Inception [END]

[vanity.]

oh mac's very likely v btw

[Creature]

Welcome to The Great Team Building Exercise of Inception Mafia

So firstly I'm not gonna force anyone to do this but it sounds like a fun idea so I'm gonna do it and if you like the idea then do it as well.

So, I just put the playerlist through random.org. I have created five random groups of six players. Your goal is to communicate only with the players inside of your group for ONE hour. Given where we're at with timezones I think coordinating it across all the players is probably impossible so make that hour whichever hour that you want. Hell if you want to just spend the rest of the day focused on these five players that's fine. Hell even if you just want to give them a cursory look to have some players to hone in on making reads on you can do that too. Basically it's just going to force people to look directly at a smaller set of players. This should help you read these people, perhaps find some townies to work with, hell maybe you'll make some friends even I don't fucking know.

Here are the lists;

Group 1 -
@Benson
@TonyStarkPrime
@Dragomir
@Quin
@Rej
@Lady LambdaDelta

Group 2 -

@MacDougall
@iaafr
@Dom
@Creature
@Long Con
@Trustworthy Liberal

Group 3 -

@112
@NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME
@nutella
@Epignosis
@DFaraday
@novaselinenever

Group 4 -

@Jackofhearts2005
@Spiny Creature
@sprityo
@Pawn Lelouch
@vanity.
@Hyena

Group 5 -

@Elephant
@juliets
@Michelle
@Evenstar
@Master Radishes
@Texas Cloverleaf

Knock yourselves out.

You mean we should focus only on the players inside our own group?

[Creature]

That's actually a great idea

[MacDougall]

You got it

[Epignosis]

Also, I think Evenstar and Mac are scum and that they are distancing from each other. :3

Hoho, I'd like to see an elaboration on this.

Because neither one of them are serious trying to solve me right now, nor are they allowing me to solve them. I feel like Mac in particular doesn't want to interact with me at all. He's SCAAAAARED~! Even though she denied it earlier, Evenstar tried to pocket me earlier.

What have you said that I was meant to interact with? I have hardly noticed you. Forgive me please.

I wish I was scum with her. I wouldn't be this frustrated.

Me trying to provoke and accuse you of not wanting to look responsible if one of your invitees gets lynched D1. All you said was that I was right. :[ There was no denial, no argument about why that's a good thing, etc.

I WANT YOU TO FITE ME, MAC!!! ;[

tbh yuck

After a skim of the iso... just like... i see a player throwing everything to the wall and hoping it sticks

Well imma tell you that's Hyena's town game. Believe me or don't

But what does he do as mafia?

I am presently married to my Hyena vote. nutella, explain why that and I should get a divorce.

He's just town. He's whimsical and does stuff that looks weird but it's mostly to get reactions. Same thing got him in trouble in wc1. I don't really get what your reasons even are but I think they are mostly just a lack of trying to understand his side.

And what does he do when he's bad?

Don't know, sorry. Only played the one game with him.

That's where I'm having a problem relying on your expertise in the field of "clans."

[vanity.]

group 1 is like probably infested with wolves btw lol

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

I’m probably not gonna do that tbh I’d have to spend an hour straight in thread and that seems unlikely to happen rn. Just gonna stick to semi-random pop ins and pings.

[Creature]

group 1 is like probably infested with wolves btw lol

I think we should first rank groups from scummiest to towniest

[Creature]

then each group fights to death and we decide who to lynch based on that ranking

[TonyStarkPrime]

group 1 is like probably infested with wolves btw lol

everyone but me is scum

[TonyStarkPrime]

group 1 is like probably infested with wolves btw lol

I think we should first rank groups from scummiest to towniest

4,1,5,3,2??

[nutella]

[mention]Epignosis[/mention] that's fine, I do admit that I can't be sure he doesn't play similarly as scum, but I think other people who have seen him as scum also believe he's town here, plus I just get a really strong gut feeling that his loose and goofy tone is genuine and he's not hiding anything. he doesn't seem to care much what people think and that's a good sign.

[vanity.]

group 1 is like probably infested with wolves btw lol

I think we should first rank groups from scummiest to towniest

4,1,5,3,2??

