenkeeled and idk maybe wishful thinking you would've helped bury lld with me last night if you're town

but idk kinda wanna remove you... I mean...you're definitely not in my actual Lynch list for today so I can remove you from the list and not break rulea

I fear there might only be 2 scum on that list of 5 but I mean fuckit whatever idc

if I'm wrong on radishes... I still don't think he's right on Eva... from my impression of her d1, her reactions to me were genuinely very Towny I think...? wouldn't bet the game tho

don't think im doing anything substantive today other than what I've said

scumlist still lld radishes and then Dom or quin or pawn idk

lld's scumread of epi still exaggerated as well as her reaction to me disagreeing with that read

radishes eod analysis still agendaed and distorted

Dom's push on me still stupid and he's still shading me without actually engaging with any of the reads (acts as if I didn't give any reads after implying my reads list is full of omgus [no u]????)

and uh quin quoted my read on him/tsp and called it just interesting...? honestly wtf lol

i like how people don't quote my latest stances or anything and act as if what I thought coming into the day is worth quoting

proof that reading older posts is overrated

iaafr wrote: ↑Thu Oct 31, 2019 1:32 am that reminds me, I should start logging on as invis, so i, deepest scum player who intends to endgame, cannot be angleshot

got around to doing this

one thing i appreciate about mu is that they at some point changed the forum software to have all new accounts as always invisible by default

cuz i mean its not like im trying to look but its there and i dont like that its there and giving me thoughts but i cant stop my thoughts sometimes

ah that kind of explains a bit

yeah i mean my shittier posting today and spat with dom was in the middle of busy phoneposting and it felt like shit

so my minor frustration with people not addressing my most recent lld shit and playing... i mean... its more understandable now if youre all on phones

whatever

like i said tomorrow is busy and stressful for me wish me luck gn all

i love cheesecake.

might have a slice rn tbh

yeah you have a point i respect it

MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Oct 31, 2019 4:16 am

Lady LambdaDelta wrote: ↑Thu Oct 31, 2019 4:05 am

MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Oct 31, 2019 3:57 am

Lady LambdaDelta wrote: ↑Thu Oct 31, 2019 3:56 am anyway this game is garbage so I don't know why I'm trying lol

it's honestly the opposite of fun sitting here trying to play this so fuck it

I'm out

-Lexi

Pretty mean to the designers tbh. You were warned ahead of time it wasn't a typical setup. If you hate it so much swap out.

It was pretty mean to us to say 'hey it's atypical" so I read the rules oh hey you can't claim oh hey weird mechanics, okay sure

sudden hidden mechanics and post restrictions are hard bastard

and not fun

so yeah I'm being mean but honestly it's frustrating

-Lexi

Aight maybe you should just give it a chance you might like it. Think of it as an immersive experience in the vein of werewolf not werewolf.

maan.

i dont know if id put it below lld to try all this shit as scum so i have to entertain it

are you not entertaining her being scum and somewhat faking this frustration as a tactic?

Lady LambdaDelta wrote: ↑Thu Oct 31, 2019 2:56 am

iaafr wrote: ↑Thu Oct 31, 2019 2:53 am i disagree with unreadably long and performative but alright thats an opinion thx

See this is why we shouldn't even fucking bother with you people

there's exactly 0 chance you went back to read that shit and gave it a good view to see if he said anything remotely beyond vapid content

you just asked to be able to gutcheck on your own biases

and the do this to me

fuck this why the fuck do I bother



-Nyx

also isnt this response kind of TMIing me town or at least reprsenting that shes currently frustrated by thinking im stubborn town who wont listen anyway

hows lld just try to spin it like

also I think my insight about the rabbit looking for a specific answer and turning on me when he got one he didn't like feels like a red flag you're ignoring pawn

i liked my approach of vent for like 2 posts then get called out by dom who mistakenly thought i was complaining about content production, and then get in a shitfight, lose all his trust, piss him off a bit, make him think im a hypocrite somehow, etc

i think that was an appropriate reaction to the overall situation, all things considered

not even hardclearing epi rn

Lady LambdaDelta wrote: ↑Thu Oct 31, 2019 3:54 am Pawn the posts were fucking giant and in sequence of each other, it was a fucking slog to read in which I felt my eyes glazing over multiple times

any assertion that this is not the truth, and that it's not intentionally done given the way the quotes were setup feels a bit disingenuous, at best.

