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[Tangrowth]

And Splints, FWIW, I was reading FZ. as very likely civvie.

Turns out I was wrong.

[Roxy]

What do you even want me to refute MP? Why exactly am I bad?? Because I did not jump on board your "case" on FZ and Bass? Sorry I think you are over reaching and will be sorry when you brilliantly lynch a civ me and 2 that I think are civ Bass and FZ.

I have to appeal to emotion bc you give me nothing to defend except the fact that I didn't agree at all with your case.
Maybe ambray "goofs" but I don't.

[Bass_the_Clever]

Bass, I don't think I said you appealed to emotion. Rox and FZ. have though.

You just have failed to clarify your remarks. Sorry bud.

Now, really. I've already laid out the case. I think it's the most excellent case I've ever crafted and I would bet my mafia reputation on FZ. and Bass being bad. If you wonder why, it's not a meaningless back and forth. Read my posts.

I do not want to keep debating. I have dinner to eat and a paper to write. I've neglected it. If someone actually comes up with a refutation of my case, I would LOVE to hear it. I want to catch baddies after all. It would be terrible if I was wrong.

It's too bad for the baddies that I'm 99% sure I'm not wrong.

Linki w/ Splints: Fair enough. Please read it. I really, really, really think it's self-evident for a reason and there's a reason I'm so worked up about it. I also realize I'm not doing any good jumping up and down right now, so I'm seriously not responding anymore unless someone wants to actually discuss some merits of the case.

I'm going to feel really bad for you when I come back civvie because I won't let you forget this lol.

[Abigail Sophia]

No Snow you moved your vote/intention to vote around then lied about moving it around.

I didn't Roxy. That is a lie.

Can you prove it?

[Ambray]

Rox, just answer me this:

Do you think Ambray is not intelligent then because she outed her entire team on mistake?

All humans make mistakes.

I do not think any of the three of you are unintelligent. I think you DUN GOOFED.

Dude.

[Snow Dog]

No Snow you moved your vote/intention to vote around then lied about moving it around.

I didn't Roxy. That is a lie.

Can you prove it?

Every vote I moved I explained. How many times do you think i moved a vote?

[Roxy]

Thanks splints and I agree we need to stay focused instead of being led off track at the last hour without giving everyone the chance to weigh in without the threat of lynch from MP.

VOTE BR

[Bass_the_Clever]

I voted Black Rock because her vote for Dom seems off to me.

[Snow Dog]

I think I moved my vote three times INCLUDING this poll.

[Snow Dog]

I think I moved my vote three times INCLUDING this poll.

Just checked. It's twice. Two times.

[Roxy]

I think I moved my vote three times INCLUDING this poll.

But your intention is all over as well.
I mean a minute ago you were convinced enough on your own case to vote MP and now you are following his vote I do not get this behavior at all.

[Roxy]

Just realized I did notvote in the poll.

[birdwithteeth11]

Yeah, I'm leaving my vote on FZ now. I just don't like her lack of logic from before.

I think depending on how this lynch goes down, either Bass or Snow Dog (possibly both) would be good places to look in the future. Snow, is there a reason you seem to be having such a hard time making decisions in this game?

[Tangrowth]

Snow Dog isn't bad.

[Snow Dog]

I think I moved my vote three times INCLUDING this poll.

But your intention is all over as well.
I mean a minute ago you were convinced enough on your own case to vote MP and now you are following his vote I do not get this behavior at all.

Have you read the thread? I was never "convinced" on my case. i never made a case. i made a "What if" I was thinking aloud. No case. i voted on his reaction but it was all cleared up.

[Made]

Also, Made, if so: what elements of Llama's behavior strike similar chords for you? How would you succinctly describe his baddie playstyle?

Left this open, but never replied, so linki here we go.
The play that reminds me of his mafia is his jokes (which i say are normal) but normally they're followed by accusation, this game, not as much. Given as of recent (last post i saw of him) he was accusing, but only after i pointed out his lack.

Llama in Monty seemed more aggressive, Llama in LoZ seemed more passive.

linki- FZ v Bass is interesting.
Just a thought, imo FZ seems far more invested in the game than Bass, could we kill him instead? More seems to ride on bass anyways. (his "slip" vs her lack of logic)

Does MP feel a little colder/less rash than usual to anyone else? Might just be wanting to survive past day 2, but iunno.

rereading BR

is there anything innately wrong with vote switching/ is it even relevant?

And it's either linki or time out... i'll post this eventually tho!

[Snow Dog]

Yeah, I'm leaving my vote on FZ now. I just don't like her lack of logic from before.

I think depending on how this lynch goes down, either Bass or Snow Dog (possibly both) would be good places to look in the future. Snow, is there a reason you seem to be having such a hard time making decisions in this game?

