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- Sat Feb 26, 2022 5:37 pm
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- Sun Feb 13, 2022 6:51 pm
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Not sure how the soup mech worked but i was hoping to soft claim as a watcher
- Sun Feb 13, 2022 6:31 pm
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Glad I got there on dyaCreature wrote: ↑Sun Feb 13, 2022 6:29 pmI sorta had it POEd down to you and Sloonei the last night so it definitely would've been hell.Justplayingitcool wrote: ↑Sun Feb 13, 2022 6:25 pm Im glad this game ended when it dis because thought for sure i’d be spending most of it defending myself
I can take solace that I didn’t play like a complete ass
- Sun Feb 13, 2022 6:25 pm
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Im glad this game ended when it dis because thought for sure i’d be spending most of it defending myself
- Sun Feb 13, 2022 6:23 pm
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- Sat Feb 12, 2022 5:17 pm
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Why do i look worse and bot a pocket attempt?
- Sat Feb 12, 2022 4:48 pm
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- Sat Feb 12, 2022 4:46 pm
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- Sat Feb 12, 2022 2:35 pm
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Alexa and sabie wouldn't have known that mac would have been shot if we live in a world where they are both scum. I think it's entirely possible they did it for cred because there was a good chance mac would have been yeeted.Belzy wrote: ↑Sat Feb 12, 2022 2:28 pmSo Alexa and Sabie both joined me on shooting Mac, cuz Mac was about to be shot anyways?Creature wrote: ↑Sat Feb 12, 2022 2:26 pmYeah, I believe if dya is wolf they are more likely with sabieJustplayingitcool wrote: ↑Sat Feb 12, 2022 2:24 pmMy only pause is they are defending sabie, a slot that was in the PoE and would have been a free misyeetBelzy wrote: ↑Sat Feb 12, 2022 2:23 pmAgreed.Justplayingitcool wrote: ↑Sat Feb 12, 2022 2:21 pm I know Dya has been having stuff going on irl. But I think it would be a mistake to let that slot skate-by
If they didn't shot Marmot, i would scumread Dya for sure. So maybe it is Dya afterall.
Is Dya+LP a thing?
Only thing I don't get is the entire Pao thing, unless that was done to make them look unaligned? But that would be basically sacrificing two mafias
- Sat Feb 12, 2022 2:32 pm
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Yeah but this all requires the knowledge of his wincon being completely factual and not made up. It's not even clear to me now if there was still potential for ilario to inherit the factional killSloonei wrote: ↑Sat Feb 12, 2022 2:25 pmSo ilario would have needed to remain in the game for several phases after killing alexa in order for this to happen. And if it did happen, we would all know it right away. But it would not likely happen because he told us he would disappear from the game after killing alexa if she flipped mafia. If she flipped town, ilario basically would have had no win condition. If she flipped mafia and he stayed in the game, he’d have a very slim win condition.Justplayingitcool wrote: ↑Sat Feb 12, 2022 2:19 pmIf the wolves are all dead and the game was still going onSloonei wrote: ↑Sat Feb 12, 2022 2:18 pm Actually, before I articulate my concern, I need to ask a question first.In what scenario could ilario "inherit the mafia kill"?Justplayingitcool wrote: ↑Sat Feb 12, 2022 1:52 pm I didn't trust anything Ilario said. I didn't trust the 3p won't inherit the mafia kill because that definitely didn't blow up in my face before.
If ilario’s win condition required him to survive for an extensive period of time after poisomkng alexa, then it never made sense for him to claim the way he did.
Now to get to the point I was originally going to object to here: your fear about ilario inheriting the mafia kill would imply confidence in alexa flipping mafia.
And no, not really. I had very minor doubts about alexa but they weren't particularly strong. When the modkill happened I thought Alexa was going to flip town. Ilario even thought the same as well with his reaction. There was still the possibility of alexa flipping town, and we could have killed other wolves in the town!alexa world.
I get my reaction was irrational but that doesn't mean I'm scummy for it because there was context for why I reacted the way I did. I get your point completely if GoC didn't happen last year the way it did.
- Sat Feb 12, 2022 2:26 pm
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also, sorry for being grouchy
- Sat Feb 12, 2022 2:25 pm
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or not free but you know what I mean
- Sat Feb 12, 2022 2:24 pm
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My only pause is they are defending sabie, a slot that was in the PoE and would have been a free misyeetBelzy wrote: ↑Sat Feb 12, 2022 2:23 pmAgreed.Justplayingitcool wrote: ↑Sat Feb 12, 2022 2:21 pm I know Dya has been having stuff going on irl. But I think it would be a mistake to let that slot skate-by
If they didn't shot Marmot, i would scumread Dya for sure. So maybe it is Dya afterall.
