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I’m sad you got offed Night One! I wish I’d have had more time to play with you! Thanks for making me feel so welcomed!NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Tue Jul 21, 2020 12:14 am How could you clear wisp after he claimed Jack Torrance A LITERAL BAD GUY
C’mon guys
[mention]Epignosis[/mention] & [mention]Wisp[/mention] Helluva game, guys! You deserved it! I’m still supa annoyed that no one would follow my feeling on you, Epi.
Still can quantify it. If ties are randomized, then there’s still a 50/50 chance of it going in her favor.JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Mon Jul 20, 2020 6:51 pm Note that, as I mentioned before, sabie’s role cannot be confirmed. It can only be disproven.
It’s fine, I’m expecting to go tonight. I reiterate again that I *will* flip as town and still think Epi is scum. Not like anyone has listened to anyone else’s parting words, lol.JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Mon Jul 20, 2020 8:43 pm I'm not sure why sabie is hesitating with this tiebreak idea.
Ok, where did I say I didn’t know something and then turned around said I did? Other than alluding that I didn’t know what they Vig did night 2. Show me.sabie12 wrote: ↑Mon Jul 20, 2020 6:19 pm It doesn't prove alignment. The more I look through kitsushels posts the more I see that she is capable of appearing to not know info and then later revealed she did. Meaning she is capable of lying and trying to make it look convincing, but is now looking for the liar... I think maybe I'll move my vote back to kitsu again for now.
[VOTE: kitsushel] aubergine
Duh, somebody is lying. But it’s not me, and that’s why I keep trying to not let y’all cover it up.Epignosis wrote: ↑Mon Jul 20, 2020 5:10 pmOr, you know...KitsuShel wrote: ↑Mon Jul 20, 2020 5:03 pmLike, i don’t even get where the question of if I’m a poisoner comes from. A two second google search will tell you what you need to know about Jack Daw, and there is zero to do with poisoning.JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Mon Jul 20, 2020 2:40 pm I mean, if Kitsu isn't a poisoner and Wisp/his checks are to be trusted, then the poisoner must be sabie.
I wish that deduction felt more comfortable than it does.
I think it was Tony that pointed out that the uncontrollable laughter is probably the Jack Napier Joker gas. Not Jack Daw. Blonde man who’s been swinging his swords and opening portals, again not Jack Daw. For fuck’s sake.
I get that it’s a hard game at the moment because everyone seems townish at one point or another, but one (or maybe two) of you are doing an insanely good job at being deceptive.
SOMEBODY IS LYING
*rolls up sleeves*Epignosis wrote: ↑Mon Jul 20, 2020 4:09 pm Kitsu made a post that accused me of using my role (or rather, the knowledge implied in my role) suboptimally but in the same sentence implied that I am "acting" (i.e., lying). Both cannot be true. The next post argues that JJJ can't be who he says he is because of there being a "plethora of Jacks." Another post leaves open the door for Long Con to be a liar. That post in particular says "someone here is lying." The use of the singular subject implies Kitsu knows there is only one liar (indeed, the text that follows this declaration implies it further- but contrast that wording with this post). This post passes the buck to TonyStarkPrime (and DrWilgy) for nutella eating Kitsu's vote, but at no point does Kitsu attempt to figure nutella out independently of those two things. This post implies suspicion of Wisp.
Everybody is bad means somebody is caught.
Like, i don’t even get where the question of if I’m a poisoner comes from. A two second google search will tell you what you need to know about Jack Daw, and there is zero to do with poisoning.JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Mon Jul 20, 2020 2:40 pm I mean, if Kitsu isn't a poisoner and Wisp/his checks are to be trusted, then the poisoner must be sabie.
I wish that deduction felt more comfortable than it does.
I think the poisoning might be the mafia hit, which doesn't show up until end of the next day.Long Con wrote: ↑Mon Jul 20, 2020 2:29 pmI thought that I was the best doctor ever. When things started getting narrow down and it seemed like there was no Mafia kill, I already had my tuxedo on for this year's Sockys.JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Mon Jul 20, 2020 12:46 pmDo you have any other reads?Long Con wrote: ↑Mon Jul 20, 2020 12:40 pmCompletely untrue. I listened, I read, and I didn't believe you.JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Mon Jul 20, 2020 12:08 pmTake note post-game that after throwing a massive fit about my suspicion of you in this game, you failed to listen to a thing I said at any juncture.