4 is your wolfiest group???

i think 4 is the towniest group. my only big question mark there is pawn, otherwise decent chance all of those are villas

[MacDougall]

Before I forget thanks for signing up [mention]Spiny Creature[/mention] and it's totally fine and I hope you get to play again with us

[TonyStarkPrime]

@Benson
@TonyStarkPrime
@Dragomir
@Quin
@Rej
@Lady LambdaDelta

Okay where’s Rej?
LLD what’s your shtick and why should I care
Quin you’re in this game???
Benson, hi. Two town reads and two scum reads.
And Drago what’s up with you? Three particular anti aligned pairs, groups that aren’t w/w.

[TonyStarkPrime]

group 1 is like probably infested with wolves btw lol

I think we should first rank groups from scummiest to towniest

4,1,5,3,2??

4 is your wolfiest group???

i think 4 is the towniest group. my only big question mark there is pawn, otherwise decent chance all of those are villas

For sure 4 scummiest but also probably the swingiest.
I think on average 4 has the most scum. But don’t get me sorting people into groups everyone gets mad

[Epignosis]

@Pawn Lelouch
@Evenstar
@NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME

Come vote Nutella.

-Mute

They’re town tho

Who is "they?"

Nutella, obviously?

"They" is a plural pronoun. There are a group of people listed here. nutella is one person and merits a singular pronoun. No, it wasn't obvious.

[Epignosis]

Look, I object to Dom blindly hopping on the Hyena wagon when he hasn't read anything. If he has read Hyena's iso and come to his own conclusions, then fine. I just want to make sure he's actually giving himself a chance to see hyena town.

Why? I still don't.

what is the "why" in response to?

"I object to Dom hopping on the Hyena wagon when he hasn't read anything."

Would you object to Dom hopping on any wagon given that he hasn't read anything?

[Quin]

Welcome to The Great Team Building Exercise of Inception Mafia

So firstly I'm not gonna force anyone to do this but it sounds like a fun idea so I'm gonna do it and if you like the idea then do it as well.

So, I just put the playerlist through random.org. I have created five random groups of six players. Your goal is to communicate only with the players inside of your group for ONE hour. Given where we're at with timezones I think coordinating it across all the players is probably impossible so make that hour whichever hour that you want. Hell if you want to just spend the rest of the day focused on these five players that's fine. Hell even if you just want to give them a cursory look to have some players to hone in on making reads on you can do that too. Basically it's just going to force people to look directly at a smaller set of players. This should help you read these people, perhaps find some townies to work with, hell maybe you'll make some friends even I don't fucking know.

Here are the lists;

Group 1 -
@Benson
@TonyStarkPrime
@Dragomir
@Quin
@Rej
@Lady LambdaDelta

Group 2 -

@MacDougall
@iaafr
@Dom
@Creature
@Long Con
@Trustworthy Liberal

Group 3 -

@112
@NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME
@nutella
@Epignosis
@DFaraday
@novaselinenever

Group 4 -

@Jackofhearts2005
@Spiny Creature
@sprityo
@Pawn Lelouch
@vanity.
@Hyena

Group 5 -

@Elephant
@juliets
@Michelle
@Evenstar
@Master Radishes
@Texas Cloverleaf

Knock yourselves out.

I can't keep up with the pace of the thread but reading through a group like this is manageable. I'll give some thoughts on them.

[Trustworthy Liberal]

@iaafr
@Dom
@Creature
@Long Con
@Trustworthy Liberal

Yo friends. Let's make a name for our group. I suggest "Mad Phat Money Bucks Superstars".

Also give me the lo-down on your reads atm.

Hello grouping Of people i agree with the name still at work still sketchy on hyena but don't think that's were I want lynch today. Still don't know where I do though wanna read the current major wagons when am home to get a better placement for that.

(It won't stop trying to mention iaafr and i don't know why)

[Epignosis]

I'm bored with my Hyena vote anyway. [VOTE: Lady L.] aubergine

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

@Pawn Lelouch
@Evenstar
@NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME

Come vote Nutella.

-Mute

They’re town tho

Who is "they?"

Nutella, obviously?

"They" is a plural pronoun. There are a group of people listed here. nutella is one person and merits a singular pronoun. No, it wasn't obvious.

