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by Thunal33
Sat Oct 17, 2020 9:50 am
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Topic: Grasslands [Game Thread]
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Who do you think is lowposting and watching us self destruct in the case we're TvT? LC's not getting away with anything with half the thread on his ass. nanook is unlikely to be a wolf in this gamestate. Do you think it's tutuu? I don't think we've been thunderdoming until these last couple pages. ...
by Thunal33
Sat Oct 17, 2020 9:49 am
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What do you mean how does it advance the threadstate? We're two of the most controversial and talked about players in this thread. Flipping us definitely advances the game. The truth is that now I'm starting to have doubts. You absolutely won't let go of your tunnel and I've seen that behavior more...
by Thunal33
Sat Oct 17, 2020 9:40 am
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Topic: Grasslands [Game Thread]
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I mean it's biased in the sense that you're scumreading a Hally post, saying that Alison looks good and you look bad, and I'm townreading it. Anyway I'm thunderdoming you right now, if nutella wants to resolve her LC crusade today that's cool since he's scummy too (and frankly has scum equity with ...
by Thunal33
Sat Oct 17, 2020 9:30 am
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Topic: Grasslands [Game Thread]
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@Thunal33 would you describe your concern more as: Hally is not listening. or Hally is not listening to Thunal. I'm pretty concerned with the fact that Hally isn't listening to me and that pings me the most but I'm not the only one she isn't listening to. Overall it's more of a concern of "Hal...
by Thunal33
Sat Oct 17, 2020 9:27 am
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Topic: Grasslands [Game Thread]
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[VOTE: Alison] aubergine
by Thunal33
Sat Oct 17, 2020 9:26 am
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Topic: Grasslands [Game Thread]
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Like I thought Hally's recent posts were pretty good and Thunal comes in and calls them naked scum for making those posts. Admittedly both of us are confbiased probably because it serves our interests to view those posts in that manner, but I really do think Thunal was twisting and distorting Hally...
by Thunal33
Sat Oct 17, 2020 9:21 am
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Topic: Grasslands [Game Thread]
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how does that make sense? alison has suspects. her suspects are you and sloonei. why is her having two suspects scummy? like, obviously regardless of her alignment she doesn’t want her suspects to be in the town core. that’s the literal definition of a suspect. how is it any different from you or a...
by Thunal33
Sat Oct 17, 2020 9:19 am
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Topic: Grasslands [Game Thread]
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This is simply not how town!Hally acts towards me. Even when they suspected me (correctly) in Bastard Fiesta they still asked me questions that were open minded (not pointed), valued my opinion, and reevaluated their read on me multiple times. They care about my opinion even more when they townread ...
by Thunal33
Sat Oct 17, 2020 9:09 am
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Topic: Grasslands [Game Thread]
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[VOTE: Hally] aubergine

I don't think I'm ever going to want to change this.
by Thunal33
Sat Oct 17, 2020 9:09 am
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Topic: Grasslands [Game Thread]
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@Sloonei what is lc’s alignment? same question to @Long Con actually - sloonei is [fill in the blank] Sloonei is mafia. In the early game, as I said, I don't have a strong grasp on why people are Town reading or scum reading others, a lot of the time. As a result, my reads in the early game are oft...
by Thunal33
Sat Oct 17, 2020 8:57 am
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Topic: Grasslands [Game Thread]
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page 26 i’m not following you here. you think scum wouldn’t have wanted to change the consensus last day but yet you tr sloonei because he followed the consensus and scum wouldn’t do that. like, how can it be both that scum would do X AND also that it’s twtbaw to do X so they would avoid doing it? ...
by Thunal33
Sat Oct 17, 2020 8:16 am
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Topic: Grasslands [Game Thread]
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JaggedJimmyJay wrote: Fri Oct 16, 2020 10:04 pm BUN TO HEAD GO

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JaggedJimmyJay wrote: Fri Oct 16, 2020 10:08 pm HALLY
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JaggedJimmyJay wrote: Fri Oct 16, 2020 10:10 pm STAYPOSITIVEFRIEND
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by Thunal33
Fri Oct 16, 2020 9:46 pm
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Topic: Grasslands [Game Thread]
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i'm admittedly feeling a little bit stressed because i most likely have to vote/out my final reads tonight (roughly about 12ish hours before the deadline), and i feel like i don't have the time to delve into as many players as i would like. setting that aside, my top suspicions as of right now are ...
