The Syndicate

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Tue Sep 14, 2021 10:13 am

ilario wrote: ↑Tue Sep 14, 2021 5:45 am

NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Mon Sep 13, 2021 10:58 pm I've skimmed through the ISOs purely looking for mechanical things, no content analysis (I don't know if it's needed actually)

Most town leaning evidence (in order):

JJJ

Sloonei

Dyslexicon

Dolby Falcon Marmott

LimeCoke Ilario

TSP

Johanna

G-man

Normally, I would suggest killing from the bottom up, but Ilario did something this game that I almost exclusively do as mafia, so I'm going to go look at some other games and check.

Lmao wtf? How did you go from wanting to elim jjj/sloonei into having them as ur top trs

Town's reads adjust as the game progresses, it's harder for Maf to do the same. Good look for NAA IMO.



It seems you're only addressing this post tho cuz' of the shade NAA's thrown on you

G-Man wrote: ↑Tue Sep 14, 2021 9:30 am Thoughts through page 10:

DOLBY

DYSLEXICON
-whole entry to the game was just weird. Don’t recall if this is typical but it feels a little too much. Do not agree with assessment of SPF
-So. Much. Thread-spew! Not enough foundation behind all that glitter.
-254&255: now it simmers down
-275: Waffle House reads
-280: Why play with forced restraint?
-286: Fair criticism, but also sets up a huge bias
-351: “I am intentionally not going to play the way I tend to play”
-373: something concrete is something
-401: hedgy

FALCON
-323: I concur about pingy
-354: scum reads with no meat
-363: agreed

ILARIO
-77: post count padding? Quite agreeable
-113: too much emphasis on entrance (not limited to just ilario)
-192: a little too forward-thinking and helpful without focusing on the here and now
-304: way too soft an acceptance of Dys
-337: rather over-explainy

JAGGEDJIMMYJAY
-56: could be supa-jay but feels too jabbery
-93: more like real Jay
-101: less twang and more neil hartley please
-152: good points but nai
-158: i thought the same; unclear how this makes me feel
-277: this feels slimy
-390: soft pass for NAA
-443: so why bother writing it?

JOHANNA

LIME COKE
-68: a lot to glean from so little
-434: a bit brash and over the top
-440: drifting into ATE?

MARMOT
-184: sassy burn?

NAA
-312: derp?
-437: yes and no

SIG
-291: lol sig

SLOONEI
-72: sassy interesting. Disingenuous?
-125: true
-419: bingo

SOA
-39: experienced player- no passes needed (come at me?)
-41: can’t describe own play style? Odd.
-61: seeking pat on the head or open fishing- don’t force the lure
-63: “interesting” and agreeable
-88: over-equipped try-hard
-148: a bit Mac-like? Hard to pin this personality down
-355: speaking of magnifying things…
-453: feels like too much to explain what it does

SPF
-64: good questions
-69: also good
-111: color me intrigued
-164: ew adverbs; meh

TSP
-317: TR’s sig
-463: lol Tony


Notes before post #201 were recorded before the night post. Everything after that has the benefit of reading both Sig and SPF as town.

More later as I work through it.

Johanna wrote: ↑Tue Sep 14, 2021 7:40 am

ilario wrote: ↑Tue Sep 14, 2021 7:26 am

Johanna wrote: ↑Tue Sep 14, 2021 6:35 am What role card. That was probably the most stripped down role PM I've ever received, and there wasn't even a role!

I wanted to know whether I might be Fleabag, or at least Miranda.

How about you, why are you so soft and cuddly? ò.ó

I’m feeeling goood about my role but a bit concerned over the actual gamestate. I think I was too hasty with some of my earlier trs on d1

Can you elaborate on this?

Johanna wrote: ↑Tue Sep 14, 2021 6:37 am

ilario wrote: ↑Tue Sep 14, 2021 6:28 am Wait I’m very confused about the watcher claim? When it says they get the report one day later do they mean 24hours or an entire day phase ? I assumed the latter so in which case I don’t get why tsp would claim here???

The latter, but also the NK takes effect at the end of the following day, so we will get hopefully 1 red check. Unless TSP is bamboozling us to provide another bait for the mafia, which is still pro-town.

