Inception [END]

[Benson]

Long Con
Benson
Creature
Dom
sprityo
Jackofhearts2005
Epignosis
Master Radishes
DFaraday
vanity.
juliets
Elephant
Hyena
112
Michelle
Quin
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME
novaselinenever
Pawn Lelouch
Spiny Creature
Texas Cloverleaf
TonyStarkPrime
Trustworthy Liberal
Rej
nutella
Evenstar
Dragomir
Lady Lambdadelta
iaafr
MacDougall

I dig the spiciness of those wolf reads. Talk me through MacDougal, please. Does he try to facilitate pro-town initiatives regardless of faction?

[sprityo]

We need to get rid of some players. Too many to keep track of.

Hopefully a bunch of no-voters just get shot at night

Still so far away though.

Ugh. And this is just phase 1. If we're doing inception right every phase should get exponentially longer

Pls no. Anything past 120/48 is unplayable, and even that point is hellish.

Imagine when you have been doing 14 days/2 days for at least 3 years

120/48 is how I used to play before I came to the syndicate

[Long Con]

I dig the spiciness of those wolf reads. Talk me through MacDougal, please. Does he try to facilitate pro-town initiatives regardless of faction?

He's quite capable of such a thing. I still think he went TMI earlier, but I'm used to being the only one who believes something like that.

[MacDougall]

[mention]Long Con[/mention] we literally have one shared read which is we both have a town read on Benson. We have some shared nulls (Michelle, DFaraday, Quin) but aside from that read we disagree on literally every other read even slights.

I am confused about what that means aside from that I wanna eat your face.

[MacDougall]

I dig the spiciness of those wolf reads. Talk me through MacDougal, please. Does he try to facilitate pro-town initiatives regardless of faction?

He's quite capable of such a thing. I still think he went TMI earlier, but I'm used to being the only one who believes something like that.

TMI eh?

[sprityo]

group 1 is like probably infested with wolves btw lol

I think we should first rank groups from scummiest to towniest

4,1,5,3,2??

4 is your wolfiest group???

i think 4 is the towniest group. my only big question mark there is pawn, otherwise decent chance all of those are villas

Group 4 gives me the heebie jeebies

[Benson]

I dig the spiciness of those wolf reads. Talk me through MacDougal, please. Does he try to facilitate pro-town initiatives regardless of faction?

He's quite capable of such a thing. I still think he went TMI earlier, but I'm used to being the only one who believes something like that.

Yeah, I definitely wanted to believe it was TMI earlier. But I've been burned SOO many times by putting too much stock into a single instance of ostensible TMI.

[MacDougall]

Also the only reads you share with Creature are Epi and Sprityo slight town. So your reads are pretty out there. How much of the game have you actually read LC?

[sprityo]

@iaafr @Dom @Creature @Long Con @Trustworthy Liberal

So first thing I'd like to try is to get all your reads and put them in a spreadsheet and compare them with each other and with my own reads to see if there are any patterns/common grounds there, to see if anyone has a starkly different opinion etc. It's totally fine if you are null on a lot of people. When I put mine together I realised that I am too. It will be good to see who is flying through all of our radars too.

For reference here is my list.

Benson
iaafr
Jack
Nanook
nutella
vanity.

112
Evenstar
Hyena
juliets
Lexi

DFaraday
Elephant
Pawn
Quin
Rej
Spiny
Tex
Trustworthy

Creature
Dom
Epi
Long Con

Nova
sprityo
Dragomir

What the fuck mac?? >:(

[MacDougall]

I dig the spiciness of those wolf reads. Talk me through MacDougal, please. Does he try to facilitate pro-town initiatives regardless of faction?

He's quite capable of such a thing. I still think he went TMI earlier, but I'm used to being the only one who believes something like that.

Yeah, I definitely wanted to believe it was TMI earlier. But I've been burned SOO many times by putting too much stock into a single instance of ostensible TMI.

Hold up are we still talking about the thing where I exhibited TMI on Dragomir by virtue of accusing others of having TMI on Dragomir?

Because if so consider this.

If I exhibited TMI on Dragomir, am I right that the others did too? Or did I see a bunch of people town reading a townie and decide to try to accuse them all to stop them from getting their townie way? Or is it a mix?

Or did I just get wigged out by the fact that a bunch of people were town reading someone who I thought didn't deserve a town read?