by Thunal33
Fri Oct 16, 2020 9:43 pm
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Topic: Grasslands [Game Thread]
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Just leaving this to note that I haven't forgotten about the previous posts addressed to me - I just got caught up in replying to the more recent ones. I'll be working through them as I have the time, and you'll get proper responses. @JJJ - I will note here that a few people have come in and said t...
by Thunal33
Fri Oct 16, 2020 9:41 pm
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Topic: Grasslands [Game Thread]
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Page 24 Some quotes may be trimmed. When I consider universes where Alison is town, process of elimination leads me to some uninspired places, where I feel like I have to default to the most generic suspicions like Long Con and/or Nanook. I hope in the future at some point you will realize I had va...
by Thunal33
Fri Oct 16, 2020 9:39 pm
Forum: Previous Rackets
Topic: Grasslands [Game Thread]
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Page 24 Some quotes may be trimmed. When I consider universes where Alison is town, process of elimination leads me to some uninspired places, where I feel like I have to default to the most generic suspicions like Long Con and/or Nanook. I hope in the future at some point you will realize I had va...
by Thunal33
Fri Oct 16, 2020 9:31 pm
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Topic: Grasslands [Game Thread]
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try again I basically agree with this, yeah Posssibly in Nutella’s range in a m/t argument, it isn’t within her range to argue like that with a partner. Jay should know this imo. Quite frankly I droned out that argument as well as I could because it was so pointless and silly. But yes I agree with ...
by Thunal33
Fri Oct 16, 2020 9:28 pm
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Topic: Grasslands [Game Thread]
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I read through Alison's ISO, and I spent awhile thinking about it. There are posts in there that I liked, but most of those have been early game. A lot of their posts though, I've been feeling neither too particularly towny or scummy. However, I get the feeling that if Alison does have a playstyle ...
by Thunal33
Fri Oct 16, 2020 9:11 pm
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Topic: Grasslands [Game Thread]
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i’m not following you here. you think scum wouldn’t have wanted to change the consensus last day but yet you tr sloonei because he followed the consensus and scum wouldn’t do that. like, how can it be both that scum would do X AND also that it’s twtbaw to do X so they would avoid doing it? this arg...
by Thunal33
Fri Oct 16, 2020 9:06 pm
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Topic: Grasslands [Game Thread]
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Okay, what's the strong evidence that Sloonei was making up his read on Nutella? The strong evidence that Sloonei was making up his read on nutella is that he knows better than to scumread nutella for something that is extremely obviously NAI. Correcting a factual error, or someone else misreading ...
by Thunal33
Fri Oct 16, 2020 9:02 pm
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Topic: Grasslands [Game Thread]
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Hey all. I'm around but I see there's been like 10 notifications addressed to me and I'm not sure I have the time to address all of 'em. I'll be working my way through 'em slowly over the course of the day. I glanced at JJJ's POE chart - I'm a little curious why LC/Martin has high scum compatibilit...
by Thunal33
Fri Oct 16, 2020 8:58 pm
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Topic: Grasslands [Game Thread]
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Hey all. I'm around but I see there's been like 10 notifications addressed to me and I'm not sure I have the time to address all of 'em. I'll be working my way through 'em slowly over the course of the day. I glanced at JJJ's POE chart - I'm a little curious why LC/Martin has high scum compatibilit...
by Thunal33
Fri Oct 16, 2020 7:40 pm
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Topic: Grasslands [Game Thread]
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JaggedJimmyJay do you object to Sloonei being the chop today? At this point, no I don’t. I can poke holes in accusations rendered at Sloonei, but that doesn’t make him a civilian. I should be more secure about him than I am by now. Does that mean you think he's suspicious because you're not secure ...
by Thunal33
Fri Oct 16, 2020 7:31 pm
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Topic: Grasslands [Game Thread]
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How would you feel if Alison flips town? My first emergent thought would be "I may be wrong about Thunal", and I'd view it as a reason to really reassess you and Hally too. Even if I don't follow or feel compelled by her cases, Alison is a capable player whose reads should be given consid...
by Thunal33
Fri Oct 16, 2020 7:30 pm
Forum: Previous Rackets
Topic: Grasslands [Game Thread]
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Page 24 Some quotes may be trimmed. When I consider universes where Alison is town, process of elimination leads me to some uninspired places, where I feel like I have to default to the most generic suspicions like Long Con and/or Nanook. I hope in the future at some point you will realize I had va...