Johanna wrote: ↑Tue Sep 14, 2021 6:35 am What role card. That was probably the most stripped down role PM I've ever received, and there wasn't even a role!

I wanted to know whether I might be Fleabag, or at least Miranda.

How about you, why are you so soft and cuddly? ò.ó

Johanna wrote: ↑Tue Sep 14, 2021 5:57 am I know I said falcon is probably my #1 suspect but that's largely a function of not really having any. As I said, the ones who've made posts that struck me as odd in a bad way are Lime Coke and SoA.

Spoiler: show

I'd like to call him Limey.

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But that'd be rude.

TSP definitely posted oddly, but not knowing them at all and given the consistency of it I am happy to chalk it up to posting style. Suggesting that a vt claim watcher was fantastic,

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Thanks Marmot, I forgot that over the night.

they defended someone who was basically tilted for their entire stay on thread and thus were an easy mischop. It was not clear then and I'm not sure why he didn't say his clear was based on meta, but he was right, and his D2 so far just makes him townier.

I hate how NAA is playing but I don't see reason to characterise that as scummy. Confrontational and antagonising, sure. Again I chalk it up to posting style, although in this case I don't think there are reasons to towncore him. Neither are there reasons to suspect him.

So falcon. Yeah, I don't have reasons to think he's a wolf per se, either, and especially now that it's become apparent he's not very well caught up. In my experience, wolves are just as often boldly pushing names as they are cute and cuddly,

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I mean, they are. falcon's main D1 point doesn't really hold.

but what they try to do is to be up to date.

I don't think I can in good conscience vote for a 2-poster. Nobody can say whether they're scum or not based on two posts. So you know, I'm not reading that slot, but it is true that if they don't show up soon they'll have to be up for the chop. I'm just saying give them a chance to show up.

That's the most questionable bit about NAA, his easy-going willingness to lock wolfreads on nothing but literal thin air.

Johanna wrote: ↑Tue Sep 14, 2021 6:03 am Hi Ilario!

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How weird is it we've been posting side by side all page without interacting once?

Johanna wrote: ↑Tue Sep 14, 2021 6:03 am Hi Ilario!

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How weird is it we've been posting side by side all page without interacting once?

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Tue Sep 14, 2021 1:28 am Holy fucking shit I have to go.

Relevant info - I'm going on a work trip (can't believe I've become one of those people please help me) and I'm unclear how much free time I will have and I might miss my train so baiiiii

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Tue Sep 14, 2021 1:25 am

Son of Anarch wrote: ↑Mon Sep 13, 2021 9:31 pm No worries. I just don't see the need to complicate the game until necessary. I'm an agreeable enough guy, sure. Heck, me even writin' this post is pretty agreeable, wouldn't ya think? But I'll tell ya what, bein' scum and bein' agreeable here serves me no purpose. I prefer to be in the center of the action as wolf, gettin' lots of blood on my hands whenever possible. Probably a bit hard to believe, eh? I'm pretty chill right now, after all. That's because I've got no teeth like those scary wolves, heh

Kind of just believe this and Anarch is probably just town.

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Tue Sep 14, 2021 1:09 am I quite like Johanna actually. I like that she picked the exact same Anarch post as awkward that I did, I like that she didn't go "michop bad thread consensus bad" (though I don't know if that is actually AI or anything), and similar to Jimmay, I do have a slight positive lean on her not considering the watcher (though logically, this is probably a non-point)

I also kind of think Axe is town? I don't know his scum style though. It would have to be a bold one if scum. I probably don't have enough actual backup to call this, and meta digging is boring. What do you say, Axe?

And now I'm pretty sure I have way too many town leans, wow surprising

NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Mon Sep 13, 2021 11:41 pm

Sloonei wrote: ↑Mon Sep 13, 2021 11:40 pm

NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Mon Sep 13, 2021 11:39 pm

Sloonei wrote: ↑Mon Sep 13, 2021 11:36 pm

NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Mon Sep 13, 2021 11:28 pm @JaggedJimmyJay

If I were a betting man, I'd say all of the mafia are in: TSP, Ilario, G-man, Johanna, LimeCoke

I will be a little surprised if this list does not include multiple mafia members. I would also be surprised if it contains all four of them.