No

[Snow Dog]

Snow Dog isn't bad.

What? Why the change?

[Tangrowth]

Ambray, sorry, I am not implying you are unintelligent (I would say the opposite). I won't mention that incident any further.

Rox, look to the bottom of this post to see a question I've asked you and others multiple times. You haven't addressed it.

Made, can we lynch FZ. today and Bass tomorrow please?

I do not want BR to get lynched at this point.

I'm not intending to come across colder, but NO ONE has told me why:

I think I going to "relax"(:p wish you were here splints) for a few and let these latest posts sink in.


Linky wall 'o text tldr going to "relax"

you have no idea how much I wish I was there too and how disappointed I am I didn't make it there this trip. Too much to do and too little time. I shouldn't have worked.

There is always next time! Besides work got in the way for both of us if I rememeber correctly


So glad you think me such a poor player that I would openly defend a teammate.

Christ MP you are reading way too much into stuff and over looking the obv staring at you laughing.

How is this "reading way too much into stuff"?

I really don't understand why someone would conclude I was the one targeted.

Bass and FZ.'s most recent posts really don't make me reconsider my perception of my observation.

Bass, the thing is: It was not made public whether DF or I survived the NK. So why would you say you think I'm civvie SOLELY based on the NK survival and you have no opinion of DF, even though it was not made public which one of us was the target?

FZ., I have NEVER seen a game on this site where there was a possibility of two different targets for the NK survival. It's certainly an interesting way to write it. But I can't recall anyone doing this, let alone Epig or Elo. And don't worry, you didn't offend me, but now that you're implying I'm either paranoid or baddie, instead of logically refuting my observation, makes me wonder. Especially so since you haven't said a word about my Bass observations.

You are reading way to much into my post .I wouldn't lynch you or DF because of last nights post.

Oh, but I'm not reading way too much into it.

Well so far I don't want to see MP get lynched and i'm not to sure about llama either. I feel like llama could just be really busy and thats why he hasn't been active like his normal self so it really hard for me to say at this point . If I had to vote right now it would probably for Black Rock . Her vote for Dom seemed kinda strange to me and out of no where .

Why don't you want to see me lynched? What about my play makes you think it's a civvie? I'm just curious. I find the fact that now at least three people (DF, you, and FZ.) have said I seem civvie interesting.

With Llama, that could be the case, but could it not also be the case for BR?

Why do you think the scenario you described is the case for Llama but not BR?

Well there has to be a reason you survived the attempted night kill. The one reason that could have happen is a certain civvie role. I don't know for sure if you are that role or not but I would hate to lynch someone who could be that role.

Yes the scenario coulod be the case for both of them but so far this game BR has given me more reason to look her way then Llama has.

I asked you "why don't you want to see me lynched?"

Your answer was not:
- I feel your attempts to baddie hunt have been genuine.
- I assess that your behavior seems like your normal civvie self.

Or anything like that. In fact, your ONLY reason is clearly bolded above. "Well there has to be a reason you survived the attempted night kill".

How is there anything more to read there than the stated? You clearly stated there has to be a reason I survived the NK.

Night 1: Matte Kudasai

“The competition is heating up down there Bob. The racers are doing whatever they need to do to get ahead.”

“Right you are, Darrell.

“Woah, would you look at that?!”

“What is it Darrell?”

“Right over there in Shu Todoroki’s pit. Looks like Acer has made his way over there and is puttin’ up a fuss about something. Oh man! Acer just shot at someone in the crew!”

“Wait, Darrell here comes security. Looks like Acer is backing off.”

“Woo wee, that was close. Let’s keep this race friendly folks. Let’s keep this race real friendly.”

No one has been killed.
It is now Day 2. You have 48 hours to lynch someone.

Where in that post does it say I survived the NK?

Bass said the reason I am civvie is because "I survived the NK".

I asked him what he thought of DF. He said he had no opinion.

We don't know who survived the NK. It was either me or DF.

Why would Bass say I'm a civvie because I survived the NK and not DFaraday? How is that reading too much? That's ridiculous. I'm reading EXACTLY WHAT BASS SAID. (not mad or disrespectful, caps lock added for emphasis)

No one has answered this question.

I will leave the thread now, but I refuse to have this vote go bad because people do not understand my case. If FZ. does not get lynched today, the civvies deserve to lose, IMO.

[Roxy]

MP also idc if you don't believe I did not get a benefit or prize that I was aware of - why would I even say it? I am a civ I like to share everything bc I've nothing to hide.

[Tangrowth]

Snow Dog isn't bad.

What? Why the change?

Well, it's evident to me Bass and FZ. are bad, and Roxy is very likely a third.

