Cartomancy [Game Over]

[tutuu]

IM BACK AND IM READY TO PLAY.

[staypositivefriend]

not clear to me why me self-voting for fun is something that u need to figure out/analyze

[MacDougall]

mac can u read through creature's posts today and give me ur thoughts? i'll do the same for sig

I've read all of his posts. They aren't great but they are better than sigs, and that Jack post pleading with us to vote out creature and tutuu over sig made my fucking skin crawl. Jack suddenly caring again and trying to be pushy is just making me think he's flipped back to hard wolfsiding probably to end the game.

[tutuu]

@Jackofhearts2005 EAT FUCKING SHIT AND DIE.

[DrWilgy]

mac can u read through creature's posts today and give me ur thoughts? i'll do the same for sig

I've read all of his posts. They aren't great but they are better than sigs, and that Jack post pleading with us to vote out creature and tutuu over sig made my fucking skin crawl. Jack suddenly caring again and trying to be pushy is just making me think he's flipped back to hard wolfsiding probably to end the game.

I agree with this. I had the same vibe.

[Bereft]

In hindsight Jack's argument that Creature is not the zealot due to not having been bussed is so awful. Like I did say that Creature's been in contention for forever.
Sig has been in contention approximately never, and it reached its zenith when I convinced Seanzie to vote sig with me and probably somebody else in Mac/SPF.

[robyn]

let's just say i have a bad feeling

[DrWilgy]

Yo, actually the team is
Sig
JoH
Seanzie
SPF
Porscha/Sabi

[MacDougall]

It doesn't matter.

None of it matters. Suppose they're both wolf. Now its just, which of them do the wolves not want us to hang.

Seanzie has claimed Creature is not zealot out of thin air.

Jack and SPF both made quite asinine arguments for sparing sig even though they couldn't townread him. Jack's particularly was trash. Literally read his post. If sig flips mafia please kill him.

[robyn]

also statistically creature isn't zealot

[Bereft]

let's just say i have a bad feeling

You get to say you have a bad feeling when you actually engage with the game.

[MacDougall]

In hindsight Jack's argument that Creature is not the zealot due to not having been bussed is so awful. Like I did say that Creature's been in contention for forever.
Sig has been in contention approximately never, and it reached its zenith when I convinced Seanzie to vote sig with me and probably somebody else in Mac/SPF.

wtf are you talking about

[tutuu]

@MacDougall you are the only one i can trust. listen.

i am going to try to prove to u that im town. and try to convince u of my creature townread.

jack is either a village with the most garbage, trash, abominable, horrendous reads imaginable. or he's mafia. i'd like to think he's mafia. i think he tried to end the game.

spf is probably mafia. because she's on creature. ill get more to that later.

dennis has been openwolfing the entire day. he is making non-posts. nothingburgers. stop giving him a free pass coz he's young and has a dog avatar. ill get more to this later.

i hate everyone on my wagon and i want them all dead. give me a second

mafia is going to all pile up on creature at Eod and try to end the game. thats their game winning move

[staypositivefriend]

mac can u read through creature's posts today and give me ur thoughts? i'll do the same for sig

I've read all of his posts. They aren't great but they are better than sigs, and that Jack post pleading with us to vote out creature and tutuu over sig made my fucking skin crawl. Jack suddenly caring again and trying to be pushy is just making me think he's flipped back to hard wolfsiding probably to end the game.

do you think a world where creature/jack are W/W is possible? because i actually have been treating them as a mild difference check based on the way that jack has been treating creature today, and the fact that i think creature is being wolfy makes me worry less about jack by default,, but it's possible i'm outruling a W/W world too easily ig

i do think there exists an exact world where jack/sig are mafia and jack is trying to distract from the sig wagon by getting creature eliminated today, but that requires a world where creature is town, which is a world that im having trouble getting to for various reasons

we are in agreement that sig's posts today are bad though. my townread on sig coming into today was partially predicated on the idea that he would continue to scumhunt and continue to gamesolve after having his view of the game ~vindicated~ yesterday, but he ..hasn't

[Bereft]

also statistically creature isn't zealot

What probability do you have assigned to it. Do it properly, with Bayes Rule and everything.

