The Syndicate

pyxxy wrote: ↑Mon Jul 24, 2023 4:23 pm It's the list of people that you've said I've TMI'd as town.

So that is the list of people Seanzie pushed plus Robyn?

pyxxy wrote: ↑Mon Jul 24, 2023 4:19 pm
Guillotine wrote: ↑Mon Jul 24, 2023 4:16 pm
pyxxy wrote: ↑Mon Jul 24, 2023 4:11 pm
Guillotine wrote: ↑Mon Jul 24, 2023 4:09 pm
pyxxy wrote: ↑Mon Jul 24, 2023 4:08 pm
Guillotine wrote: ↑Mon Jul 24, 2023 4:07 pm Do you townread Robyn? @pyxxy
Yes. I said that I think Robyn is spewed town by the lack of relative discussion of them today. I'm shielding them today. Tomorrow I'm happy to drop the shield and argue on merit (losing battle if they don't reappear).
You are saying that Robyn is thread spewed because no one discussed about them?

That is not how thread spew works.
That's.....fair.

You're right. It's whatever the inverse of thread spew is. I just know of thread spew as a concept. And I think the inverse has happened today. If there's a term for it, let me know.
There is no such thing as the inverse.

People just forget about zero posters until they are not forgotten anymore.

I think you are shielding Robyn because you got TMI she is town

Or

You are shielding a slanker because you are a slanker yourself, if you manage to shield an slanker successfully, they might do it for you too.

pyxxy wrote: ↑Sun Jul 23, 2023 11:27 pm
pyxxy wrote: ↑Sun Jul 23, 2023 11:26 pm pyxxy's TMI checklist:

tutuu
cape
seanzie
wilgy
zenon WIP
@Guillotine lemme know if I missed one that you caught
Robyn

What is this?

pyxxy wrote: ↑Mon Jul 24, 2023 4:11 pm
Guillotine wrote: ↑Mon Jul 24, 2023 4:09 pm
pyxxy wrote: ↑Mon Jul 24, 2023 4:08 pm
Guillotine wrote: ↑Mon Jul 24, 2023 4:07 pm Do you townread Robyn? @pyxxy
Yes. I said that I think Robyn is spewed town by the lack of relative discussion of them today. I'm shielding them today. Tomorrow I'm happy to drop the shield and argue on merit (losing battle if they don't reappear).
You are saying that Robyn is thread spewed because no one discussed about them?

That is not how thread spew works.
That's.....fair.

You're right. It's whatever the inverse of thread spew is. I just know of thread spew as a concept. And I think the inverse has happened today. If there's a term for it, let me know.

There is no such thing as the inverse.

People just forget about zero posters until they are not forgotten anymore.

I think you are shielding Robyn because you got TMI she is town

Or

You are shielding a slanker because you are a slanker yourself, if you manage to shield an slanker successfully, they might do it for you too.

pyxxy wrote: ↑Mon Jul 24, 2023 4:08 pm
Guillotine wrote: ↑Mon Jul 24, 2023 4:07 pm Do you townread Robyn? @pyxxy
Yes. I said that I think Robyn is spewed town by the lack of relative discussion of them today. I'm shielding them today. Tomorrow I'm happy to drop the shield and argue on merit (losing battle if they don't reappear).

You are saying that Robyn is thread spewed because no one discussed about them?

That is not how thread spew works.

Do you townread Robyn? @pyxxy

[VOTE: pyxxy] aubergine

pyxxy wrote: ↑Mon Jul 24, 2023 4:01 pm We've got 3 hours. I'm not doomering yet.

100% agree that Robyn disappearing doesn't earn a shield. It's that people were not seriously discussing Robyn until now, the last quarter or so of the phase.

And it's not with "oh we chop Robyn, we then have a POE of X Y and Z to win the game bc association analysis".

You've done the most out of anyone. You've suggested Pyxxy/Robyn. But if that's true, then you should always chop me because I've actually been interacting and posting today.

Robyn and I are sort of opposites in posting numbers, D1 compared to D2. The more recent day will always be fresher. You could make a case for me knowing that Robyn would be afk or that I'm reacting out of anxiety about Robyn slanking / not working with me in scum chat, or something like that.

In which case. You should always chop me first. Because flipping Robyn on a day lacking in cases against Robyn + basically nothing gained from a town!Robyn flip.

If Robyn slanks again tomorrow, kill'em dead. But not today.

If you flip wolf i will 100% clear Robyn based on this.

@robyn come here

I changed my mind

[VOTE: Robyn] aubergine

Everyone must contribute.

My biggest fear in mafia is not losing to a good powerwolf, it is losing to a wolf slot who didnt even try to play.

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Mon Jul 24, 2023 2:47 pm yes. I just don't know if I'm to 100% trust their read on Rem.

I'd like to, but it feels very contrary to what I think on Rem.

Why are you self voting?

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Mon Jul 24, 2023 2:47 pm yes. I just don't know if I'm to 100% trust their read on Rem.

I'd like to, but it feels very contrary to what I think on Rem.

The way I see it is:

If Zenon, Rem and Robyn are all town and they swore to trust each other til the end then scum will have to do something about it. Because there is nothing scum fears more than town finding each other and protecting each other at great lengths.

I don't trust Rem. But I do trust Zenon and if those three are town, then scum will have to resolve them for me, otherwise, the game is already won for us. Sucks to be a wolf because if those 3 are town who happen to be the shy ones (except Zenon), they will have a hard time having to decide between killing them to break the voltron or loud players like myself.