[iaafr]

let's just kill dragomir

[MacDougall]

@iaafr @Dom @Creature @Long Con @Trustworthy Liberal

So first thing I'd like to try is to get all your reads and put them in a spreadsheet and compare them with each other and with my own reads to see if there are any patterns/common grounds there, to see if anyone has a starkly different opinion etc. It's totally fine if you are null on a lot of people. When I put mine together I realised that I am too. It will be good to see who is flying through all of our radars too.

For reference here is my list.

Benson
iaafr
Jack
Nanook
nutella
vanity.

112
Evenstar
Hyena
juliets
Lexi

DFaraday
Elephant
Pawn
Quin
Rej
Spiny
Tex
Trustworthy

Creature
Dom
Epi
Long Con

Nova
sprityo
Dragomir

What the fuck mac?? >:(

You are pinging me with your wim. I am not used to you being so forthcoming with interactivity. I am used to you being a sarcastic angry boy. You feel like someone who cares more than usual.

[iaafr]

[VOTE: dragomir] aubergine

[MacDougall]

[mention]iaafr[/mention] I think we should lynch from this group.

Dragomir, Rej, TonyStarkPrime, Long Con

[MacDougall]

If anyone wants to say something positive about the aforementioned list make your voices heard.

[iaafr]

I like long con he cute

[sprityo]

@iaafr @Dom @Creature @Long Con @Trustworthy Liberal

So first thing I'd like to try is to get all your reads and put them in a spreadsheet and compare them with each other and with my own reads to see if there are any patterns/common grounds there, to see if anyone has a starkly different opinion etc. It's totally fine if you are null on a lot of people. When I put mine together I realised that I am too. It will be good to see who is flying through all of our radars too.

For reference here is my list.

Benson
iaafr
Jack
Nanook
nutella
vanity.

112
Evenstar
Hyena
juliets
Lexi

DFaraday
Elephant
Pawn
Quin
Rej
Spiny
Tex
Trustworthy

Creature
Dom
Epi
Long Con

Nova
sprityo
Dragomir

What the fuck mac?? >:(

You are pinging me with your wim. I am not used to you being so forthcoming with interactivity. I am used to you being a sarcastic angry boy. You feel like someone who cares more than usual.

I AM AN ANGRY BOY DID YOU NOT SEE ME LAST NIGHT

yknow what I just woke up and I have a 24 hour shift today, I’ll come back to this later. last thing I need is a headache on shift

[MacDougall]

Just looking at it right now and TSP has a wagon, Dragomir has one vote, LC and Rej have zero votes. I think the latter two need wagon formation.

[VOTE: Long Con] aubergine

[iaafr]

tonystarkprime said he rly like me and rej townread me in his first list too

I pcojeted

[Trustworthy Liberal]

If anyone wants to say something positive about the aforementioned list make your voices heard.

Asauning that is the list you posted above would I be better for me to read them before or after the groupings

Will be home in 2 hours and be abke to do them at that time

[Benson]

I dig the spiciness of those wolf reads. Talk me through MacDougal, please. Does he try to facilitate pro-town initiatives regardless of faction?

He's quite capable of such a thing. I still think he went TMI earlier, but I'm used to being the only one who believes something like that.

Yeah, I definitely wanted to believe it was TMI earlier. But I've been burned SOO many times by putting too much stock into a single instance of ostensible TMI.

Hold up are we still talking about the thing where I exhibited TMI on Dragomir by virtue of accusing others of having TMI on Dragomir?

Because if so consider this.

If I exhibited TMI on Dragomir, am I right that the others did too? Or did I see a bunch of people town reading a townie and decide to try to accuse them all to stop them from getting their townie way? Or is it a mix?

Or did I just get wigged out by the fact that a bunch of people were town reading someone who I thought didn't deserve a town read?

In the case where you're a wolf, I guess it would be the bolded one? But maybe a mix?

Like I implied, I don't want to get too far with tin-foil like that because it's just as often that villagers say "TMI" type things.

[MacDougall]

If anyone wants to say something positive about the aforementioned list make your voices heard.

Asauning that is the list you posted above would I be better for me to read them before or after the groupings

Will be home in 2 hours and be abke to do them at that time

We have ages, do whatever you want man.

[MacDougall]

Actually fuck this those names have nowhere near enough spice. Let me reassess for a sec.

[Epignosis]

Just looking at it right now and TSP has a wagon, Dragomir has one vote, LC and Rej have zero votes. I think the latter two need wagon formation.