“They” is commonly used as a pronoun for a person of uncertain gender (or sometimes as a chosen pronoun, such as in the case of 112). It is or should be obvious from context that “they” referred to Nutella in this case, as I was being asked a direct question about them.

[Epignosis]

@Pawn Lelouch
@Evenstar
@NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME

Come vote Nutella.

-Mute

They’re town tho

Who is "they?"

Nutella, obviously?

"They" is a plural pronoun. There are a group of people listed here. nutella is one person and merits a singular pronoun. No, it wasn't obvious.

“They” is commonly used as a pronoun for a person of uncertain gender (or sometimes as a chosen pronoun, such as in the case of 112). It is or should be obvious from context that “they” referred to Nutella in this case, as I was being asked a direct question about them.

That it's commonly used as such doesn't mean I understood your meaning. It wasn't obvious.

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

I do think Mac’s idea is decent by the by, I would’ve just sorted alphabetically but it’s fine. I would encourage the people that have time to do it to do so.

[vanity.]

if tlib tonystark juliets and 112 contain no wolves this game is gonna be hard as hell for me

[TonyStarkPrime]

Alright grammar prescriptivists, the meaning wasn’t clear, it’s now been clarified, let’s move on

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

@Pawn Lelouch
@Evenstar
@NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME

Come vote Nutella.

-Mute

They’re town tho

Who is "they?"

Nutella, obviously?

"They" is a plural pronoun. There are a group of people listed here. nutella is one person and merits a singular pronoun. No, it wasn't obvious.

“They” is commonly used as a pronoun for a person of uncertain gender (or sometimes as a chosen pronoun, such as in the case of 112). It is or should be obvious from context that “they” referred to Nutella in this case, as I was being asked a direct question about them.

That it's commonly used as such doesn't mean I understood your meaning. It wasn't obvious.

It was if you’re not busy nitpicking and pulling semantics bullshit.

I am no longer interested in this conversation, use your context clues.

[Epignosis]

They’re town tho

Who is "they?"

Nutella, obviously?

"They" is a plural pronoun. There are a group of people listed here. nutella is one person and merits a singular pronoun. No, it wasn't obvious.

“They” is commonly used as a pronoun for a person of uncertain gender (or sometimes as a chosen pronoun, such as in the case of 112). It is or should be obvious from context that “they” referred to Nutella in this case, as I was being asked a direct question about them.

That it's commonly used as such doesn't mean I understood your meaning. It wasn't obvious.

It was if you’re not busy nitpicking and pulling semantics bullshit.

I am no longer interested in this conversation, use your context clues.

Am I pulling semantics bullshit?

If I am, then what is my motive?

[MacDougall]

[mention]iaafr[/mention] [mention]Dom[/mention] [mention]Creature[/mention] [mention]Long Con[/mention] [mention]Trustworthy Liberal[/mention]

So first thing I'd like to try is to get all your reads and put them in a spreadsheet and compare them with each other and with my own reads to see if there are any patterns/common grounds there, to see if anyone has a starkly different opinion etc. It's totally fine if you are null on a lot of people. When I put mine together I realised that I am too. It will be good to see who is flying through all of our radars too.

For reference here is my list.

Benson
iaafr
Jack
Nanook
nutella
vanity.

112
Evenstar
Hyena
juliets
Lexi

DFaraday
Elephant
Pawn
Quin
Rej
Spiny
Tex
Trustworthy

Creature
Dom
Epi
Long Con

Nova
sprityo
Dragomir

[Dom]

nutella is cheeky regardless of alignment in my experience.

I think there's sometimes more venom when she's bad.

This sounds like scum caught for the wrong reasons.

-Angel

I'm not, and I don't see how you can feel so strongly that way just from this one thing. Again, have you at least read any of my other posts?

I can buy what Lamba says here. But I don't see the underlying cause either, so.

I'm just gonna keep trolling until it feels like a real game

which it does not

Do you know you have control of the content of the thread?

also juliets making a wallpost on tsp and apparently taking multiple posts seriously is legitimately scummy, so says my intuition

I have to agree with this. That long post I just read did not sound like a civilian juliets.

I had to go back and find this post being discussed here.
It's yucky.

I do not foresee supporting a Day 1 nutella lynch.

Especially not one based on a graphic damn organizer.