I would be surprised if the list contains fewer than 3 mafia.

Which three are you most confident about?

Ilario and Johanna.

staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Mon Sep 13, 2021 11:08 pm

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Mon Sep 13, 2021 8:06 pm

staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Mon Sep 13, 2021 7:56 pm interesting stuff. i have some immediate thoughts about why i may have been poisoned, but i'm going to keep them to myself for now. it's kind of nice that i get to spend these 48 hours hunting with no tinfoil/suspicion against me whatsoever, minus the dying at the end of the day part :P

What's your current perspective/confidence level regarding ilario?

i will need to re-read illario before i answer that, but i would like to make it known that i was theorizing quite strongly overnight that there was a wolf between lime coke/illario. i have never seen lime coke and illario fail to find each other on d1 when they are villagers before, and illario remaining consistently suspicious of lime coke throughout the day as LC continued to townread him made me think that the dynamic would not be pure. i also estimate that the Epicmafians might be more likely to kill me than the other players here, but that is faulty reasoning, so i'm not weighing it too heavily

NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Mon Sep 13, 2021 10:58 pm I've skimmed through the ISOs purely looking for mechanical things, no content analysis (I don't know if it's needed actually)

Most town leaning evidence (in order):

JJJ

Sloonei

Dyslexicon

Dolby Falcon Marmott

LimeCoke Ilario

TSP

Johanna

G-man

Normally, I would suggest killing from the bottom up, but Ilario did something this game that I almost exclusively do as mafia, so I'm going to go look at some other games and check.

Sloonei wrote: ↑Mon Sep 13, 2021 10:02 pm I town-read ilario based on energy early Day 1, but my Review has turned up a questionable early moment in his ISO:

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ilario wrote: ↑Sat Sep 11, 2021 12:31 am

Sloonei wrote: ↑Fri Sep 10, 2021 9:32 pm I contend that TonyStarkPrime singularly is more likely to enter the game with setup discussion as mafia than as town.

True or false or none of the above?

agreed

sloonei town

ilario wrote: ↑Sat Sep 11, 2021 12:38 am

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sat Sep 11, 2021 12:33 am

ilario wrote: ↑Sat Sep 11, 2021 12:31 am

Sloonei wrote: ↑Fri Sep 10, 2021 9:32 pm I contend that TonyStarkPrime singularly is more likely to enter the game with setup discussion as mafia than as town.

True or false or none of the above?

agreed

sloonei town

I await your reception of my latest post before this.

Ah that’s a shame, well I tr you for other reasons now such as threadspew and you admitting it was made up.

ilario instantly agrees with my made-up TSP slander and slaps a town read on me in response. But then when I tell everyone that I was making junk up, he says "ah well you're town for other reasons anyway."

@ilario why did you "agree" with my early assertion about TSP? What is your experience playing with him and how familiar are you with TSP? Why did you view me as town in response to that post?

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Mon Sep 13, 2021 8:57 pm

NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Mon Sep 13, 2021 8:50 pm Ilario, Falcon, Dolby, TSP, PRs all town.

If I were to do gun-to-head reads I think I'd agree with all four of these.

But I don't think it's probable that it's correct. If I have to yank a mafioso from that pile my first instinct is falcon.

NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Mon Sep 13, 2021 8:34 pm

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Mon Sep 13, 2021 8:33 pm

NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Mon Sep 13, 2021 8:31 pm Dolby + TSP + the PRs, that's 5/6 of my quota for town reads @JaggedJimmyJay. So that's an easy 6 for you.

Remember that one of those non-vanilla players cannot claim; they don't know they're a thing. That would be four though, sure. Thanks.

I mean, that and the fact that I'm obviously lock town for yesterday, Sig flip. If you don't see it, then you're probably just mafia, because I don't think you're bad.

NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Mon Sep 13, 2021 8:39 pm

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Mon Sep 13, 2021 8:37 pm

NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Mon Sep 13, 2021 8:34 pm I mean, that and the fact that I'm obviously lock town for yesterday, Sig flip. If you don't see it, then you're probably just mafia, because I don't think you're bad.

