The Syndicate

Master Radishes wrote: ↑Mon May 24, 2021 3:41 pm For post game cred: I didn't read much of Tim's post and I don't believe his claim.

GG all

Thanks for the free win

Gavial wrote: ↑Mon May 31, 2021 4:47 pm Douche

Can we not

Btw why isn't Tim dead since he's oh so confirmed.

#postgamecred

Let's see.

TSP town. Locked.

Vulgard I felt was towny back a few rounds ago when I was paying attention. I feel like that dipped once the suss piled up but I think that's possibly a natural reaction anyway. I think still town here, and I'd be content to lose to a scum Vulgard if it were me.

Daisy who knows. Chop there at some point imo.

Gavial insane. No judgement if he gets chopped in F3 or before.

Long Con and Kyle both fit the presence level of a scum trying to do enough to escape the inner PoE but without putting themselves out there too much. Normally this is the kind of slot I would want to yeet, but without a real understanding of their slots I don't want to, like, push for one, as I'm going off vague impressions more than cold hard facts. I do think that there was a pattern to Mac and Falcon both interacted with other players in the early game, namely primarily with now confirmed town, and Kyle interacted with both the same amount, which suggests he too is town. Or could also be 3P in this duo?

Who's left...oh Tim. Yeah. Him. He's a person.

Basically I think LC/Kyle kind of fits the slot of scum/3P best, but I also would be sorely tempted to get rid of the chaos and emotion of other slots. Like I'd rather lose to a scum Vulgard or LC who earned it than a scum Gav/Daisy.

#legacy

Yeah.

We're kind of at that point where I just need to go.

Sorry again for my lack of investment. I didn't intend to play any games during Champs but didn't want to leave any host hanging if I was asked.

And,

No I don't have any good reads. Like, TSP is obv town, but beyond that...I could force some, but I'm at my best when I am connected to the flow of the thread. I've at no point been connected. If I had been here from the beginning I wouldn't just slack off, but I subbed in knowing full well I would do it and hoping I could coast by on intuition. I've not done a good job of it. Sorry.

But drawing a line under that, I actually don't think me trying to solve now will help any. My legacy reads would probably not be helpful due to aforementioned disconnection. The best thing I *could* do is explain my progression (as I'm sort of doing now) and hoping the town among you recognise it to be genuine enough to not chop me.

So, um. Don't chop me.

Did you just google image search 'open wolf' and that's what came up?

Put that in your pie and eat it

[VOTE: DaisyCloud] aubergine

How about that

Like if town loses it's definitely gonna be partially my fault for letting myself get mischopped.

But I also just don't have any drive to open an iso and do anything.

This is a conundrum.

Ugh you guys are making me feel bad about giving up on the game.

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Mon May 31, 2021 6:08 am idk, would mr be doing more if he were a wolf? ... maybe??

For future reference (you don't need to apply the WIFOM now) the answer is yes, I feel more obligated as a wolf to help my mates.

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Sun May 30, 2021 3:07 am
Master Radishes wrote: ↑Sun May 30, 2021 3:05 am @me if anyone wants me to explain my thought process at any point or whatever.
do you have any thoughts on the last wolf? you're in a unique position here, if you're town you should have the best solving vantage.
also if you're 3p just claim now so we can get that out of the way

Not 3P.

I'm well out of sync with the game by this point, so despite my vantage point, no, I have little to add about anyone other than myself. Normally in this sort of situation I'd try to get by on intuition, but the added challenge this game presents are the certain...personalities...that clog up the thread. My usual tactic is to ignore such people and let others decide for me what to believe about them, but seeing as they continue to exist and post I feel like any mafia instinct I may possess is being interfered with. Dunno if that makes sense but it does in my head.

I solemnly promise to take some time to reconsider this game from some aspect or another, e.g. checking previous EoDs or whatever, before the end of the round, just in case you guys end up swinging to me.

@me if anyone wants me to explain my thought process at any point or whatever.

I only subbed in because I can't say no to a host who asks.

But I've been putting my Mafia energy primarily towards jury duty and this has been secondary. When I was being townread it was all fun and games. When I'm being scumread I just can't really bother because I've got better things to do.

Here's all I can tell you:

N1 - Quin visited chaos, got cursed
N2 - Quin didn't submit
N3 - no one but me visited Jack
N4 - I learned Boethiah can give out roleblocks
N5 - I made Tim a strongman for any action he took
N6 - no one but me visited Tim

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Sun May 30, 2021 3:02 am yeah that's why we're killing you

Fair.