It's a stretch to call that a graphic organizer.

@Epignosis that's fine, I do admit that I can't be sure he doesn't play similarly as scum, but I think other people who have seen him as scum also believe he's town here, plus I just get a really strong gut feeling that his loose and goofy tone is genuine and he's not hiding anything. he doesn't seem to care much what people think and that's a good sign.

Let me get this straight...

you don't know hyena well enough to define their bad game, but feel confident enough to define their civ game?

the fuck?

[Epignosis]

Alright grammar prescriptivists, the meaning wasn’t clear, it’s now been clarified, let’s move on

[VOTE: TonyStarkPrime] aubergine

[Dom]

Mac I'm not doing that.

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

Who is "they?"

Nutella, obviously?

"They" is a plural pronoun. There are a group of people listed here. nutella is one person and merits a singular pronoun. No, it wasn't obvious.

“They” is commonly used as a pronoun for a person of uncertain gender (or sometimes as a chosen pronoun, such as in the case of 112). It is or should be obvious from context that “they” referred to Nutella in this case, as I was being asked a direct question about them.

That it's commonly used as such doesn't mean I understood your meaning. It wasn't obvious.

It was if you’re not busy nitpicking and pulling semantics bullshit.

I am no longer interested in this conversation, use your context clues.

Am I pulling semantics bullshit?

If I am, then what is my motive?

It’s obnoxious, doubt it’s AI.

[MacDougall]

@iaafr
@Dom
@Creature
@Long Con
@Trustworthy Liberal

Yo friends. Let's make a name for our group. I suggest "Mad Phat Money Bucks Superstars".

Also give me the lo-down on your reads atm.

Hello grouping Of people i agree with the name still at work still sketchy on hyena but don't think that's were I want lynch today. Still don't know where I do though wanna read the current major wagons when am home to get a better placement for that.

(It won't stop trying to mention iaafr and i don't know why)

Yeah that bug fucking sucks and I am getting it too

[TonyStarkPrime]

Alright grammar prescriptivists, the meaning wasn’t clear, it’s now been clarified, let’s move on

[VOTE: TonyStarkPrime] aubergine

ooh someone doesn’t like being called a prescriptivist

[MacDougall]

Mac I'm not doing that.

Can you at least like just tell me who you suspect right now and/or who your biggest town reads are and I can piece the rest together?

[JaggedJimmyJay]

For those who have struggled with the mention feature popping up on them randomly: this is caused by previous mentions within a post you are quoting. The easiest way to eliminate this effect is to remove the "@" symbol from the quoted content.

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

Alright grammar prescriptivists, the meaning wasn’t clear, it’s now been clarified, let’s move on

[VOTE: TonyStarkPrime] aubergine

ooh someone doesn’t like being called a prescriptivist

I like you

[Epignosis]

Nutella, obviously?

"They" is a plural pronoun. There are a group of people listed here. nutella is one person and merits a singular pronoun. No, it wasn't obvious.

“They” is commonly used as a pronoun for a person of uncertain gender (or sometimes as a chosen pronoun, such as in the case of 112). It is or should be obvious from context that “they” referred to Nutella in this case, as I was being asked a direct question about them.

That it's commonly used as such doesn't mean I understood your meaning. It wasn't obvious.

It was if you’re not busy nitpicking and pulling semantics bullshit.

I am no longer interested in this conversation, use your context clues.

Am I pulling semantics bullshit?

If I am, then what is my motive?

It’s obnoxious, doubt it’s AI.

It wasn't obnoxious. I did not know your meaning. Hence what you said was not obvious. You adding "obviously" and a question mark was obnoxious. You could have politely answered my question instead of assuming certain motivations about my asking for clarification.

Still, thank you for your answer anyway. I understand.

[Epignosis]

I do not foresee supporting a Day 1 nutella lynch.

Especially not one based on a graphic damn organizer.

It's a stretch to call that a graphic organizer.

It's a work-related joke meant to amuse myself given what I go through.

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

"They" is a plural pronoun. There are a group of people listed here. nutella is one person and merits a singular pronoun. No, it wasn't obvious.

“They” is commonly used as a pronoun for a person of uncertain gender (or sometimes as a chosen pronoun, such as in the case of 112). It is or should be obvious from context that “they” referred to Nutella in this case, as I was being asked a direct question about them.