[VOTE: Long Con] aubergine

What the hell for?

[MacDougall]

Benson
Master Radishes
Jack
Nanook

Names that don't have red pings attached to them in my spreadsheet so far.

I was going back over my champs games a few days ago and realised that the GTH exercise actually spewed the entire wolf team in the wc except the way it spewed them was that all of them had almost no scum reads GTH. I would bet this list is wolfy as balls.

[nutella]

also juliets making a wallpost on tsp and apparently taking multiple posts seriously is legitimately scummy, so says my intuition

I have to agree with this. That long post I just read did not sound like a civilian juliets.

Epi, are you saying you agree that I should have seen his jokes as jokes or is there something else that bothers you?

Your tone felt far more accusatory than I would have expected from you Day 1. That's all. I was taken aback.

Ok, appreciate the response. I think that comes from not feeling like I've been accusatory enough when it comes to reads but it's just not my style - I should just stay in my lane.

is this some kind of backhanded AtE or just plain old self-deprecation I actually can't tell

[MacDougall]

Just looking at it right now and TSP has a wagon, Dragomir has one vote, LC and Rej have zero votes. I think the latter two need wagon formation.

[VOTE: Long Con] aubergine

What the hell for?

What have LC and rej done to avoid votes? If they weren't wolves they had votes right? Wolves would have tried to lynch them imo.

[MacDougall]

Hmmm I didn't realise Evenstar and Nutella were voting for Radishes. What did I miss there [mention]nutella[/mention] [mention]Evenstar[/mention]? Last time I checked you two were like arch enemies?

[MacDougall]

Jack and Benson zero votes, zero heat. Clean bois. I need to make you dirty.

[MacDougall]

Okay my brain is spinning I need to stop

[nutella]

Mac I'm not doing that.

Can you at least like just tell me who you suspect right now and/or who your biggest town reads are and I can piece the rest together?

lean bad: hyena, vanity, juliets

lean town: epignosis, nutella (slight)

I do not foresee supporting a Day 1 nutella lynch.

Especially not one based on a graphic damn organizer.

It's a stretch to call that a graphic organizer.

It's a work-related joke meant to amuse myself given what I go through.

You know my occupation... you know i get it.

nutella is cheeky regardless of alignment in my experience.

I think there's sometimes more venom when she's bad.

I agree and almost included that thought. She is harsher, meaner, and I haven't seen that in this game.

Also, I see you hated my ISO too. I'm not likely to try one again. I worked hard and thought it was meaningful but I guess everyone is laughing at it. (I'm not feeling sorry for myself, I guess I'm just not good at it.)

It seems wildly out of character.

hmmmm Dom townreads me and agrees with me on something, is he bad
actually last time we were town together we had spats like normal for a while but eventually had mindmelds so like... it's possible for us to agree as town it just always feels weird to me (also I still ended up mislynching him in that game under exceedingly dumb circumstances)

I just have an automatic flinch reaction whenever Dom isn't tearing apart everything I say, but I think that's a bias I need to chillax on tbh. we have very different approaches to the game, but he's a cool dude and I don't intend to antagonize him all the time without good reason

that being said, at least take my read of hyena a little bit seriously

[Texas Cloverleaf]

stab eva imo

Also hi Mac I decided we're mindmelding again

[Epignosis]

112 - Eh. Would lynch. (Great start, right?)

Benson - I have a few gripes I might get to another time. Benson appears genuine to me. Would not lynch.

Creature - I'm about 0-6 with Creature. I'm willing to go 0-7. Would lynch.

DFaraday - DF has one post and it's about someone who isn't even in the fucking game. Would lynch.

Dom - Dom's late showing should in no way exonerate him. However, I have no interest voting him. Would not lynch.

Dragomir - I am bad at getting Dragomir right, but I don't care. Would lynch.

Elephant - Elephant called my willingness to be lynched "reverse psychology." Anybody who knows me right now knows there is nothing reverse about working as much as I do. Elephant does not know me whatsoever, and I cannot judge Elephant for that. What I can do is judge Elephant for keeping his vote on me despite engaging with others. Would lynch, but not Day 1.

Evenstar - Bad Day 1 lynch. I've said as much and I'm sticking with that. There's a methodology here that I can appreciate even if I think it's loony tunes. What's more appreciable is the fluidity in that approach. Would not lynch.