This is why I'm not pushing for Rem or Robyn, because if Zenon is right, scum will have to break that up. This is what realistically is supposed to happen if they are all three town, scum is gonna have to do something about it, now if they dont start dropping like flies then ... we are in trouble.

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Mon Jul 24, 2023 2:44 pm
Guillotine wrote: ↑Mon Jul 24, 2023 2:42 pm
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Mon Jul 24, 2023 2:41 pm
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Mon Jul 24, 2023 2:07 pm Rem is too fluffy, I'd like to trust Zenon but feel that I'm unable to do so fully. Would yeet.
why did you leave out that Rem was the subject matter of would yeet in that @Guillotine? That almost seems like an intentional omission.
Because Im not talking about Rem im talking about your sudden Zenon read change in the span of a page with no clear progression.
My read on Zenon didn't change. Please reread the quote.

Really don't feel like when I'm asked specifically about Rem, and I respond with subject matter Rem, and end it in a 'Would yeet.' you'd get to 'they changed their read on Zenon.' Did I need to put 'Would yeet Rem?'

Oh I see, my bad.

So your read on Zenon is still town right?

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Mon Jul 24, 2023 2:41 pm
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Mon Jul 24, 2023 2:07 pm Rem is too fluffy, I'd like to trust Zenon but feel that I'm unable to do so fully. Would yeet.
why did you leave out that Rem was the subject matter of would yeet in that @Guillotine? That almost seems like an intentional omission.

Because Im not talking about Rem im talking about your sudden Zenon read change in the span of a page with no clear progression.

What happened between here

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Mon Jul 24, 2023 9:57 am
Seanzie wrote: ↑Mon Jul 24, 2023 9:47 am
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Mon Jul 24, 2023 9:45 am
Seanzie wrote: ↑Mon Jul 24, 2023 9:27 am
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Mon Jul 24, 2023 1:29 am
Seanzie wrote: ↑Sun Jul 23, 2023 10:31 pm I don't want to vote Guillo, Epi, Falcon or Pyxxy.

@DrWilgy @Zenon @Rem @robyn
Sup dood?
Can you give me a summary of your thoughts (a rainbow list or top 3 town/scum or something)?
behold the 47.25% uninformed rainbow.
Zenon
Falc
Epi
Guillo
Seanzie
Rem
Robyn
Pyyxy

Order within color brackets has no meaning. color has no meaning. nothing has meaning.
Why Zenon so high, and me so low?
Zenon really feels like town Zenon

You felt like town you, but T Cape said yeet you, and T Tutuu said to sheep Zenon who said to yeet you. SO your position is an ACK that I'm big dumb 28.9892% of the time and that I could be wrong.

and

here

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Mon Jul 24, 2023 2:07 pm I'd like to trust Zenon but feel that I'm unable to do so fully. Would yeet.

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Mon Jul 24, 2023 2:17 pm Falcon is town here.

Strong early, into AFK because busy into coming back just to throw hands? This is 100% T Falcon meta.

So why are you sheeping Zenon if you are not sure about their townieness?

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Mon Jul 24, 2023 2:15 pm
Guillotine wrote: ↑Mon Jul 24, 2023 2:12 pm When a townie scum reads another townie and they flip part of their ego still wanna be right and will not admit that the townie they tunneled had good reads. This is most people townies never sheep the dead, because they wanna be right and the dead is telling them that they were wrong about them.

Also, the primary reason scum kills a player on night 1 is if they are an imminent threat! But they also can kill for WIFOM! So blindly sheeping the dead is dangerous!
Please go read cyberpunk. I quite literally lost as W because T was smart enough to sheep. Forgive me for choosing to drop my own ego.

Guillotine wrote: ↑Mon Jul 24, 2023 2:12 pm I don't know how long you have been playing this game but this is mafia basics, you should know this if you have been playing more than 6 months.
This is unnecessarily condescending and not really an argument.

Guillotine wrote: ↑Mon Jul 24, 2023 2:12 pm I don't see believe you are willing to sheep the towny (Cape90) that you yourself tunneled yesterday into townreading the other townie (Me) whom you also tunneled and almost eliminated yesterday.
Why not?

1) Are you prone to sheep others as town? is this in your town meta? If yes, I'd like to see proof please.
2) It was not meant tobe condescending, it is a fact, anyone playing longer than 6 months should know that.
3) I already explained why.

Also here is a theory. Imagine you fake being away from the thread but you have been reading.
Then imagine you see I get a lot of heat and you just wanna see if I get enough heat to get executed today.
Then as you saw that Seanzie, Epignosis, Zenon and myself have found each other then you come in the thread with your sheep story and make an 180 on me to magically townread me because Cape90 said so. Specially because your name was being brought up and you knew that you remaining AFK will eventually bring you some heat.
So this is the perfect opportunity to make it look like you are townreading me only you did it deliberately inorganic so if you die first and flip wolf, then your partner, whoever they are can start a push on me pointing out how inorganic your townread on me was and getting me sussed that way.

It makes perfect sense.

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Mon Jul 24, 2023 2:07 pm
Guillotine wrote: ↑Mon Jul 24, 2023 2:02 pm
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Mon Jul 24, 2023 2:01 pm
Guillotine wrote: ↑Mon Jul 24, 2023 2:00 pm
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Mon Jul 24, 2023 1:58 pm
Guillotine wrote: ↑Mon Jul 24, 2023 1:21 pm
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Mon Jul 24, 2023 1:40 am Cape TR'd Guillo, Zenon by like 12.56%

Like'd Rem's readlist

WR'd Seanzie, Pyxxy with Robyn
Weird, if you were willing to consider Cape's legacy on me and Zenon, why did you park your vote one me for more than 24 hours?
Weird, I can drop a randy vote at start of phase prior to reading Cape's legacy on you and Zenon and leave it there for 24 hours because I wasn't around?
No, not really, you can just not drop a vote at all if you are not gonna be around for 24 hours.
Nah
Yah

What is your read on Rem, Pyxxy and Robyn?
Rem is too fluffy, I'd like to trust Zenon but feel that I'm unable to do so fully. Would yeet.

