The Syndicate

I'm here and def still think Alison is scum

Marmot wrote: ↑Wed Dec 02, 2020 11:40 am Why is sig derpcleared, and is it something we can talk about?

Was wondering that myself. Let's talk about it

Esooa wrote: ↑Tue Dec 01, 2020 3:42 pm I mean, I specifically asked you to hard claim

True, I remember that!

Long Con wrote: ↑Tue Dec 01, 2020 8:45 am Can you let me know how my plan works if I am bad?

Is this your defense?

Game changer! Nice

Tuutu, fuckin' A

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Mon Nov 30, 2020 7:25 pm How much longer until EoD?

Why are you joke voting Mac instead of me, one of your top scum reads? Others have said why they think I'm town, you've not said anything to indicate you have a read change. Why the joke vote instead of a scum vote?

sig wrote: ↑Mon Nov 30, 2020 6:24 pm I want everyone to explain to me their logic for the Allison vote. She literally started saying we should lynch her before she got any attention correct? Even without this the original scum strategy doesn't make sense. Though now I see she's trying to save herself so maybe I'm missing something and need to reevaluate

Why does Alison voting for herself strike you as a towny move? Cuz it's not optimal scum strategy?

I've seen wolves do it many times, so town folks think like you & don't lynch.

@Alison Who should we vote for when you flip red?

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Mon Nov 30, 2020 3:48 pm
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Mon Nov 30, 2020 3:35 pm
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Mon Nov 30, 2020 3:05 pm
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Mon Nov 30, 2020 2:54 pm [VOTE: Alison] aubergine
[VOTE: Dr Wilgy] aubergine
Ah! you too? Do tell?
Me too? I'm the only one voting for you that I see. Leading the charge.
Ah, forgot that we aren't reading today.

Don't make fun of my illiteracy! Hooked on phonics did 2 things for me, jack & shit

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Mon Nov 30, 2020 3:05 pm
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Mon Nov 30, 2020 2:54 pm [VOTE: Alison] aubergine
[VOTE: Dr Wilgy] aubergine
Ah! you too? Do tell?

Me too? I'm the only one voting for you that I see. Leading the charge.

[VOTE: Alison] aubergine
[VOTE: Dr Wilgy] aubergine

Esooa wrote: ↑Mon Nov 30, 2020 1:30 pm I'm advocating an Alison exe until she is dead or hard claims btw, I don't care if her wanting to be exed is townie behavior when 99% of her posts are extremely scummy

I have many, many times seen Maf promote their own lynch & vote for themselves. It doesn't strike me as towny behaviour the way it seems to for others

sig wrote: ↑Mon Nov 30, 2020 11:18 am LC and Marmot are my votes

Alison/essoa is the most classic example of v/v imo. The fact Allison is willing to kamikaze herself means she's not mafia, especially given that mafia don't have a flip civ role, can't recall the name of it right now. Essoa isn't mafia for her actions last phase, if she is meh we can deal with it later. This is just gonna waste 1 to 2 phases and with nova no longer with us we can't really waste time.

Wait, but if she's Mafia, then there's no way she'd lie about something like that, would she?

Nonononononono, I refuse to believe that Mafia would LIE to us?

WHAT KIND OF WORLD ARE WE RAISING FOR OUR CHILDREN?

Marmot wrote: ↑Mon Nov 30, 2020 12:33 am Guess who can finally play mafia on a computer again!! The guy with 3 votes.

Who in your opinion looks the worst on your wagon?

Long Con wrote: ↑Sun Nov 29, 2020 11:52 pm Maybe someone wanted it to look like I am the killer, since Joseph was after me.

That someone being Alison, or your sheep read Marmot?

Got any other ideas on who may have set you up? Don't be afraid to tinfoil, after all you've come this far already

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Sun Nov 29, 2020 8:06 pm Mac was like the least interesting kill possible lol he was obvious town

Oh? Who would've been an interesting kill in your opinion?

Alison wrote: ↑Fri Nov 27, 2020 3:04 am #70 is another post that looks W/W with Mac but I forgot to add it into my post. I'm trying not to bias too much since I assume Esooa is going to tend to gravitate towards the players that she knows best regardless, but I do think that when all is said and done they look like they're wolves together. I expect town Mac to bury Esooa way harder and more decisively with an opening like that (both from her and from him), and I think he might be hesitating because she's actually his teammate.

linki: Yes, I think if Mac is your partner he always distances from you there. He knows me well enough to know I'll scumread you, and Falcon (who's a bit of an attack dog that doesn't let go once he sinks his teeth in) has already expressed displeasure with your entrance. He doesn't really have a choice there, all he can do is soften the blow by adding nanook as an alternative scumread and not going after you as hard.