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Sun May 30, 2021 2:46 am actually i think mr is the last wolf and there's just not really much else to say about that

It's not me, I've just given up on trying to be a productive member of the town.

Why tf do people keep choosing chaos

I'm going to bed.

[VOTE: Marmot] aubergine I guess.

Can we also remember the Syndicate offers a 'moderator on duty' specifically for people feeling frustrated to rant to so that they don't make the thread toxic.

If anyone is actually frustrated and feeling insulty towards someone else, PM JaggedJimmyJay and tell him why.

Ah yes, personal insults. You know you're winning an argument when.

Marmot wrote: ↑Fri May 28, 2021 5:19 pm
Master Radishes wrote: ↑Fri May 28, 2021 5:17 pm
Master Radishes wrote: ↑Fri May 28, 2021 5:16 pm I can't speak to proper iso solving etc but I got falcon by how he treated me, and I'm thinking of Marmot similarly. Marmot's played with me a few times; I'd expect some half-assed though put into a read on me at least.

I don't think I actually know why he thinks I'm the scummiest (as per his most recent readslist). Like I know it's thread consensus I'm scummy, but that's sort of the point - Marmot's read on me feels like it came about because the wind blew his weathervane towards me.

(Or maybe I'm just falling victim to thread consensus myself.)
Like I get v!Vulgard sussing me. He had a strong TR of me, but when three or four other people start saying the opposite your confidence takes a battering and you doubt yourself.

If Marmot explained why I'm bottom of his list I missed it tbh.

You've missed a lot dude, but I talked about you a lot yesterday, as well as earlier today.

Okay fair, can you summarise?

Master Radishes wrote: ↑Fri May 28, 2021 5:16 pm I can't speak to proper iso solving etc but I got falcon by how he treated me, and I'm thinking of Marmot similarly. Marmot's played with me a few times; I'd expect some half-assed though put into a read on me at least.

I don't think I actually know why he thinks I'm the scummiest (as per his most recent readslist). Like I know it's thread consensus I'm scummy, but that's sort of the point - Marmot's read on me feels like it came about because the wind blew his weathervane towards me.

(Or maybe I'm just falling victim to thread consensus myself.)

Like I get v!Vulgard sussing me. He had a strong TR of me, but when three or four other people start saying the opposite your confidence takes a battering and you doubt yourself.

If Marmot explained why I'm bottom of his list I missed it tbh.

I can't speak to proper iso solving etc but I got falcon by how he treated me, and I'm thinking of Marmot similarly. Marmot's played with me a few times; I'd expect some half-assed though put into a read on me at least.

I don't think I actually know why he thinks I'm the scummiest (as per his most recent readslist). Like I know it's thread consensus I'm scummy, but that's sort of the point - Marmot's read on me feels like it came about because the wind blew his weathervane towards me.

(Or maybe I'm just falling victim to thread consensus myself.)

I refuse to accept that someone believes you 'play' Mafia by just AtE-ing the shit out of everything anyone says about them.

Like what even is that.

(Great way to avoid faking a solving mindset though.)

(/fuel on fire)

People who do big font/bold/underlined/whatever realise people's eyes just glaze over at that, right? Like I don't even pretend to read it.

Scotty wrote: ↑Fri May 28, 2021 12:25 pm @Master Radishes why haven’t you voted yet?

Ah yes clearly after all my analysis this phase I know exactly what to do.

Scotty wrote: ↑Fri May 28, 2021 12:19 pm
Master Radishes wrote: ↑Fri May 28, 2021 12:12 pm
Scotty wrote: ↑Fri May 28, 2021 12:07 pm Granted MR could still be bad, since all we know is that he’s claimed he strong armed your power last night.

Which, like, is already questionable, since what we know with your power is that you do things sporadically if you can afford them.

Ugh
Tbh I don't even fully know Tim's role. I could strong arm someone, visit chaos, or some other useless thing where like I reset people's actions if they visit the same shrine as me. I just picked the most useful sounding one and chose the person who was consensus town even though it wasn't me consensus.
You only have 3 actions available today? Dubious, but ok

I have five shrines I can access but have to wait three rounds once used so only three at a time, yeah.

In my experience, if someone is wagoned multiple days but never quite goes over but also is never mech cleared, they tend to be a wolf.

But that's context depending and I don't know the context of Marmot wagons prior to my entrance.

