The Syndicate

did this game consist of 31 or 32 players? i'm trying to compile a list of mech things rn

Phil and Gloria wrote: ↑Sat Jan 29, 2022 8:54 pm
alexa wrote: ↑Sat Jan 29, 2022 8:53 pm did this game consist of 31 or 32 players? i'm trying to compile a list of mech things rn
where is the confidence?

hm? that was a question

Mechanical Things/Dead Players/Alive Players:

Alive: 29
112
alexa - Has mech info on nutella's role & a vig
Alison
Belzy
BoKnows
c4e5g3d5 - Has a vig
Creature
DrWilgy
dyachei - Shot Marmot (W)
Dyslexicon
EnderWiggin
falcon45ca
Guillotine
hollowkatt
ilario
Justplayingitcool
LinearPoint
Master Radishes
NotAnAxehole
nutella
Paopan
Phil and Gloria
Porscha
sabie12
Seanzie
sig
Sloonei
TonyStarkPrime
Urist

6 wolves alive

Dead Wolf: 1
Marmot

Dead Village: 2
KZA
Scotty

Phil and Gloria wrote: ↑Sat Jan 29, 2022 8:56 pm
alexa wrote: ↑Sat Jan 29, 2022 8:55 pm
Phil and Gloria wrote: ↑Sat Jan 29, 2022 8:54 pm
alexa wrote: ↑Sat Jan 29, 2022 8:53 pm did this game consist of 31 or 32 players? i'm trying to compile a list of mech things rn
where is the confidence?
hm? that was a question
you just seem to be lacking in it

obviously i was lacking in my confidence of if there were 31 or 32 players because i asked the question

i thought there were 32 but i saw an alison comment saying there was 31 and was checking with the hydra thing

Seanzie wrote: ↑Sat Jan 29, 2022 9:02 pm
alexa wrote: ↑Sat Jan 29, 2022 8:57 pm Mechanical Things/Dead Players/Alive Players:

Alive: 29
112
alexa - Has mech info on nutella's role & a vig
Alison
Belzy
BoKnows
c4e5g3d5 - Has a vig
Creature
DrWilgy
dyachei - Shot Marmot (W)
Dyslexicon
EnderWiggin
falcon45ca
Guillotine
hollowkatt
ilario
Justplayingitcool
LinearPoint
Master Radishes
NotAnAxehole
nutella
Paopan
Phil and Gloria
Porscha
sabie12
Seanzie
sig
Sloonei
TonyStarkPrime
Urist

6 wolves alive

Dead Wolf: 1
Marmot

Dead Village: 2
KZA
Scotty
Not sure it is a good idea to keep an updated mech table in thread with the whole "soup kill" thing. Like sure, mafia probably making this in mafia chat, but... we don't need to make it easy for them?

i thought of this but i mainly included the prizes won from events, i intentionally didn't note anyone softing roles or anything like that

i think paopan may be town rn based on his response and my spiritual vote is not on him, just haven't figured out where to go yet

@dyachei what's your read on me rn?

Phil and Gloria wrote: ↑Sat Jan 29, 2022 9:45 pm @alexa why aren't you just shooting paopan?

re-valled after last night and his ass essay responding and im not sure he's a wolf

alexa wrote: ↑Sat Jan 29, 2022 9:46 pm
Phil and Gloria wrote: ↑Sat Jan 29, 2022 9:45 pm @alexa why aren't you just shooting paopan?
re-valled after last night and his ass essay responding and im not sure he's a wolf

huge ass*

Seanzie wrote: ↑Sat Jan 29, 2022 9:52 pm
alexa wrote: ↑Sat Jan 29, 2022 9:44 pm i think paopan may be town rn based on his response and my spiritual vote is not on him, just haven't figured out where to go yet

@dyachei what's your read on me rn?
Can I ask why you were so concerned with who Pao has played with before?

Like I get you thought there was a slip, but why would knowing who has played with Paopan help there?

there are a lot of outstanding players in this player list.

if paopan hadn't played with anyone besides me/scotty, it would make more sense for them to have that view point kind of??

a lot of the responses to my @ were people saying they haven't played with him which increases my "cold feet"

[VOTE: UNVOTE] aubergine

i did not think this was necessary before i decided a new vote but someone commented about me voting here meaning i should just vig here and i tr them now

@ilario btw if you're not aware me and c4 have a day vig we need to use today

@Paopan talk to me about your read on sabie?

without iso'ing them i surface-level remember some kinda pingy posts but nothing that without iso'ing struck me as a hard wolf tell

i don't want to kill sabie12 is that is a thing

alexa wrote: ↑Sat Jan 29, 2022 10:33 pm i don't want to kill sabie12 is that is a thing

if*

.-.

idk if they are sussed at all but their last post seemed villagery

dyachei wrote: ↑Sat Jan 29, 2022 10:34 pm
alexa wrote: ↑Sat Jan 29, 2022 10:33 pm i don't want to kill sabie12 is that is a thing
what are your thoughts on MR?

no thoughts head empty

Spoiler: show

also "classic MR energy" does not mean "classic town MR energy" it literally means what i said

what are your thoughts on him?