Is Dya+LP a thing?
- Sat Feb 12, 2022 2:21 pm
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I know Dya has been having stuff going on irl. But I think it would be a mistake to let that slot skate-by
- Sat Feb 12, 2022 2:19 pm
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If the wolves are all dead and the game was still going onSloonei wrote: ↑Sat Feb 12, 2022 2:18 pm Actually, before I articulate my concern, I need to ask a question first.In what scenario could ilario "inherit the mafia kill"?Justplayingitcool wrote: ↑Sat Feb 12, 2022 1:52 pm I didn't trust anything Ilario said. I didn't trust the 3p won't inherit the mafia kill because that definitely didn't blow up in my face before.
- Sat Feb 12, 2022 2:19 pm
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You're again discounting the possibility that town makes irrational reactionsSloonei wrote: ↑Sat Feb 12, 2022 2:16 pmWe knew that Alexa was poisoned. We knew that ilario claimed responsibility. We knew what ilario had told us about his role. We did not know whether it was possible for alexa to be healed.Justplayingitcool wrote: ↑Sat Feb 12, 2022 2:06 pm Are you telling me every townie you have played with has a reaction that makes 'sense'.
B) that isn't true because Alexa could have been healed.
"All we were being asked to do was believe him or not believe him with regards to Alexa." - and I chose not to trust him
In the world where alexa was healed, ilario's attempt to achieve his 3p goal would have failed. In which case, he'd be stuck in the thread having outed himself completely unnecessarily. ilario was safely in the towncore at the time of his claim. In this world, there is nothing we can do on Day 4 except wait to see what happens to alexa and ilario. This is what I mean when I say "there was nothing we could do to prevent his actions from resolving." Thus, we were never being asked to "trust" ilario in a game-sense. We were only being asked to trust a singular read he had made, and even that was not strictly necessary. "Trusting" his alexa read just meant playing that day as though alexa might be mafia, rather than confirmed town. Making a fuss about not trusting ilario just impedes our efforts to flesh out reads in the world where alexa is mafia.
I also have another concern which I'll articulate in a separate post.
- Sat Feb 12, 2022 2:18 pm
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^ we even know as much because falcon attempted to shoot macJustplayingitcool wrote: ↑Sat Feb 12, 2022 2:15 pmMac was never surviving to end gameBelzy wrote: ↑Sat Feb 12, 2022 2:05 pmIf sabie is scum, then i would be surprised Alexa and Sabie agreed both with me to shoot Mac.Justplayingitcool wrote: ↑Sat Feb 12, 2022 1:59 pmSloonei, LP, sabie and DyaBelzy wrote: ↑Sat Feb 12, 2022 1:56 pmHelp us find who if not you.Justplayingitcool wrote: ↑Sat Feb 12, 2022 1:55 pm I am town. Killing me will lose the game.
If your suspects are just me and LP then we have gone wrong somewhere
Dya has cred for the kill on marmot, but I don't see why they can't be the lone wolf
I'm assuming LP is scum
I really doubt creature/falcon are faking their stuff so I am assuming legit.
Dya is hard to say cuz is for personal reasons less involved, and the shot on Marmot could mean anything really.
Sloonei is looking really good today.
- Sat Feb 12, 2022 2:15 pm
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Mac was never surviving to end gameBelzy wrote: ↑Sat Feb 12, 2022 2:05 pmIf sabie is scum, then i would be surprised Alexa and Sabie agreed both with me to shoot Mac.Justplayingitcool wrote: ↑Sat Feb 12, 2022 1:59 pmSloonei, LP, sabie and DyaBelzy wrote: ↑Sat Feb 12, 2022 1:56 pmHelp us find who if not you.Justplayingitcool wrote: ↑Sat Feb 12, 2022 1:55 pm I am town. Killing me will lose the game.
If your suspects are just me and LP then we have gone wrong somewhere
Dya has cred for the kill on marmot, but I don't see why they can't be the lone wolf
I'm assuming LP is scum
I really doubt creature/falcon are faking their stuff so I am assuming legit.
Dya is hard to say cuz is for personal reasons less involved, and the shot on Marmot could mean anything really.