I didn't realize you were referring to yourself.

You're not obviously lock anything to me (nor is anyone, I think that kind of language tends to be silly), but I'll take that into consideration.

I mean...

I pushed against the Sig wagon
I pushed on a Sig voter (who randomly was trying to put off the blame for his vote)

I get that you might be like, yeah but you could just theater... Yeah, but then look at the level of effort that I put into this game overall, and ask if I would really be bothered to do that shit as mafia just for the sake of the exact same outcome.

NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Mon Sep 13, 2021 8:41 pm Like JJJ's post yesterday of "let's get 2 misses before we consider re-evaluation sounded a lot like, let's get 2 kills before we start talking about my slot, and my partners"

NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Mon Sep 13, 2021 8:41 pm Add Falcon to my town circle, never rescinding on Falcon, Dolby, TSP town reads.

NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Mon Sep 13, 2021 8:43 pm

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Mon Sep 13, 2021 8:42 pm

NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Mon Sep 13, 2021 8:41 pm Like JJJ's post yesterday of "let's get 2 misses before we consider re-evaluation sounded a lot like, let's get 2 kills before we start talking about my slot, and my partners"

That's not what I said. I was asked about 2 misses.

*shrug*

I don't remember the context to be honest, just a few words of the post. I'd still kill you for it. And for your lack of reasonable town reads coming into today.

NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Mon Sep 13, 2021 8:45 pm JJJ is just busy for the sake of being busy, his posting D1 felt the same tbh, no substance.

I would also kill Sloonei.

I will probably die today.

Town loss, let's go.

NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Mon Sep 13, 2021 8:34 pm

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Mon Sep 13, 2021 8:33 pm

NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Mon Sep 13, 2021 8:31 pm Dolby + TSP + the PRs, that's 5/6 of my quota for town reads @JaggedJimmyJay. So that's an easy 6 for you.

Remember that one of those non-vanilla players cannot claim; they don't know they're a thing. That would be four though, sure. Thanks.

I mean, that and the fact that I'm obviously lock town for yesterday, Sig flip. If you don't see it, then you're probably just mafia, because I don't think you're bad.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Mon Sep 13, 2021 7:56 pm We need a POE pool of 6 with all 4 mafia in it. That equates to needing 6 town reads (not including either oneself or SPF). At the moment that feels like a steep number to achieve. Quick exercise for anyone willing to engage:

If you had to bank the game on four people being town not including SPF, who would you choose?

Son of Anarch wrote: ↑Mon Sep 13, 2021 7:22 pm Ah man, can't say I'm stoked about that at all. My Internet was down until around this aftenoon so backreadin' wasn't really possible for me. I'm gonna say though that I still think Falcon Man's EOD wasn't the greatest and I'd like to hear some of the other thoughts on that.

Another interestin' thing is that if SPF is poisoned that might reflect well on the triad 'cause they were kinda all huddlin' together, yeah? Normally if you're tryin' to pocket someone you don't kill them. That's just a basic read though.

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Mon Sep 13, 2021 7:11 pm @staypositivefriend has been poisoned in the night, and will die at eod.

Hammer is at 7, and eod is september 15, 7pm edt.

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@dolby
@Dyslexicon
@falcon45ca
@G-Man
@ilario
@JaggedJimmyJay
@Johanna
@Lime Coke
@Marmot
@NotAnAxehole
@Sloonei
@Son of Anarch
@TonyStarkPrime

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Sun Sep 12, 2021 1:08 pm

ilario wrote: ↑Sun Sep 12, 2021 11:32 am

ilario wrote: ↑Sun Sep 12, 2021 11:29 am I will admit, sloonei trying to avoid giving a read on JJJ is pretty towny and letting everyone develop their on stances on him naturally. I think as mafia he would probably feel more obligated to make his stance clear on jjj in a world where jjj is town.

However if this is what sloonei does regularly then my point doesn’t stand but I assume someone will correct me if I’m wrong

Oh yeah, the "I'll wait to give a read" thing, I think I've seen them both do to each other. Kind of hot tbh.