Justplayingitcool wrote: ↑Sat Jan 29, 2022 4:47 am I want to kill marmot just for this post

Marmot wrote: ↑Sat Jan 29, 2022 12:17 am Is there a red on nutella too? I really did miss a lot.

just want to add from my backreading that this hard spews me V/not partnered w/marmot

JPIC prolly V

why are people considering dizzy scummy? i'm still in process of rring but i do not see this at all and historically i have a very good read on them, if that matters

dude idk why the heck guillo guillo pressures me for "outing" him as day vig then claims night vig

i am still sus of that slot.

-tsp V

im tired

tsp V

[VOTE: GUILLOTINE] aubergine

Has anyone claimed any of these shots

For the record I still haven't shot

Tbh I am in bed but I got the discord notification lol

Hey my god read on Bo was good

#2950 feels very towny for Dizzy, I say without reading any of his other posts but yeah

What is the foundation of the push on him?

sabie12 wrote: ↑Sat Jan 29, 2022 11:45 pm
alexa wrote: ↑Sat Jan 29, 2022 11:30 pm why are people considering dizzy scummy? i'm still in process of rring but i do not see this at all and historically i have a very good read on them, if that matters
I'm thinking because they were defending marmot who flipped mafia. I don't know if that's a norm for them though to defend a teammate like that.

Oh Sabie answered me before

Is that the only reason

I don't think defending Marmot makes Dizzy a wolf and I don't think he can be read that way. I don't want to give my god read on him yet but GTH he is a villager.

Master Radishes wrote: ↑Sat Jan 29, 2022 3:58 am
Marmot wrote: ↑Fri Jan 28, 2022 11:49 pm Dear wolves,

Let’s make this clear so you don’t waste your time: I will not be one of your miselims this game.

You will soon think I could be, of course. Even with the postcap I will likely not be able to keep up with the tryhards on this roster, and I will inevitably be perceived as low-hanging fruit. ‘Marmot will be an easy chop’ you’ll think. ‘Probably a flash wagon candidate.’

But you will be mistaken. You simply won’t be able to mis-elim me. Not this time. I will pull out the WIM when I need to. I have tricks up my sleeves. In fact, save me the energy and just treat this post as an inno child claim. I am for all your intents and purposes untouchable. If you decide you want me out of this game, you will need to spend a kill on me.

It is not your fault you randed wolf, and I am nothing if not sympathetic to an unfortunate rand, so I give you this warning now to help you plan around it. Everyone deserves a fair shot.

In the words of Descartes, ‘I post therefore I am town’. Or, in the words of a more modern philosopher, ‘U Kant touch this’.

Good luck, wolves. Just don’t say I didn’t warn you.
No don't this just gets you vigged instead.

this is kind of iconic in retrospect

#1405

leaning town on Ender

Belzy wrote: ↑Sat Jan 29, 2022 5:13 am Why is this important to you? The answer is no, I never played with paopan.

because, if me/Scotty were the only people Pao played with, that would be the only way i could realistically see him having the earlier thought of picking me. which i'd thought was a scum slip, but i changed my mind after his big wall post

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Sat Jan 29, 2022 6:33 am But also there’s a lot of pretty hot and cute people in this game, so that helps.

I have one read and that is Guillo town. I’ll explain if that is controversial, but I don’t expect it to be.

@Dyslexicon please do

I'm very confident he's in his wolf range right now.

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Sat Jan 29, 2022 6:46 am
Justplayingitcool wrote: ↑Sat Jan 29, 2022 6:40 am
Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Sat Jan 29, 2022 6:33 am But also there’s a lot of pretty hot and cute people in this game, so that helps.

I have one read and that is Guillo town. I’ll explain if that is controversial, but I don’t expect it to be.
I saw exactly one post from guillo last night and my gut was leaning towards town as well. I don't remember what that post was
He said he was gonna destroy wolves and gets things done on his own. And I kind of buy it, seems unnecessary flowery as a mafia lie.

he does this as both alignments, and can be over-performative about it as wolf

Belzy wrote: ↑Sat Jan 29, 2022 6:58 am
Master Radishes wrote: ↑Sat Jan 29, 2022 6:53 am Also, as someone who never reads the OP...did no one read the OP?