Pyxxy is just wolfy this game.

Robyn is also wolfy this game. They were the first to try to draw attention to the weirdness of the nk this cyle, like almost immediately, and have been almost completely mia at the same time.

Ok. What about Falcon then?

And the keyword is sheep.

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Mon Jul 24, 2023 2:05 pm
Guillotine wrote: ↑Mon Jul 24, 2023 1:59 pm
Seanzie wrote: ↑Mon Jul 24, 2023 10:18 am
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Mon Jul 24, 2023 10:14 am
Cape90 wrote: ↑Fri Jul 21, 2023 4:51 pm So I will cut EOD pretty close

I still think Guillotine is just town here and am not sure what the votes on him are about

I'm considering getting off pyxxy because if he is wolf, I would not expect his mafia partner to try? Like just because of how nothing he is playing and I get the vibe of people trying this game

Cape90 wrote: ↑Fri Jul 21, 2023 4:53 pm [VOTE: Seanzie] aubergine

I don't like this vote too much.

Oddly enough I feel like if pyxxy is mafia the other is robyn and just her?

Which doesn't feel correct

Cape90 wrote: ↑Fri Jul 21, 2023 4:59 pm
robyn wrote: ↑Fri Jul 21, 2023 4:54 pm
Cape90 wrote: ↑Fri Jul 21, 2023 4:53 pm [VOTE: Seanzie] aubergine

I don't like this vote too much.

Oddly enough I feel like if pyxxy is mafia the other is robyn and just her?

Which doesn't feel correct
i'm voting pyxxy as u said this
Yeah I realized that after I scrolled up

IDK I could just be wrong I just feel as if, if pyxxy is mafia then the other one would be in doomer mode or whatever
So the way I see Cape's posts before EoD I see
T Guillo

W Sean, Robyn, Pyx and Tutuu in that order of bottom of totem pole from least to most scummy per Cape.
Yeah, that doesn't scream "yeet Sean" to me. You're using dead people's reads with an agenda.
Correct! I also don't trust his change of heart and that now he wants to townread me because of legacies but he started this day voting me, not to mention he scum read cape90 yesterday but today all of those trust issues with their reads and pushes are magically gone because the flipped town? and suddenly he wants to sheep the dead that he himself scum read yesterday?
Sheep Cape90 into townreading me?

Nah fam, Wilgy is scum here and is trying to associate me with him.
alright, first off why would I try to associate you to me? that doesn't even make sense I wanted you gone yesterday lol.

and of course they are magically gone because they flipped town. I know they are town now.

What are you even arguing for?

You don't understand because you are not town that is why.

When a townie scum reads another townie and they flip part of their ego still wanna be right and will not admit that the townie they tunneled had good reads. This is most people townies never sheep the dead, because they wanna be right and the dead is telling them that they were wrong about them.

Also, the primary reason scum kills a player on night 1 is if they are an imminent threat! But they also can kill for WIFOM! So blindly sheeping the dead is dangerous!

I don't know how long you have been playing this game but this is mafia basics, you should know this if you have been playing more than 6 months.

I don't see believe you are willing to sheep the towny (Cape90) that you yourself tunneled yesterday into townreading the other townie (Me) whom you also tunneled and almost eliminated yesterday.

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Mon Jul 24, 2023 2:02 pm
Guillotine wrote: ↑Mon Jul 24, 2023 1:29 pm
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Mon Jul 24, 2023 9:45 am
Seanzie wrote: ↑Mon Jul 24, 2023 9:27 am
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Mon Jul 24, 2023 1:29 am
Seanzie wrote: ↑Sun Jul 23, 2023 10:31 pm I don't want to vote Guillo, Epi, Falcon or Pyxxy.

@DrWilgy @Zenon @Rem @robyn
Sup dood?
Can you give me a summary of your thoughts (a rainbow list or top 3 town/scum or something)?
behold the 47.25% uninformed rainbow.
Zenon
Falc
Epi
Guillo
Seanzie
Rem
Robyn
Pyyxy

Order within color brackets has no meaning. color has no meaning. nothing has meaning.
This list contradicts your early read on Seanzie, like you can't possibly have believed that Seanzie felt town and put him in the orange pile just because Zenon said so. Nope
It's almost as if my reads change and develop as the gamestate changes!

I'd agree if those changes happen organically but they changed because you decided to sheep, hence they are inorganic.

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Mon Jul 24, 2023 2:01 pm
Guillotine wrote: ↑Mon Jul 24, 2023 2:00 pm
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Mon Jul 24, 2023 1:58 pm
Guillotine wrote: ↑Mon Jul 24, 2023 1:21 pm
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Mon Jul 24, 2023 1:40 am Cape TR'd Guillo, Zenon by like 12.56%

Like'd Rem's readlist

WR'd Seanzie, Pyxxy with Robyn
Weird, if you were willing to consider Cape's legacy on me and Zenon, why did you park your vote one me for more than 24 hours?
Weird, I can drop a randy vote at start of phase prior to reading Cape's legacy on you and Zenon and leave it there for 24 hours because I wasn't around?
No, not really, you can just not drop a vote at all if you are not gonna be around for 24 hours.
Nah

Yah

What is your read on Rem, Pyxxy and Robyn?

