Felt Mafia 3 [EndGame]

[Roxy]

Oh wow, I had a feeling his flip would go this way if he was elimmed the other day.

I can say with all the certainty of my being that I will be voting my top susp. I should have never let go of it. I feel like somehow we keep overlooking the obv. Rondo.

Neon's idea that we were baited into a Lucy elim could be possible and feels better than admitting we were wrong. But I cannot sugar coat my involvement bc I really thought her un-involvement this game felt the same as last game hence her baddie-ness. I am woman enough to admit I was wrong. I am sorry Lucy.

Going to be doing a bit of driving so I will try to check in later this afternoon/evening.

[sig]

Hey!

Haven’t caught up yet I’m riding this immunity as long as possible but on a serious note I do plan to catch myself up today and come out with some serious reads

Having said that I finally looked at the player list and bad news my meta reads are by and large going to be useless here. Multiple new or one off game players then you’ve got people like Roxy/SVS who were afk for so long can’t really remember how they play. (Pretty sure both were deviously destructive as mafia though so I’m watching you)

If we think mafia is actively baiting mislynched and strategizing 100% we have to vote off Epi and Wilgy that’s classic behavior for them.


Also also I’ve been told that I’m not using pronouns when I text anymore soooooo except me to fall into tiktok typing patterns here shortly and not use pronouns, adverbs, distinguish between their and there (that ones for Epi ) or any other form of proper grammar and sentence constructions.

[Roxy]

His 10th post into D1

Wolf team is Kate / SVS / Quinn

goes onto say game solved in this gem:

Wolf team is Kate / SVS / Quinn

Seriously game is easy solve

But then his very next post:

Spoiler: show

TonyStarkPrime - Town
Neon - Town
Roxy - Town(Could be wolf with Falcon)(Not wolf with Finger)
sabie12 - Town (Possible TMI on my slot)

fingersplints - Soft Town (Not wolf with Wilgy)(Not wolf with Roxy)
Dennis - Soft Town (Not wolf with Wilgy)
Kate - Soft Town (Deep wolf potential)
Lemonfairy - Soft Town

Epignosis - Null
RondoDimBuckle - Null

Lucy - Upper POE
Quin - Upper POE(Not wolf with falcon)
falcon45ca - Upper POE(Not wolf with Quin)(could be wolf with Roxy)

Marmot - Lower POE
DrWilgy - Lower POE (Not wolf with Finger)(Not wolf with Dennis)
S~V~S - Lower POE

Wilgy should have told everyone by now that I am impossible to read and that scum reading me for no posting is a strange position for anyone to take. This is not a defence of Falcon. They should be counter wagons to each other. If Wilgy is right then Falcon needs to go. SVS and Him can potentially have been working the game from two different angles to get into the town core.

I also note that Kate/Quin/SVS the 3 I called out are all on Falcon. So I may have to adjust my reads back.
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[VOTE: Wilgy ] aubergine
Especially since he isnt on the wagon he started.

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Vote as of 24 hours to go roughly
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Vote as of 1 hour to go roughly
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If I die tonight beware anyone touting my reads as gospel

Kate is now "soft town" and he'll need to adjust his reads lol
He flip flops in his own reads about Wigly/falcon (to cover his pahtootie)
Votes Wigly with falcon even though he himself has falcon as "upper poe"

[VOTE: SVS ] aubergine

D 1 comes and votes SVS but then a couple hours later this all happened:

@RondoDimBuckle you are auto baddie bc of your zero involvement this game. I do not like how your posts read nor the ibe I am getting from them. It's like you are phoning it in. probs spending too much time in chat with your teamies.

Incorrect

[VOTE: Wilgy ] aubergine

@RondoDimBuckle you are auto baddie bc of your zero involvement this game. I do not like how your posts read nor the ibe I am getting from them. It's like you are phoning it in. probs spending too much time in chat with your teamies.

Incorrect

[VOTE: Wilgy ] aubergine

prove me wrong.

If you believed it you would have voted me. Just hot air and increases your scum equity. This is my last post for this day phase

He is now voting Wigly and No u'd me

Marmot/Wilgy/SVS

His new baddie people line up but 2 hours later after the elim and his silent, shady vote moves he updated to this:

Marmot/Wilgy/SVS (Epi / Kate can be interchanged)

He is now covering all bases with his 5 person baddie team

I have a red check on Kate

I have a red check on Kate

Whether or not this is a fake peek, I don't think it's allowed via the rules in this particular game.