Like the first lines from Nanook demand and plead with you to read it. It has clearly stated from the beginning the whole 'choose mates or choose roles' thing.

No one is allowed to be derpcleared from this.
I cannot find the picking teammates bit. In which spoiler is it? I do read the soup kill part now. @Dyslexicon omg, there is a soupkill this game!! At least we know what that means

i low-key agree with MR's original sentiment, but Belzy doubling down here feels villagy to me

nutella wrote: ↑Sun Jan 30, 2022 1:36 pm
Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Sun Jan 30, 2022 7:33 am Does anyone town read me? lol. It's like someone says a read on me, and then everyone has that read. It pretty much happens every game. If the game has enough of the right people in it, the read will be scum. It's very predictable. Not to be all boss bitch, but I haven't lost a game I was mafia in for years. And now everyone thinks they know how to read me and how I work. Oh yes, must be obvious scum. I mean, it's fine. But if I'm right about my strongest town reads and they scum read me back, maybe remember that for next game this time? Thanks for coming to my self pity ted talk.
Was wondering when this point would come up. Hmm

his whole series of posting to me these past 2 pages felt very philo mafia 2 to me

and like, i have a ton of respect for dizzy's scum game and i know he'd be capable of that as mafia but the emotions in practice, i hadn't seen to the same degree in his scum games i'd read

I've caught up to the Dizzy stuff on Marmot now

I get the surface-level "bad look" but I don't think scum usually goes "let's let them live, I think their alignment will be obvious by day 2" about their buddies.

Guillo voting Dizzy for calling him town feels like w!Guillo #1502

v!Guillo usually has a ton of town entitlement/things he's towny and doesn't react that way to townreads, from what I've seen

alexa wrote: ↑Sun Jan 30, 2022 1:41 pm Guillo voting Dizzy for calling him town feels like w!Guillo #1502

v!Guillo usually has a ton of town entitlement/thinks he's towny and doesn't react that way to townreads, from what I've seen

ebwop

Urist wrote: ↑Sun Jan 30, 2022 1:44 pm You haven't used your shot yet right alexa?

No, don't plan to until I'm completely caught up on the game

ehhh dizzy townreading me so easily does give me some mild paranoia but it's true that he's had a good read on me and i think i've been objectively towny so i wouldn't really read into it

Urist wrote: ↑Sun Jan 30, 2022 1:47 pm Please use it within the next hour or so, so that people who can't be around for dl (me) can make an informed vote

i don't know if i'll be able to fully catch up in an hour and i'd rather use it when i'm as informed as possible, but i assure you it'll be well before EOD (let's say, i'll give myself until 3 PM EST at the latest)

alexa wrote: ↑Sun Jan 30, 2022 1:24 pm
Belzy wrote: ↑Sat Jan 29, 2022 5:13 am Why is this important to you? The answer is no, I never played with paopan.
because, if me/Scotty were the only people Pao played with, that would be the only way i could realistically see him having the earlier thought of picking me. which i'd thought was a scum slip, but i changed my mind after his big wall post

to clarify because i'm reading through p.34, i still don't townread paopan and even scum lean him for meta reasons, but realistically i don't think he scum slipped and he could be any alignment

Guillotine wrote: ↑Sun Jan 30, 2022 2:13 pm @alexa if you have the shot, shoot me.

Everone else, when you see my flip! Chop Alexa, you will understand why? Just remember her little stunt with Nutella upon my flip

I bet Alexa will not have the ovaries to shoot me though, because she is a chicken when she rands scum.

I cant be here the rest of the day and im known to freeze when i rand scum in mashes, so Phil vote on me is townie because i think that is why Mac is voting me.

Good luck town.

lmao WTF is this reaction

how can you repeatedly say your wolf range is infinite and that people shouldn't be townreading you then react like this to me wanting you shot?

i don't want to shoot you if you're a villager. this is not because i'm a "cowardly wolf" it's because i want to shoot right dude

Guillotine wrote: ↑Sun Jan 30, 2022 2:23 pm
alexa wrote: ↑Sun Jan 30, 2022 2:16 pm
Guillotine wrote: ↑Sun Jan 30, 2022 2:13 pm @alexa if you have the shot, shoot me.

