Jack Attack Mafia (Day 5)

[Epignosis]

Cool.

[Millium]

Is anyone gunna claim killing Funny? Speak now or forever hold your peace

[JaggedJimmyJay]

Cool.

Do you believe there is a mafia team?

[JaggedJimmyJay]

Honestly I forgot Sabie is in this game "again"
at this point I am just sheeping JJJ's read on that slot, cause IDK what I could pull out of it that makes my eyes sparkle

My read means little if we're only dealing with independent(s). Any town read can be that.

[Millium]

Two people claimed town and flipped ??? roles, so either they didnt know, or they are baddies

[Millium]

Honestly I forgot Sabie is in this game "again"
at this point I am just sheeping JJJ's read on that slot, cause IDK what I could pull out of it that makes my eyes sparkle

My read means little if we're only dealing with independent(s). Any town read can be that.

idk if I am ready to believe that

[JaggedJimmyJay]

If Wisp is not lying about his role, and if his role has provided correct results, then the only teams left must feature:

Funnygurl555
ColinIsCool
sabie12
KitsuShel
Spacedaisy
TonyStarkPrime

If you believe Spacedaisy and trust her results, then remove both her and Tony.

Y'all can see then why I am losing faith that there even is a team. Either we're meant to assume Jack sent lies to Wisp and somehow figure that out, or some awkward team must exist in that pile. If my logic is correct.

[JaggedJimmyJay]

somewhere we're meant to figure that out*

[JaggedJimmyJay]

I mean we have reason to believe there hasn't been a single mafia night kill and it's Day 4.

Unless we're to suggest the mafia killed Colin. Nobody is claiming the kill I guess.

[JaggedJimmyJay]

[VOTE: sabie12] aubergine

[Long Con]

I could still chop Tony out of some desperate clinging to a hope that this is a Mafia game. Otherwise though I feel like I have made 800 meaningless posts.

Shove that up your POE.

I rust Wisp's role is legit, because he got my role correct. They Hally-SD-Wisp cross-mojonation on Night 1 was particularly convincing for me.

A "miller team" is not out of the question. Also possible that or Doctor is awesome and has protected the right person multiple times, obscuring the existence of a Mafia team.

[JaggedJimmyJay]

I could still chop Tony out of some desperate clinging to a hope that this is a Mafia game. Otherwise though I feel like I have made 800 meaningless posts.

Shove that up your POE.

I rust Wisp's role is legit, because he got my role correct. They Hally-SD-Wisp cross-mojonation on Night 1 was particularly convincing for me.

A "miller team" is not out of the question. Also possible that or Doctor is awesome and has protected the right person multiple times, obscuring the existence of a Mafia team.

If there is no mafia, there is no appropriate method to solve this game. It's an exercise in randomization.

[JaggedJimmyJay]

When it comes to hunting for the definitely totally existent mafia team, I have nothing better than:

Tony fits with Colin. Colin could be mafia. Tony could be a conditional godfather instead of a conditional miller.

[Long Con]

I could still chop Tony out of some desperate clinging to a hope that this is a Mafia game. Otherwise though I feel like I have made 800 meaningless posts.

Shove that up your POE.

I rust Wisp's role is legit, because he got my role correct. They Hally-SD-Wisp cross-mojonation on Night 1 was particularly convincing for me.

A "miller team" is not out of the question. Also possible that or Doctor is awesome and has protected the right person multiple times, obscuring the existence of a Mafia team.

If there is no mafia, there is no appropriate method to solve this game. It's an exercise in randomization.

No. Context clues, leaps of intuition. Let's kill some millers? I absolutely 100% guarantee to you that my role is a) town, and b) exactly as Wisp saw. Beyond that, I don't know how evil Jack can be. There IS a Civilian faction, that I know.

[VOTE: JJJ] aubergine You sound like you want out. Also, you're bad.

[JaggedJimmyJay]

If I were bad in this nonsense, I would not want out. I would just sit here and wait for my free win.

[JaggedJimmyJay]

I'm frankly surprised I seem to be the only person at this conclusion.

[Millium]

at the miller claims, I've been thinking its a possibility for a while
who do we have left as a miller claim?

[JaggedJimmyJay]

at the miller claims, I've been thinking its a possibility for a while
who do we have left as a miller claim?

Kitsu
Tony

[JaggedJimmyJay]

Alison and Hally were both innocent miller claims.

[Long Con]

Tony was the second Miller claim, and I am inclined to believe it, because how could he know that there were going to be more? Being second, as a fake, is amazingly intuitive if that's the case.

[JaggedJimmyJay]

Tony was the second Miller claim, and I am inclined to believe it, because how could he know that there were going to be more? Being second, as a fake, is amazingly intuitive if that's the case.

If there’s a mafia they we’re probably told there’s some sort of miller theme among the civilians.

[JaggedJimmyJay]

[mention]TonyStarkPrime[/mention] why did you elect to claim when you did?

[Spacedaisy]

or Daisy made this whole shit up for shit and giggles, which I still dont believe

I wish I was that creative

[Long Con]

Tony was the second Miller claim, and I am inclined to believe it, because how could he know that there were going to be more? Being second, as a fake, is amazingly intuitive if that's the case.

If there’s a mafia they we’re probably told there’s some sort of miller theme among the civilians.

I disagree that that could be called probable. I do understand that you're trying to keep suspicion on Tony, so my post would work counter to that.

