The Syndicate

[VOTE: Alison ] aubergine

Here is my advice on what to do. First, eliminate Alison so that I won't die today.

If Alison flips scum, then eliminate Mac. If Mac is town, then eliminate Dizzy and Wilgy, in that order.

If Alison flips town, then eliminate me. I will flip town, whereupon which you should eliminate NAA and Wilgy.

I have about a 60% confidence that this solve wins the game. This may not seem like a lot of confidence, but it's actually quite a lot if you think about what I am proposing.

c4e5g3d5 wrote: ↑Sat Feb 26, 2022 2:13 pm Radish got better before I forget to say it

Screw you I can be mafia still.

My wagon has the two most stale votes.

Like I guess Axe moved his briefly to put Alison at 5 or whatever happened, but seeing as he then went back to me that barely counts.

[VOTE: NAA] aubergine

Omgus

Reminds me,

c4e5g3d5 wrote: ↑Fri Feb 25, 2022 6:52 pm
Master Radishes wrote: ↑Thu Feb 24, 2022 6:59 pm
Hally wrote: ↑Thu Feb 24, 2022 6:58 pm jay, why is radishes the towniest town to ever town?
I bet I can answer this and if Jay explains what's in my head I'll return the lock town read on him.
@Master Radishes hopefully if I ask this way it's slightly less tail-chasing

What would Jay have had to say for you to not townread him?

Nothing in particular. Without going back to quote specifics, basically Jay had made the first serious ish take in the early shitposting phase and it was about me so I stopped to consider why. I thought I knew what it was. He said what I thought it was. That meant I understood his mindset which is generally a good sign.

If he had something else I would've just kept him null and moved on. He said what I expected so I gave him a mental town point and moved on.

Any phrasing such as 'lock' etc we may have used was exaggerated. I'm pretty sure he assigned me a town point and then I did the same to him, and that was all.

That's an invitation for someone to say 'ah you see MR, C4 is lock town because...'

Actually if there's one name I'm maybe a bit off the consensus with its C4? Like I have a good enough feeling there but I feel I've seen multiple people call him along the lines of a super strong town read and I wouldn't add either adjective or any like it to such a claim.

Phew, that was a lot of effort. Gonna take a break.

These are nothing more than feelings, but I'd be fine with calling Hally and Marmot town, and probably Jay, Dizzy, and C4 too. I respect all their ranges but the first two have had moments where I sensed genuinity and the latter three it's more of an overall vibe.

I dont have anything specifically bad to say about most of the others, just that I've seen nothing I consider good enough to raise up beyond neutrality.

I've been called both hot and pretty in this game and now I feel good about myself.

There's way too much hammer talk in this game and none of it about MC.

For real though I tried taking D1 more seriously in a few games recently ish and I did badly, plus I'm on a phone and don't get a new laptop till Monday, so I'm not planning on doing much except occasional vibing until at least then.

I was meant to have my laptop already + hours of free time today and neither have come to fruition so I'm just gonna float down these rapids on my raft going 'wheeee' for a while longer yet.

*looks pretty*

Where does my shit lead

Why would I want to do more things

Actually maybe that's too sassy. Her towncore is consensus enough. Not sure if that's a good look per se, seeing as that's what scum tend to default to, but maybe v!Alison is not reading the game super badly, just a bit badly, which is acceptable enough for D1 I guess.

Alison read up and wrote a bunch of words on it and came out with almost exactly the same view, i.e. the same inner PoE with one minor addition.

If she's town she's reading this game kinda badly.

Anyway going for real please don't 1000 post over the next eight hours.

Hally wrote: ↑Fri Feb 25, 2022 8:02 pm
Alison wrote: ↑Fri Feb 25, 2022 8:00 pm
Hally wrote: ↑Fri Feb 25, 2022 7:57 pm
Alison wrote: ↑Fri Feb 25, 2022 7:50 pm
Hally wrote: ↑Fri Feb 25, 2022 7:47 pm alison, convince me that radishes is a dastardly villain please

it can’t just be that post dizzy quoted, right?
His entrance was bad. c4 made a case against him if you care about that. I don't, but maybe it sways you. Then he came back into the thread and sort of acknowledged the suspicion on him but skated by. (He was top wagon when he returned to the thread. But he did not do anything townie. Now he is not top wagon. This makes me wonder why.) His wagon position relative to mine makes me suspect him more.
i don’t see how this could possibly make you so confident he’s a wolf? i think radishes frequently “skates by” D1 and doesn’t really do much as a villager
I think he puts in more energy if he thinks he's going to get misexed.
when has he been in danger of being misexed today? i haven’t ever felt like his wagon was particularly likely to go over

Fwiw I am used to being a wagon in literally every game I play and I never felt in danger here despite the hammer.