Everone else, when you see my flip! Chop Alexa, you will understand why? Just remember her little stunt with Nutella upon my flip

I bet Alexa will not have the ovaries to shoot me though, because she is a chicken when she rands scum.

I cant be here the rest of the day and im known to freeze when i rand scum in mashes, so Phil vote on me is townie because i think that is why Mac is voting me.

Good luck town.
lmao WTF is this reaction

how can you repeatedly say your wolf range is infinite and that people shouldn't be townreading you then react like this to me wanting you shot?

i don't want to shoot you if you're a villager. this is not because i'm a "cowardly wolf" it's because i want to shoot right dude
@alexa I hard claim screamer. The alignment and identity of the player that kills me is revealed in the thread. If you are town and wanna be inno child, just shoot me.

It does not work for soup kills though. So there, im dead either way, take the shot and carry us to victory if you are town

@Guillotine is it a full role reveal?

because if so i'll literally just get soup killed

Guillotine wrote: ↑Sun Jan 30, 2022 2:30 pm
alexa wrote: ↑Sun Jan 30, 2022 2:25 pm
Guillotine wrote: ↑Sun Jan 30, 2022 2:23 pm
alexa wrote: ↑Sun Jan 30, 2022 2:16 pm
Guillotine wrote: ↑Sun Jan 30, 2022 2:13 pm @alexa if you have the shot, shoot me.

Everone else, when you see my flip! Chop Alexa, you will understand why? Just remember her little stunt with Nutella upon my flip

I bet Alexa will not have the ovaries to shoot me though, because she is a chicken when she rands scum.

I cant be here the rest of the day and im known to freeze when i rand scum in mashes, so Phil vote on me is townie because i think that is why Mac is voting me.

Good luck town.
lmao WTF is this reaction

how can you repeatedly say your wolf range is infinite and that people shouldn't be townreading you then react like this to me wanting you shot?

i don't want to shoot you if you're a villager. this is not because i'm a "cowardly wolf" it's because i want to shoot right dude
@alexa I hard claim screamer. The alignment and identity of the player that kills me is revealed in the thread. If you are town and wanna be inno child, just shoot me.

It does not work for soup kills though. So there, im dead either way, take the shot and carry us to victory if you are town
@Guillotine is it a full role reveal?

because if so i'll literally just get soup killed
No. But besides this piece of info is important:

Mod confirmed roles in the thread can never be souped! I run games with soup kills and the first thing i tell scum is that roles or flavor that are mod confirmed in the thread cannot be souped and Nanook has seen them and i'd like to think he learnt from me. Maybe

okay. it's tempting NGL but no one thinks i'm a wolf anyway and i think that makes you not a wolf

and if i shoot an actual wolf i can clear myself that way anyway. plus mafia is literally going to be forced to kill me due to my role regardless. so idk if the benefits of being cleared today are worth shooting you if i think you are a villager.

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Sun Jan 30, 2022 2:39 pm
alexa wrote: ↑Sun Jan 30, 2022 2:38 pm
Guillotine wrote: ↑Sun Jan 30, 2022 2:30 pm
alexa wrote: ↑Sun Jan 30, 2022 2:25 pm
Guillotine wrote: ↑Sun Jan 30, 2022 2:23 pm
alexa wrote: ↑Sun Jan 30, 2022 2:16 pm
Guillotine wrote: ↑Sun Jan 30, 2022 2:13 pm @alexa if you have the shot, shoot me.

Everone else, when you see my flip! Chop Alexa, you will understand why? Just remember her little stunt with Nutella upon my flip

I bet Alexa will not have the ovaries to shoot me though, because she is a chicken when she rands scum.

I cant be here the rest of the day and im known to freeze when i rand scum in mashes, so Phil vote on me is townie because i think that is why Mac is voting me.

Good luck town.
lmao WTF is this reaction

how can you repeatedly say your wolf range is infinite and that people shouldn't be townreading you then react like this to me wanting you shot?

i don't want to shoot you if you're a villager. this is not because i'm a "cowardly wolf" it's because i want to shoot right dude
@alexa I hard claim screamer. The alignment and identity of the player that kills me is revealed in the thread. If you are town and wanna be inno child, just shoot me.

