The Syndicate

Epignosis wrote: ↑Fri Mar 19, 2021 7:38 pm Tempted to lock the thread.

Justplayingitcool wrote: ↑Thu Mar 11, 2021 8:40 pm Hi tim, I acknowledge you made a post about town

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Thu Mar 11, 2021 6:34 pm

Syn wrote: ↑Thu Mar 11, 2021 6:32 pmif by jumped at the opportunity you mean "if everyone else agrees, sure," then yeah totally

Yes, that is what I meant. You did accept it. I don't know. That is fact.

If you're town and you're able to say I'm the most likely scum, you're no "better".

What are we even doing here?

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Thu Mar 11, 2021 6:27 pm

Justplayingitcool wrote: ↑Thu Mar 11, 2021 6:24 pmIt’s possible that it could be lynch bait? Would the mods make it purposefully ominous if alison was bad?

Uhhhahh. I don't know. I don't know. Alison has good arguments too. But would they make it ominous if Alison is good? Why more likely one over the other?

I do not know.

I don't like how Syn so quickly jumped at the opportunity to have Hyena go before him. That is what I'm sitting with now.

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Thu Mar 11, 2021 5:50 pm

Hyena wrote: ↑Thu Mar 11, 2021 5:47 pmHow is it logically flawed? Explain it to me.

Your plan is to give Syn your power, so that Syn can target a dead and alive player and be tracked? Yes?
What good would that do? Syn could kill at the same time as he uses your power. He could kill the "live person" he targets with your power, so double target them so it won't show up on a track.

In any case. He doesn't need your power to be tracked. If we should track someone to clear them they should not do an action at all. Only that would be clearing. If you want to clear Syn: Have him do no action and track him.

You don't need to die for us to track Syn. That doesn't make any sense.

Hyena wrote: ↑Thu Mar 11, 2021 5:22 pm Wait, is Dizzy one of Alison's bargainees?

Hyena wrote: ↑Thu Mar 11, 2021 5:18 pm

Hyena wrote: ↑Thu Mar 11, 2021 5:17 pm

Justplayingitcool wrote: ↑Thu Mar 11, 2021 5:13 pm

Hyena wrote: ↑Thu Mar 11, 2021 5:10 pm

Justplayingitcool wrote: ↑Thu Mar 11, 2021 5:08 pm And if you’re thinking of tutuu you literally cannot

It's not. It's the person Michelle and I have been pushing the past couple days that you guys keep saying is town.

Going to assume name starts with a D

If we follow syn's other plan, i thought LC was going to track dizzy?

Yes, that name starts with a D.

Also, why isn't it optimal to track Syn/me rather than Dizzy? Is there a benefit for tracking Dizzy or Syn (assuming they're gonna use my ability)?

Is there a benefit for tracking Dizzy OVER Syn** rather

Michelle wrote: ↑Thu Mar 11, 2021 4:57 pm Syn, no tears, yes?
Target goes to Hyena
No hero shot?
Please confirm both of you

Syn wrote: ↑Thu Mar 11, 2021 4:52 pm well, giving the chat to LC is because LC is protected and can't be shot

if he's the wolf and he gives a fake check saying I went to three people, then it guarantees his own chop D11

Hyena wrote: ↑Thu Mar 11, 2021 4:44 pm

Syn wrote: ↑Thu Mar 11, 2021 4:42 pm

Hyena wrote: ↑Thu Mar 11, 2021 4:40 pm

Syn wrote: ↑Thu Mar 11, 2021 4:36 pm

Hyena wrote: ↑Thu Mar 11, 2021 4:30 pm

Hyena wrote: ↑Thu Mar 11, 2021 4:28 pm I'm gonna be honest. I'm exhausted. This game has been going on for a month. I've pretty much used the last of my energy to try to explain why I'm town earlier in the day. I'm not going to be able to do anything more at this point. If you're still doubting me, then it's actually probably best to chop me here over Syn.

Syn will be able to use my ability tonight to do the same thing I expressed a desire to do earlier, which means just track Syn tonight to make sure they visit both an alive person and a dead person. Do NOT RB them.

wait what do you want to do tonight

Long Con can track, yeah? And he can also see that I visited the dead person in addition to the alive person that I give a BTSC too. My flip will confirm my role either way. Thus, if LC sees you visit a dead person, then you should be confirmed as the person who didn't make the kill, as I was trying to explain earlier. I couldn't have made the kill the day before last because I still managed to give a BTSC to you... we haven't chopped a mafia since then, and it's confirmed that no one alive has a BTSC with anyone, so unless I sacrificed my ability to kill HK, you should assumed that I actually did what I said I did last night and gave HK and BTSC with Tim.

I have been kind of assuming all this time that one can use both their role and the assigned kill at the same time

so really if I were a wolf I would just need to kill whoever I gave a chat t-

okay I could give a chat to LC

So, you're down for this plan then?

