The Syndicate

Samusamu wrote: ↑Tue Dec 22, 2020 7:35 am I didnt like what i felt eod d1 reading mewtini but cant see scumness from him right now.

what changed? (also i use she/her!)

anyway i will actually stop posting now and go back to sleep

sig wrote: ↑Mon Dec 21, 2020 10:05 pm If wilgy is town though mew would look bad and vice verse

hm, elaborate?

unless i'd gone no-vote (which didn't cross my mind tbqh) the only other impactful vote i could have placed, barring a semisubstantial shift, would have been a deciding vote on ... your wagon iirc

tbh it's very possible i just went "ohoho! they are townreading me, now i like them!" especially since i was going ?_? at sloonei's vaguepush on me (both because: it was about me, and because i thought it was a mischaracterization of my eod) and thought made's engagement with it was like ... rational, and iirc pretty close to the truth (insofar as "i'm not going to hardpush a new wagon when i get to thread 10min before eod, that's weird"). inb4 w/w read for that

tl;dr i have to actually iso and figure out my other feelings when it isn't 6 in the morning and i'm on 3 hours of sleep, but that is where i'm at for the time being

mewtini wrote: ↑Tue Dec 22, 2020 7:23 am TRs from marmot down to sig align a lot with my feelings about those people

(in their #454 readlist, forgot to say)

Samusamu wrote: ↑Tue Dec 22, 2020 6:59 am Its enough, then made is still your principal candidate?

Who do you think that are they buddies?

i haven't read any of d2 still; i skimmed through a page or two, saw my name come up and wrote that checkin post, and then decided i didn't feel like playing and closed the tab haha. so i don't think i can really answer this q in good faith because of that.

made was at the forefront of my mind just because i hadn't resolved my feelings about them from d1, but i just went to skim their d2 now so i could answer this question ... and i think that a good number of their reads (his TRs from marmot down to sig align a lot with my feelings about those people) feel fine so now of course i feel better about them (made) overall, at least in a superficial sense. i didn't/don't have a potential team, i'm kind of bad with preflip association reads and wasn't thinking about them at all d1 (and therefore have put no thought into them d2).

Samusamu wrote: ↑Tue Dec 22, 2020 5:21 am

Samusamu wrote: ↑Mon Dec 21, 2020 7:05 am Also, @mewtini can u explain your last push in the eod?

Well, @mewtini , if u can, then respond this also with the last question sloonei did.

um ... i might not be understanding what you mean by this question, i don't think i really pushed anyone - my eod felt way more like "wait wtf, not THIS wagon [cat]" and me resisting that than anything else really. if you're asking me to explain my wilgy vote then i guess i did sort of do that already, i'll also note that i had pretty much a null wilgy read and i'd iso'd him without feeling much of anything (ie caring less about him dying than cat, at that point) so i figured "fuck it"

Sloonei wrote: ↑Tue Dec 22, 2020 2:07 am

mewtini wrote: ↑Tue Dec 22, 2020 1:25 am i'm checking in quickly to say that i saw some stuff was said to me, i think, but that i haven't had time/energy to respond; i'll get to it tomorrow. i'm pretty much not caught up on this phase

My question for you is this: what was your mindset at the end of Day 1?

Answer whenever you feel up to it, no hurry.

mostly just lost lol, i didn't/don't feel like i have a great grasp of the gamestate nor a lot of various arguments for/against people

pretty discontented with the wagon options, i didn't really want to vote for anyone except made and it looked like that wasn't really an option by the time i got into the thread - and i wasn't thrilled about voting between wilgy/cat, i thought the cat wagon felt weird and maybe wolfdriven so i wanted to give them another day. granted i wanted sig to have another day moreso because i thought i could find him given more time so i guess the end result could have been worse

i'm checking in quickly to say that i saw some stuff was said to me, i think, but that i haven't had time/energy to respond; i'll get to it tomorrow. i'm pretty much not caught up on this phase

hello hello!