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Mon Jul 24, 2023 1:58 pm
Guillotine wrote: ↑Mon Jul 24, 2023 1:21 pm
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Mon Jul 24, 2023 1:40 am Cape TR'd Guillo, Zenon by like 12.56%

Like'd Rem's readlist

WR'd Seanzie, Pyxxy with Robyn
Weird, if you were willing to consider Cape's legacy on me and Zenon, why did you park your vote one me for more than 24 hours?
Weird, I can drop a randy vote at start of phase prior to reading Cape's legacy on you and Zenon and leave it there for 24 hours because I wasn't around?

No, not really, you can just not drop a vote at all if you are not gonna be around for 24 hours.

Seanzie wrote: ↑Mon Jul 24, 2023 10:18 am
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Mon Jul 24, 2023 10:14 am
Cape90 wrote: ↑Fri Jul 21, 2023 4:51 pm So I will cut EOD pretty close

I still think Guillotine is just town here and am not sure what the votes on him are about

I'm considering getting off pyxxy because if he is wolf, I would not expect his mafia partner to try? Like just because of how nothing he is playing and I get the vibe of people trying this game

Cape90 wrote: ↑Fri Jul 21, 2023 4:53 pm [VOTE: Seanzie] aubergine

I don't like this vote too much.

Oddly enough I feel like if pyxxy is mafia the other is robyn and just her?

Which doesn't feel correct

Cape90 wrote: ↑Fri Jul 21, 2023 4:59 pm
robyn wrote: ↑Fri Jul 21, 2023 4:54 pm
Cape90 wrote: ↑Fri Jul 21, 2023 4:53 pm [VOTE: Seanzie] aubergine

I don't like this vote too much.

Oddly enough I feel like if pyxxy is mafia the other is robyn and just her?

Which doesn't feel correct
i'm voting pyxxy as u said this
Yeah I realized that after I scrolled up

IDK I could just be wrong I just feel as if, if pyxxy is mafia then the other one would be in doomer mode or whatever
So the way I see Cape's posts before EoD I see
T Guillo

W Sean, Robyn, Pyx and Tutuu in that order of bottom of totem pole from least to most scummy per Cape.
Yeah, that doesn't scream "yeet Sean" to me. You're using dead people's reads with an agenda.

Correct! I also don't trust his change of heart and that now he wants to townread me because of legacies but he started this day voting me, not to mention he scum read cape90 yesterday but today all of those trust issues with their reads and pushes are magically gone because the flipped town? and suddenly he wants to sheep the dead that he himself scum read yesterday?
Sheep Cape90 into townreading me?

Nah fam, Wilgy is scum here and is trying to associate me with him.

Seanzie wrote: ↑Mon Jul 24, 2023 10:07 am Oh ho ho!!! This get's better!

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Mon Jul 24, 2023 9:57 am
Seanzie wrote: ↑Mon Jul 24, 2023 9:47 am
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Mon Jul 24, 2023 9:45 am
Seanzie wrote: ↑Mon Jul 24, 2023 9:27 am
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Mon Jul 24, 2023 1:29 am
Seanzie wrote: ↑Sun Jul 23, 2023 10:31 pm I don't want to vote Guillo, Epi, Falcon or Pyxxy.

@DrWilgy @Zenon @Rem @robyn
Sup dood?
Can you give me a summary of your thoughts (a rainbow list or top 3 town/scum or something)?
behold the 47.25% uninformed rainbow.
Zenon
Falc
Epi
Guillo
Seanzie
Rem
Robyn
Pyyxy

Order within color brackets has no meaning. color has no meaning. nothing has meaning.
Why Zenon so high, and me so low?
Zenon really feels like town Zenon

You felt like town you, but T Cape said yeet you, and T Tutuu said to sheep Zenon who said to yeet you. SO your position is an ACK that I'm big dumb 28.9892% of the time and that I could be wrong.
Where is that?

Here?

Cape90 wrote: ↑Fri Jul 21, 2023 4:53 pm [VOTE: Seanzie] aubergine

I don't like this vote too much.

Oddly enough I feel like if pyxxy is mafia the other is robyn and just her?

Which doesn't feel correct
Which was followed up with moving their vote to Tutuu 3 minutes later?

"I don't like this vote too much" equates to "yeet Seanzie"? Uhh huh...

So...

Wilgy is misrepresenting Cape, and "sheeping tutuu, sheeping zenon" on me, but NOT Rem?

Nah.

[VOTE: Wilgy] aubergine

Yup

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Mon Jul 24, 2023 10:06 am
Seanzie wrote: ↑Mon Jul 24, 2023 9:59 am
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Mon Jul 24, 2023 9:57 am
Seanzie wrote: ↑Mon Jul 24, 2023 9:47 am
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Mon Jul 24, 2023 9:45 am
Seanzie wrote: ↑Mon Jul 24, 2023 9:27 am
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Mon Jul 24, 2023 1:29 am

Sup dood?
Can you give me a summary of your thoughts (a rainbow list or top 3 town/scum or something)?
behold the 47.25% uninformed rainbow.
Zenon
Falc
Epi
Guillo
Seanzie
Rem
Robyn
Pyyxy

Order within color brackets has no meaning. color has no meaning. nothing has meaning.
Why Zenon so high, and me so low?
Zenon really feels like town Zenon

You felt like town you, but T Cape said yeet you, and T Tutuu said to sheep Zenon who said to yeet you. SO your position is an ACK that I'm big dumb 28.9892% of the time and that I could be wrong.
How do you tell the difference between town!Zenon and wolf!Zenon?