Sloonei is looking really good today.
- Sat Feb 12, 2022 2:12 pm
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I am town. what do you want me to do to prove my towniness
- Sat Feb 12, 2022 2:10 pm
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OK, but I am town. I'm just saying that I am completely out of my scum rangeBelzy wrote: ↑Sat Feb 12, 2022 2:08 pmI actually have good games with people i never met before. The current game is most crucial for its solving. Scummy play is scummy play. We got over 10k posts to work with, a lot of voting pattern. Don't try to draw attention away from your scummy game which is this one.Justplayingitcool wrote: ↑Sat Feb 12, 2022 2:06 pmSo you don't use meta reads at all?Belzy wrote: ↑Sat Feb 12, 2022 2:05 pmI am playing this game.Justplayingitcool wrote: ↑Sat Feb 12, 2022 2:03 pm Have any of you actually read my past mafia games?
- Sat Feb 12, 2022 2:08 pm
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I did not even bother to submit in the poetry contest. Same with the walrus
- Sat Feb 12, 2022 2:06 pm
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So you don't use meta reads at all?Belzy wrote: ↑Sat Feb 12, 2022 2:05 pmI am playing this game.Justplayingitcool wrote: ↑Sat Feb 12, 2022 2:03 pm Have any of you actually read my past mafia games?
- Sat Feb 12, 2022 2:06 pm
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Are you telling me every townie you have played with has a reaction that makes 'sense'.Sloonei wrote: ↑Sat Feb 12, 2022 2:03 pmIlario wasn't going to inherit the nightkill that night in any world anyway. There were still two mafia left after alexa. If ilario did not vanish from the game after killing alexa, we would have known that he was lying and would have had as much of an opportunity to eliminate him as before. My argument here is that it never made sense to react the way that you did to ilario because A) he was not asking us to "trust him", and B) there was nothing we could do to prevent his actions from resolving anyway. All we were being asked to do was believe him or not believe him with regards to Alexa.Justplayingitcool wrote: ↑Sat Feb 12, 2022 1:52 pm I didn't trust anything Ilario said. I didn't trust the 3p won't inherit the mafia kill because that definitely didn't blow up in my face before. Again, look at my reaction to HK and tell me there was a difference.
I'm not gonna argue about my reaction because it's frankly fucking silly.
You seemed to be at least entertaining suspicion against alexa prior to ilario's claim. After the claim, your attention shifted to distrusting ilario.
B) that isn't true because Alexa could have been healed.
"All we were being asked to do was believe him or not believe him with regards to Alexa." - and I chose not to trust him
- Sat Feb 12, 2022 2:03 pm
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Have any of you actually read my past mafia games?
- Sat Feb 12, 2022 2:01 pm
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- Sat Feb 12, 2022 2:00 pm
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- Sat Feb 12, 2022 1:59 pm
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Sloonei, LP, sabie and DyaBelzy wrote: ↑Sat Feb 12, 2022 1:56 pmHelp us find who if not you.Justplayingitcool wrote: ↑Sat Feb 12, 2022 1:55 pm I am town. Killing me will lose the game.
If your suspects are just me and LP then we have gone wrong somewhere
Dya has cred for the kill on marmot, but I don't see why they can't be the lone wolf
I'm assuming LP is scum
I really doubt creature/falcon are faking their stuff so I am assuming legit.
- Sat Feb 12, 2022 1:56 pm
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ok. lynch me thenBelzy wrote: ↑Sat Feb 12, 2022 1:56 pmLolJustplayingitcool wrote: ↑Sat Feb 12, 2022 1:55 pmWho would have thought in a game where towns are the majorityBelzy wrote: ↑Sat Feb 12, 2022 1:54 pmYou voted for a lot of townies.Justplayingitcool wrote: ↑Sat Feb 12, 2022 1:53 pmI scumread marmot, HK and TSP. The jpic only votes townies is bsBelzy wrote: ↑Sat Feb 12, 2022 1:48 pmYes, i said that is my worst read of the game. .Justplayingitcool wrote: ↑Sat Feb 12, 2022 1:45 pmYou called Alexa town and paopan a wolf as well of im not mistakenBelzy wrote: ↑Sat Feb 12, 2022 1:44 pm
I have iso'd jpic some more. Just like the first few days, also the more recent days, jpic just keeps voting for town, and actually, jpic may have voted for tsp, but without tsp getting lynched, so maybe that was worth the distance vote. And see my previous Qfr post: the way jpic voted for tsp, was very pocket-y
I am back to Lp and Jpic. That originally instinct i started this game day with was right probably
I scumread Dizzy (tried to push for his death all game long until he got shot), Marmot (linking to Dizzy), HK (3p, so okay), TSP (voted there, okay, you did too, but that is all you did*), Mac (shot him)
*rest was just voting townies
But nice try. This post is scummy lol
You don't respond well to pressure.