Hally wrote: ↑Fri Feb 25, 2022 8:00 pm my vote is also on alison in spirit

I guess she's been spirit hammered then

Ugh I keep refreshing 'one more time'

Hally wrote: ↑Fri Feb 25, 2022 7:57 pm
Alison wrote: ↑Fri Feb 25, 2022 7:50 pm
Hally wrote: ↑Fri Feb 25, 2022 7:47 pm alison, convince me that radishes is a dastardly villain please

it can’t just be that post dizzy quoted, right?
His entrance was bad. c4 made a case against him if you care about that. I don't, but maybe it sways you. Then he came back into the thread and sort of acknowledged the suspicion on him but skated by. (He was top wagon when he returned to the thread. But he did not do anything townie. Now he is not top wagon. This makes me wonder why.) His wagon position relative to mine makes me suspect him more.
i don’t see how this could possibly make you so confident he’s a wolf? i think radishes frequently “skates by” D1 and doesn’t really do much as a villager

The skating is in my Canadian DNA.

Like Dizzy I need to go sleep. My vote is back on Alison in spirit.

Alison wrote: ↑Fri Feb 25, 2022 7:53 pm I am about 70% confident that Radish is mafia and you guys are acting like I'm 95% confident. It's weird.

Where in my posts have I projected confidence? Has my solve even focused untowardly on Radish at all, except as one step in a long sequence?

Please

82% of statistics are made up.

Alison wrote: ↑Fri Feb 25, 2022 7:50 pm
Hally wrote: ↑Fri Feb 25, 2022 7:47 pm alison, convince me that radishes is a dastardly villain please

it can’t just be that post dizzy quoted, right?
His entrance was bad. c4 made a case against him if you care about that. I don't, but maybe it sways you. Then he came back into the thread and sort of acknowledged the suspicion on him but skated by. (He was top wagon when he returned to the thread. But he did not do anything townie. Now he is not top wagon. This makes me wonder why.) His wagon position relative to mine makes me suspect him more.

Way to slip C4's thing in there without personally relying on it for your own case.

I am unconvinced that Alison is this convinced about me.

How about we skip to killing Alison first then me second.

[VOTE: Mac] aubergine

This is a reaction test.

For real though, Hally / Jay / Marmot Town core LET'S GO

Hally and Marmot outed.

My post was just a reaction test.

'Reaction test' has to be the most overused phrase in Mafia.

I suspect most such 'tests' are simply post hoc justifications for bad pushes.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Fri Feb 25, 2022 2:41 pm Randomly clicked, saw Alison wagon, loled

Y’all wild

Has she ever been D1'd before as either alignment? Let's make history.

Personally I think my page 1 Mac/Nook team has legs.

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Fri Feb 25, 2022 2:25 pm
Marmot wrote: ↑Fri Feb 25, 2022 2:24 pm
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Fri Feb 25, 2022 2:21 pm Wilgy hally and mac are my confident town reads now
Why is mac a tr?

I also still have a tr of Jay
Hes been townie and he's volume/quantity/rate cleared

The second is not true.

Source: GoC.

But it's mildly amusing.

[VOTE: Alison ] aubergine

Let's put her at 4 next!

Can't believe scum haven't taken the opportunity to hammer Wilgy.

If I put Wilgy at E-2 do you think he gets hammered?

I found it easy to misread Axey first time I played with him though. So like your second point of not seeing concern in his posts does feel normal for him imo.

Marmot wrote: ↑Fri Feb 25, 2022 2:02 pm
Hally wrote: ↑Fri Feb 25, 2022 2:00 pm nobody has any thoughts on this?

Hally wrote: ↑Fri Feb 25, 2022 1:02 pm
c4e5g3d5 wrote: ↑Fri Feb 25, 2022 12:46 pm Can I get a tldr on Axe that doesn't revolve around "not towny"
- treatment of alison is wolfy - opens saying he wants to sheep her while not yet having a read on her then v reads her for a weak reason that doesn’t really apply to her and makes no effort engage with/understand the suspicion surrounding her i.e. what villagers do when someone they v read is getting wolf read a ton. just don’t see any critical thought or drive to figure things out in his treatment of her and it reads more like he’s just trying to ingratiate himself to her.