Oh well that's good to know I will then just admit it is a fake red check and we can move on

Start of D 3 but then SILENCE.

No cases made. No reasons as why we should look at Kate or for that matter any of his baddie picks. Is he helping the town or trying to slink by hoping he can ride for another day.

I have a couple of others I am looking at and will put out my reasons for them in a bit.

[TonyStarkPrime]

sorry for forgetting again
was lucy town

[TonyStarkPrime]

I promise I'm interested in this game

[TonyStarkPrime]

don't feel great about htis wagon but I have one stated read

[TonyStarkPrime]

and tbh we have a few days before I have to worry

[Kate]

I'm here, but barely alive lol. I have covid so I'd really like a chance to address whatever is going on here. I'm civ incase my voters are interested.

[Kate]

Not sure if that made sense or was even in English.

[RondoDimBuckle]

Oh wow, I had a feeling his flip would go this way if he was elimmed the other day.

I can say with all the certainty of my being that I will be voting my top susp. I should have never let go of it. I feel like somehow we keep overlooking the obv. Rondo.

Neon's idea that we were baited into a Lucy elim could be possible and feels better than admitting we were wrong. But I cannot sugar coat my involvement bc I really thought her un-involvement this game felt the same as last game hence her baddie-ness. I am woman enough to admit I was wrong. I am sorry Lucy.

Going to be doing a bit of driving so I will try to check in later this afternoon/evening.

If you really believed this you would have voted me. Second time double -ev

[RondoDimBuckle]

town are sleepwalking through this game.

[sig]

Hello there... It's me, Wilgy.

congratulations on your retirement

Red flag for not being a doctor

[sig]

I've caught up... Falcon and Neon seem to be Mafia.

Neon's energy does not match my expectations, it may be AI... I think.

I don’t see the falcon reasoning or really the reasons for his lynch tbh.

Neons energy was very weird day 1

[sig]

Anyway, I fell asleep in my chair last night after what amounted to basically a 33-hour shift.

For those here who don't know, I retired from teaching this year. I work from home now as a sportswriter and editor, but weekends are nuts, especially now with the NFL giving us Saturday games.

I tried to speed read my way through things, but that wasn't helpful. I'll do better.

Very nice! especially after all those crazy stories about your school and shitty admin staff

[sig]

[quote=Lemonfairy post_id=998703 time=1671303606 user_id=1104]
also, this is the first time I joined a game somewhere new/a new type of game and didn't rand scum
which ig is good but it broke my streak
[/quote]

I like this post

[quote=Neon post_id=999356 time=1671412060 user_id=1083]
[quote=Dennis post_id=999354 time=1671412018 user_id=1114]
[quote=Quin post_id=999340 time=1671411464 user_id=474]
ive identified the entire scum team btw
[/quote]

Go on
[/quote]

I'd advise against going on until tomorrow
[/quote]


Very much don’t like this


[quote=Quin post_id=999576 time=1671449163 user_id=474]
I did think about delaying this until just before the night ends, but I'll be working at the time so I don't have the luxury. Shrug.

methinks scum team is SVS, lucy and Dennis.
[/quote]

This didn’t age well

But, could be a mafia Quin throwing out a fake team? I’ve gotta mull on this for a bit.


[quote=DrWilgy post_id=999633 time=1671464034 user_id=429]
[quote=Neon post_id=999320 time=1671410772 user_id=1083]
[quote=Dennis post_id=999316 time=1671410500 user_id=1114]
Oep. RIP Falcon
[/quote]

Turboing this tomorrow
[/quote]

I kinda agree. The EoD was strange.
[/quote]


[mention]DrWilgy[/mention] you supported the falcon vote so why was it weird?

Not a fan of this turboing for saying rip

[sig]

Ooof those quotes got all messed up

[sig]

Just started day 2

I’m a big fan of Marmot and Roxy so far

I think Quins death is interesting for sure. Makes me a bit suspicious of SVS

Wilgy and Nero raising some flags

Annnnnnd then let’s see I kind of like Lemons post but that’s mainly tone based.

Splints is around I recognize she’s active but can’t recall anything she’s said. Granted I’m doing a fast skim but that’s still not good/very blendy

[Marmot]

The Dennis kill to me shows the woofs aren't being pressured and that we are running way off base. Not surprising really methinks they are using night kills to bait us into easy misexes

I wouldn't be surprised if Wilgy or even Marmot or Epi are woofin

Do you believe this, or is this more of a "my top suspect was nightkilled and now I'm lost" reaction?