Zenon admits they suck at scumreads. Does that factor into your two-layer sheep read?

If you are sheeping Zenon on her scumread of me, why is Rem so low?
you and Rem are the same color silly.

Also idk, but I'm pretty sure I have the Zenon read at least semi tangibly 75.4% of the time. I've gotten it correct afew times. W!Zenon the agenda comes through just ever so slightly, but this cartoon is just kinda schmoovin like T Zenon.

my gut is screaming to w read Rem, but I wouldn't actually vote there because of Zenon's read until given need to do otherwise as it stands.

If Wilgy is a wolf Zenon and Seanzie are def spewed town based on this.

Safe to say Wilgy/Zenon and Wilgy/Seanzie are not probable teams.

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Mon Jul 24, 2023 9:45 am
Seanzie wrote: ↑Mon Jul 24, 2023 9:27 am
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Mon Jul 24, 2023 1:29 am
Seanzie wrote: ↑Sun Jul 23, 2023 10:31 pm I don't want to vote Guillo, Epi, Falcon or Pyxxy.

@DrWilgy @Zenon @Rem @robyn
Sup dood?
Can you give me a summary of your thoughts (a rainbow list or top 3 town/scum or something)?
behold the 47.25% uninformed rainbow.
Zenon
Falc
Epi
Guillo
Seanzie
Rem
Robyn
Pyyxy

Order within color brackets has no meaning. color has no meaning. nothing has meaning.

This list contradicts your early read on Seanzie, like you can't possibly have believed that Seanzie felt town and put him in the orange pile just because Zenon said so. Nope

It does not make sense that Wilgy townreads Seanzie and Zenon and decides to sheep a townread to vote another townread, that is scummy.

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Mon Jul 24, 2023 9:57 am
Seanzie wrote: ↑Mon Jul 24, 2023 9:47 am
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Mon Jul 24, 2023 9:45 am
Seanzie wrote: ↑Mon Jul 24, 2023 9:27 am
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Mon Jul 24, 2023 1:29 am
Seanzie wrote: ↑Sun Jul 23, 2023 10:31 pm I don't want to vote Guillo, Epi, Falcon or Pyxxy.

@DrWilgy @Zenon @Rem @robyn
Sup dood?
Can you give me a summary of your thoughts (a rainbow list or top 3 town/scum or something)?
behold the 47.25% uninformed rainbow.
Zenon
Falc
Epi
Guillo
Seanzie
Rem
Robyn
Pyyxy

Order within color brackets has no meaning. color has no meaning. nothing has meaning.
Why Zenon so high, and me so low?
Zenon really feels like town Zenon

You felt like town you, but T Cape said yeet you, and T Tutuu said to sheep Zenon who said to yeet you. SO your position is an ACK that I'm big dumb 28.9892% of the time and that I could be wrong.

[VOTE: DrWilgy] aubergine

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Mon Jul 24, 2023 1:40 am Cape TR'd Guillo, Zenon by like 12.56%

Like'd Rem's readlist

WR'd Seanzie, Pyxxy with Robyn

Weird, if you were willing to consider Cape's legacy on me and Zenon, why did you park your vote one me for more than 24 hours?

Rem wrote: ↑Mon Jul 24, 2023 1:10 am
Guillotine wrote: ↑Mon Jul 24, 2023 1:09 am
Rem wrote: ↑Mon Jul 24, 2023 1:07 am I alo don't believe you don't remember me so my vote stays on you
I'm sorry if I hurt your ego but i really dont know who you are.
Ir is not about hurting my ego, i just don't believe you

This is awkward...

Rem wrote: ↑Mon Jul 24, 2023 1:07 am I alo don't believe you don't remember me so my vote stays on you

I'm sorry if I hurt your ego but i really dont know who you are.

Rem wrote: ↑Mon Jul 24, 2023 1:07 am I alo don't believe you don't remember me so my vote stays on you

Nothing I can do about that, I don't.

Rem wrote: ↑Mon Jul 24, 2023 1:06 am I guess rallying 10 townies to kill insomnia day 1 in anni is not impressive enough

Well not like i care or anyfin

Well I think that was the Euro thread and I was in the American one so yah...

Are you an alt of someone I know?

You play like Phrase or Eliza

You have to be someone that truly impresses me to remember you.

Rem wrote: ↑Mon Jul 24, 2023 1:02 am
Guillotine wrote: ↑Mon Jul 24, 2023 1:00 am
Rem wrote: ↑Mon Jul 24, 2023 12:58 am I thought this guillotine was the same from mu
I am
Oh so why are you so surprised? We' have plyed together you know I'm strategic as scum and viby as town

I'm sorry but I dont remember you. Nothing personal but players with your type of play style don't stick in my mind.

Well if Zenon is accurate again, I believe none of these wagons kill a wolf.

Rem wrote: ↑Mon Jul 24, 2023 12:58 am I thought this guillotine was the same from mu

I am

Zenon wrote: ↑Mon Jul 24, 2023 12:36 am
Guillotine wrote: ↑Mon Jul 24, 2023 12:33 am Mafia League S2: M2G1
Zenon was town.

https://www.mafiauniverse.com/forums/th ... ost6828268

Towncore of Macdougall, Rem, Shinichi

They were all three town. Impressive

Light 15er Game
Zenon was town and Rem was too.

https://www.mafiauniverse.com/forums/se ... d=17989811

"Rem - Rem was town within like 10 posts lol I think her being like to bad for you I'm not trolling this game and getting into solving the game and mirroring thoughts I had while reading through was towny. I think her emotion especially when trying to empathize with her position with Achro was towny frustration and felt real. The attitude of like fuck you I'm gonna keep doing what I'm trying to do is towny. "

Mafia Universalis Game Thread
Zenon was town and so was Rem, who subbed out and was replaced by Kajot.