Considering they are the baddie team, I do not see you being on that team due to your actions.

I also wanted to say it's interesting to note both FZ. and Bass voted for Roxy in the D0 benefit poll and that Roxy said she has received no benefit. I realize I also voted Roxy, but I think that's something to note.

[Tangrowth]

MP also idc if you don't believe I did not get a benefit or prize that I was aware of - why would I even say it? I am a civ I like to share everything bc I've nothing to hide.

I don't believe you, and there's good reason for that.

[birdwithteeth11]

Snow Dog isn't bad.

Regardless of the fact that he's changed his mind so much? Isn't that somewhat illogical too?

[Tangrowth]

Snow Dog isn't bad.

Regardless of the fact that he's changed his mind so much? Isn't that somewhat illogical too?

1) But he hasn't. He "joke voted" (he didn't even vote, so he says, and I don't recall seeing the votes) me or Llama on D1. That means he voted Blooper, then moved it to MR after her defense.

2) He moved his vote from me to FZ. today after I brought forth my case.

And do you not recall how Snow Dog typically plays this game?

NOW I'M LEAVING.

I seriously feel like I'm in a circus thread, where some people aren't playing the same game that I am.

[Ambray]

MP - I know, I was just poking fun. I was an idiot.
I still don't have any idea how I confused the PM page for the posting page.

[Snow Dog]

Snow Dog isn't bad.

Regardless of the fact that he's changed his mind so much? Isn't that somewhat illogical too?

I'vh changed my mind so much? twice!!! This is starting to annoy me now the blatant disregard of facts.

[Snow Dog]

^Forget that, Mp answred better

[thellama73]

What I come back and everyone is voting for FZ? Big mistake guys. Big mistake. I would change my vote if I were you. Am brau is where the action is at.

[Snow Dog]

MP - I know, I was just poking fun. I was an idiot.
I still don't have any idea how I confused the PM page for the posting page.

[Tangrowth]

What I come back and everyone is voting for FZ? Big mistake guys. Big mistake. I would change my vote if I were you. Am brau is where the action is at.

Bah, I really can't stay away.

For the love of god, Llama, please catch up and see why.

[Snow Dog]

What I come back and everyone is voting for FZ? Big mistake guys. Big mistake. I would change my vote if I were you. Am brau is where the action is at.

Yeah. We need more than that. Is it even you posting?

[Roxy]

MP
Why quote that gigantic wall of text for a small blurb at the end unless you aretrying to control the lynch making everyone look at ot again.

I believe its bc you were getting a bit of heat and he was posting back and forth with you he said he had no read on df - he does imply about you both that he does not want to lynch either of you bc of the poss of either of you being a certain civ role. I don't think it was a slip I think he was genuine in his feeling that he did not want see you lynched. Bass is a much more careful baddie but I shouldn't have to tell you that.

[Tangrowth]

What I come back and everyone is voting for FZ? Big mistake guys. Big mistake. I would change my vote if I were you. Am brau is where the action is at.

Yeah. We need more than that. Is it even you posting?

He obviously is half-joking and hasn't caught up.

[Tangrowth]

MP
Why quote that gigantic wall of text for a small blurb at the end unless you aretrying to control the lynch making everyone look at ot again.

I believe its bc you were getting a bit of heat and he was posting back and forth with you he said he had no read on df - he does imply about you both that he does not want to lynch either of you bc of the poss of either of you being a certain civ role. I don't think it was a slip I think he was genuine in his feeling that he did not want see you lynched. Bass is a much more careful baddie but I shouldn't have to tell you that.

Wait, what?

You do not understand how the events occurred.

Bass said he believes I am civvie BECAUSE I SURVIVED THE NK.

I then asked him what he thinks of DF. He said he had no opinion.

I ask why.

You are not answering that question.

[thellama73]

What I come back and everyone is voting for FZ? Big mistake guys. Big mistake. I would change my vote if I were you. Am brau is where the action is at.

Bah, I really can't stay away.

For the love of god, Llama, please catch up and see why.

Llama play how llama want to play. Changingy vote to black rock because the arguments against FZ are utterly unconvincing.

[Tangrowth]

I can't remember the last time I was this frustrated at a game. I will leave for real. Sorry players. I am not intending any disrespect. Seriously. I am not insulting anyone.

Civvies deserve to lose if FZ. does not get lynched this lynch, it's that simple.

No wonder civvies practically never win games on this site. Holy bats.

Llama NOOOOOOOOOOO.

Wow. I'm gone.

[Tangrowth]

I just can't believe this. Wow.

[Snow Dog]

MP
Why quote that gigantic wall of text for a small blurb at the end unless you aretrying to control the lynch making everyone look at ot again.