[Marmot]

I think it's reasonable to have tin foil theories, but I don't know of anyone except for Kate who would have anything to gain from killing Dennis. Most other wolves would only lose a potential miselim.


Yes I do agree that there are some players who make bonkers kills as wolves (and Wilgy and I are indeed two of those players), but Epi doesn't fall into that category, nor is he really in a position to make suboptimal kills as a wolf imo.

[Marmot]

Hmmm

[VOTE: DrWilgy] aubergine

Where are you bronana?

[Marmot]

I'm here, but barely alive lol. I have covid so I'd really like a chance to address whatever is going on here. I'm civ incase my voters are interested.

I hope you get better soon!!!

[Marmot]

@sig what do you make of lemonfairy beyond their opening post?

[Marmot]

Hello there... It's me, Wilgy.

congratulations on your retirement

Does this make him a post-doc?

[Marmot]

Oh wow, I had a feeling his flip would go this way if he was elimmed the other day.

I can say with all the certainty of my being that I will be voting my top susp. I should have never let go of it. I feel like somehow we keep overlooking the obv. Rondo.

Neon's idea that we were baited into a Lucy elim could be possible and feels better than admitting we were wrong. But I cannot sugar coat my involvement bc I really thought her un-involvement this game felt the same as last game hence her baddie-ness. I am woman enough to admit I was wrong. I am sorry Lucy.

Going to be doing a bit of driving so I will try to check in later this afternoon/evening.

If you really believed this you would have voted me. Second time double -ev

It isn't AI for Roxy to not vote until EOD (and sometimes not make it online to actually place said vote). Back when she was playing regularly, votes were locked every day, so players often didn't vote until near EOD.

[☆Princess Abigail☆]

The Dennis kill to me shows the woofs aren't being pressured and that we are running way off base. Not surprising really methinks they are using night kills to bait us into easy misexes

I wouldn't be surprised if Wilgy or even Marmot or Epi are woofin

Do you believe this, or is this more of a "my top suspect was nightkilled and now I'm lost" reaction?

I believe we are way off base and mafia is laughing in our face by killing Dennis. Yes.

[S~V~S]

Hey all sorry I have been afk, my stepmom had to go to the hospital with chest pains and they’re keeping her overnight.

I’m shot and going to bed, but should be around in the AM and at least part of the day.

Thanks for understanding

[☆Princess Abigail☆]

The Dennis kill to me shows the woofs aren't being pressured and that we are running way off base. Not surprising really methinks they are using night kills to bait us into easy misexes

I wouldn't be surprised if Wilgy or even Marmot or Epi are woofin

Do you believe this, or is this more of a "my top suspect was nightkilled and now I'm lost" reaction?

I believe we are way off base and mafia is laughing in our face by killing Dennis. Yes.

Alternatively SVS is scum and they were trying to discredit Quinns solve so we never went there.

[☆Princess Abigail☆]

Hey all sorry I have been afk, my stepmom had to go to the hospital with chest pains and they’re keeping her overnight.

I’m shot and going to bed, but should be around in the AM and at least part of the day.

Thanks for understanding

Well now I feel awful for that cross-post

I hope everything goes alright

[S~V~S]

Hey all sorry I have been afk, my stepmom had to go to the hospital with chest pains and they’re keeping her overnight.

I’m shot and going to bed, but should be around in the AM and at least part of the day.

Thanks for understanding

Well now I feel awful for that cross-post

I hope everything goes alright

No don’t feel bad, its a game.

And thanks docsvthink she’s ok keeping her for observation, mainly, justvstressful cause holidays.

[Epignosis]

My shift is over until tomorrow.

[Epignosis]

I’m very surprised by that kill. I was still suspicious of Dennis, but it seems I was wrong. Dennis, I hope you know that I think you played well. It’s just the nature of the game. People find little suspicions and it sticks sometimes. It can be very hard to be on the receiving end of it, but you did well for your first time getting lots of suspicion. We all get frustrated during mafia sometimes. It’s ok. I hope you still stick around and play more.

The Dennis kill to me shows the woofs aren't being pressured and that we are running way off base. Not surprising really methinks they are using night kills to bait us into easy misexes

Who do you think they are trying to bait us into? Kate?

I could see that especially as Marmot came in with a vote for her and rondo claimed a fake red check on her.
Of those two, I was town reading Marmot. This fake check is just fuelling my suspicion of rondo.

I think they baited us into Lucy and are now baiting us into Kate

You're telling us what "they" are doing without telling us who "they" are.

Who dey?

