The Syndicate

Kylemii wrote: ↑Sun Dec 27, 2020 1:42 pm

Grand Scheme wrote: ↑Sun Dec 27, 2020 11:46 am LOL awesome. I love it when someone who is not me does a genuine scumslip! Great lure, Marmot!!

Don't worry about it Kyle, you know I've slipped way worse, more than once.

it's honestly not even that bad, saved me a little work in the long run. we were already kind of fucked, I would have had to increase the PoE by 1 person which would have been easy enough, but it would have taken like a week, and maybe not actually worked.

Alison wrote: ↑Fri Dec 18, 2020 10:33 pm Kyle/mewtini, I'm having the hardest time reading you two. Weigh in on sig vs samu, please.

I'm not a fan of Made suspecting Samu. I think Samu is pretty obviously town and it's very easy to see that.

Samu
GS
Syn
Wilgy
[everyone else]
Made
Sig

I'm off now.

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sat Dec 19, 2020 3:24 pm

Alison wrote: ↑Sat Dec 19, 2020 5:45 am

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sat Dec 19, 2020 4:18 am The aggression shown by both sig and samu right out of the gate felt like two civilians who thought they’d caught mafiers.

If I show aggression out the gate you don't give me townpoints, because you know it's very well within my scum range. Same for Mac, nutella, or any other experienced player. sig is an experienced player. Why does he get points for aggression?

I am not awarding sig townie points simply for exhibiting aggression. I am awarding him townie points because I thought his particular aggression looked authentic. Samu's got a unique style, both verbally and in methodology, so it does not alarm me that a player would react the way sig did. It is not the first time I've seen that. Samu and I played together briefly in Champs, and the entire early portion of Day 1 was spent bickering about whether or not his play was suspicious.

Samu initiated the exchange with sig, and sig's response reads more like "irritated civilian whose words are being twisted" than "defensive wolf" to me. If anything, I feel like a mafia sig would be less inclined to react as harshly as he did. Sig is aware of his reputation as easy mischop bait. If he's mafia and trying to avoid that, he can do so there by not launching into a crusade against the wordy newcomer. But he does it anyway, because that's what his impulse tells him to do. I do not have any meta examples to back this up, it's just my kneejerk reaction to what I am seeing from this version of sig right now.

I'll also note one other thing that gave me a slight town lean on sig:

sig wrote: ↑Fri Dec 18, 2020 9:29 am Also hey. I'm in 2 games again somehow so activity may be a bit light for awhile

One of his first posts in the game is something that could serve as an excuse to be a low-volume contributor on Day 1. Since then, he has been one of the highest-volume contributors on Day 1.

sig wrote: ↑Sat Dec 19, 2020 2:38 pm Honeslty seems like you know he isnt mafia since you are and projecting that onto me

sig wrote: ↑Sat Dec 19, 2020 2:38 pm So we shouldn't be suspicious of someone who other people read as town? So deep wolves don't exist and weren't literally in the last game we played.

Also its a false narrative to even say Samu is a obv town, multiple people have disagreed with that your trying to force your opinion on everyone else's.

Also given that you literally just played with me can you not tell when im joking? I'm pretty sure this is the second time it happened this game vz not at all last game.

I'm really not liking your approach this game or the reasoning for why you should go after me it seems scummy

sig wrote: ↑Sat Dec 19, 2020 8:15 am I've got a tin foil theory brewing that wilgy, cat, and then Allison/syn are mafia with a tin foiled version of that theory saying instead of them its samu.

sig wrote: ↑Sat Dec 19, 2020 7:18 am

Alison wrote: ↑Sat Dec 19, 2020 5:45 am Sloonei, do you agree on disagree on the following points:

1) Samusamu is obvious town.
2) Sig would see that Samusamu is obvious town if he was town.

Ah but for anyone who knows me theyd say I'm obvious town so are you mafia for voting for me.

Also the idea your mafia for going against someone who you don't read as town even if other people do isn't a straight up mafia thing to do.

How many times have people deep wolfed in games, something Samu says he likes to do.

I'm not saying he is deep wolfing, but calling me mafia for not agreeing hes town isn't very logical seems like your trying to find a weak reason to throw down a vote.

mewtini wrote: ↑Sat Dec 19, 2020 6:40 am @Alison what would you say differentiates your wolf versus townie approach?

cat wrote: ↑Sat Dec 19, 2020 6:11 am [VOTE: Alison] aubergine

Based on observation. Too calm and methodical.

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sat Dec 19, 2020 4:18 am The aggression shown by both sig and samu right out of the gate felt like two civilians who thought they’d caught mafiers.

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sat Dec 19, 2020 4:00 am Cat might be bad instead of kyle

mewtini wrote: ↑Fri Dec 18, 2020 11:15 pm

Alison wrote: ↑Fri Dec 18, 2020 10:31 pm This post is pretty townie.

why? the tmi comment? since i see you're doubting Made atm

Alison wrote: ↑Fri Dec 18, 2020 10:33 pm Kyle/mewtini, I'm having the hardest time reading you two. Weigh in on sig vs samu, please.

think samu is clear town for energy and genuineness. also appreciated him trying to preserve thread direction and eventually saying "maybe sig is just aggravated town," felt like he was acting in good faith

reluctant to slap a scumlean on sig out of personal policy (which is that it's d1 and i want to see more before SLing anyone); i think i'm sideeyeing made more at the moment, actually. sig's recent posting feels more genuine / less wordtwisty than earlier posting did (need to reread later, the language boundary was i think a nonnegligible part of it + made was a bit more strange about it than necessary)

i'm curious about any metareads that anyone else may have on made/sig tbh. i also find it pretty difficult to read much of anything from the current lowposters, e.g. i'm wondering where the syn reads are coming from

Grand Scheme wrote: ↑Fri Dec 18, 2020 7:06 pm

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Fri Dec 18, 2020 12:06 pm Who's telling cat things?

There's not been a word 'tween he and I
But cat's belief could be TMI

And of all the posts that have been played
The towniest, to me, is Made.

Sloonei wrote: ↑Fri Dec 18, 2020 3:44 pm

sig wrote: ↑Fri Dec 18, 2020 3:43 pm

Sloonei wrote: ↑Fri Dec 18, 2020 3:34 pm [VOTE: falcon45ca] aubergine

For very good, very legitimate reasons.

Sloonie my dear, what are you're thoughts on shots and my back and forth with Samu

you are both town

Made wrote: ↑Fri Dec 18, 2020 1:46 pm oh....so coal is just a straight negative... ight doesn't change the null wilgy read, but it does change the flavor of wifom.

I thought the coal turned into a gift the next day...which when you say it out loud, sounds pretty silly