I'm not gonna look for it in that 400+ ISO.
What I noticed in this game though (because I tried to find a post from Rem reacting to Zenon which I never found), is that Rem truly does not give a fuck about looking wolfy as town.
And she said there that she hates randing vanilla town and actually tipped off a few people for trolling, she indeed trolled the fuck out of a few players and enjoyed it and she was town.

----------------------

So @Zenon , I do trust you are saying the truth now. Full trust as you requested.
I can't find scum to save my life

But when I town core someone my accuracy is greater than rand

Town leans less so but town core reads are very good for me

I'm very good at both except when I tunnel someone to death and create worlds before actual flips and the tunnel flips town... yah It's hard for me to rewire.

I'm most accurate on day 1 and day 2 after that I rely on legacy reads.

Rem wrote: ↑Mon Jul 24, 2023 12:50 am
Guillotine wrote: ↑Mon Jul 24, 2023 12:43 am
Rem wrote: ↑Mon Jul 24, 2023 12:37 am
Zenon wrote: ↑Mon Jul 24, 2023 12:32 am
Rem wrote: ↑Mon Jul 24, 2023 12:28 am
Zenon wrote: ↑Mon Jul 24, 2023 12:24 am Rem

Rem

Rem

Hi.

Who's your top 3 town? And top 3 scum?

Also.

What anime should I watch?
Town Zenon drwilgy Robyn
Scum guillotine, 1 in seanzie/epi, falcon

I'm watching liar liar and masamune's revenge this season

Which genre are you looking for a recommendation?
I kinda like everything

Magical Girl animes are my main squeeze but I've seen most of them

I like slice of life things too

I like everything lol

I can give you my top 5 and you'd get a better feel of what I like lol

Why Wilgy town? Why Guillo scum?

I don't disagree with anything else
Guillo feels like he's pulling at straws to get a scum read plus the thing somone(i think epi) pointed could be a perspective error

Dr wilgy is just gut read

Mmm if you like slice of life there's suki na go na megame which is heart warming
The dangers of my heart, kobu san won't let me be invisible
Can you gals please talk OGI somewhere else? You are really filling the thread with fluff.

Now feelings are subjective, I'd appreciate actual reasons of why I'm scum here.
If you are expecting me to give you a detailed explanation i'm sorry but i won't

I play montanious the same way i play coalition, with vibes, my other strenght is reading votes but it's kind of annoying to keep track of the votes in this site so i'm nerfed

It is super annoying to keep track of votes here indeed. Wagonomics is just impossible to do in this game.

Hmm, say I flip town right now. Where you'd look into next?

Rem wrote: ↑Mon Jul 24, 2023 12:37 am
Zenon wrote: ↑Mon Jul 24, 2023 12:32 am
Rem wrote: ↑Mon Jul 24, 2023 12:28 am
Zenon wrote: ↑Mon Jul 24, 2023 12:24 am Rem

Rem

Rem

Hi.

Who's your top 3 town? And top 3 scum?

Also.

What anime should I watch?
Town Zenon drwilgy Robyn
Scum guillotine, 1 in seanzie/epi, falcon

I'm watching liar liar and masamune's revenge this season

Which genre are you looking for a recommendation?
I kinda like everything

Magical Girl animes are my main squeeze but I've seen most of them

I like slice of life things too

I like everything lol

I can give you my top 5 and you'd get a better feel of what I like lol

Why Wilgy town? Why Guillo scum?

I don't disagree with anything else
Guillo feels like he's pulling at straws to get a scum read plus the thing somone(i think epi) pointed could be a perspective error

Dr wilgy is just gut read

Mmm if you like slice of life there's suki na go na megame which is heart warming
The dangers of my heart, kobu san won't let me be invisible

Can you gals please talk OGI somewhere else? You are really filling the thread with fluff.

Now feelings are subjective, I'd appreciate actual reasons of why I'm scum here.

pyxxy wrote: ↑Mon Jul 24, 2023 12:10 am
Guillotine wrote: ↑Mon Jul 24, 2023 12:03 am
pyxxy wrote: ↑Mon Jul 24, 2023 12:01 am
Zenon wrote: ↑Sun Jul 23, 2023 11:51 pm
pyxxy wrote: ↑Sun Jul 23, 2023 11:50 pm
Zenon wrote: ↑Sun Jul 23, 2023 11:40 pm
pyxxy wrote: ↑Sun Jul 23, 2023 11:34 pm POE solve is Seanzie Robyn and Epi

idc about order

ttyl

(nice job pyxxy, this post really takes the cake for unsubstantiated opinion, guillo won't be able to resist this one for a second)
Why robyn
why not

would you consider your townreads on Rem and Robyn to be equal?
No.

But I would say I think robyn is like >90% town
cool

solve becomes Seanzie and Epi

[VOTE: Seanzie] aubergine
Nah, how about wiggles?

[VOTE: DrWilgy] aubergine

He was hyperposting yesterday and now he is pretty much vanished.
For someone that seems to care deeply about reasons for reads, that's not a great reason, especially not for Wilgy specifically, who I would not categorize as a scum that has fluctuating whim levels.