- Sat Feb 12, 2022 1:55 pm
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Who would have thought in a game where towns are the majorityBelzy wrote: ↑Sat Feb 12, 2022 1:54 pmYou voted for a lot of townies.Justplayingitcool wrote: ↑Sat Feb 12, 2022 1:53 pmI scumread marmot, HK and TSP. The jpic only votes townies is bsBelzy wrote: ↑Sat Feb 12, 2022 1:48 pmYes, i said that is my worst read of the game. .Justplayingitcool wrote: ↑Sat Feb 12, 2022 1:45 pmYou called Alexa town and paopan a wolf as well of im not mistakenBelzy wrote: ↑Sat Feb 12, 2022 1:44 pmI have iso'd jpic some more. Just like the first few days, also the more recent days, jpic just keeps voting for town, and actually, jpic may have voted for tsp, but without tsp getting lynched, so maybe that was worth the distance vote. And see my previous Qfr post: the way jpic voted for tsp, was very pocket-ySloonei wrote: ↑Sat Feb 12, 2022 1:36 pmI have been reading JPIC's ISO but not commenting on it. I was surprised at how underwhelming his TSP interactions were this time around. Granted, I am reading him through the lens of him being mafia right now.
He consistently suggests that TSP is a suspect, but never makes a real push on him or engages in any meaningful discussion around him. It has plenty of distancing potential.
The TSP interactions are what I initially gave him a town-read for, but I no longer feel that is warranted. None of his interactions with the other flipped wolves are inspiring either. The same can be said of his interactions with LinearPoint.
I am back to Lp and Jpic. That originally instinct i started this game day with was right probably
I scumread Dizzy (tried to push for his death all game long until he got shot), Marmot (linking to Dizzy), HK (3p, so okay), TSP (voted there, okay, you did too, but that is all you did*), Mac (shot him)
*rest was just voting townies
But nice try. This post is scummy lol
- Sat Feb 12, 2022 1:55 pm
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I am town. Killing me will lose the game.
If your suspects are just me and LP then we have gone wrong somewhere
If your suspects are just me and LP then we have gone wrong somewhere
- Sat Feb 12, 2022 1:53 pm
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I scumread marmot, HK and TSP. The jpic only votes townies is bsBelzy wrote: ↑Sat Feb 12, 2022 1:48 pmYes, i said that is my worst read of the game. .Justplayingitcool wrote: ↑Sat Feb 12, 2022 1:45 pmYou called Alexa town and paopan a wolf as well of im not mistakenBelzy wrote: ↑Sat Feb 12, 2022 1:44 pmI have iso'd jpic some more. Just like the first few days, also the more recent days, jpic just keeps voting for town, and actually, jpic may have voted for tsp, but without tsp getting lynched, so maybe that was worth the distance vote. And see my previous Qfr post: the way jpic voted for tsp, was very pocket-ySloonei wrote: ↑Sat Feb 12, 2022 1:36 pmI have been reading JPIC's ISO but not commenting on it. I was surprised at how underwhelming his TSP interactions were this time around. Granted, I am reading him through the lens of him being mafia right now.
He consistently suggests that TSP is a suspect, but never makes a real push on him or engages in any meaningful discussion around him. It has plenty of distancing potential.
The TSP interactions are what I initially gave him a town-read for, but I no longer feel that is warranted. None of his interactions with the other flipped wolves are inspiring either. The same can be said of his interactions with LinearPoint.
I am back to Lp and Jpic. That originally instinct i started this game day with was right probably
I scumread Dizzy (tried to push for his death all game long until he got shot), Marmot (linking to Dizzy), HK (3p, so okay), TSP (voted there, okay, you did too, but that is all you did*), Mac (shot him)
*rest was just voting townies
But nice try. This post is scummy lol
- Sat Feb 12, 2022 1:52 pm
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I didn't trust anything Ilario said. I didn't trust the 3p won't inherit the mafia kill because that definitely didn't blow up in my face before. Again, look at my reaction to HK and tell me there was a difference.Sloonei wrote: ↑Sat Feb 12, 2022 1:48 pmSo... what were you objecting to, exactly?Justplayingitcool wrote: ↑Sat Feb 12, 2022 1:47 pm No, i said we should leave both alexa and ilario alone that day.