Marmot wrote: ↑Sun Dec 20, 2020 5:58 pm Hello Minori!!! I forgot to mention, Toradora used to be one of my favorite anime.

lovely!! i was late to the party and only watched it during quarantine.

Marmot wrote: ↑Sun Dec 20, 2020 5:58 pm How do you determine who to vote for if you don't make scumreads D1 on policy?

sigh. i elaborated on this a bit but not enough apparently - the main point i was trying to make is that i'm far more focused on townreading/towncoring than i am on scumreading on d1 especially if there's not much content, because i think it's easy (for me, specifically) to get overly tunneled. obviously i'll still have suspicions and act on them

Marmot wrote: ↑Sun Dec 20, 2020 6:04 pm Who did everyone target last night?

alison

sig wrote: ↑Sat Dec 19, 2020 5:58 pm

mewtini wrote: ↑Sat Dec 19, 2020 5:57 pm i have like, a tinfoil cat/wilgy association read (not on tmi like people were saying earlier lmao) but i don't actually think either looks scummy independently and am not sure how other people got to that conclusion on cat. i think d1 jokeposting is a bad reason/~excuse to SR want someone dead

also cat has made actual pushes that made sense to me

hrrrgh 3 min left

I'd switch to wilgy if you want to?

only saw this after i voted. lets go

[VOTE: DrWilgy] aubergine

mrgle

sig wrote: ↑Sat Dec 19, 2020 5:57 pm

mewtini wrote: ↑Sat Dec 19, 2020 5:52 pm ok NOW i have isod cat

and i don't want to lynch there lol. anyone got an 11th hour counterwagon they wanna jump on with me, that preferably isn't wilgy (on tone i'd rather kill wilgy than cat, but the coal n0 makes me want to just leave him alone,)

i'm torn on Wilgy and Cat, both have said questionable things. Cat's post which Wilgy pointed out is a bit TMI and it wasn't ever addressed.

i guess i didn't go with the tmi explanation because it seemed so blatant? and early? not an organic slip or anything

i have like, a tinfoil cat/wilgy association read (not on tmi like people were saying earlier lmao) but i don't actually think either looks scummy independently and am not sure how other people got to that conclusion on cat. i think d1 jokeposting is a bad reason/~excuse to SR want someone dead

also cat has made actual pushes that made sense to me

hrrrgh 3 min left

ok NOW i have isod cat

and i don't want to lynch there lol. anyone got an 11th hour counterwagon they wanna jump on with me, that preferably isn't wilgy (on tone i'd rather kill wilgy than cat, but the coal n0 makes me want to just leave him alone,)

like it baffles me that relatively few posts in people were calling out "strong" town or scumreads, esp the latter
but i guess that's just meta diff

meant to make it on earlier, forgot that EoD was at 5,

i'm quickly skimming through right now. what's the case on cat, i thought they were just jokeposting?? or has something changed? before getting caught up/isoing i don't think that that slot is especially scummy or provides much info

and clarifying this because multiple people seem to be misunderstanding it

Made wrote: ↑Sat Dec 19, 2020 2:01 pm

mewtini wrote: ↑Fri Dec 18, 2020 10:53 pm in particular because of how early into the phase it was
felt like priming to me even though i think i agree it is a town-important thing to talk about at some point, esp considering that it's unholsterable; setting up an inactive kill felt like a strange move right out of the gate

quickly noting here that i don't play by making true scumreads on d1

...so you make false scum reads? what you mean??

i focus on building a towncore d1 and general observation
i'll push on others and ofc i'll have my suspicions, but Making Hard Scumreads on d1 just locks me into an early hunting mindset that hasn't been that beneficial for me in the past. by "true" i mean "solid" or focused, it just isn't where my mind is on d1

(my two cents is that i also don’t entirely jam with the playstyle, but i’m very hesitant to just call unfamiliar playstyles scummy esp in a new group; noting here that i’m a little frustrated by alison characterizing my “i don’t do hard scumreads d1” as a hedge + that she seemingly asked a question in the hopes of receiving a specific answer?)

cat wrote: ↑Sat Dec 19, 2020 6:11 am [VOTE: Alison] aubergine

Based on observation. Too calm and methodical.

what makes you say that that’s necessarily wolfy and not just a particular town playstyle?