[Seanzie]

In hindsight Jack's argument that Creature is not the zealot due to not having been bussed is so awful. Like I did say that Creature's been in contention for forever.
Sig has been in contention approximately never, and it reached its zenith when I convinced Seanzie to vote sig with me and probably somebody else in Mac/SPF.

Regardless of Jack's argument, I just don't see any reasonable worlds where Creature is the zealot.

[MacDougall]

Yo, actually the team is
Sig
JoH
Seanzie
SPF
Porscha/Sabi

Brother how can you be reading the current content and put sabi in this solve? Did you literally not read her reaction to the post you and I both just buried?

[tutuu]

@Creature I NEED TO YOU GET HERE. COME. HERE.

[DrWilgy]

I am in agreement.

I think it's also interesting to note that Porscha keeps quoting me and going out of the way to interact with me upon my start of Sig suspicion. This did not exist earlier.

Legacy: Kill Sig. If correct PoE is Seanzie/JoH/SPF/Porscha

If not, course correct onto Creature and Tutuu.

[MacDougall]

@Sabiplz @Porscha move to sig plz.

[robyn]

also statistically creature isn't zealot

What probability do you have assigned to it. Do it properly, with Bayes Rule and everything.

1/20 at least

[MacDougall]

I am in agreement.

I think it's also interesting to note that Porscha keeps quoting me and going out of the way to interact with me upon my start of Sig suspicion. This did not exist earlier.

Legacy: Kill Sig. If correct PoE is Seanzie/JoH/SPF/Porscha

If not, course correct onto Creature and Tutuu.

It took a while but we finally seem to agree on some shit.

[Bereft]

In hindsight Jack's argument that Creature is not the zealot due to not having been bussed is so awful. Like I did say that Creature's been in contention for forever.
Sig has been in contention approximately never, and it reached its zenith when I convinced Seanzie to vote sig with me and probably somebody else in Mac/SPF.

Regardless of Jack's argument, I just don't see any reasonable worlds where Creature is the zealot.

Based on what?

[DrWilgy]

Yo, actually the team is
Sig
JoH
Seanzie
SPF
Porscha/Sabi

Brother how can you be reading the current content and put sabi in this solve? Did you literally not read her reaction to the post you and I both just buried?

Fear. Sabi is the (if I'm wrong.)

[Bereft]

also statistically creature isn't zealot

What probability do you have assigned to it. Do it properly, with Bayes Rule and everything.

1/20 at least

So pretty good odds.

[MacDougall]

@MacDougall you are the only one i can trust. listen.

i am going to try to prove to u that im town. and try to convince u of my creature townread.

jack is either a village with the most garbage, trash, abominable, horrendous reads imaginable. or he's mafia. i'd like to think he's mafia. i think he tried to end the game.

spf is probably mafia. because she's on creature. ill get more to that later.

dennis has been openwolfing the entire day. he is making non-posts. nothingburgers. stop giving him a free pass coz he's young and has a dog avatar. ill get more to this later.

i hate everyone on my wagon and i want them all dead. give me a second

mafia is going to all pile up on creature at Eod and try to end the game. thats their game winning move

why are you pleading with me like this when I'm already literally here pushing sig?

[Seanzie]

In hindsight Jack's argument that Creature is not the zealot due to not having been bussed is so awful. Like I did say that Creature's been in contention for forever.
Sig has been in contention approximately never, and it reached its zenith when I convinced Seanzie to vote sig with me and probably somebody else in Mac/SPF.

Regardless of Jack's argument, I just don't see any reasonable worlds where Creature is the zealot.

Based on what?

You'll just have to take my word for it.

[staypositivefriend]

i cant really defend sig, i just find creature wolfier rn

this is because i am mafia with sig and trying to save him

[tutuu]

i cant really defend sig, i just find creature wolfier rn

this is because i am mafia with sig and trying to save him

THAT IS LITERALLY THE TRUTH

[MacDougall]

Yo, actually the team is
Sig
JoH
Seanzie
SPF
Porscha/Sabi

Brother how can you be reading the current content and put sabi in this solve? Did you literally not read her reaction to the post you and I both just buried?

Fear. Sabi is the (if I'm wrong.)