(With apologies to JJJ and bwt)

[☆Princess Abigail☆]

I’m very surprised by that kill. I was still suspicious of Dennis, but it seems I was wrong. Dennis, I hope you know that I think you played well. It’s just the nature of the game. People find little suspicions and it sticks sometimes. It can be very hard to be on the receiving end of it, but you did well for your first time getting lots of suspicion. We all get frustrated during mafia sometimes. It’s ok. I hope you still stick around and play more.

The Dennis kill to me shows the woofs aren't being pressured and that we are running way off base. Not surprising really methinks they are using night kills to bait us into easy misexes

Who do you think they are trying to bait us into? Kate?

I could see that especially as Marmot came in with a vote for her and rondo claimed a fake red check on her.
Of those two, I was town reading Marmot. This fake check is just fuelling my suspicion of rondo.

I think they baited us into Lucy and are now baiting us into Kate

You're telling us what "they" are doing without telling us who "they" are.

Who dey?

(With apologies to JJJ and bwt)

I think I made it pretty apparent what I'm thinking actually

[Epignosis]

Also also I’ve been told that I’m not using pronouns when I text anymore soooooo except me to fall into tiktok typing patterns here shortly and not use pronouns, adverbs, distinguish between their and there (that ones for Epi ) or any other form of proper grammar and sentence constructions.

I'll except you all right.

[Epignosis]

town are sleepwalking through this game.

You're the sleepiest one around here.

[Epignosis]

sig charging in here like that is a civilian sig.

[Epignosis]

I’m very surprised by that kill. I was still suspicious of Dennis, but it seems I was wrong. Dennis, I hope you know that I think you played well. It’s just the nature of the game. People find little suspicions and it sticks sometimes. It can be very hard to be on the receiving end of it, but you did well for your first time getting lots of suspicion. We all get frustrated during mafia sometimes. It’s ok. I hope you still stick around and play more.

The Dennis kill to me shows the woofs aren't being pressured and that we are running way off base. Not surprising really methinks they are using night kills to bait us into easy misexes

Who do you think they are trying to bait us into? Kate?

I could see that especially as Marmot came in with a vote for her and rondo claimed a fake red check on her.
Of those two, I was town reading Marmot. This fake check is just fuelling my suspicion of rondo.

I think they baited us into Lucy and are now baiting us into Kate

You're telling us what "they" are doing without telling us who "they" are.

Who dey?

(With apologies to JJJ and bwt)

I think I made it pretty apparent what I'm thinking actually

No you didn't. You made three on-topic posts between this one and now. Here they are:

I now have physical proof I suck at Mafia.

I recorded all my games of mafia and my win rate is atrocious lol

The Dennis kill to me shows the woofs aren't being pressured and that we are running way off base. Not surprising really methinks they are using night kills to bait us into easy misexes

I wouldn't be surprised if Wilgy or even Marmot or Epi are woofin

Do you believe this, or is this more of a "my top suspect was nightkilled and now I'm lost" reaction?

I believe we are way off base and mafia is laughing in our face by killing Dennis. Yes.

The Dennis kill to me shows the woofs aren't being pressured and that we are running way off base. Not surprising really methinks they are using night kills to bait us into easy misexes

I wouldn't be surprised if Wilgy or even Marmot or Epi are woofin

Do you believe this, or is this more of a "my top suspect was nightkilled and now I'm lost" reaction?

I believe we are way off base and mafia is laughing in our face by killing Dennis. Yes.

Alternatively SVS is scum and they were trying to discredit Quinns solve so we never went there.

I don't see who "they" are.

The only thing you offer is S~V~S being bad, but that's "alternatively." So I don't understand why you raise an alternative theory without making your first one clear.

[VOTE: Neon] aubergine

[Epignosis]

If we think mafia is actively baiting mislynched and strategizing 100% we have to vote off Epi and Wilgy that’s classic behavior for them.

You missed the part where I missed the entire first Day and Night phase.

[☆Princess Abigail☆]

I’m very surprised by that kill. I was still suspicious of Dennis, but it seems I was wrong. Dennis, I hope you know that I think you played well. It’s just the nature of the game. People find little suspicions and it sticks sometimes. It can be very hard to be on the receiving end of it, but you did well for your first time getting lots of suspicion. We all get frustrated during mafia sometimes. It’s ok. I hope you still stick around and play more.

The Dennis kill to me shows the woofs aren't being pressured and that we are running way off base. Not surprising really methinks they are using night kills to bait us into easy misexes

Who do you think they are trying to bait us into? Kate?