Hyena - I have expressed my grievances. I am willing to table them for the time being. I know I'll regret it, but then I can just blame nutella if I'm right. I'll leave Hyena alone for now. Would not lynch.

iaafr - There's a commentary here that gives me hope that there's a civilian behind it. Would not lynch.

Jackofhearts2005 - While I agree with nutella that dismantling the graphic organizer would be easy for mafia to do, I don't think that's what Jack did. Would not lynch.

juliets - I had my one grievance, but I'm cool dismissing that particular one. juliets is almost always a bad Day 1 lynch. Would not lynch.

Lady Lambdadelta - "Would lynch." - Lexi "Would lynch." - Angel "Would lynch." - Nyx "....." - Mute

Long Con - I like his style this round. LC is throwing fire from his food truck and he doesn't care who gets in the way. I'll have one Civilian Long Con with extra honey mustard please.

MacDougall - Eh. Mac is trying to hard around the new people. He doesn't do this gimmicky shit any other time. I don't know what to make of it. Bad Day 1 lynch regardless. Make him sweat people.

Master Radishes - The commentary so far looks thoughtful and honest. Would not lynch.

Michelle - No reason to trust Michelle, but no reason to suspect Michelle.

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME - We had a spat. Nanook did not use the situation to manipulate me. I cannot award civilian credit for that, but I don't have a reason to be suspicious either. Would not lynch.

novaselinenever - Off the top of my head, I can't think of a single thing nova has posted. Would lynch.

nutella - I've alluded to my poor track record with nutella many times before and the fact that lately she seems to have my number. I sense honesty and an genuine fire about her.

Pawn Lelouch - I would not lynch Evenstar and Evenstar has a sense that Pawn is doing God's work. I'm inclined to let that pass Day 1. Would not lynch.

Quin - I don't have a strong enough reason to suspect Quin. Would not lynch.

Rej - Rej has seven crappy posts. Would lynch.

Spiny Creature - Would not lynch (replacement candidate anyway)

sprityo - I refuse to vote sprityo Day 1. Or Day 2. Or Day 3. Three Days of sprityodom.

Texas Cloverleaf - Meh. Would not lynch.

TonyStarkPrime - Day 1 cannon fodder. Would not lynch.

Trustworthy Liberal - Meh. Would not lynch.

vanity. - Engagement looks good. Would not lynch.

[Epignosis]

Yeah, I got lazy there at the end. My glass is empty. So is my hourglass, as it were.

[MacDougall]

I do gimmicky shit all the time

[112]

just woke up and gonna catch up soon

[112]

Yeah, I got lazy there at the end. My glass is empty. So is my hourglass, as it were.

the whole thing looked pretty lazy to me

[iaafr]

epignosis's long con entry pings me cuz it's too cutesy but I still think he's town overall?

[Evenstar]

@Pawn Lelouch
@Evenstar
@NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME

Come vote Nutella.

-Mute

They’re town tho

Who is "they?"

Nutella, obviously?

"They" is a plural pronoun. There are a group of people listed here. nutella is one person and merits a singular pronoun. No, it wasn't obvious.

Singular they dates to shakespeare. Stop being a pedant and bow to usage already. :/

[iaafr]

Benson's started reaching the point of too agreeable for me btw

[iaafr]

but he's still one of the people where I'd very strongly regret a mislynch

[iaafr]

fuckit bros let's kill drago

[Pawn Lelouch]

So I just woke up and I have to ask before I make any proper posts. In what world am I considered part of LLD's clique when I explicitly turned down the invitation back in champs?

[Pawn Lelouch]

fuckit bros let's kill drago

Let's go.

[VOTE: Dragomir] aubergine

[Michelle]

i see again the non read 'Elephant is elephant' care to explain TSP?

I am helping explain to Dom that Elephant is an elephant so that he becomes aware that elephant is an elephant because that’s information that is hard to gather.

Good to know I almost thought that Elephant is a fairy.
Really?? Except the wifom, do you have any slight idea about his alignament?

[Michelle]

Btw. good morning. What happened important?

[Michelle]

fuckit bros let's kill drago

Let's go.

[VOTE: Dragomir] aubergine

can you show me where did you suspect Drago previously to see why are you voting him?

[JaggedJimmyJay]

Reminder that votes must be called in the thread AND placed in the poll. The poll is official. Thank you.

[Michelle]

fuckit bros let's kill drago

can you define 'bros'? who are you talking to?

[Benson]

Benson's started reaching the point of too agreeable for me btw

Tbh I agree