Then alexa died from the modkill and i assumed she was going to flip town
I'm not gonna argue about my reaction because it's frankly fucking silly.
- Sat Feb 12, 2022 1:51 pm
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Re: GAME OF CHAMPIONS 2021 D3
I am defensive because you and sloonei are incorrectly reading me as mafia which will lose us the game.Belzy wrote: ↑Sat Feb 12, 2022 1:49 pmJustplayingitcool wrote: ↑Sat Feb 12, 2022 1:48 pmI voted TSP before thisBelzy wrote: ↑Sat Feb 12, 2022 1:42 pmQfrJustplayingitcool wrote: ↑Fri Feb 04, 2022 7:43 pmYou are paranoid![]()
Why so defensive @ a Qfr ? You are defensive.
- Sat Feb 12, 2022 1:48 pm
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I voted TSP before thisBelzy wrote: ↑Sat Feb 12, 2022 1:42 pmQfrJustplayingitcool wrote: ↑Fri Feb 04, 2022 7:43 pmYou are paranoid
- Sat Feb 12, 2022 1:47 pm
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If you say soSloonei wrote: ↑Sat Feb 12, 2022 1:46 pmSkepticism is fine. Your response to ilario specifically felt overblown.Justplayingitcool wrote: ↑Sat Feb 12, 2022 1:44 pmRight so you can see why someone who was in the infamous goc 2020 would be nervous about the 3pSloonei wrote: ↑Sat Feb 12, 2022 1:41 pmYes, I believe that was part of my argument at the time as well.Justplayingitcool wrote: ↑Sat Feb 12, 2022 1:40 pmContext matters.Sloonei wrote: ↑Sat Feb 12, 2022 1:38 pm I also did not like JPIC's reaction to ilario's claim. It felt exaggerated. He was one of the most vocal opponents to the notion of "trusting a 3p." But, as I was arguing at the time, we were not being asked to trust a 3p. ilario poisoned alexa, then presented his argument for doing so, then told us he was 3p. All actions had already been set in motion by the time the claim came out. Jpic's resistance to ilario feels now like a sort of smoke screen to keep us from diving too deeply into the "Alexa is mafia" worldview that day.
Look at my reaction to hk
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No, i said we should leave both alexa and ilario alone that day.Sloonei wrote: ↑Sat Feb 12, 2022 1:45 pmThen we'd be playing a game that is entirely different from the one we're in. Alexa did not flip town. The reason I was willing to listen to ilario was because I believed in his case against alexa. And he turned out to be right.Justplayingitcool wrote: ↑Sat Feb 12, 2022 1:42 pm What if alexa had flipped town (as that was what I was expecting to happen) and ilario was still around. We just blindly allow a 3p running amok in the game
Are you suggesting that we should have voted for ilario that day?
Then alexa died from the modkill and i assumed she was going to flip town
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You called Alexa town and paopan a wolf as well of im not mistakenBelzy wrote: ↑Sat Feb 12, 2022 1:44 pmI have iso'd jpic some more. Just like the first few days, also the more recent days, jpic just keeps voting for town, and actually, jpic may have voted for tsp, but without tsp getting lynched, so maybe that was worth the distance vote. And see my previous Qfr post: the way jpic voted for tsp, was very pocket-ySloonei wrote: ↑Sat Feb 12, 2022 1:36 pmI have been reading JPIC's ISO but not commenting on it. I was surprised at how underwhelming his TSP interactions were this time around. Granted, I am reading him through the lens of him being mafia right now.
He consistently suggests that TSP is a suspect, but never makes a real push on him or engages in any meaningful discussion around him. It has plenty of distancing potential.
The TSP interactions are what I initially gave him a town-read for, but I no longer feel that is warranted. None of his interactions with the other flipped wolves are inspiring either. The same can be said of his interactions with LinearPoint.