I could see that especially as Marmot came in with a vote for her and rondo claimed a fake red check on her.
Of those two, I was town reading Marmot. This fake check is just fuelling my suspicion of rondo.

I think they baited us into Lucy and are now baiting us into Kate

You're telling us what "they" are doing without telling us who "they" are.

Who dey?

(With apologies to JJJ and bwt)

I think I made it pretty apparent what I'm thinking actually

No you didn't. You made three on-topic posts between this one and now. Here they are:

I now have physical proof I suck at Mafia.

I recorded all my games of mafia and my win rate is atrocious lol

The Dennis kill to me shows the woofs aren't being pressured and that we are running way off base. Not surprising really methinks they are using night kills to bait us into easy misexes

I wouldn't be surprised if Wilgy or even Marmot or Epi are woofin

Do you believe this, or is this more of a "my top suspect was nightkilled and now I'm lost" reaction?

I believe we are way off base and mafia is laughing in our face by killing Dennis. Yes.

The Dennis kill to me shows the woofs aren't being pressured and that we are running way off base. Not surprising really methinks they are using night kills to bait us into easy misexes

I wouldn't be surprised if Wilgy or even Marmot or Epi are woofin

Do you believe this, or is this more of a "my top suspect was nightkilled and now I'm lost" reaction?

I believe we are way off base and mafia is laughing in our face by killing Dennis. Yes.

Alternatively SVS is scum and they were trying to discredit Quinns solve so we never went there.

I don't see who "they" are.

The only thing you offer is S~V~S being bad, but that's "alternatively." So I don't understand why you raise an alternative theory without making your first one clear.

[VOTE: Neon] aubergine

Well you certainly didn't include all my posts that are indicative of my feelings about this game but *shrugs*

[S~V~S]

So, stepmom is coming home today, apparently they can give you a blood test and theres a certain chemical they can detect only if you have had a recent heart attack, and she did not have one. They kept her overnight for observation, she is pretty elderly, so better safe than sorry. Possible Angina or anxiety. So I'll be doing the cooking today rather than just the guesting, lol.

The Dennis kill to me shows the woofs aren't being pressured and that we are running way off base. Not surprising really methinks they are using night kills to bait us into easy misexes

I wouldn't be surprised if Wilgy or even Marmot or Epi are woofin

Do you believe this, or is this more of a "my top suspect was nightkilled and now I'm lost" reaction?

I believe we are way off base and mafia is laughing in our face by killing Dennis. Yes.

Alternatively SVS is scum and they were trying to discredit Quinns solve so we never went there.

What solve? I thought that was basically discredited when Lucy flipped town? I tend to go more with your framing theory re Dennis' death, so I plan to read back on Kate this AM. I know her pretty well, and I don't know that I see her NKing her kid right before Christmas Especially after he suspected her, although I thought his suspish was a bit of a No U. I think his first game was so sunshine, rainbows and puppies that he was a bit at sea over taking suspish.

[S~V~S]

DrWilgy
Epignosis
fingersplints
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Roxy
Kate
sig (sub for sabie12)
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Lemonfairy
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TonyStarkPrime
Marmot
Neon
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RondoDimBuckle

No colors, just block's o'text. Fairly in order.

I would be pretty shocked if Wilgy, Epi or Splints were bad.
I would not be shocked, but somewhat surprised if Roxy was bad, her game here is totally different than LGM. Kate as well, while it's WIFOM, I don't know that I think she'd set up fake suspish on Dennis, or NK him, especially after he pushed back. I felt pretty good about Sabie. She didn't seem to be following anyone and had her own opinions, so a good look for sig to roll ino, imo.

I put Lemonfairy in her own group. She has mostly just breezed in voted and left, hasn't expressed many opinions. Gave one long post mostly town vibereads (it's a big post, I'll spoiler it). She hasn't really engaged. Pretty much NAI, I have no read on her. She has been voting for me, but I don't know why. The PoE group I have reasons to think could go either way. Lemonfairy I really have no read at all.

Spoiler: show

Welcome to my scum pile

[VOTE: Lemon] aubergine

why aubergine?

i am back and i am town this time

*squints*
idk, not feeling this

Is it bad if that makes me want to vote you lol

the lol and the fact that it's a question makes this feel more friendly than it needs to be
probably not super AI though

you should vote mafia not town

this post actually makes me feel a bit better about the previous one but still easily made as either alignment tbh

so now i pose the question, even if i was a wolf, do you think you could have successfully caught me based off my current actions

ok, it feels like they're treating each other as town now
not w/w

What current actions in the thread are most likely to catch a wolf?