I believe its bc you were getting a bit of heat and he was posting back and forth with you he said he had no read on df - he does imply about you both that he does not want to lynch either of you bc of the poss of either of you being a certain civ role. I don't think it was a slip I think he was genuine in his feeling that he did not want see you lynched. Bass is a much more careful baddie but I shouldn't have to tell you that.

So are you saying i was onto MP and this is his reaction?

[Boogs]

Just got home and had to vote. I saw FZ and BR had the most votes. Decided to go with FZ.

[thellama73]

If FZ flips civ I am coming hard after all you FZ voters when I get back to DC, especially Ambray.

[Snow Dog]

This must be a brilliant read for the hosts.

[Roxy]

MP also idc if you don't believe I did not get a benefit or prize that I was aware of - why would I even say it? I am a civ I like to share everything bc I've nothing to hide.

I don't believe you, and there's good reason for that.

By all means enlighten me on a prize or benefit I did not get - stop being so dang gone vague!

Please answer my previous question MP - you are ignoring it or overlooking it. why am I suspicious or connected to bass or fz? is it solely bc I did not agree with your case?

[Tangrowth]

If FZ flips civ I am coming hard after all you FZ voters when I get back to DC, especially Ambray.

If FZ (or even Bass for that matter) flips civ, I will forever proclaim that I am an idiot.

This must be a brilliant read for the hosts.

No kidding.

[Snow Dog]

If FZ flips civ I am coming hard after all you FZ voters when I get back to DC, especially Ambray.

Don't you dare come hard at me!

[Roxy]

MP
Why quote that gigantic wall of text for a small blurb at the end unless you aretrying to control the lynch making everyone look at ot again.

I believe its bc you were getting a bit of heat and he was posting back and forth with you he said he had no read on df - he does imply about you both that he does not want to lynch either of you bc of the poss of either of you being a certain civ role. I don't think it was a slip I think he was genuine in his feeling that he did not want see you lynched. Bass is a much more careful baddie but I shouldn't have to tell you that.

So are you saying i was onto MP and this is his reaction?

Far from it. this post is not directed at you as its clearly addressed to MP and it is an answer to a question at the end of his wall of text.

[Tangrowth]

MP also idc if you don't believe I did not get a benefit or prize that I was aware of - why would I even say it? I am a civ I like to share everything bc I've nothing to hide.

I don't believe you, and there's good reason for that.

By all means enlighten me on a prize or benefit I did not get - stop being so dang gone vague!

Please answer my previous question MP - you are ignoring it or overlooking it. why am I suspicious or connected to bass or fz? is it solely bc I did not agree with your case?

Rox, sorry, I didn't mean to ignore anything. I'm obviously worked up at the moment. Lol.

I'll consider that you're not 100% tied to the case. But my feelings are:

1) Bass and FZ. both have trusted you and both voted you D0. FZ. in particular. Considering I think both of them are bad, something to consider.
2) You said you did not benefit and nothing happened from winning the D0 poll. While I don't know this to be false, I'm very skeptical that is the case.
3) It is not that you disagree with my case. That's fine. Even if I really believe it's true. It's because you didn't give me a straight answer on Bass until literally just recently and you kept ignoring it.

Hope that helps.

[fingersplints]

MP, FZ has the most voted anyways? why are you so upset?
I don't understand all this "civvies deserve to lose" stuff. I think I am missing something because this doesn't seem to be case shut to me as you are making it out to be. I don't know if I believe all three would be so blatantly obvious. I could see the bass/FZ thing but when Roxy disagreed with it and you lumped her on to the group I feel like your case lost some credibility.

[Snow Dog]

If FZ flips civ I am coming hard after all you FZ voters when I get back to DC, especially Ambray.

If FZ (or even Bass for that matter) flips civ, I will forever proclaim that I am an idiot.



.

I don't want you.....us....to be wrong, but I'd look forward to that.

[Snow Dog]

MP
Why quote that gigantic wall of text for a small blurb at the end unless you aretrying to control the lynch making everyone look at ot again.

I believe its bc you were getting a bit of heat and he was posting back and forth with you he said he had no read on df - he does imply about you both that he does not want to lynch either of you bc of the poss of either of you being a certain civ role. I don't think it was a slip I think he was genuine in his feeling that he did not want see you lynched. Bass is a much more careful baddie but I shouldn't have to tell you that.

So are you saying i was onto MP and this is his reaction?

Far from it. this post is not directed at you as its clearly addressed to MP and it is an answer to a question at the end of his wall of text.

But you mentioned a bit of heat. What heat?

[Made]

If FZ flips civ I am coming hard after all you FZ voters when I get back to DC, especially Ambray.

Ok, second person to mention Ambray as if she's an oracle or something. She's not even on my radar tbh, should she be?

Voting FZ