Coming back to this post in particular pings me as scummy.

tutuu wrote: ↑Sun Nov 29, 2020 11:14 pm [VOTE: alison] aubergine
[VOTE: marmot] aubergine

Suddenly feel afraid that marmot could be mafia and i not only defended syn d1 but i also doc claimed another mafia and got pressure off of him

Falcon, wilgy says that as his first post every game. Im afraid to openly PR hunt as town anymore. U know im starting to think that might not be very pro-town

Who u think is mafia falcon?

Alison, Marmot, Ted, Long Con, Dr Wilgy are all in my scum list ATM

tutuu wrote: ↑Sun Nov 29, 2020 11:09 pm I wouldnt put it past nook to be w/w with ali, i dont think the blatant buddying is that hard or unlikely at all to do as w/w

If im wrong on marmot being doc i guess he could be maf. Still wanna believe my PR read though. i do believe im generally great at nailing down PRs (another reason why im town, as egocentrical as it may sound if i were mafia im pretty sure a non-esooa doctor would have been dead last night)

Sigurd and ted are my two top townreads

I would be happier if game was more active, i cant rly force ppl to post but. Ive just had some terrible experience in my recent completed mafia games and i want 1 game where there are no shitty surprises, everyone puts a relevant amount of effort and we just win

What do you make of Dr Wilgys Doc claim?

tedxtr wrote: ↑Sun Nov 29, 2020 9:09 am
Alison wrote: ↑Sat Nov 28, 2020 11:41 pm I think ted is the most likely busser since he tried to hard clear himself off the flip
or we could just yeet alison for this post

don't really care

you really think that as a wolf I'd be coming back at 2 minutes left and incentivise villagers to move off of the doc (lol at me even needing to say that) and onto the mafia rolecop?

the only world where i'm ever a wolf at that EoD is if I'd be getting votes off of my other partner MacDougall onto my other partner, Syn. judging by how stupid this sounds, surely the only reasonable conclusion is that i'm villaging.

seems suboptimal when I could just wagon somebody else / not show up at all, given that the village doctor was sitting at 5 votes and was leading in votes with 2 minutes left or so.

or you'd assume I wanted to look villagery by getting votes off of the doc, which I know is never a thing in the real world. and if I did, again, it'd be on a town.

Still trying to lock clear yourself off the flip eh? Nice

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Nov 28, 2020 11:34 pm Oh shit sorry

Ya done fucked up.

Pretty towny IMO

Alison wrote: ↑Sun Nov 29, 2020 12:08 am Well, if Esooa lives til tomorrow, which I think is most likely going to be the case, I'm going to suicide bomb her. If she dies, we'll see what happens.

In the meantime, can all non-Esooa players talk to me a little bit about tutuu please? I think she's being wrongly suspected.

That was 4 laughs funny! Keep it up, I need some chuckles right now

Alison wrote: ↑Sat Nov 28, 2020 11:41 pm I'm back and caught up. I think tutuu is lock town and I think this is sufficiently obvious that I think suspecting her is a scummy play. I'm fairly sure Esooa is going to self resolve at the start of D2, so I'm not going to bother evaluating that slot. I think ted is the most likely busser since he tried to hard clear himself off the flip, but Marmot is probably the scummiest out of the remaining players.

Cool. I think you're Maf.

Cash me outside, how 'bout dat?

tutuu wrote: ↑Sat Nov 28, 2020 7:56 pm falcon are u saying u didnt realize there are 2 docs? "THE" doc?

Yes, I didn't realize there are 2 Docs. Flame away!

tutuu wrote: ↑Sat Nov 28, 2020 7:53 pm this feels fucking insulting that mafia are actually voting our claimed doc and getting away with it

I'm not Maf, and I've expressed my sus for Essoa since the beginning. Must've missed the Doc claim, I'm also playing the Shadows game (as you know) and didn't catch her claim.

tutuu wrote: ↑Sat Nov 28, 2020 7:53 pm this feels fucking insulting that mafia are actually voting our claimed doc and getting away with it

Thought you had Marmot as the Doc?

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Nov 28, 2020 6:34 pm The entire mafia team is voting for me. For real.

You only have 1 vote for anyone that's on your wagon...why not vote for the rest if they're the entire Mafia team?

tedxtr wrote: ↑Sat Nov 28, 2020 2:07 pm
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Sat Nov 28, 2020 2:04 pm Mac & Tedxtr both voting for Marmot, and each is voting for the other eh?