I don’t really like the dismissive “you were just wrong so have to be here” to a small day 1 suspicion comment. The thread has been mostly OT, someone has to get things rolling.

kinda like this
viberead town

I've caught others by doing this.

you're bad

probably also >rand town

Thanks. That's the fastest anyone has told me I'm bad before.

But am I bad as in a shit player. Or bad as in mafia?

One of these is true.

Neon interpreting bad as skill-related rather than alignment is towny imo

Ha ha I win, Rondo said I was bad on page one, and I’m pretty sure it was page one in LGM when Sean did, too.

I’m home pretty much all weekend, so I’ll have plenty of time to stay caught up.

On this list, Lemonfairy is new to me, I played with TSP a few time, but I don’t recall his game well, so he might as well be.

very neutral post, doesn't swing me either way

do you think using tactics and strategy is ai for me?

lucy feels very self-focused this game
idk what to make of it yet

I’ve played games with40 and 50 people, and never kept a spreadsheet

omg imagine making a spreadsheet for 40/50 people
I can barely bother to make those with 7 people

i also wasn't lying about my memory, i've never taken notes in a single class, nor do i need spreadsheets to track reads, it's all easily retained.

-_- opposite of me
everything gets deleted after a while

Alright, who's Maf? Still Marmot?
[VOTE: marmot] aubergine

I'm reading these as though they're entrance posts but this just reminded me that there was a N0 that I didn't bother to read
uhhh whatever ig, I'll just make do

also, is aubergine an inside joke or a reference to something?

Marmot

why though
but post is fine ig

@Neon Not sure yet but eye was drawn somewhere D 0 but I'm giving it a chance since it was only D 0. So no name mentioning for yet. How about you?

ehhh ok this can be vibe town too

I've already forgotten the other people I gave vibe townreads to

I don't have many thoughts. I think Lucy is town... so like can't wait for round 2 of Neon vs everyone lol

why

ok, I'm going to end this one here b/c it's getting long

My PoE group is not really in any order, I tried ordering it but can't. Tony comes in, votes, and says nothing about why. He literally said (over two posts) "Everyone vote for Kate. I saw a kate post I thought was wolfy." OK, lol. The only time he ever made anything other than a one line post was when Roxy asked him to post suspects and he said, "i got news for ya, I'm not getting eliminated and if I do it's town's fault". She never said anything about suspecting him so not sure where that came from. This may be SOP for him, I know I played with him, but don't recall if this is the norm for him, so PoE.

Marmot and Neon, I have more complex thoughts on. Marmot's doing a lot of reads and is prompting a lot of discussion, trying to coax opinions out of people which is a good look. But it bothers me alot that he continued to imply my wordiness was AI when it absolutely is not, and I even pointed it out to him from another game where I was civ that it came up in discussion. I have very little conversational filter, so i over explain to soften things. It's something I do irl, it's a compensation mechanism. I posted the info from the other game, tagged him in it, and he did not respond, but still repeated the "too wordy" thing. When he put up his rainbow, he kinda wishy washy acknowledged it, but gave no other reason for reads. Perhaps I am just annoyed at him, because other than this I mostly townread him.

Marmot said in his rainbow list: S~V~S - I've talked about SVS at length already. She has been over-explainy, to which she has also explained this is normal for her (it's been so long since we've played together, I don't remember your exact playstyle), but at times to me it doesn't feel like it accomplishes very much. I would put her lower, but since this does appear to be the norm for her, I'm putting a little less emphasis on that particular style of posting in my read on her.

And Neon is nothing like her last game. Even if i agreed with some of her conclusions there, she was posting data, making reads. She came out like an avenging angel when we elimmed a bad Lucy in LGM, which townlocked her for me. But she made sad faces when we did it here to a Lucy who actually flipped town, but didn't really try and stop it. She could just be less interested, or she could be bad. I am leaning less interested, but I am not actively town reading her as i did in LGM, which is my only experience of her. Also her trying to talk Quin out of divulging his reads during the night, then he was NKed; things that make you go

Rondo I have talked about at somewhat in the Falcon discussion, and the aftermath. Rondo came in, make a fake list and seems to be sticking to it for no reason he has expressed to the point of making fake red checks in a game with no cops . And then anyone who doubts him either should "know his game" or becomes a wolf themselves. I got the impression it was becasue I voted for Falcon, but he seems a little over traumatized by this to the point that I am not sure if it is real or not. He's making "Civvies suck" type posts, but if he's town, he isn't helping with what mostly comes across as rage posting.