[JaggedJimmyJay]

Tony was the second Miller claim, and I am inclined to believe it, because how could he know that there were going to be more? Being second, as a fake, is amazingly intuitive if that's the case.

If there’s a mafia they we’re probably told there’s some sort of miller theme among the civilians.

I disagree that that could be called probable. I do understand that you're trying to keep suspicion on Tony, so my post would work counter to that.

I don't care if you suspect me. I don't even know if there's a mafia, so forgive me if I view that suspicion of me being mafia as being meaningless.

If there is a mafia, then the game is broken if what I said is untrue. All the millers have to do is claim and half the game is cleared.

[JaggedJimmyJay]

[VOTE: TonyStarkPrime] aubergine

[Long Con]

That makes no sense too, the mafia can just claim Miller as well in that situation.

[JaggedJimmyJay]

That makes no sense too, the mafia can just claim Miller as well in that situation.

Only once they recognize the situation exists

[Long Con]

I have to leave until Sunday. I will try to check in, but I'll be at a cottage with no internet. I can drive into town and get some, so I'll do that to get necessary game stuff done. Just don't expect me to be in the thread. Good luck folks!

[nutella]

If Nutella really targeted me, then I don't see how the role pm I got could possibly be mistaken
Which means Epi is town

"Jack Sheppard - Town"
for the sake of clarity

What if we are just dancing around like headless chickens, and the mafia are just the ??? peeps?

I mean, have we discounted the possibility that even with me targeting you, you receive fakeclaims? That doesn't *seem* right but just want to think through all angles here


Probably there isn't a wolfteam tho lmao

[nutella]

hrrrrnnngggg
[VOTE: tonystarkprime] aubergine

[JaggedJimmyJay]

Tony, you didn't like the way I handled my role claim. My role is crippled, at least partially. I claimed it immediately when the game started.

Your role is crippled, at least partially. You claimed it immediately when the game started (at least right after Hally claimed).

you're a suspect because like six people are borderline town confirmed and if the scum team and 3P aren't included in the 4 people below me in the poe and epi then I think you're next. Also I don't like how you handled your role claim. I'm a hundred percent on board with the way you're conducting the game thusfar, but I have to keep reality in mind.

Imagine you draw the role I've claimed. What do you do with it?

absolutely nothing.

what gives

[KitsuShel]

I said to Hally the other day that I’d name claim of I survived last night and I keep my word. Is that something that would be preferable at this point?

[Millium]

What if Tony is a godfather

[Millium]

[VOTE: TSP] aubergine

[Millium]

I am just trying to understand what he means by conditional, and then how he forgets?

[JaggedJimmyJay]

Only thing stuck in my craw about a godfather Tony is "why does a godfather that checks as town claim to be a miller that checks as mafia?"

But if it's condition, then it is pretty much both anyway. Condition miller or conditional godfather.

iF tHeRe'S eVeN a MaFiA

[JaggedJimmyJay]

I said to Hally the other day that I’d name claim of I survived last night and I keep my word. Is that something that would be preferable at this point?

It might be. I have a theory about who you are and what you do, and it'd be nice to know whether or not I am on point.

[JaggedJimmyJay]

I'm also hesitant to trust that Daisy's check was even on Tony. If the mafia have a redirector, how does that not get used on one of the checkers?

[KitsuShel]

I said to Hally the other day that I’d name claim of I survived last night and I keep my word. Is that something that would be preferable at this point?

It might be. I have a theory about who you are and what you do, and it'd be nice to know whether or not I am on point.

I’m Jack Daw and I’m town. The downside to my Vig is that the kills are janitored due to the bullets being untraceable. So Agent Graves comes in afterward and cleans up the mess. (The heart attack scenes)

I chose FG night one because that was the town’s general consensus. I only have an action every other night, but I would’ve holstered anyway because the consensus wanted the vig to hold off if they knew they were janitoring. Last night, I again went with the suggestion of the town and chose Colin.

[Millium]

lmao... didn't somebody call this? Janitored vig shots?

[KitsuShel]

I'm also hesitant to trust that Daisy's check was even on Tony. If the mafia have a redirector, how does that not get used on one of the checkers?

I was hesitant with the game play here of pooling a POE on day zero, but at no point should a game ever be reliant upon a cop. Because there are many different factors, especially after you out your role. There’s misdirection or the fact that a cop could be insane/paranoid/naive and get faulty results.

While I’m not discounting Wisp or Daisy, I’m also not trusting any results as if they’re set in stone.

[KitsuShel]

lmao... didn't somebody call this? Janitored vig shots?

I definitely remember hinting/suggesting at an earlier point that the bullets were the reason for the janitoring.

[Millium]

well there goes my theory that ???'s were wolves

[KitsuShel]

well there goes my theory that ???'s were wolves

They were in the POE, so there’s a dam good chance they probably were scummy.

[JaggedJimmyJay]

Yeah I had Kitsu pegged as the Question Mark Killer. That's why I suggested there is potential for third party there.

[JaggedJimmyJay]

Kitsu killed FG and Colin
Pawn killed Nanook

"Mafia" killed nobody first, then nobody the second time, and then nobody after that.

[JaggedJimmyJay]

If you're town, Kitsu, you were right to shoot people. Even if it's janitored, your role is a powerful that should not just be holstered.

[Millium]

well given what Epi isssssss
I can infer they are doing something, or at least someone is

[Millium]

better then doing nothing like Colin, which wasn't townie in the slightest