Spoiler: show

Legit awesome Spidey meme

Mac & Tedxtr both voting for Marmot, and each is voting for the other eh?

tutuu wrote: ↑Sat Nov 28, 2020 1:57 pm
Marmot wrote: ↑Sat Nov 28, 2020 1:54 pm Tutuu suddenly has me more worried about being night killed than being yeeted.
shit

i ... am sorry in advance for what am i about to say, but i perceive this as a doc soft claim

@ everone voting marmot please unvote him

let's not make him hard claim his role (which is a doctor)

Marmot wrote: ↑Sat Nov 28, 2020 1:54 pm Tutuu suddenly has me more worried about being night killed than being yeeted.

Why is that a concern, and what's making you feel that way?

Marmot wrote: ↑Sat Nov 28, 2020 1:46 pm
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Thu Nov 26, 2020 8:05 pm Hard claim Town, don't lynch me.

You're not the only one who can play this game falcon

Imitation is the sincerest form of flattery, so excuse me while I blush

Marmot wrote: ↑Sat Nov 28, 2020 1:14 pm
tutuu wrote: ↑Sat Nov 28, 2020 12:45 pm idk about marmot, is it silly that i think he's town?

I am town how dare you

Are you really? I've heard this from you before, and it turned out to be fake news

Esooa wrote: ↑Fri Nov 27, 2020 4:43 pm
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Fri Nov 27, 2020 4:24 pm
Esooa wrote: ↑Fri Nov 27, 2020 4:16 pm
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Fri Nov 27, 2020 10:56 am Re: Essoa. Post #84, it reads like she's comfortable with Mac being scum, for why the question about Mac distancing himself from her after a perceived awkward entrance? Town doesn't distance, and she seems to be tacitly accepting that Macs scum.

The question also appears to defend Mac, as it implies that distancing so soon over an awkward entrance is not an ideal strategy for Maf.
yes, in that post I'm giving a perspective where mac and I are both mafia, so that I can say Alison's reasons for thinking we both are, are incorrect. Mac wouldn't need to distance from me after 1 post like that, so it's not true that because of it we're both mafia.
What's your take on Mac? What's your take on Alison?
Mac hasn't said much, seems NAI. Not sure Alison's range as mafia and she hasn't said anything that gives off really town vibes but I don't think a mafia comes into the thread giving strong confident reads so slight town so far

You said earlier that you Mac was discrediting you asap cuz' otherwise you'd sniff him out as wolf. You no longer feel this way?

Esooa wrote: ↑Fri Nov 27, 2020 4:16 pm
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Fri Nov 27, 2020 10:56 am Re: Essoa. Post #84, it reads like she's comfortable with Mac being scum, for why the question about Mac distancing himself from her after a perceived awkward entrance? Town doesn't distance, and she seems to be tacitly accepting that Macs scum.

The question also appears to defend Mac, as it implies that distancing so soon over an awkward entrance is not an ideal strategy for Maf.
yes, in that post I'm giving a perspective where mac and I are both mafia, so that I can say Alison's reasons for thinking we both are, are incorrect. Mac wouldn't need to distance from me after 1 post like that, so it's not true that because of it we're both mafia.

What's your take on Mac? What's your take on Alison?

tedxtr wrote: ↑Fri Nov 27, 2020 12:30 pm [VOTE: Marmot ] aubergine

didn't like the first post, reads to me a lot more like a scum thought than a town one

also, I don't really understand falcon's explanation but I believe he's been bonafide thus far.

it initially pinged me because he looked like he was pushing for something that I didn't really see happen, but then I remembered they did the same thing as town in the simpson's game.

and several people already town read them confidently so I'm just gonna assume they're town without caring too much about it

You were in the Simpsons game? Forgive me, that was my 1st game on Syndicate, and what with the sock puppets, I don't recall everyone who played. Who were you?

Re: Essoa. Post #84, it reads like she's comfortable with Mac being scum, for why the question about Mac distancing himself from her after a perceived awkward entrance? Town doesn't distance, and she seems to be tacitly accepting that Macs scum.

The question also appears to defend Mac, as it implies that distancing so soon over an awkward entrance is not an ideal strategy for Maf.

Poison wrote: ↑Thu Nov 26, 2020 11:47 pm
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Thu Nov 26, 2020 8:26 pm
Syn wrote: ↑Thu Nov 26, 2020 8:24 pm
Esooa wrote: ↑Thu Nov 26, 2020 8:15 pm Hard claim mafia (I will not be rescinding) don't exe me.