[☆Princess Abigail☆]

So, stepmom is coming home today, apparently they can give you a blood test and theres a certain chemical they can detect only if you have had a recent heart attack, and she did not have one. They kept her overnight for observation, she is pretty elderly, so better safe than sorry. Possible Angina or anxiety. So I'll be doing the cooking today rather than just the guesting, lol.

The Dennis kill to me shows the woofs aren't being pressured and that we are running way off base. Not surprising really methinks they are using night kills to bait us into easy misexes

I wouldn't be surprised if Wilgy or even Marmot or Epi are woofin

Do you believe this, or is this more of a "my top suspect was nightkilled and now I'm lost" reaction?

I believe we are way off base and mafia is laughing in our face by killing Dennis. Yes.

Alternatively SVS is scum and they were trying to discredit Quinns solve so we never went there.

What solve? I thought that was basically discredited when Lucy flipped town? I tend to go more with your framing theory re Dennis' death, so I plan to read back on Kate this AM. I know her pretty well, and I don't know that I see her NKing her kid right before Christmas Especially after he suspected her, although I thought his suspish was a bit of a No U. I think his first game was so sunshine, rainbows and puppies that he was a bit at sea over taking suspish.

Now see I suspect you have to say this no?

[S~V~S]

So, stepmom is coming home today, apparently they can give you a blood test and theres a certain chemical they can detect only if you have had a recent heart attack, and she did not have one. They kept her overnight for observation, she is pretty elderly, so better safe than sorry. Possible Angina or anxiety. So I'll be doing the cooking today rather than just the guesting, lol.

The Dennis kill to me shows the woofs aren't being pressured and that we are running way off base. Not surprising really methinks they are using night kills to bait us into easy misexes

I wouldn't be surprised if Wilgy or even Marmot or Epi are woofin

Do you believe this, or is this more of a "my top suspect was nightkilled and now I'm lost" reaction?

I believe we are way off base and mafia is laughing in our face by killing Dennis. Yes.

Alternatively SVS is scum and they were trying to discredit Quinns solve so we never went there.

What solve? I thought that was basically discredited when Lucy flipped town? I tend to go more with your framing theory re Dennis' death, so I plan to read back on Kate this AM. I know her pretty well, and I don't know that I see her NKing her kid right before Christmas Especially after he suspected her, although I thought his suspish was a bit of a No U. I think his first game was so sunshine, rainbows and puppies that he was a bit at sea over taking suspish.

Now see I suspect you have to say this no?

I am not sure what you are asking me here. I have to say what?

[fingersplints]

@S~V~S

[fingersplints]

Spoiler: show

I’m very surprised by that kill. I was still suspicious of Dennis, but it seems I was wrong. Dennis, I hope you know that I think you played well. It’s just the nature of the game. People find little suspicions and it sticks sometimes. It can be very hard to be on the receiving end of it, but you did well for your first time getting lots of suspicion. We all get frustrated during mafia sometimes. It’s ok. I hope you still stick around and play more.

The Dennis kill to me shows the woofs aren't being pressured and that we are running way off base. Not surprising really methinks they are using night kills to bait us into easy misexes

Who do you think they are trying to bait us into? Kate?

I could see that especially as Marmot came in with a vote for her and rondo claimed a fake red check on her.
Of those two, I was town reading Marmot. This fake check is just fuelling my suspicion of rondo.

I think they baited us into Lucy and are now baiting us into Kate

You're telling us what "they" are doing without telling us who "they" are.

Who dey?

(With apologies to JJJ and bwt)

I think I made it pretty apparent what I'm thinking actually

No you didn't. You made three on-topic posts between this one and now. Here they are:

I now have physical proof I suck at Mafia.

I recorded all my games of mafia and my win rate is atrocious lol

The Dennis kill to me shows the woofs aren't being pressured and that we are running way off base. Not surprising really methinks they are using night kills to bait us into easy misexes

I wouldn't be surprised if Wilgy or even Marmot or Epi are woofin

Do you believe this, or is this more of a "my top suspect was nightkilled and now I'm lost" reaction?

I believe we are way off base and mafia is laughing in our face by killing Dennis. Yes.

The Dennis kill to me shows the woofs aren't being pressured and that we are running way off base. Not surprising really methinks they are using night kills to bait us into easy misexes

I wouldn't be surprised if Wilgy or even Marmot or Epi are woofin

Do you believe this, or is this more of a "my top suspect was nightkilled and now I'm lost" reaction?