I am back to Lp and Jpic. That originally instinct i started this game day with was right probably
- Sat Feb 12, 2022 1:44 pm
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Right so you can see why someone who was in the infamous goc 2020 would be nervous about the 3pSloonei wrote: ↑Sat Feb 12, 2022 1:41 pmYes, I believe that was part of my argument at the time as well.Justplayingitcool wrote: ↑Sat Feb 12, 2022 1:40 pmContext matters.Sloonei wrote: ↑Sat Feb 12, 2022 1:38 pm I also did not like JPIC's reaction to ilario's claim. It felt exaggerated. He was one of the most vocal opponents to the notion of "trusting a 3p." But, as I was arguing at the time, we were not being asked to trust a 3p. ilario poisoned alexa, then presented his argument for doing so, then told us he was 3p. All actions had already been set in motion by the time the claim came out. Jpic's resistance to ilario feels now like a sort of smoke screen to keep us from diving too deeply into the "Alexa is mafia" worldview that day.
Look at my reaction to hk
- Sat Feb 12, 2022 1:42 pm
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What if alexa had flipped town (as that was what I was expecting to happen) and ilario was still around. We just blindly allow a 3p running amok in the game
- Sat Feb 12, 2022 1:40 pm
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Context matters.Sloonei wrote: ↑Sat Feb 12, 2022 1:38 pm I also did not like JPIC's reaction to ilario's claim. It felt exaggerated. He was one of the most vocal opponents to the notion of "trusting a 3p." But, as I was arguing at the time, we were not being asked to trust a 3p. ilario poisoned alexa, then presented his argument for doing so, then told us he was 3p. All actions had already been set in motion by the time the claim came out. Jpic's resistance to ilario feels now like a sort of smoke screen to keep us from diving too deeply into the "Alexa is mafia" worldview that day.
- Sat Feb 12, 2022 10:54 am
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Sloonei i will read your walls once i have recovered from hangover
- Sat Feb 12, 2022 10:51 am
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Im a wolf because I haven’t claimed?Porscha wrote: ↑Sat Feb 12, 2022 1:12 am I dunno I feel like most players except like LP and JPIC are playing with the same assumptions of sabie / dya possible, with LP, JPIC, maybe you (sloon) are in poe.
by way of understanding I see myself, belzy, falcon, and therefore also creature as confirmed town. so unless falcon and creature pull a sick 180 on us then I see us the confirmed town at this moment
I think it's good sabie didnt shoot pao. I know dya shot marmot but it's hard to read them as of recent just due to lack of posts. I feel LP comes off as legit as far as their role and how it interacted with alexa (who I also would have maybe given vest to early on in game) and it might have just been unlucky.
jpic talks townie but they are also only person without some kind of role claim to some degree and unfortunately it just looks kinda bad for them. like idk I feel like also pao could have just revealed and then saved himself from getting voted off and since mafia has *still* not souped then like idk. maybe jpic is goon with no role abilities trying to make it out before even his other teammate tbh. possible neeko is trying same thing by lying about her role and then framing that she role abilities b/c of alexa is possible.
also it's confirmed sabie was vigi nk right? or is it possible she claimed a kill that wasn't hers?
i'm trying to see who could have the most chance of having a no-power role for possible soup, but even you sloon have claimed that you could prove yourself, so unless you're lying too, then I dunno. i'm really on the fence here with the poe
I have hinted at my role, and have provided some mech info from it
- Fri Feb 11, 2022 2:52 pm
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Ok going to the PUB
gtg
gtg
- Fri Feb 11, 2022 2:51 pm
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Same reason why your probably still alive
- Fri Feb 11, 2022 2:50 pm
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Probably being saved for soupfalcon45ca wrote: ↑Fri Feb 11, 2022 2:50 pm Can someone remind me about Belzy & Porscha?
Like, if they're confirmed, why/how, and why are they still alive?
- Fri Feb 11, 2022 2:50 pm
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I guess there’s no point worrying about it until it if gets to that point and the game is still carrying on
- Fri Feb 11, 2022 2:48 pm
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No, he said that he doesn’t take on the factional kill if mafia died. But he could be lying about that part because he was a dirty 3pCreature wrote: ↑Fri Feb 11, 2022 2:47 pmWait did ilario say there was a lost wolf?Justplayingitcool wrote: ↑Fri Feb 11, 2022 2:46 pm Possible one doesn’t exist and ilario lied partly about his wincon
- Fri Feb 11, 2022 2:47 pm
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I hate trains
- Fri Feb 11, 2022 2:46 pm
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Possible one doesn’t exist and ilario lied partly about his wincon
- Fri Feb 11, 2022 2:45 pm
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Im not sure how fruitful talking about a lost wolf is but do we think mafia know who the lost wolf is if there is indeed one?