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Sun Sep 12, 2021 1:36 pm

ilario wrote: ↑Sun Sep 12, 2021 12:19 pm Well it’s 2am here and imma go sleep. I have class early tomorrow but I’ll probably be able to get in for a bit to put a vote down. A lot can change between now and then and rather putting an uninformed vote I’m gonna trust my vote to the triad. @Son of Anarch @Dyslexicon my vote is all yours just ping me with your thoughts sometime towards eod and I’m Happy to sheep for today.

My only person poe rn probably looks
Something like tsp/lime(sadly this might be the first time I sr you on a day 1 like ever so I hope I’m not wrong)/maybe falcon or dolby, potentially sig?

But yeah I’d imagine a lot will change from now till eod so imma ride it out with the triad.

Can I ask where you live?

My PoE is similar, add Johanna and G-man.
Kind of think Sig is just mafia here though.
But day is still not over.
Triad power!

Marmot wrote: ↑Sat Sep 11, 2021 1:35 am

Lime Coke wrote: ↑Sat Sep 11, 2021 1:32 am

Marmot wrote: ↑Sat Sep 11, 2021 1:30 am
Sloonei: I'd vote for responding to a joke post with an deadpan question.

Wait where did he do that at?

My reason for voting him is also a joke.

But I'm talking about this exchange.


The reason I'd stated interest in voting for LC was that when I first joined the thread, you'd been pretty quick in responding to my posts, but took much longer to respond to my question asking about scumreads. But I also see that you were interacting with someone else, and your response is agreeable in the sense that I believe what you said, so I'm willing to walk that back for now.

Marmot wrote: ↑Sat Sep 11, 2021 1:30 am Pending his response about scumreads, I'd vote LC if the day ended right now.

Sloonei: I'd vote for responding to a joke post with an deadpan question.

JJJ and TSP: no qualms with either yet.

Marmot wrote: ↑Sun Sep 12, 2021 1:15 am

Dolby wrote: ↑Sun Sep 12, 2021 1:12 am

Marmot wrote: ↑Sun Sep 12, 2021 1:10 am

Dolby wrote: ↑Sun Sep 12, 2021 12:59 am Marmot is just w/e

The only things that I care about are the LC and Sloonei SRs and I don't think that either are scummy

You scumread them, but you don't?

I don't scumread either

What I meant is that the scumreads from you aren't scummy. Ie. I don't think that they come from a scum mindset.

Erm, my scumread of Sloonei was a joke and I walked back my initial ping regarding Lime Coke. I thought I'd stated both of those things in the thread (definitely the latter, and I believe yes on the former). Why don't you find them coming from a scum mindset?

I have no updates on either read at this moment.

Marmot wrote: ↑Sun Sep 12, 2021 1:22 am

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sun Sep 12, 2021 1:20 am

Marmot wrote: ↑Sun Sep 12, 2021 1:16 am

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sun Sep 12, 2021 1:14 am

Marmot wrote: ↑Sun Sep 12, 2021 1:09 am I'm tired and don't want to read 400 posts.

Who wants to chat?

How’s this game feeling so far?

I left the thread ~24 hours ago with no inkling of a scumteam and a couple light townreads and that hasn't changed.

Yourself?

I’ve been able to hover around all day today and I feel pretty good about a relatively large group of town reads. I lack any definitive suspects though, and would like to actually have a tangible suspicion against somebody as we crawl toward the deadline.

Suspect me, I dare you.

Marmot wrote: ↑Sun Sep 12, 2021 1:26 am

staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Sun Sep 12, 2021 12:03 am jaggedjimmyjay
sloonei
dyslexicon
sonofanarch
illario
lime coke
notanaxehole
dolby
johanna
g-man
falcon
TSP
marmot
sig

rough snapshot of where my brain is at. i feel good about jagged/sloonei/dizzy/sonofanarch being villagers, and in a world where there is a wolf within these names, i believe that it would only be one. i townread limecoke/illario as well - i think that limecoke has consistently gotten more and more villagery as the day has gone on, and i think that illario has been villagery from the moment the game started - the only reason he isn't in my "confident town" tier is because i know how strong his wolf game is, and how bad i can be at reading him lol

falcon has made no impression on me so far. TSP is mildly wolfy solely because his posts don't make sense to me.