I believe we are way off base and mafia is laughing in our face by killing Dennis. Yes.

Alternatively SVS is scum and they were trying to discredit Quinns solve so we never went there.

I don't see who "they" are.

The only thing you offer is S~V~S being bad, but that's "alternatively." So I don't understand why you raise an alternative theory without making your first one clear.

[VOTE: Neon] aubergine

Well you certainly didn't include all my posts that are indicative of my feelings about this game but *shrugs*

I like Epi’s accusations here and do not like Neon’s responses.
I first asked about the Kate thing, because the “they” caught my eye as well. I even offered two possible people who “they” could be, but Neon chose not to comment on that. This reads to me like a mafia move for sure. Put a small idea out there without really naming names so it doesn’t get back to you as being the originator of the accusation.

This also would mean that Neon, if bad, was trying to divert attention from a Kate elimination. While I completely agree with SVS that I don’t see Kate first choice to NK her own son, unless only to put him out of his misery quicker as maybe he really wasn’t having fun. But Kate isn’t the only mafia. Maybe she wasn’t around, as she is sick. Maybe she got outnumbered. Idk

[fingersplints]

Anyone who will answer: GTH who is the team?

[Roxy]

Anyone who will answer: GTH who is the team?

Rondo, lemonfairy, Neon.

I keep thinking Wigly but maybe you are right, idk I have never played by putting people with their roles I just hint for baddies.

What about you?


Also today and tomorrow will be hard for me to game. I have a 2 year old granddaughter that is the most important thing rn. I will try to be in and out.

[Roxy]

Got to be honest I felt civ vibes from Neon all game. Epi's case has made me question myself as also your assertion about wigly has.

[fingersplints]

Anyone who will answer: GTH who is the team?

Rondo, lemonfairy, Neon.

I keep thinking Wigly but maybe you are right, idk I have never played by putting people with their roles I just hint for baddies.

What about you?


Also today and tomorrow will be hard for me to game. I have a 2 year old granddaughter that is the most important thing rn. I will try to be in and out.

I have currently talked myself into Rondo, neon, Kate
With Neon today trying to steer the topic away from Kate as a set up, and rondo who I think was pretty likely to go over, it would be a good look for her when he came back bad as the fake check

[Lemonfairy]

aaaaaaaa
ok so I'm still alive and I should actually play the game because I have been slanking pretty hard and I don't want to exist in endgame at all
I'm going to just ISO skim and throw a read out instead of backreading the entire thread for the sake of my own sanity

copying over list of alive people:
DrWilgy - This is probably a wolf. Most comments/takes are mild. Initial questions are self-focused. Oh no wait, there's a second page... I like the second page a bit better I think
Epignosis - This can be scum too ig. (Watch me end up scumreading everyone.) Can relate to the trying to speedread and then uhh... not end up processing anything. I thought the calling out sig as "town sig" was towny though so can be higher than DW
fingersplints - Prob town. Feel ok on this.
Kate - Can be wolf. This slot is probably a bit lower than Epignosis despite having more takes - probably because of tone or something... unsure.
Marmot - Prob town. Passes vibe check.
Neon - Neon is too happy this game to be scum. This is a serious read.
RondoDimBuckle - This slot is probably fine. Like a low town.
Roxy - Oh no I think Roxy's posts are the type that I am most easily pocketed by. I'm still going to put a town sticker here though.
sig (sub for sabie12) - Sabie is overall fine I think. I lost myself trying to digest one of their paragraphs though. One of sig's posts is vibing a lot with what my reads are starting to look like too and I think that's a good sign. Prob town.
S~V~S - I voted SVS on D2 and I have a vague memory of why (probably something tonal) but I'm going to look again b/c I don't really trust the judgement of my past self. Uhhh might put SVS as could be scum. Maybe around the same level as Epignosis. Actually no, maybe higher idk.
TonyStarkPrime - Low town ig.

NB: The above reads are primarily vibereads. They are more there to give me a better feel of the game as a whole so if you ask me for more in depth reasoning, I probably wouldn't be able to give you any. That being said, I still stand behind them as actual and serious reads and do not think vibereads are any less significant than non-vibereads.

[Lemonfairy]

so if I order them, I'll get my readlist

town
fingersplints
Marmot
Neon
Roxy

townlean
sig
Rondo
Tony

POE/scum
SVS
Epignosis
Kate
DrWilgy