I never want to hear you complain again.
Then I didn't even send in a protect last night, and there was still no kill. I hadn't totally believe in the idea that there was no Mafia in this game, but what am I supposed to do with that?
If there's no Mafia, then I don't know who we have to kill, it could be anybody. You are the one I have suspected the most, maybe you are the only one we have to kill. I don't know. I don't know what else to go on oh, but my guts, at this point.
If that's the literal best that you can do, then I welcome oblivion.JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Mon Jul 20, 2020 2:22 pm I do agree this feels like a crapshoot though. We have exactly nothing to go on and any chop here feels like a shrug to me. The literal best I can do is "the Day 2 poll told me to chop Kitsu".
I still think Epi is bad, and I will die on that hill. But even if I'm not yeeted today, I don't want to target anyone else and get the ????. That's driving me nuts not knowing what FG & Colin's alignments were. If you're going to trust all of Wisp's check (they were the ones that were insane Jack Torrance, too, correct?) then that leaves what, two people left who could be the poisoner and the blonde non-Jack?
Does it, though? It asks a question, who killed FG & Nanook? Why wouldn’t the town want to know why a player was killed? Like, the day ones ask which Jack has to go? I’m curious as to how you think a question equates to a death sentence.JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sun Jul 19, 2020 10:36 pmJack’s Day 2 poll tells us (implicitly) to vote for the player that killed Funnygurl.sabie12 wrote: ↑Sun Jul 19, 2020 10:34 pmWhat are you asking?JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sun Jul 19, 2020 10:25 pm General question to anyone that has not yet addressed it. Is there more to the game than this?
KitsuShel wrote: ↑Thu Jul 16, 2020 3:16 pmI’m Jack Daw and I’m town. The downside to my Vig is that the kills are janitored due to the bullets being untraceable. So Agent Graves comes in afterward and cleans up the mess. (The heart attack scenes)JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Thu Jul 16, 2020 2:53 pmIt might be. I have a theory about who you are and what you do, and it'd be nice to know whether or not I am on point.
I chose FG night one because that was the town’s general consensus. I only have an action every other night, but I would’ve holstered anyway because the consensus wanted the vig to hold off if they knew they were janitoring. Last night, I again went with the suggestion of the town and chose Colin.
*Facts not fatsKitsuShel wrote: ↑Sun Jul 19, 2020 7:10 pmIs that because you’re teamed with him? Hmmm.
I see y’all still saying that taking out your names Vig, who’s clearly shown in the write ups, over finding out WHICH ONE OF YOU GUYS is lying.
You lynch me, fine. You lose another town member and that will still leave the blonde non-Jack and the Joker. When you blatantly ignore those two fats, that makes me think you’re not on the up and up.
Y’all are making want to give up and honestly pat the mafia on their backs for such clever game play.
Is that because you’re teamed with him? Hmmm.
I see y’all still saying that taking out your names Vig, who’s clearly shown in the write ups, over finding out WHICH ONE OF YOU GUYS is lying.
I regretted that as soon as I posted it, lol. I’m just frustrated, and that’s no one’s fault, so I didn’t need to lash out like that. It means this has been a hella interesting/frustrating game. No matter how the game ends, I’m happy to have been a part of it and experience a different playstyle. When you play with the same people allJaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sun Jul 19, 2020 1:06 pm Evil-doers saying things that mean are a rare breed. They exist, but they're a certain type of character. I don't know whether Kitsu is that type, but it isn't the vibe I'd been getting before.
Again, I’m rushing through reading and idfk why but I read Sabie instead of Daisy.JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sun Jul 19, 2020 12:48 pmRight, but what you originally said was this:
Given what Wisp said and your response to it, I struggle to believe that "sabie" was really a part of your theory. You weren't talking about sabie. Just drawing from context clues here, "what if they were a team" would have to refer to either nutella/Daisy or nutella/Epignosis.
There’s legit nothing else I can give to you. I claimed before the need to do so occurred, and I’ve targeted people who were suggested by the town, not high probability townspeople. If that’s how a mafia is supposed to act, then I sure did a shitty job.Wisp wrote: ↑Sun Jul 19, 2020 12:33 pm
If Epi is a wolf, that means that Nutella interfered with my ability?
so a godfather/Framer duo?
guess that could explain why it doesn't feel like anyone else was redirected?
then we got Kitsu who is a killing role, that has given me nothing that makes me think they are town, and the flavor points to them being bad
People are dying at EoDs that arent the lynch, which points to a prisoner, that has to be somewhere
/shrug
Meaning what if Sabie was on a team with Nutella.JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sun Jul 19, 2020 12:42 pmEh?