Also hi @tutuu

Also I rescind my mafia claim
claiming woof, made a promise, and broke the promise

v sus
You said it first, but I arrived at my conclusion independently.

Gonna give you a town lean for now. Don't make me regret it.
so you don't have trust issues, do you?

I trust people to be people.

Esooa wrote: ↑Fri Nov 27, 2020 3:02 am
Alison wrote: ↑Fri Nov 27, 2020 2:50 am Your entrance was kinda awkward and scummy so Mac had to bury you ASAP or it would be noticeable that he wasn't jumping on you, but he didn't want to commit fully to it so he put a scumread on nanook in the same post as an alternative target to attack. Since then, you've had some weird-ass interactions that look a lot like teammates distancing: #42, #68 for example. Your constant poking at me about Mac and about you + Mac as a team tend to affirm my view on that front as well.
Well I'm not quite one for entrance reads, but do you think it's true that mac thinks he has to immediately distance himself from me just because of what you perceive as an awkward entrance? Also, I'm poking you about Mac because you mentioned two people, one of which is the person who specifically invited me to this forum so of course I give special attention to him.

Interesting that you're defending Mac here. Invitation or not, why does it seem like you know his alignment?

Poison wrote: ↑Thu Nov 26, 2020 11:51 pm
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Thu Nov 26, 2020 9:13 pm
Esooa wrote: ↑Thu Nov 26, 2020 9:01 pm
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Thu Nov 26, 2020 8:49 pm
Esooa wrote: ↑Thu Nov 26, 2020 8:18 pm This is my first game in the forum btw c:
Where do you usually play?
I started on MU a couple weeks ago. Otherwise I'm new. But don't take that to mean too much, I've been trying very hard to get better
Nothing wrong with being a new player, and we're all trying to get better! What drove you to choose a wolf girl for your profile pic?
why do you have guns in your pfp?

It's what Pulp Fiction would've looked like if Daft Punk were Jules & Vincent.

Those gentlemen required firearms to enact Great Vengeance & Furious Anger, for the path of the righteous man is beset on all sides by the inequities of the selfish & the tyranny of evil men

Esooa wrote: ↑Fri Nov 27, 2020 2:23 am @MacDougall I have a question for you, which alignment would you most prefer us to have in our first game where you invited me to this forum? v/v, w/w, w/v?

What the hell does that have to do with the price of eggs in China?

Esooa wrote: ↑Thu Nov 26, 2020 11:14 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Nov 26, 2020 10:56 pm
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Thu Nov 26, 2020 8:14 pm Sup

Esooa wrote: ↑Thu Nov 26, 2020 8:15 pm Hard claim mafia (I will not be rescinding) don't exe me.

Also hi @tutuu

Also I rescind my mafia claim
Scum scum everyone else town gg see you d2
mac trying to discredit me asap cause I'll sniff out his mafia stench immediately

So is he Maf or not? You claim he's discrediting you cause' you'll know he's Maf immediately, yet he's the one calling you out as Maf & it seems like you're still on the fence

Esooa wrote: ↑Thu Nov 26, 2020 9:01 pm
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Thu Nov 26, 2020 8:49 pm
Esooa wrote: ↑Thu Nov 26, 2020 8:18 pm This is my first game in the forum btw c:
Where do you usually play?
I started on MU a couple weeks ago. Otherwise I'm new. But don't take that to mean too much, I've been trying very hard to get better

Nothing wrong with being a new player, and we're all trying to get better! What drove you to choose a wolf girl for your profile pic?

Esooa wrote: ↑Thu Nov 26, 2020 8:18 pm This is my first game in the forum btw c:

Where do you usually play?

Esooa wrote: ↑Thu Nov 26, 2020 8:38 pm My profile picture is a wolf girl...

I don't believe you.

Syn wrote: ↑Thu Nov 26, 2020 8:24 pm
Esooa wrote: ↑Thu Nov 26, 2020 8:15 pm Hard claim mafia (I will not be rescinding) don't exe me.

Also hi @tutuu

Also I rescind my mafia claim
claiming woof, made a promise, and broke the promise

v sus

You said it first, but I arrived at my conclusion independently.

Gonna give you a town lean for now. Don't make me regret it.

Esooa wrote: ↑Thu Nov 26, 2020 8:15 pm Hard claim mafia (I will not be rescinding) don't exe me.

Also hi @tutuu

Also I rescind my mafia claim

That's exactly what a Maf would say...

Hard claim Town, don't lynch me.

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