I do sorta feel Marmot would, iunno, do more as scum. But what do I know I took an arrow to the knee.

Scotty wrote: ↑Fri May 28, 2021 12:07 pm Granted MR could still be bad, since all we know is that he’s claimed he strong armed your power last night.

Which, like, is already questionable, since what we know with your power is that you do things sporadically if you can afford them.

Ugh

Tbh I don't even fully know Tim's role. I could strong arm someone, visit chaos, or some other useless thing where like I reset people's actions if they visit the same shrine as me. I just picked the most useful sounding one and chose the person who was consensus town even though it wasn't me consensus.

I'm a millennial by definition but I prefer a computer over a phone every day of the week.

Except only a little bit now because I'm on a phone and already made one typo and will be sure to make more.

In fact no one ask me anything for at least another hour.

Ugh I'm gonna flip and everyone will just say I didn't do enough and I'll know they're secretly right.

I can't give informed reads on anyone else really because I've been stuck in real life for like 48 hours but if anyone wants me to explain myself and my actions and whateveri can do that.

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Fri May 28, 2021 8:42 am Well I don’t like this wagon though

Me neither tbh

I mean I couldn't use my good abilities so

Scotty doesn't know

Marmot wrote: ↑Thu May 27, 2021 1:16 pm @Master Radishes what did you do last night?

Made Tim strongman any actions he took.

Feel free to drop me some headlines on anything but I won't be checking in properly for awhile yet.

Do we not have over 24 hours left?

Some of us sleep and work you know.

N1 - Quin visited chaos, got cursed
N2 - Quin didn't submit
N3 - no one but me visited Jack
N4 - I learned Boethiah can give out roleblocks

3-Night cycle so I can forget to submit again.

I don't think the limited mech info I possess will help any, but I can share it.

[VOTE: Tim] aubergine

Vanity wagon let's goooo

Venereal town leader

Daisy, I don't know what to tell you. It's quite common to refer to town as a 'team' these days. I do it, as do several other prolific Mafia players I know.

DaisyCloud wrote: ↑Tue May 25, 2021 4:31 pm
Master Radishes wrote: ↑Tue May 25, 2021 4:30 pm
DaisyCloud wrote: ↑Tue May 25, 2021 4:29 pm
Master Radishes wrote: ↑Tue May 25, 2021 4:28 pm
DaisyCloud wrote: ↑Tue May 25, 2021 4:26 pm
Master Radishes wrote: ↑Tue May 25, 2021 4:21 pm I really don't like ever letting my team down and I know I should fight this, but I really just joined to keep a slot warm and I'm much more interested/obligated in reading Champs games right now.

If you guys decide to keep me around I'll keep playing - I won't just give up and completely slank or anything - but I'm just not going to invest my time in this all that much.
how is this not a mafia player conceding?
It's sort of missing the part where I say I am a mafia player.
it says team

I mean
You know there are two teams in Mafia games, right?
iirc we don't refer to town as a team

Oh sorry officer, I'll police my terminology better next time.

DaisyCloud wrote: ↑Tue May 25, 2021 4:29 pm
Master Radishes wrote: ↑Tue May 25, 2021 4:28 pm
DaisyCloud wrote: ↑Tue May 25, 2021 4:26 pm
Master Radishes wrote: ↑Tue May 25, 2021 4:21 pm I really don't like ever letting my team down and I know I should fight this, but I really just joined to keep a slot warm and I'm much more interested/obligated in reading Champs games right now.

If you guys decide to keep me around I'll keep playing - I won't just give up and completely slank or anything - but I'm just not going to invest my time in this all that much.
how is this not a mafia player conceding?
It's sort of missing the part where I say I am a mafia player.
it says team

I mean

You know there are two teams in Mafia games, right?

DaisyCloud wrote: ↑Tue May 25, 2021 4:26 pm
Master Radishes wrote: ↑Tue May 25, 2021 4:21 pm I really don't like ever letting my team down and I know I should fight this, but I really just joined to keep a slot warm and I'm much more interested/obligated in reading Champs games right now.

If you guys decide to keep me around I'll keep playing - I won't just give up and completely slank or anything - but I'm just not going to invest my time in this all that much.
how is this not a mafia player conceding?

It's sort of missing the part where I say I am a mafia player.

DaisyCloud wrote: ↑Tue May 25, 2021 4:22 pm wait, should I vote radishes? sounds like he outed

I did not.

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