Where did sabie come up in your exchange with Wisp?
Maybe that’s not their ability. They never mentioned who they picked as the tie breaker until after Jack announced the yeet.Wisp wrote: ↑Sun Jul 19, 2020 12:39 pmwhat, then wtf is the point of their ability?
Oh sure, *now* you want to dig into flavor. (Teasing...or am I?)JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sun Jul 19, 2020 12:28 pm @KitsuShel why do you think Jack indicated in the Day 2 poll that we should be looking for you?
What if they were a team? That would make sense to me. Even if you lynch me and I was scum (which I am definitely not), that would still leave you with your poisoner and the blonde guy.
I was being over emotional because I took that post and (still Do as an afront), but I should’ve just kept that to myself. Same with the dig about POE, so I apologize.JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sun Jul 19, 2020 7:50 amI've never had any intention of insulting the Realms or any other forum. When I said I felt ridiculous, I meant that I am not good at interpreting flavor. I was literally asking a Realms native to take the wheel on that front because I would not do a very good job of it.
I don't know why you just brought up that post. What's your point?
It depends on what the role says. If it’s a mafia poisoner, you still do the same targets. If you’re a 3P poisoner, it depends on your win condition. I’m not the poisoner, so I don’t know.JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sun Jul 19, 2020 7:47 amThere are no mafia. This is meaningless.KitsuShel wrote: ↑Sun Jul 19, 2020 7:17 amEither you have a scum role or you enjoy pointless questions, lol.
If you’re mafia, you take out the most town-like people first. Or the most helpful town roles (cop, dr, etc) as said roles become known. You throw the SK under the bus once they become known to you, unless you can use them to your advantage.
You and Hally have been in my towncore since day one. And you’re still alive.
What do you do if you're a poisoner?
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sat Jul 18, 2020 1:48 am Probably one non-civilian in the game, a poisoner.
It isn't me.
Okay. Thanks for your efforts @Spacedaisy and @TonyStarkPrime
TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Sat Jul 18, 2020 12:51 am (maybe) dying words: chop nutella for being suspicious
Unless you both were working together. I still find it kinda insane that the cop didn’t go after night 2. Same once Long Con was outed as the dr.
[mention]JaggedJimmyJay[/mention] Still feel ridiculous or have the need to insult another forum’s playstyle?TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Thu Jul 16, 2020 4:11 pmI'm still thinking Epi. We might need more of a claim there.JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Thu Jul 16, 2020 4:09 pm You tell me HCRealms. I feel ridiculous trying to do this
So, maybe we have two people left and lying. The blond non-Jack and possibly Jack Napier.TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Thu Jul 16, 2020 4:12 pm The targets both point to Daw as vig. I made it very clear on both night 1 and night 3 that the vig should shoot the people who were
This is Jack Napier and possibly Genocide Jack.Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Mon Jul 06, 2020 10:12 pm
The incredibly good looking man sat at his laptop, writing a story. It had been a long time since he had handed off the reins of the RPSC to nobody at all. After his daughter was born, writing just hadn’t seemed so The handsome man began to shake uncontrollably. He fell out of his chair and convulsed on the ground until a piece of something flew out of him and became another him. He looked up at the new him in front of him and the handsome man laughed and laughed, a maniacal dangerous laugh. Another him left him.
“What’s wrong with mhee ho?” the handsome man asked.
“Nothing,” the third handsome man said, grinning from ear to ear. He reached his hand out to help his original self up. “You just need a little rest.”
When the first took the third’s hand, electricity shot through his entire body, frying him alive. The second and third smiled to each other.
“After you,” the second said.
“Why thank you,” the third replied with a chuckle. And then they were gone, leaving the handsome man’s body lying on the floor.
Either you have a scum role or you enjoy pointless questions, lol.
If I wasn’t town, I’d have taken out Hally sooner and JJJ (if I knew for sure he was town).