by Thunal33
Fri Oct 16, 2020 5:50 pm
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Topic: Grasslands [Game Thread]
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long con: long con feels like they are barely part of this game, and they seem genuinely unconcerned w/the pressure being put on them. Someone else (Martin) brought up my lack of concern for pressure/suspicion/votes. I'm just really used to it by now, with how games are played these days with stron...
by Thunal33
Fri Oct 16, 2020 5:45 pm
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Topic: Grasslands [Game Thread]
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Blind Interactions https://i.postimg.cc/SRtGqPLd/poopbutts.png For those who don't already know, green blocks reflect pairings that I don't think look likely to be mafia teammates. Yellow blocks refer to pairings that I think could be; I have no good reason to say otherwise. Orange refers to a pair...
by Thunal33
Fri Oct 16, 2020 5:22 pm
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Topic: Grasslands [Game Thread]
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JaggedJimmyJay do you object to Sloonei being the chop today? At this point, no I don’t. I can poke holes in accusations rendered at Sloonei, but that doesn’t make him a civilian. I should be more secure about him than I am by now. Does that mean you think he's suspicious because you're not secure ...
by Thunal33
Fri Oct 16, 2020 3:20 pm
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Topic: Grasslands [Game Thread]
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I did some catching up - the above posts are sporadic responses to stuff people were aiming my way as I read up. Here's where I'm at. Hally feels slightly better today, had a plausible explanation for not suspecting LC's triple vote.... What is this triple vote? I also found this post suspicious: A...
by Thunal33
Fri Oct 16, 2020 11:24 am
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Topic: Grasslands [Game Thread]
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There’s nothing stopping Long Con from being mafia. He has just made a tradition of playing himself into POE pools so it is hard to draw any confidence from it. What makes me suspicious of LC is the interaction around him. Nobody ever had the mindset of "Hey, let's jump on LC!" but genera...
by Thunal33
Fri Oct 16, 2020 10:39 am
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Topic: Grasslands [Game Thread]
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I dislike the general thread consensus that LC is suspicious but not actually pushing him or wanting to vote him. It feels like my experience a couple games ago on PerC in a cult game where the cult leader was LHF that was in the PoE the entire game, yet there was a resistance coming from cult that ...
by Thunal33
Fri Oct 16, 2020 10:29 am
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Topic: Grasslands [Game Thread]
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@Alison what happens to your present view of the game if Sloonei is town? If Thunal is town? If Thunal is town I'd probably have to admit I'm barking up the wrong tree entirely and try to take a few steps back and re-evaluate my understanding of the gamestate entirely. If Sloonei is town then I'd j...
by Thunal33
Fri Oct 16, 2020 9:08 am
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Topic: Grasslands [Game Thread]
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LC ISO takeaways: It feels like there's nothing there. If LC got caught as scum for trying too hard recently it would make sense that he would be inclined to go too far in the opposite direction if he randed scum this game. I find it suspicious that he never reacted to any suspicion on him at all. I...
by Thunal33
Fri Oct 16, 2020 8:56 am
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Topic: Grasslands [Game Thread]
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My readslist (unordered): Hally - did a complete 180 on Carotte once they were sent to the grasslands which I find somewhat suspicious even with their justification. Seems to be solving and gave thoughts I had some agreement with but isn’t outside their scum meta and is one of my deepwolf suspects. ...
by Thunal33
Fri Oct 16, 2020 8:43 am
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Topic: Grasslands [Game Thread]
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page 20 I am exaggerating a bit when I say sloonei was lolcatting, but he really did not post any serious content and seemed completely flippant about the night vote. He really felt detached in the way a deflated scum would. Why would he be deflated? Town was yeeted. Because he knew carotte's flip ...
by Thunal33
Thu Oct 15, 2020 9:09 pm
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Topic: Grasslands [Game Thread]
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Caveat that I’m not sure how many scum teams think this way but It’s almost always better for scum in that situation to send town unless SPF is mafia. So very good chance that Hally and SPF are aligned, and because carot was shot and flipped green, very good chance they’re both town. Caveat that I’...
by Thunal33
Thu Oct 15, 2020 9:01 pm
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Topic: Grasslands [Game Thread]
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Eh I’m not sure I can read tutu this game I think it's going to be really hard to know, when she finally rands wolf, due to her having no wolf records on this site. I don't know what it looks like. what should we do today, Mr. Con? I'm going to do some ISO looking today, and I'll get back to you on...
by Thunal33
Thu Oct 15, 2020 8:55 pm
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page 18 reading grass chat. hally sounds genuine and is making me doubt my tr of thunal bc it makes sense that she'd send hally based on prior experience i just want to clarify that i don’t believe this in and of itself is a strong enough point to warrant serious suspicion on thunal. it was a thoug...