Also I read his ISO. Wilgy town.

Still haven't read Epi really. That would have been the case to make here. I know that you're town because you didn't make that case. You're obviously self-aware and thinking hard in your own way about the game. Tornadoing is a verb that comes to mind.

I'm less convinced that Epi is mafia here. I also don't think Seanzie is mafia.

Wilgy is parking on me though... like a wolf scared of making waves.

Rem wrote: ↑Mon Jul 24, 2023 12:28 am
Zenon wrote: ↑Mon Jul 24, 2023 12:24 am Rem

Rem

Rem

Hi.

Who's your top 3 town? And top 3 scum?

Also.

What anime should I watch?
Town Zenon drwilgy Robyn
Scum guillotine, 1 in seanzie/epi, falcon

I'm watching liar liar and masamune's revenge this season

Which genre are you looking for a recommendation?

I'm not scum and given what i read from your games Zenon posted links for, I also know it is useless to ask why you think I'm scum so I will not waste my time.

Mafia League S2: M2G1
Zenon was town.

https://www.mafiauniverse.com/forums/th ... ost6828268

Towncore of Macdougall, Rem, Shinichi

They were all three town. Impressive

Light 15er Game
Zenon was town and Rem was too.

https://www.mafiauniverse.com/forums/se ... d=17989811

"Rem - Rem was town within like 10 posts lol I think her being like to bad for you I'm not trolling this game and getting into solving the game and mirroring thoughts I had while reading through was towny. I think her emotion especially when trying to empathize with her position with Achro was towny frustration and felt real. The attitude of like fuck you I'm gonna keep doing what I'm trying to do is towny. "

Mafia Universalis Game Thread
Zenon was town and so was Rem, who subbed out and was replaced by Kajot.

I'm not gonna look for it in that 400+ ISO.
What I noticed in this game though (because I tried to find a post from Rem reacting to Zenon which I never found), is that Rem truly does not give a fuck about looking wolfy as town.
And she said there that she hates randing vanilla town and actually tipped off a few people for trolling, she indeed trolled the fuck out of a few players and enjoyed it and she was town.

----------------------

So @Zenon , I do trust you are saying the truth now. Full trust as you requested.

pyxxy wrote: ↑Mon Jul 24, 2023 12:01 am
Zenon wrote: ↑Sun Jul 23, 2023 11:51 pm
pyxxy wrote: ↑Sun Jul 23, 2023 11:50 pm
Zenon wrote: ↑Sun Jul 23, 2023 11:40 pm
pyxxy wrote: ↑Sun Jul 23, 2023 11:34 pm POE solve is Seanzie Robyn and Epi

idc about order

ttyl

(nice job pyxxy, this post really takes the cake for unsubstantiated opinion, guillo won't be able to resist this one for a second)
Why robyn
why not

would you consider your townreads on Rem and Robyn to be equal?
No.

But I would say I think robyn is like >90% town
cool

solve becomes Seanzie and Epi

[VOTE: Seanzie] aubergine

Nah, how about wiggles?

[VOTE: DrWilgy] aubergine

He was hyperposting yesterday and now he is pretty much vanished.

Zenon wrote: ↑Sun Jul 23, 2023 11:20 pm
Guillotine wrote: ↑Sun Jul 23, 2023 11:17 pm @Zenon

Im hating that you decided to vote me when i decided to support pressure on Rem, when just a few hours ago you were ok with sheeping me on Epignosis.

You called us having a skill issue in reading Rem not that we were scummy for it, you said that you think im town but because Rem is getting pressure and she is the friend you love to play with then you are willing to vote out a townread over her, whom you townread for NAI reasons.

And the worst part is that i actually townread it because i doubt you are not self conscious to know how bad it looks Neon, i also dont think you are paired because what wolf team makes a defense like yours so obvious and risk getting executed back to back.
Well it's not NAI and I have literally correctly read Rem in every single game I've played with her even as town had in most of them voted her out and killed her despite this

To insinuate that I'm just town reading sometime and playing in any way around a friendship is insulting but I digress

Anyways yes I voted you to tie the wagons

Ok. I apologize for accusing you of defending Rem based on friendship.

I still disagree the townread but I can see that you believe in it.

That said, can you give us links to town games where you correctly townread her please?

Just to have peace of mind you are not faking this (even though I don't believe you are).

Im done here, im done trying to solve this and prove my worth with actual reads and actual solve only to get tied and remain a top wagon just to protect someone because they enjoy playing with them.

Get real, tag me when you are ready to play mafia.

Good night

Zenon wrote: ↑Sun Jul 23, 2023 11:20 pm
Guillotine wrote: ↑Sun Jul 23, 2023 11:17 pm @Zenon

Im hating that you decided to vote me when i decided to support pressure on Rem, when just a few hours ago you were ok with sheeping me on Epignosis.

You called us having a skill issue in reading Rem not that we were scummy for it, you said that you think im town but because Rem is getting pressure and she is the friend you love to play with then you are willing to vote out a townread over her, whom you townread for NAI reasons.

And the worst part is that i actually townread it because i doubt you are not self conscious to know how bad it looks Neon, i also dont think you are paired because what wolf team makes a defense like yours so obvious and risk getting executed back to back.
Well it's not NAI and I have literally correctly read Rem in every single game I've played with her even as town had in most of them voted her out and killed her despite this

To insinuate that I'm just town reading sometime and playing in any way around a friendship is insulting but I digress

Anyways yes I voted you to tie the wagons

It is exactly how you are playing this so i dont care if the truth is offensive to you.