(night everyone)

@Alison what would you say differentiates your wolf versus townie approach?

no i think that's legit, i was just curious. i vaguely mentioned it before that i thought the tonality was slightly different, and that made maybe pings me more strongly, but i need to read back and figure out whether or not it was because i was skimming. wanted to see if you'd picked up on it since i think your read on sig/samu ~matches my own and because i'm lazy right now.

glad that you mention the tmi thing because i haven't figured out where it actually comes from

do you have thoughts on Made?

Alison wrote: ↑Fri Dec 18, 2020 10:31 pm This post is pretty townie.

why? the tmi comment? since i see you're doubting Made atm

Alison wrote: ↑Fri Dec 18, 2020 10:33 pm Kyle/mewtini, I'm having the hardest time reading you two. Weigh in on sig vs samu, please.

think samu is clear town for energy and genuineness. also appreciated him trying to preserve thread direction and eventually saying "maybe sig is just aggravated town," felt like he was acting in good faith

reluctant to slap a scumlean on sig out of personal policy (which is that it's d1 and i want to see more before SLing anyone); i think i'm sideeyeing made more at the moment, actually. sig's recent posting feels more genuine / less wordtwisty than earlier posting did (need to reread later, the language boundary was i think a nonnegligible part of it + made was a bit more strange about it than necessary)

i'm curious about any metareads that anyone else may have on made/sig tbh. i also find it pretty difficult to read much of anything from the current lowposters, e.g. i'm wondering where the syn reads are coming from

mewtini wrote: ↑Fri Dec 18, 2020 10:27 pm catching up still but

Kylemii wrote: ↑Fri Dec 18, 2020 1:16 pm Cat, Samusamu, syn, and Mewtini please explain yourselves

i'm from a small forum (the cave of dragonflies) and play on MU occasionally; heard about the syndicate through my tcod/MU friend keldeo, though i'm not sure if he actually hangs around here himself. (was there anything else you wanted to know ... ?)

@kyle sorry i just got to your later post, adding on because i don't think i realized what you were actually asking the first time round;

Kylemii wrote: ↑Fri Dec 18, 2020 3:39 pm no one ever gives a clear answer when they're asked about their play history anymore

my home forum typically plays very chatty semilarge (~15p) closed-setup role madness games. i've played somewhere around 10 games now, but the last several have been as half of a hydra slot (though not necessarily in actual hydra games; most of them were just me/my partner participating in an otherwise-normal game). i've also only been playing since early this year

i also suspect i'm used to slightly less-aggressive play than i'm seeing here, and although i primarily play via psychoanalysis i'm used to playing with relatively mech-focused people

in particular because of how early into the phase it was
felt like priming to me even though i think i agree it is a town-important thing to talk about at some point, esp considering that it's unholsterable; setting up an inactive kill felt like a strange move right out of the gate

quickly noting here that i don't play by making true scumreads on d1

up through end of page 2,

sig wrote: ↑Fri Dec 18, 2020 10:44 pm I really don't get why everyone here seems to not give a damn about the gift function.

i was under the impression that the bulk of the pushback had more to do with the inactive/noposter sacrifice proposition than actually focusing on the mech itself

catching up still but

Kylemii wrote: ↑Fri Dec 18, 2020 1:16 pm Cat, Samusamu, syn, and Mewtini please explain yourselves

i'm from a small forum (the cave of dragonflies) and play on MU occasionally; heard about the syndicate through my tcod/MU friend keldeo, though i'm not sure if he actually hangs around here himself. (was there anything else you wanted to know ... ?)

@Alison happy birthday!!

brb reading everything as i haven't been here since p#20

what'd i miss. how's everyone's night (or day)

Syn wrote: ↑Fri Dec 18, 2020 2:27 am

mewtini wrote: ↑Fri Dec 18, 2020 2:17 amsup

hello new person i do not know at all

what do you want to be when you grow up?

locktown :-)

(hello!)

sup