The Syndicate

TownMisleaders wrote: ↑Sun Apr 10, 2022 2:58 pm we're killing whysper
foolsgold admitted whysper was their werewolf buddy in the hood

they have kp, and if they live today they are certainly using it and i quite like my current wincon so i don't want to let that happen

That is also a good point

EoD is 5pm est so if y'all want a CW, then make one

[VOTE: Whysper] aubergine

I'm gunna lock my vote on whysper as soon as i take a shower just to make sure we get a lunch

Kill whysper today idc, I'm currently not interested in boq/leafia/gold

@Kurosaki Ichigo
I'm barning Nanook, that's why I'm voting you, but I'd honestly prefer to kill tilgarial

Part of me also thinks that, CRich is hiding stuff about his role and alignment

I dont think they are currently evil, but they could possibly become it
so honestly IDK

how much longer do we have?

lmao the squint is totally Trisscar
Im assuming what alignment people become is either already pre-determined, and not set based on their initial alignment as to say mafia become town or town become mafia
or its based on something else entirely, else the premise of the game would be just semantics

and sure voting Gorta because he isn't townie is fine I think, but i wouldn't say that is a hella good argument in general
anyways i like Solit so /shrug

this game is going to make me hate hydras lmao

@Boquise
lol dnt worry I got u

I am also pretty used to leafia being vocal in the thread even if most of it is non-sense
That is why they get mis-lunched a lot
but obviously here they are neutral, and I think there play matches exactly what they are claiming

to be fair I was the one hard pushing for people to claim or I would shoot them, and then Arctic immediately dropped the, "Im a hydra let me ask my partner", card

FoolsGold wrote: ↑Sun Apr 10, 2022 1:08 pm
TreeReaper wrote: ↑Sun Apr 10, 2022 12:32 pm
Boquise wrote: ↑Sun Apr 10, 2022 12:27 pm
FoolsGold wrote: ↑Sun Apr 10, 2022 12:44 am Think I'm ok with yeeting Boq or Treereaper atm, and Lemon wanted Treereaper as well.
And I'd like to avoid trivia again, sooooo...
hmmmmmm
opportunistic m'lord tbh
I agree,

It doesn't make sense FoolsGold targets me when they are scum (presumably would be goodreading me then) and then now suspecting me for real somehow without anything major happening to make that change happen.

I'd like to test the scum stays scum theory on second layer as well.

**/vote FoolsGold**

~Solic
Targeted you because you haven't flipped, and I couldn't recall a ton of the effect on the thread you've had. Other people were in the running for both heads, you were the convergence point.
Not sure what to think of you now though.

Anyway this quoted post is awful logic. We've already had multiple people change alignment in terms of host flip.

@TownMisleaders Just to clear things up out here. You think there's a Disguiser or Forger who's currently messing with flips in modposts?

the logic here is that, one, they didn't flip yet, so unless ur presuming there is more than one evil faction, its completely baseless to be voting them
and 2nd, tree repeat and boq are both lazy scum reads

TownMisleaders wrote: ↑Sun Apr 10, 2022 1:31 pm also, whysper's roleclaim is also rubbish - she claims the blood makes you "harder to target" despite whoever targeted onion having no problem with doing so, and tsumugi having no problem with targeting me

see these are good points

spouting misinformation
lmao u are wild
if anything ur insistence that Beans is somehow a Neutral Masonry is hella inflated and baseless

TownMisleaders wrote: ↑Sun Apr 10, 2022 12:55 pm my advice is that we stick the course on whysper. foolsgold admitted that their teammate has been widely suspected, and they also burst out into a salty rage when skillissue did the redcheck fps on whysper. i think they are the second werewolf

if anyone has got a better suggestion then please explain

u can do that, im not going near whysper

I mean if u are going to exile me, then confirm it, else don't touch me

if I die btw tonight, pay attention to Tilgarial
I still heavily dislike anything they have been doing with their exile ability
don't let them slide under the radar

Osie confirmed to me that Rebels are good-aligned uninformed majority
when i became mafia, he confirmed that they are good-aligned uninformed majority
and that I can assume that town are in fact, bad-aligned informed minority

TreeReaper wrote: ↑Sun Apr 10, 2022 12:24 pm I've been thinking it's just rebels/villagers/town against werewolves/mafia/spies and it make sense to me that good layers to good and scum would layer to scum, even though there have been some accounts that were confusing that (so I didn't really read up on it). (But it doesn't make sense to have scum flip to good, because they could just out their original scumbuds) I don't think this theory is verifiably false on shown flips yet though.