Hyena wrote: ↑Thu Mar 11, 2021 4:40 pm

Syn wrote: ↑Thu Mar 11, 2021 4:36 pm

Hyena wrote: ↑Thu Mar 11, 2021 4:30 pm

Hyena wrote: ↑Thu Mar 11, 2021 4:28 pm I'm gonna be honest. I'm exhausted. This game has been going on for a month. I've pretty much used the last of my energy to try to explain why I'm town earlier in the day. I'm not going to be able to do anything more at this point. If you're still doubting me, then it's actually probably best to chop me here over Syn.

Syn will be able to use my ability tonight to do the same thing I expressed a desire to do earlier, which means just track Syn tonight to make sure they visit both an alive person and a dead person. Do NOT RB them.

wait what do you want to do tonight

Long Con can track, yeah? And he can also see that I visited the dead person in addition to the alive person that I give a BTSC too. My flip will confirm my role either way. Thus, if LC sees you visit a dead person, then you should be confirmed as the person who didn't make the kill, as I was trying to explain earlier. I couldn't have made the kill the day before last because I still managed to give a BTSC to you... we haven't chopped a mafia since then, and it's confirmed that no one alive has a BTSC with anyone, so unless I sacrificed my ability to kill HK, you should assumed that I actually did what I said I did last night and gave HK and BTSC with Tim.

Hyena wrote: ↑Thu Mar 11, 2021 4:30 pm

Hyena wrote: ↑Thu Mar 11, 2021 4:28 pm I'm gonna be honest. I'm exhausted. This game has been going on for a month. I've pretty much used the last of my energy to try to explain why I'm town earlier in the day. I'm not going to be able to do anything more at this point. If you're still doubting me, then it's actually probably best to chop me here over Syn.

Syn will be able to use my ability tonight to do the same thing I expressed a desire to do earlier, which means just track Syn tonight to make sure they visit both an alive person and a dead person. Do NOT RB them.

Justplayingitcool wrote: ↑Thu Mar 11, 2021 3:33 pm

Syn wrote: ↑Thu Mar 11, 2021 3:32 pm

Michelle wrote: ↑Thu Mar 11, 2021 3:28 pm @Syn are you still ok with my action on you?

yeah

it'll look hella sus if I suddenly start telling you to deflect it onto someone else lol

reminder to provide legacy

Syn wrote: ↑Wed Mar 10, 2021 5:19 pm

Michelle wrote: ↑Wed Mar 10, 2021 4:37 pm

Syn wrote: ↑Wed Mar 10, 2021 4:15 pm if I survive, we are just going to be doing this again tomorrow and I have no interest in being a part of it

this happens every time I endgame and nobody ever listens to me because they think their fancy wishy washy play is going to get the solve and then they find out that keeping "idk that syn guy is an option" until the end wasn't helpful after all

Who is your top scum read Syn?

Barring any revelations, it's just a process of elimination for me now

You can see that as lazy, and it might be, but there is no strong reason to deviate from it (yet)

the plan I laid out a page or two ago will go a long way toward uncovering deception, as it clears you and Dizzy

I town-read Dizzy, but I also think Dizzy is best positioned to be a wolf who's had us fooled all along

with you and Dizzy hard cleared, with LC protected, with Alison town-siding, you're in a good position to win by attrition if not a slam dunk

chop you today, deflect onto me
clear dizzy, clear you, LC remains alive, Alison remains alive

if the wolf shoots Alison, it will kill tutuu instead because of her accepting the gambit (and tutuu should accept to ensure Alison's continued loyalty)

killing tutuu removes your tinfoil, so the wolf won't want to shoot there

so Alison is safe, LC is safe

Dizzy can be shot if he's not the wolf, but that still clears you because his block would have prevented w!michelle from shooting

you can be shot, but for what purpose?

that leaves kyle, tutuu, JPIC, and hyena for containing the wolf and the victim

Justplayingitcool wrote: ↑Thu Mar 11, 2021 3:33 pm

Syn wrote: ↑Thu Mar 11, 2021 3:32 pm

Michelle wrote: ↑Thu Mar 11, 2021 3:28 pm @Syn are you still ok with my action on you?

yeah

it'll look hella sus if I suddenly start telling you to deflect it onto someone else lol

reminder to provide legacy

Michelle wrote: ↑Thu Mar 11, 2021 3:28 pm @Syn are you still ok with my action on you?

Justplayingitcool wrote: ↑Thu Mar 11, 2021 3:05 pm

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Thu Mar 11, 2021 2:57 pm It would actually help me for people to go through any mech or important points for them being town. I’d appreciate it.

- I was tracked not killing n4 (i think). This proves my ability is a non-visiting role
- I was role blocked last night, and the kill still went through. The only way I can be mafia is if there is more than one left. I don't think that's the case because of how towny every one else is (at least from my perspective), and I think 7 mafia is a lot, plus two 3ps (assuming alison is indeed 3p).
- I was jailed n2 and the kill went through.
- I claimed being sent a song n2.
- when kyle hinted at who he should shoot, I suggested nanook

that's all i can think of from top of my head.