That it's commonly used as such doesn't mean I understood your meaning. It wasn't obvious.

It was if you’re not busy nitpicking and pulling semantics bullshit.

I am no longer interested in this conversation, use your context clues.

Am I pulling semantics bullshit?

If I am, then what is my motive?

It’s obnoxious, doubt it’s AI.

It wasn't obnoxious. I did not know your meaning. Hence what you said was not obvious. You adding "obviously" and a question mark was obnoxious. You could have politely answered my question instead of assuming certain motivations about my asking for clarification.

Still, thank you for your answer anyway. I understand.

I didn’t assume motivations—finding you annoying is not the same as thinking you’re being intentionally annoying.

And yes, it was obnoxious to me. I don’t care if anyone else found it obnoxious or not.

[Epignosis]

Alright grammar prescriptivists, the meaning wasn’t clear, it’s now been clarified, let’s move on

[VOTE: TonyStarkPrime] aubergine

ooh someone doesn’t like being called a prescriptivist

I don't regard it as an insult. I'm certainly not one, but I'm not a descriptivist either.

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

Eh, poor phrasing. Finding your semantics-humping annoying would be better, I don’t know you well enough to have an opinion either way.

[Epignosis]

“They” is commonly used as a pronoun for a person of uncertain gender (or sometimes as a chosen pronoun, such as in the case of 112). It is or should be obvious from context that “they” referred to Nutella in this case, as I was being asked a direct question about them.

That it's commonly used as such doesn't mean I understood your meaning. It wasn't obvious.

It was if you’re not busy nitpicking and pulling semantics bullshit.

I am no longer interested in this conversation, use your context clues.

Am I pulling semantics bullshit?

If I am, then what is my motive?

It’s obnoxious, doubt it’s AI.

It wasn't obnoxious. I did not know your meaning. Hence what you said was not obvious. You adding "obviously" and a question mark was obnoxious. You could have politely answered my question instead of assuming certain motivations about my asking for clarification.

Still, thank you for your answer anyway. I understand.

I didn’t assume motivations—finding you annoying is not the same as thinking you’re being intentionally annoying.

And yes, it was obnoxious to me. I don’t care if anyone else found it obnoxious or not.

I asked for you to clarify one post I did not understand and you found me annoying?

Yikes.

[Creature]

group 1 is like probably infested with wolves btw lol

I think we should first rank groups from scummiest to towniest

4,1,5,3,2??

Group 1 has like one name at most I'd consider town rn
Group 2 has at least 2, maybe 3
Group 3 I'd say more or less 1.5 to 2?
Group 4 I have two townreads and probably other townleans
Group 5 is worrysome, I'd say one, no 2

Actually going with 1 > 3 > 5 > 2 > 4

though, I'm just counting townreads

[Epignosis]

Eh, poor phrasing. Finding your semantics-humping annoying would be better, I don’t know you well enough to have an opinion either way.

I wasn't trying to argue semantics though. I like arguing semantics. For once I was not doing that. I was trying to determine the subject of your post. It was unclear to me.

If you are unwilling to see my side of it, then I don't know what to say.

[juliets]

I couldn't sleep so I came back and see I've been pinged so let me see if I can address them.

[vanity.]

guess i can entertain your ideas mac, not doing color coding tho

dark green:
hyena
creature
nutella
jack
mr
iaafr

light green:
sprityo
mac
epig
lld
spiny
benson

yellow:
nanook
texas
evenstar
pawn
elephant
rej
long con
drago
dom

orange:
dfaraday
tonystarkprime
juliets
112
quin
michelle
tlib

red:
nova

[Epignosis]

I couldn't sleep so I came back and see I've been pinged so let me see if I can address them.

Guilty conscience?

[Creature]

@iaafr @Dom @Creature @Long Con @Trustworthy Liberal

So first thing I'd like to try is to get all your reads and put them in a spreadsheet and compare them with each other and with my own reads to see if there are any patterns/common grounds there, to see if anyone has a starkly different opinion etc. It's totally fine if you are null on a lot of people. When I put mine together I realised that I am too. It will be good to see who is flying through all of our radars too.

Oh, I thought we made only in-group reads