by Thunal33
Thu Oct 15, 2020 8:43 pm
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Topic: Grasslands [Game Thread]
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From a classical POE perspective, we'd presently need a pool of five. Congruently we'd need five non-self civilians. Can we get there? I have comfortable town reads on: SPF tutuu Well, shit. That's as far as I get right now. If I allow myself to give more generous town credit and trust vaguer insti...
by Thunal33
Thu Oct 15, 2020 8:36 pm
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Topic: Grasslands [Game Thread]
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From a classical POE perspective, we'd presently need a pool of five. Congruently we'd need five non-self civilians. Can we get there? I have comfortable town reads on: SPF tutuu Well, shit. That's as far as I get right now. If I allow myself to give more generous town credit and trust vaguer insti...
by Thunal33
Thu Oct 15, 2020 8:00 pm
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Topic: Grasslands [Game Thread]
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I've read the thread. r/IAmA Spoiler alert, it felt more like reading for a book report lol. Having difficulty internalizing much. It kind of feels like playing in a new community. Haven't played with more than half the player list, that's wild. I'm kind of nervous lolol Ted burns 4 posts in the sp...
by Thunal33
Thu Oct 15, 2020 7:55 pm
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Topic: Grasslands [Game Thread]
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I'm leaving in a half hour. I won't be here for the final hour, so any last minute vote maneuvering for the protection will be out of my hands. I can put a vote on Carot. That seems to be the consensus, at least, and I don't have reason to object. But I would like to present other options just in c...
by Thunal33
Thu Oct 15, 2020 6:31 pm
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Topic: Grasslands [Game Thread]
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Independently im scumreading thunal > alison > hally, separate from the grassland thing Can you elaborate more on why you suspect me? Also I read the tree house completely (I dislike when emotions run high in mafia games so I didn't really want to read all of it) and my takeaway is that nutella is ...
by Thunal33
Thu Oct 15, 2020 5:41 pm
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Topic: Grasslands [Game Thread]
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initial impressions from reading the QT are that it reflects nicely on nutella and jagged and poorly on sloonei For my own sanity, can you quote which post linked the treehouse QT? Because I can't find it. or maybe you were caught in the same way I was hoping to catch Hally? Don't think so but woul...
by Thunal33
Thu Oct 15, 2020 5:38 pm
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Topic: Grasslands [Game Thread]
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staypositivefriend wrote: Thu Oct 15, 2020 5:33 pm initial impressions from reading the QT are that it reflects nicely on nutella and jagged and poorly on sloonei
What do you think of post #45 from Alison?
by Thunal33
Thu Oct 15, 2020 5:30 pm
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Topic: Grasslands [Game Thread]
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I am exaggerating a bit when I say sloonei was lolcatting, but he really did not post any serious content and seemed completely flippant about the night vote. He really felt detached in the way a deflated scum would. Why would he be deflated? Town was yeeted. Because he knew carotte's flip would ce...
by Thunal33
Thu Oct 15, 2020 5:18 pm
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Topic: Grasslands [Game Thread]
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My strong TRs so far: tutuu, SPF, JJJ

I think JJJ waiting to share the link and trying a slightly unconventional way of reading Hally is really towny.
by Thunal33
Thu Oct 15, 2020 5:10 pm
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Topic: Grasslands [Game Thread]
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I am exaggerating a bit when I say sloonei was lolcatting, but he really did not post any serious content and seemed completely flippant about the night vote. He really felt detached in the way a deflated scum would. Why would he be deflated? Town was yeeted. I don't think activity/lack of activity...
by Thunal33
Thu Oct 15, 2020 5:02 pm
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Topic: Grasslands [Game Thread]
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Does alison + thunal w/w make sense? I found it a bit odd thunal voted alison eod1 just to show she wanna to vote her (like she put her at 4 votes, everyone was at 3, it was like "hey guys look at me im putting her at 4 votes"). Dunno I knew my vote had no impact but it was more of a repr...
by Thunal33
Thu Oct 15, 2020 4:59 pm
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Topic: Grasslands [Game Thread]
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Re: Grasslands [Game Thread]

I am exaggerating a bit when I say sloonei was lolcatting, but he really did not post any serious content and seemed completely flippant about the night vote. He really felt detached in the way a deflated scum would. Why would he be deflated? Town was yeeted. I don't think activity/lack of activity...

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