there are so many town players who create annoying walls who dont seem self aware of how annoying their walls are to read

epi's quotewalls were like

in the 20th percentile of unreadableness at worst

if it was intentional he couldve made them a lot worse while still having plausible deniability

imagine actually apologizing for not capitulating to rabbits endless impatience as if youre obligated to answer quickly

its not a small ding its a
imho but meh

pretty reasonable take tbh

calling it a night

tomorrows busy af for me actually but im sure my obsession will have me here at some points

that makes my current scum list...

lady lambdadelta master radishes pawn lelouch

im just gonna drop quin off because i just remember that one post i saw made me think he was towny and like there was a real fiery push on tsp there

im replacing dom in my list with pawn maybe

because i feel like pawn shouldve reacted to that lld read of epi by now

and the lld read of epi is clearly counterfactual to me, there are a lot of individual thoughts that dont spell out the work but make sense

not much iioa, he has takes on almost everything and its clear when he hedges and the hedges feel natural too

none of his cases are unreadably long, if anything they're designed to be pretty readable

etcetcetc

problem is i actually like dom's #99 as a whole

and boy i wish i screenshotted or saved that quin iso somehow i remember reading it last night because i hadnt seen a single quin post and i thought it was juicy

but ic ant remember the nature of the juice

lol

i mean honestly how is this not bastard, not being able to read d1 lmao

Michelle wrote: ↑Thu Oct 31, 2019 3:17 am

MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Oct 31, 2019 3:01 am Dragomir was a wolf?

derp clear denied, welcome to my Poe

that post is a joke, michelle

he has indicated in earlier posts that he was aware of drago's alignment

Lady LambdaDelta wrote: ↑Thu Oct 31, 2019 2:50 am Anyway Epi's posts are performative, not informative and they're designed to seep into the nature of people's want for content.

It's IIoA. They say many words, but not much in the end.

More than that, they're doing the Bullets for Bullets tactic I outlined in my scum guide. It feels like the goal of the posts is to be unreadably long and make you skim and say generally "agreeable" things people can't exactly contest without strictly committing anywhere.

[mention]Pawn Lelouch[/mention] at some point i want your thoughts on this thought in particular

new reads flip im suddenly pinged by lld and mr more and by extension i think michelle finding llds mass complaining sus looks good for her so lets go with a new bottom four of

lld radishes dom quin

itd be a pretty noob move to want to throw evenstar, one of the tryhardest scum if scum, on 112 just to try to save drago like that

i mean ive seen it happen and i guess evenstar might be thinking on level 2 like looking bad looks good there because of people like me

but youre on level 1 and idk i dont rly buy level 1 evenstar saving drago and i think evenstar is town for other reasons

Master Radishes wrote: ↑Thu Oct 31, 2019 2:59 am

iaafr wrote: ↑Thu Oct 31, 2019 2:54 am radishes my main issue with your EOD analysis is that you seem to be taking it for granted that scum thought saving dragomir would be a longterm good plan and worth conspicuously saving despite his apparently horrible standing which would imply he wouldnt last more than 2 more phases imo

seems like an agendaed assumption

The 112 counterwagon was a valid one, though - if 112 ended up lynched and flipped town, no one would point the finger at any one voter. 112 has been a viable scum candidate and we'd all shrug and move on.

As for Drago, there are plenty of valuable scum roles in the game, but surely the Godfather would be one worth saving if there's a chance?