It does not work for soup kills though. So there, im dead either way, take the shot and carry us to victory if you are town
@Guillotine is it a full role reveal?

because if so i'll literally just get soup killed
No. But besides this piece of info is important:

Mod confirmed roles in the thread can never be souped! I run games with soup kills and the first thing i tell scum is that roles or flavor that are mod confirmed in the thread cannot be souped and Nanook has seen them and i'd like to think he learnt from me. Maybe
okay. it's tempting NGL but no one thinks i'm a wolf anyway and i think that makes you not a wolf

and if i shoot an actual wolf i can clear myself that way anyway. plus mafia is literally going to be forced to kill me due to my role regardless. so idk if the benefits of being cleared today are worth shooting you if i think you are a villager.
Have you claimed a role

not outright because i don't want to be souped. but i claimed information and my PR is good.

c4e5g3d5 wrote: ↑Sat Jan 29, 2022 5:15 pm In only 10 posts, Porscha has

Porscha wrote: ↑Sat Jan 29, 2022 4:31 pm hi guys. glad to see this is like 30-something pages in already lol...

Porscha wrote: ↑Sat Jan 29, 2022 4:49 pm
Belzy wrote: ↑Sat Jan 29, 2022 4:47 pm
Porscha wrote: ↑Sat Jan 29, 2022 4:45 pm I only read on radish there to clarify
How much of the thread have you read?
about a quarter of it

Porscha wrote: ↑Sat Jan 29, 2022 4:58 pm Might not get to all of the day 1 posts. Amazing amount of posts already tbh, more than I expected even with all these people lol. Sorry if I dont quite catch all of them, but I'll do my best to read as much as I can. And a lot of my reads early on are pretty superficial since there is so much going on, I won't be hard reading this early. Not trying to go too crazy day 1 hehe.
An unnatural number of posts about how they're behind
(Middle one was prompted tho so less bad)

Porscha wrote: ↑Sat Jan 29, 2022 4:44 pm
hollowkatt wrote: ↑Sat Jan 29, 2022 4:42 pm
Justplayingitcool wrote: ↑Sat Jan 29, 2022 3:45 pm I have a red on radishes kill him

Master Radishes wrote: ↑Sat Jan 29, 2022 3:46 pmI cc
I town read this
yeah that's actual comedy. I don't see a reason to not town read radish atm

Porscha wrote: ↑Sat Jan 29, 2022 4:45 pm I only read on radish there to clarify
A TMIey Radish read

Particularly the wording of "I don't see a reason not to townread _______"
That's literally not how townreads work and it especially makes no sense when your reason is "this post is funny" and even more so when you obviously haven't read the rest of his posts

Porscha wrote: ↑Sat Jan 29, 2022 5:05 pm
c4e5g3d5 wrote: ↑Sat Jan 29, 2022 5:04 pm
Porscha wrote: ↑Sat Jan 29, 2022 5:03 pm
c4e5g3d5 wrote: ↑Sat Jan 29, 2022 5:00 pm [VOTE: Porscha] aubergine

Sup
hey gamer what's poppin
You feel wolfy from a glance

Are you a wolf?
laugh and a half, and whether I was or wasn't I'd be saying no either way. seems like a silly question
This overly self-aware response, but could be explained by an MS mentality or something similar

Just all seems pretty wolfy

yes i'm looking at this now

definitely think Porsha could be a wolf

nvm i saw a kinda towny Porsha post around when c4 was contemplating shot

sabie12 wrote: ↑Sun Jan 30, 2022 2:56 pm If alexa and guillo are both town. And alexa shoots guillo and guillo dies and confirms alexa town. Then we have one dead town and alexa role outed that could be souped. Then we have 1 to 2 less town. How would that help us? We've already lost townies to vig shots and it's only day 1 so I'm not seeing how that makes sense. If alexa chooses not to shoot guillo that doesn't tell us anything either because I wouldn't trust that if someone said that to me.

if he is fake he has to be some sort of bomb type role that takes me out with him tbh.

i think he is real though. i think maf!Guillo, unless that exact role, doesn't try to sacrifice himself like that.

112 wrote: ↑Sun Jan 30, 2022 1:27 am
alexa wrote: ↑Sun Jan 30, 2022 1:25 am [VOTE: GUILLOTINE] aubergine
i can 100% see this so not insulting the vote when i ask, but what are your reasons?

hmmm if guillo is V i kinda don't like this, the wording at least feels very awkward to me

FTR, i think guillo's claim is villagery. but i was getting pinged by some of his pushes/comments in early game and felt he was being performative in a way that i've found sticks out more when he is a wolf. but he is also a performative villager at times, it just felt like he was making a bunch of soft pushes all over the place than a push he believed in.

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Sun Jan 30, 2022 3:03 pmIdgi

don't get what?

Phil and Gloria wrote: ↑Sun Jan 30, 2022 1:34 am @alexa what players have vocalised suspicion towards you in this game and what players have prominently defended or shielded you?

@Phil and Gloria why do you ask this?

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