It is NAI, things like “she was enjoying her time when we were not serious.”
Everyone literally enjoys the RvS stage.

And then “she lost interest when things got serious like i did.”
Both a townie and a wolf can display such behavior, it is NAI.

So show me please the reads from her that you claim are village indicative, i actually wanna see that you believe this now.

Zenon wrote: ↑Sun Jul 23, 2023 11:10 pm
Guillotine wrote: ↑Sun Jul 23, 2023 11:06 pm
Zenon wrote: ↑Sun Jul 23, 2023 10:55 pm
Seanzie wrote: ↑Sun Jul 23, 2023 10:41 pm
Zenon wrote: ↑Sun Jul 23, 2023 10:39 pm
Seanzie wrote: ↑Sun Jul 23, 2023 10:20 pm [VOTE: Epi] aubergine

Rem still needs way more attention as well IMO. Does anyone other than Zenon townread them?
You should listen to me though... really
Can you explain your Rem townread? I will listen to what you say and take it into account.
It's really simple right.

Rem. Is being honest and pure. She doesn't give a fuck about appearing towny because she doesn't give a fuck about dying because she doesn't value her life because she is town.

Towns don't value their lives scum do. Town don't care about appearing towny to minimize their chance of being voted scum do but this is especially true of Rem because she hates playing town so she REALLY doesn't give a fuck about being towny.

With that said she will still try to help town shell throw out a read she'll tell you what she sees and she's damn good at it to but most of the game will ignore it because she's not gonna try to put together a 30 page thesis on her reads so she'll get ignored by all of you except like me probably I'd we are honest.

If you do pay attention you'll ask her to do something which she won't want to do because she's town and she's trying to be helpful but like she's not gonna go dive isos to prove a point like I'm not either fuck that so than you'll paint her as being uncooperative cause she's scum but really what you are painting as scummy motivation is also just fucking towny.

Rem was excited early on because me and her were fucking around she rolled town but hanging out in thread with someone bullshitting made her happy and she stated such. As the thread has turned more serious and people have butchered us for having fun in a mafia game and I've become more serious myself her activity has dropped off and she's been less interested this also follows my logic and belief that her genuine feelings were that she rolled town that sucks but she saw me and was happy and now that's faded.

Now to be honest I want to just hang out with Rem in thread and talk about Oppenheimer and Gacha and anime and not get crucified for it cause that was also fun for me and I can play the game around that. And we can't talk on discord during the game though I hope my inbox gets flooded after the game lol.I'm bored and my investment level has dropped lol.

But Rem is town and killing her wastes a day.
You say she hates towning.

Do you have games of her where she randed scum and is truly enjoying scumming in the thread?
I've only seen her town personally

This is also just

Town Rem so like

Trust or don't

I will not blindly trust no.

@Zenon

Im hating that you decided to vote me when i decided to support pressure on Rem, when just a few hours ago you were ok with sheeping me on Epignosis.

You called us having a skill issue in reading Rem not that we were scummy for it, you said that you think im town but because Rem is getting pressure and she is the friend you love to play with then you are willing to vote out a townread over her, whom you townread for NAI reasons.

And the worst part is that i actually townread it because i doubt you are not self conscious to know how bad it looks Neon, i also dont think you are paired because what wolf team makes a defense like yours so obvious and risk getting executed back to back.

Zenon wrote: ↑Sun Jul 23, 2023 10:55 pm
Seanzie wrote: ↑Sun Jul 23, 2023 10:41 pm
Zenon wrote: ↑Sun Jul 23, 2023 10:39 pm
Seanzie wrote: ↑Sun Jul 23, 2023 10:20 pm [VOTE: Epi] aubergine

Rem still needs way more attention as well IMO. Does anyone other than Zenon townread them?
You should listen to me though... really
Can you explain your Rem townread? I will listen to what you say and take it into account.
It's really simple right.

Rem. Is being honest and pure. She doesn't give a fuck about appearing towny because she doesn't give a fuck about dying because she doesn't value her life because she is town.

Towns don't value their lives scum do. Town don't care about appearing towny to minimize their chance of being voted scum do but this is especially true of Rem because she hates playing town so she REALLY doesn't give a fuck about being towny.

With that said she will still try to help town shell throw out a read she'll tell you what she sees and she's damn good at it to but most of the game will ignore it because she's not gonna try to put together a 30 page thesis on her reads so she'll get ignored by all of you except like me probably I'd we are honest.

If you do pay attention you'll ask her to do something which she won't want to do because she's town and she's trying to be helpful but like she's not gonna go dive isos to prove a point like I'm not either fuck that so than you'll paint her as being uncooperative cause she's scum but really what you are painting as scummy motivation is also just fucking towny.

Rem was excited early on because me and her were fucking around she rolled town but hanging out in thread with someone bullshitting made her happy and she stated such. As the thread has turned more serious and people have butchered us for having fun in a mafia game and I've become more serious myself her activity has dropped off and she's been less interested this also follows my logic and belief that her genuine feelings were that she rolled town that sucks but she saw me and was happy and now that's faded.

Now to be honest I want to just hang out with Rem in thread and talk about Oppenheimer and Gacha and anime and not get crucified for it cause that was also fun for me and I can play the game around that. And we can't talk on discord during the game though I hope my inbox gets flooded after the game lol.I'm bored and my investment level has dropped lol.

But Rem is town and killing her wastes a day.

You say she hates towning.

Do you have games of her where she randed scum and is truly enjoying scumming in the thread?

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