No you just tried to put sabi in this world and now you're lying god damn it Wilgy why can't you just fucking be town

[robyn]

mac/seanzie probably town hmm

[tutuu]

@MacDougall you are the only one i can trust. listen.

i am going to try to prove to u that im town. and try to convince u of my creature townread.

jack is either a village with the most garbage, trash, abominable, horrendous reads imaginable. or he's mafia. i'd like to think he's mafia. i think he tried to end the game.

spf is probably mafia. because she's on creature. ill get more to that later.

dennis has been openwolfing the entire day. he is making non-posts. nothingburgers. stop giving him a free pass coz he's young and has a dog avatar. ill get more to this later.

i hate everyone on my wagon and i want them all dead. give me a second

mafia is going to all pile up on creature at Eod and try to end the game. thats their game winning move

why are you pleading with me like this when I'm already literally here pushing sig?

im just trying to work with u man. im making a big post hold up. and i also townread creature i want to show to u

[staypositivefriend]

mac/seanzie probably town hmm

yeah

[MacDougall]

i cant really defend sig, i just find creature wolfier rn

this is because i am mafia with sig and trying to save him

THAT IS LITERALLY THE TRUTH

SPF does have the plausible deniability of having sussed creature since day 1 (and creature also actually being quite fucking scummy).

[staypositivefriend]

i cant really defend sig, i just find creature wolfier rn

this is because i am mafia with sig and trying to save him

THAT IS LITERALLY THE TRUTH

i'm just poking fun at the theory that me having a slight preference for killing my gamelong scumread over someone that i kind of scumread is indicative of me trying very hard to protect sig from dying

admittedly i did townread sig coming into today but i took it back relatively quickly

[tutuu]

i cant really defend sig, i just find creature wolfier rn

this is because i am mafia with sig and trying to save him

THAT IS LITERALLY THE TRUTH

SPF does have the plausible deniability of having sussed creature since day 1 (and creature also actually being quite fucking scummy).

its not so much about spf its about jack making all of those shit walls with the same goal - pile on creature even tho sig is supposedly scum. like his agenda and spf's agenda lines up

[staypositivefriend]

would i prefer to kill the person that i have scumread for the entirety of this game and who i am having trouble moving past being mafia and who i have trouble conceiving of a world where he is NOT mafia, or would i rather kill this other kind of scummy person that i think is making bad posts? it's a tough one tbh

i think that if ppl want me to vote sig over creature then i need someone to tell me why creature is town

[MacDougall]

Falcon
Dennis
Porscha
SPF
Seanzie

Final guess lol.

[staypositivefriend]

it's true that me and jack are playing with a similar agenda today tbh so ill grant u that

[staypositivefriend]

Falcon
Dennis
Porscha
SPF
Seanzie

Final guess lol.

ouch

[DrWilgy]

Yo, actually the team is
Sig
JoH
Seanzie
SPF
Porscha/Sabi

Brother how can you be reading the current content and put sabi in this solve? Did you literally not read her reaction to the post you and I both just buried?

Fear. Sabi is the (if I'm wrong.)

No you just tried to put sabi in this world and now you're lying god damn it Wilgy why can't you just fucking be town

My guy, I have lied once this game, and that was my early TR list fishing for reactionz.

I am not good at reading W Porscha, mainly due to experience.

I am not good at reading W SPF, because I'm dum.

Sabi could be the empty in these slots that I'm missing.

[robyn]

Falcon
Dennis
Porscha
SPF
Seanzie

Final guess lol.

mac do u think the vote will go through today?

[Seanzie]

Falcon
Dennis
Porscha
SPF
Seanzie

Final guess lol.

It's not Falcon or me. The others, meh.

[MacDougall]

Falcon
Dennis
Porscha
SPF
Seanzie

Final guess lol.

mac do u think the vote will go through today?

I dunno

[robyn]

uh oh

[robyn]

something interfered with my ability last night

[MacDougall]

I just hope creature and sig are both mafia and Jack and SPF and Tutuu are all town that just believe in their reads a lot tbh.

[staypositivefriend]

i have less faith in my reads than i am currently projecting if we're being honest

[Sabiplz]

@Sabiplz @Porscha move to sig plz.

Ok

Voting sig

Aubergine

[Bereft]

I'm just glad the activity spike means that I'm more confident that 1 of Sig/Creature is the correct vote.