- treatment of his nonconsensus suspects is wolfy - keeps throwing you out as a wolf read but does nothing about it. again, not what villagers do when someone they wolf read is getting widely v read. i think at one point he even threw out you/jay/dizzy as his suspects and you’re all being cleared pretty much, meaning from his pov town’s consensus is way off, yet i don’t see any of the concern in his posts that villagers have when they think everything is upside down.

- i find his treatment of me wolfy too but obviously biased there. just don’t feel like he’s been trying to solve me in a good faith way.

Hally wrote: ↑Fri Feb 25, 2022 1:06 pm also he and nanook know each other well afaik + nanook has been getting a lot of heat, but NAA has largely ignored him i think

i dunno, just not feeling the villager in the way he’s approaching anything but i’ve never played with him so maybe i’m backwards here

I bet your mason partner does

Oh damn I let Hally down.

Hally wrote: ↑Fri Feb 25, 2022 2:00 pm nobody has any thoughts on this?

Hally wrote: ↑Fri Feb 25, 2022 1:02 pm
c4e5g3d5 wrote: ↑Fri Feb 25, 2022 12:46 pm Can I get a tldr on Axe that doesn't revolve around "not towny"
- treatment of alison is wolfy - opens saying he wants to sheep her while not yet having a read on her then v reads her for a weak reason that doesn’t really apply to her and makes no effort engage with/understand the suspicion surrounding her i.e. what villagers do when someone they v read is getting wolf read a ton. just don’t see any critical thought or drive to figure things out in his treatment of her and it reads more like he’s just trying to ingratiate himself to her.

- treatment of his nonconsensus suspects is wolfy - keeps throwing you out as a wolf read but does nothing about it. again, not what villagers do when someone they wolf read is getting widely v read. i think at one point he even threw out you/jay/dizzy as his suspects and you’re all being cleared pretty much, meaning from his pov town’s consensus is way off, yet i don’t see any of the concern in his posts that villagers have when they think everything is upside down.

- i find his treatment of me wolfy too but obviously biased there. just don’t feel like he’s been trying to solve me in a good faith way.

Hally wrote: ↑Fri Feb 25, 2022 1:06 pm also he and nanook know each other well afaik + nanook has been getting a lot of heat, but NAA has largely ignored him i think

i dunno, just not feeling the villager in the way he’s approaching anything but i’ve never played with him so maybe i’m backwards here

Never seen scum NAA either so dunno, but I did read it over earlier and didn't have anything to counter it, just so you know your hard work didn't go to waste.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Fri Feb 25, 2022 1:55 pm [VOTE: DrWilgy] aubergine

Too much hammer chatter

Must say, I also found this weird. I never felt in danger of being hammered and I even resisted self voting for the meme because I figured it'd be a town more likely to hammer me, not a scum.

And then he doubled down on it which I guess is not really AI but still is a likely enough scum approach when called out on something.

I dont think I've ever seen scum Wilgz though.

Hally wrote: ↑Fri Feb 25, 2022 1:55 pm
Master Radishes wrote: ↑Fri Feb 25, 2022 1:52 pm
Hally wrote: ↑Fri Feb 25, 2022 1:51 pm what if i just lock radishes as v and mason with him for all of D1? what then?
Just like old times? I'm down.
ok, who we killing mason partner? what dastardly deeds have you uncovered? who makes you feel all warm and fuzzy in your root vegetable insides?

Iirc you do all the real work first and I just come in for a dunk later.

So iunno. I've mostly only been present for the opening pages of shitposting thus far.

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Fri Feb 25, 2022 1:51 pm Imagine having four votes on you after you've town told your ass off, smh

I feel you here.

Hally wrote: ↑Fri Feb 25, 2022 1:51 pm what if i just lock radishes as v and mason with him for all of D1? what then?

Just like old times? I'm down.

Hally wrote: ↑Fri Feb 25, 2022 1:43 pm
Master Radishes wrote: ↑Fri Feb 25, 2022 1:40 pm Everyone talk more about me.
ur hot

Everyone talk more about me.

After careful consideration, I have concluded that Nanook hasn't said anything towny at any point, and if he was town, he would have by now. He just straight up doesn't care about his reads or finding wolves. Lock mafia.

[VOTE: NANOOK] aubergine

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