I just don't see a scum attempt to prevent Drago's lynch as a risky move - if it had worked. And it nearly did. It was literally the last two minutes that Hyena and Long Con (I think) voted to lynch Drago.

idk i dont consider godfather particularly strong, especially in a setup where investigatives cant claim. but even outside of that, ive always considered godfathers low avg utility but with high variance/swinginess

if theres scum KP thatd be more valuable; i could imagine some other scum actions being more valuable but idk what the roles look like in this game at all

but the main point stands that

if 112 is scum, they have better standing than drago, and itd be better to let drago die imo, regardless of roles

if 112 is town, people would look at drago immediately because people would resolve the cw

i dont see godfather being particularly worth saving there or any reason to conspicuously save drago at all

Lady LambdaDelta wrote: ↑Thu Oct 31, 2019 2:56 am

iaafr wrote: ↑Thu Oct 31, 2019 2:53 am i disagree with unreadably long and performative but alright thats an opinion thx

See this is why we shouldn't even fucking bother with you people

there's exactly 0 chance you went back to read that shit and gave it a good view to see if he said anything remotely beyond vapid content

you just asked to be able to gutcheck on your own biases

and the do this to me

fuck this why the fuck do I bother



-Nyx

lmfao

radishes my main issue with your EOD analysis is that you seem to be taking it for granted that scum thought saving dragomir would be a longterm good plan and worth conspicuously saving despite his apparently horrible standing which would imply he wouldnt last more than 2 more phases imo

seems like an agendaed assumption

i disagree with unreadably long and performative but alright thats an opinion thx

im just gonna air this thought out anyhow

different sites have different ideas of bastard

nonstandard voting + previously unannounced posting restrictions definitely fall under MU's idea of bastard

cant speak for other sites

i mean ill try but its definitely bastard imo

yeah youre allowed to case single players...

... idk its weird lol

epi did some nice analysis posts that you could probably play off of but yeah not rly i guess

just like a townlist or scumlist that qualifies under restrictions

i shouldve been more explicit

thats all i want rly

iaafr wrote: ↑Thu Oct 31, 2019 2:33 am

Lady LambdaDelta wrote: ↑Thu Oct 31, 2019 2:32 am This is how I feel rn about this game.


-Lexi

can you do at least one ostensibly pro town thing before i start to think this is a scum psychological warfare demoralization campaign

guessing not

Lady LambdaDelta wrote: ↑Thu Oct 31, 2019 2:32 am This is how I feel rn about this game.


-Lexi

can you do at least one ostensibly pro town thing before i start to think this is a scum psychological warfare demoralization campaign

well michelle just scumread like 4 viable MLs in my worldview who im lightly reading town for various reasons soooooooooooo yeah shes still in my pile

iaafr wrote: ↑Thu Oct 31, 2019 2:26 am good thing im scum and dont have to worry about these kinds of conundrums

(for context this was a response to lld's 381, if it wasnt clear)

good thing im scum and dont have to worry about these kinds of conundrums

Lady LambdaDelta wrote: ↑Thu Oct 31, 2019 2:24 am

MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Oct 31, 2019 2:20 am THIS THREAD IS NOW A SEXY CHAT ROOM

Can I change my gimmick to posting only anime gifs and images?

-Angel

rabbit stamp of approval granted

Michelle wrote: ↑Thu Oct 31, 2019 2:17 am iaafr speculating about a mera he doesn't know a thing smh

self meta is trash. my MU profile has all my games, i had time to put links and alignaments until summer.

You as player can't read me and your read is so much based on meta?

isnt this like a weird overreaction to

still kinda think shes scum? ive been on the fence with her the entire game because... i mean her town game has a decent amount of questions which i don't see the value of, but her game this game feels like 80+% questions i dont see the value of, and more of them as a proportion of posts than usual? maybe im just misremembering though. ive only played like 2 games with her, and she was slanky in one (sonic 3/21) and died early in another (d6 light).

this hedgy ass entry?

how is "self meta is trash" even relevant? im not asking for self meta and im not giving self meta...?

ey mac you read my recent readslist? whatchu think

if i die in this game i die in real life