marmot is low in my list because as much as i love the GIF in https://www.mafiathesyndicate.com/viewt ... 76#p855876, i think the way marmot talks about TSP feels overly hedgy/cautious. sig is low in my list for obvious reasons

i do not think this is The Solve, and looking at this list more, i actually suspect i'm misreading someone in my list of towns (perhaps i should be taking a closer look at my read on Son Of Anarch - i wrote him off as town almost immediately when i have no idea what his range is like or how competent of a wolf he is), but i think it's a good enough place to start. current feeling is that there's a wolf or two in the bottom 4 names and then another wolf or two in the zero posters, and then one final wolf in the upper tier. that might an overtly convoluted way to explain my reads, but it's just how i'm looking at the game rn

AMA

Your list of suspects is kinda standard Syndicate LHF.

Marmot wrote: ↑Sun Sep 12, 2021 1:38 am Well, I'm reading SPF's ISO and there's some damn good content.

Her take on sig earlier today was quite nuanced and one I would expect more from a townie player as opposed to a scum player for that reason. I saw that it does include a response to Dizzy, but I don't think that implicates Dizzy like I think SPF implied.

I'm also probably going to volume-clear Dizzy for Day 1. In the last game I hosted, he played as scum, and didn't really post that all that much until he had to.

Marmot wrote: ↑Sun Sep 12, 2021 1:56 am Should I pull quotes, or can I just say that it looks like TSP is trying to move the thread in a direction without doing the work to make it happen and it isn't working? In this case, the direction is to point out that sig is town.

Marmot wrote: ↑Sun Sep 12, 2021 2:09 am I read sig's ISO. It's 12 posts. It's not townie. I could see him being town, but I could also see him being scum. I can't make up my mind on him right now. I can't tell what he's trying to do, except pick a fight with a player that's roleclaimed. Those are the kind of waves that, at least to me, don't make sense for a scum player to make.

I'd love feedback on this take.

Marmot wrote: ↑Sun Sep 12, 2021 10:05 am

NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Sun Sep 12, 2021 9:22 am

Marmot wrote: ↑Sun Sep 12, 2021 1:38 am Well, I'm reading SPF's ISO and there's some damn good content.

Her take on sig earlier today was quite nuanced and one I would expect more from a townie player as opposed to a scum player for that reason. I saw that it does include a response to Dizzy, but I don't think that implicates Dizzy like I think SPF implied.

I'm also probably going to volume-clear Dizzy for Day 1. In the last game I hosted, he played as scum, and didn't really post that all that much until he had to.

This post is entirely pockets / perhaps a partner slipped in there. Its entirely fluff and no substance.

I feel the same way about JJJ, working pretty hard, but has nothing interesting to say.

Is there a difference in your mind between people who are working hard with nothing interesting to say, and people working hard in order to look town?

Marmot wrote: ↑Sun Sep 12, 2021 10:10 am I'm not sold on a Dolby TR yet. I've been trying to explain that my SR of Sloonei was a joke, but he still maintains that I was serious, and that he TR's me for it. Reason being, I expect scum to lock themselves into reads more, and I expect townies to be more fluid.

ilario wrote: ↑Sun Sep 12, 2021 11:29 am I will admit, sloonei trying to avoid giving a read on JJJ is pretty towny and letting everyone develop their on stances on him naturally. I think as mafia he would probably feel more obligated to make his stance clear on jjj in a world where jjj is town.

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sun Sep 12, 2021 11:28 am At present I am not uncomfortable voting for either marmot or sig. it is slightly worrying that I don’t have any names beyond those two.

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Sun Sep 12, 2021 11:16 am

ilario wrote: ↑Sun Sep 12, 2021 11:03 am say we elim 2 towns back to back, then would you entertain the idea of him being in a poll?

These kind of questions are tire spinners....there's a whole game to be played in between these 2 hypothetical mislynches, and that is what we should be using to determine a player being in the POE

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Sun Sep 12, 2021 8:44 am The Tale of the Two Triads.

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Sun Sep 12, 2021 8:20 am

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sun Sep 12, 2021 12:35 am

I feel left out and hours apart. Can I be the blank space in the middle at least?