~Solic

no, rebels is on the wrong side

Mafia and Rebels are both good
Town is evil

that's everything that was confirmed on my end by Osie

so its good
Mafia/Rebel/X
Bad
Town/X/X

with werewolf/villagers/spies, filling in those X's

which is now weird that CRich added a new alignment to this conundrum

being hated in the VC is a mechanic linked to frustration in the thread, which at max can put you at +3
but as Osie said, its possible to go beyond that by other means

as for the direct cause, IDK, I've been trying to hit +3 so I can figure it out, to no avail

FoolsGold wrote: ↑Sun Apr 10, 2022 12:15 pm
Millium wrote: ↑Sun Apr 10, 2022 12:05 pm
FoolsGold wrote: ↑Sun Apr 10, 2022 11:40 am
Millium wrote: ↑Sun Apr 10, 2022 11:37 am is there any confirmation I what other faction is evil, that's not town?
no confirmation
but my speculation is that village and rebel are also evil and wolves and spies are good in the 2nd world
rebels are good
huh
so maybe spies are still evil in W2

probably, I wonder if we can assume there is 3 evil factions and 3 good factions, seems to align with 3 kills

I like Solic more than I like Gorta, but I never really hated Gorta in a, "This is probably a wolf" way, anyways

FoolsGold wrote: ↑Sun Apr 10, 2022 12:11 pm
TreeReaper wrote: ↑Sun Apr 10, 2022 12:02 pm I currently feel good about Milium and Tsumugi, that's also why I had decided to target Tsumugi with our ability.

I think TownMisleaders pushed the whole "it's just a FFA, so reads don't matter angle" too much, which makes me trust them less, but not enough to actually go after them, since I have been quite low efforting. I think their initial push on DKKoba was not as warranted, but I can see why it was continued after Math started posting more. I think the random comment they made on how we're somehow responsible for trivia murder super shady though. I haven't seen that resolved actually, so can anyone explain how it has to be someone causing it and not just rule #147?

Foolsgold just feels in default anti trust mode regarding us and I don't really understand why. The fact that they were scum at first, may make the antagonism more clear, but they haven't really addressed it openly.

~Solic
it's because you haven't claimed tbh
and you're the only slot to not have claimed afaik

i mean that's not true, so Arctic still has no claimed

Hmm difference check between Kiiruma and Tsumugi
Difference check between me and Tsumugi
and Tigarial has a difference check between me and him

also i may have died only once, but I've been shot twice lol

Arctic and Me are both stubborn players that's for sure

FoolsGold wrote: ↑Sun Apr 10, 2022 11:40 am
Millium wrote: ↑Sun Apr 10, 2022 11:37 am is there any confirmation I what other faction is evil, that's not town?
no confirmation
but my speculation is that village and rebel are also evil and wolves and spies are good in the 2nd world

rebels are good

is there any confirmation I what other faction is evil, that's not town?

I mean I dont think they explicitly made that faction up if that's what u are trying to argue
Whether they are evil is another story all together

most things are factions, outside neutral benigns

werewolf is a faction, cult is faction, mafia is a faction, town is a faction (regardless of how many exist in that faction)

Tsumugi wrote: ↑Sun Apr 10, 2022 11:19 am
Millium wrote: ↑Sun Apr 10, 2022 11:06 am
Tsumugi wrote: ↑Sun Apr 10, 2022 11:03 am @ATNoLeafia nothing odd about that? For a while milliumn was the only rebel to our knowledge.

I dont think the slot just makes up a new alignment.
What, both my partners claimed in there very first posts lol, they just never claimed their alignment, until a little later
I thought you were seperated from the chat pretty early on or am i mis remembering lol

what

I dont care enough to save Whysper do y'all
but not solving is a hilarious arguement given the multitudes of people doing just that, not solving
I think Wolf!Whysper makes bad posts, I haven't seen that, and I don't hate why they refused to talk to Onion

[VOTE: Ichigo] aubergine
since i keep forgetting to link these

We still have time, I'm not interested in resolving Arctic's slot anytime soon

And no we did not have a chat leafia

Tsumugi wrote: ↑Sun Apr 10, 2022 11:03 am @ATNoLeafia nothing odd about that? For a while milliumn was the only rebel to our knowledge.

I dont think the slot just makes up a new alignment.

What, both my partners claimed in there very first posts lol, they just never claimed their alignment, until a little later

Arctic did the same shit in my last town game, he tunneled two different town players, I think I was one of them

I kinda agree with Owl I think whysper is a made up train, which is weird, but I don't really think Nanook is pocketing me based on how we've talked in our dm

FoolsGold wrote: ↑Sun Apr 10, 2022 10:57 am Also, MisLeaders is trying really hard to make a push out of questionable logic.