If I’d have left my vote on you, Tony wouldn’t have been yeeted.Epignosis wrote: ↑Sat Jul 18, 2020 9:42 pmFirst, your vote wouldn't have accomplished anything.KitsuShel wrote: ↑Sat Jul 18, 2020 9:04 pmAnd I responded each and every time that I’m the town vig, and I can only make a kill every other night. I’d suggest that you reread the flavor in the write ups, but then I’m sure I’d just hear about how much you guys here don’t “do”/“like” that sort of thing.sabie12 wrote: ↑Sat Jul 18, 2020 8:48 pmI've shared my thoughts on this. I feel like her role sounds like 3p or mafia more than town.JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sat Jul 18, 2020 7:35 pm Is there a good reason I should believe Kitsu is not an enemy of the civilian faction?
I’m going to constantly kicking myself for not keeping my vote on Epi. I had such a strong feeling that if Alison flopped town, then Epi was maf. I’m mad that I let myself be swayed.
Second, you can kill me. Why haven't you?
And I responded each and every time that I’m the town vig, and I can only make a kill every other night. I’d suggest that you reread the flavor in the write ups, but then I’m sure I’d just hear about how much you guys here don’t “do”/“like” that sort of thing.sabie12 wrote: ↑Sat Jul 18, 2020 8:48 pmI've shared my thoughts on this. I feel like her role sounds like 3p or mafia more than town.JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sat Jul 18, 2020 7:35 pm Is there a good reason I should believe Kitsu is not an enemy of the civilian faction?
I *am* town and it absolutely is. Not being able to see the flip for those shots throws everything out whack. But would it be better to not have those people taken out the POE then?
There might be something shifty going on with that theory. I re-read my role and while it specifies that I’m town, it doesn’t mention anything about a win condition. I didn’t think about it sooner, but I don’t think I’ve ever played in a game where it didn’t tell me “You win when x,y, or z happen.”sabie12 wrote: ↑Fri Jul 17, 2020 8:06 pmI think if your theory is correct and there's no mafia and we need to get rid of threats to town then yes. I can also see why people are voting tony and that makes sense as a chop too. Him bringing up the soup kill thing and being adamant about knowing who people are ehhh. I'm having a hard time deciding. I think we may be entering monsters are due on maple street territory now but not sure.
Just got a tattoo feeling a little drained. I ordered some food though so hopefully that'll help.
I mean, sure knock yourself out. This is why I didn’t say anything sooner, and I guess should’ve stayed quiet. But I figure at this point, cooperation is what will help us win.JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Fri Jul 17, 2020 7:59 pmSo to be clear: do you think Kitsu should be chopped?sabie12 wrote: ↑Fri Jul 17, 2020 7:48 pmI mean I always thought janitor kills were a mafia thing or 3p. And kitsu has been admitted to killing players. I don't know if she got results and isn't sharing them? I find it weird a town vig is a miller and janitors kills.JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Fri Jul 17, 2020 7:40 pm @KitsuShel @sabie12 what are your reads on one another?
I think it’s one of the weaker claims here tbh. Like, who does that power even help? It feels kind null to me.JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Fri Jul 17, 2020 7:40 pm @KitsuShel @sabie12 what are your reads on one another?
Wait. So Epi just admitted he knew there was a poisoner, and only didn’t tell anyone and it just slides by? I’m hella confused.
But I didn’t do anything? I’m not the old man nor the blond one.JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Thu Jul 16, 2020 8:36 pmThe old man appears in the writeup every night. Night 2:
I'm getting the impression Kitsu does something every night.Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Sun Jul 12, 2020 10:02 pm Night 2
The blonde man took a sip of his wine.
The old man took a sip of his vodka.
The blonde man took a sip of his wine.
The old man took a sip of his vodka.
Nobody has died.
There’s also this:KitsuShel wrote: ↑Thu Jul 16, 2020 4:42 pmWhich is why I’m starting to think it’s not a Jack character. But searching for “characters who open sword portals” is just as futile, lol.TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Thu Jul 16, 2020 4:34 pm I dunno but the google searches for "jack" "sword portals" are proving pretty inconclusive
Which is why I’m starting to think it’s not a Jack character. But searching for “characters who open sword portals” is just as futile, lol.TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Thu Jul 16, 2020 4:34 pm I dunno but the google searches for "jack" "sword portals" are proving pretty inconclusive
Interesting... I’ve never come across a role like that before.TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Thu Jul 16, 2020 4:35 pmAn anti claim mechanism by which the mafia can kill someone or sometimes multiple people if the mafia can guess their role / power.