This is exactly how he buried Koba's slot, like almost play by play, pull up some mechanical yada yada, to explain why you have to be evil

I mean kiiruma flips town, and evil faction, and he assumes that's a lie, because Kiiruma claimed mafia, as if the informed minority just claim there faction when they are evil

Honestly idk how Arctic doesn't get lunched more often than not with the way he talks lmao

I mean the argument I could take here is that FoolsGold is a separate minority evil, not aligned with kiiruma, but I'm assuming kiiruma was a hit until told otherwise, it's literally the only thing I can believe, like I can't sit here and just assume everything is a lie

TownMisleaders wrote: ↑Sun Apr 10, 2022 10:49 am
Millium wrote: ↑Sun Apr 10, 2022 10:48 am
TownMisleaders wrote: ↑Sun Apr 10, 2022 10:46 am
FoolsGold wrote: ↑Sun Apr 10, 2022 10:45 am
TownMisleaders wrote: ↑Sun Apr 10, 2022 10:43 am also, foolsgold are probably lying about being mafia too since kiiruma's n0 difference check was on them

it's possible that the n0 difference checks only apply to initial alignments, but this is the only one that doesn't work with core alignments we've found so far
kiiruma's first alignment was town and their second alignment was also town, they just falsely claimed mafia the second time
ah yes
he just randomly lied about being mafia for no reason
no, he was told he was mafia, and his real alignment was town because he was uninformed majority
he had a difference check on you, which means you weren't told you were mafia and are not an uninformed majority
What are u talking about
im tired of babysitting you on everything
how do you still not have recollection of flips or the kiiruma situation despite having the time to threadcamp

kiiruma claimed he was mafia
he didn't just do this for no reason, he's not a troll, he was actually told he was mafia and yet he flipped town
foolsgold claim they are mafia, but kiiruma had a difference check on them

I mean I'm assuming kiiruma was evil, so no, I see a town flip, and town are the minority uninformed evil in accordance with my wincon

I don't know why he said mafia, maybe he saw that in his new role pm, or maybe he new from the start he was informed minority, so he just swapped his alignment

ATNoLeafia wrote: ↑Sun Apr 10, 2022 10:49 am
TreeReaper wrote: ↑Sun Apr 10, 2022 3:48 am I think I remember why I wasn't liking ATNL, basically ATNL's comments like "my death doesn't help you, oh and you can all die" and the neutral claim itself doesn't sit well with me. To me it seemed that the slot was basically doing the most anti town things and saying "haha, I'm a noot". I don't think a good sided noot talks like ATNL did and even if ATNL is neutral it doesn't seem like they are trying to achieve a good win. ~ Gorta
Ahh yes, I think its time for me to pull up the neut dilemma. If I hard townside, I'm 100% getting shot and if I'm not, I'm getting lynched. Like I said, I'm not the slot who is killing other slot so your lynch on me is basically a waste of day. So now I ask you, who do you really think is scum because it looks like some kind of excuse to solve.

I mean, leafia isn't wrong here, just saying, the neut dilemma is real, which is why poorly designed/most 3p roles are hot garbage.

3 different uninformed majorities now

TownMisleaders wrote: ↑Sun Apr 10, 2022 10:46 am
FoolsGold wrote: ↑Sun Apr 10, 2022 10:45 am
TownMisleaders wrote: ↑Sun Apr 10, 2022 10:43 am also, foolsgold are probably lying about being mafia too since kiiruma's n0 difference check was on them

it's possible that the n0 difference checks only apply to initial alignments, but this is the only one that doesn't work with core alignments we've found so far
kiiruma's first alignment was town and their second alignment was also town, they just falsely claimed mafia the second time
ah yes
he just randomly lied about being mafia for no reason
no, he was told he was mafia, and his real alignment was town because he was uninformed majority
he had a difference check on you, which means you weren't told you were mafia and are not an uninformed majority

What are u talking about

I love when people just drop bombs and disappear, like there is no way CRich doesn't understand he was dropping a new alignment

SeonRichard wrote: ↑Sun Apr 10, 2022 10:43 am I should go to bed soon.
Before I do so, I claimed my alignment on Fortress of Lies yet that's probably going to be annoying to check.
I'll save you all the trouble, and I claim to be of the Citizen alignment.
My win condition is to defeat all informed minority factions, and have at least member of my faction alive.
Which to me sounds like I'm of the uninformed majority alignment.
I'm not sure if I have to claim my role yet.

-CRichard

Another alignment?

Btw I'm going to repeat some of the stuff I got form my chat with Osie since idk who actively even reads them

The colors in flips are mechanically relevant, but dont mean anything in terms of alignment, so w/e someone flips be it town, mafia, or etc... We can assume those are the true flips outside anything other mechanical happenings going on

Now based needs to flip so they will actually play the game

FoolsGold wrote: ↑Sun Apr 10, 2022 10:16 am
Tsumugi wrote: ↑Sun Apr 10, 2022 10:08 am i dont believe the consequences part, because owl outted zone and doesnt seem like he got hit with any consequences.
Well, I actually asked Osie if we were allowed to out our old partner and got back the answer that it may be disadvantageous (loosely paraphrased).
If nothing happens to Owl tonight/next phase, we might be more open to outting that info.

I mean that lines up, but I feel like many things are disadvantageous like claiming all my item tokens lol

I'm just curious now if 3 different factions we're all submitting one kill or at minimum two, because I account for the kiiruma kills, and if all this even lines up

@FoolsGold
I'm asking the only for the sake of clarity, mostly because I don't want to back read the flips or reread, since I don't have my contacts in and I can only read on mobile, but each of ur targets one one of the people that initially died each night?

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