Holes Mafia {TOWN WINS}

[☆Princess Abigail☆]

[☆Princess Abigail☆]

I'm always alone in thread when I'm on

[☆Princess Abigail☆]

What even is real timing

[pyxxy]

I'm always alone in thread when I'm on

hey how's it going

[pyxxy]

well maybe neon got some sleep haha

[☆Princess Abigail☆]

well maybe neon got some sleep haha

Naw I'm at work what's up got any thoughts?

[pyxxy]

well maybe neon got some sleep haha

Naw I'm at work what's up got any thoughts?

I'm trying to figure out who I would vote for GTH

I watched people kill town!Falcon in the NPC mess and I wasn't brave enough to stand up for him there but, not the same vibes from this Falcon...so I guess I wouldn't defend him again

can't shake the wilgy paranoia

wondering when lucy will return

actually I'm gonna go to sleep now sorry >.<

[MacDougall]

I'm always alone in thread when I'm on

sup

[☆Princess Abigail☆]

I'm always alone in thread when I'm on

sup

Sup Macerdoodles what are you seeing early?

[MacDougall]

I'm always alone in thread when I'm on

sup

Sup Macerdoodles what are you seeing early?

a game that needs a maccing

tomorrow

[☆Princess Abigail☆]

It certainly needs a something. A maccing a sabiing a neoning a wilgying.

I dunno but defs something.

[S~V~S]

I overslept, gotta walk the dog and do some stupid shit around the house, back shortly, c ya soon .

[falcon45ca]

I'm back. Have I missed anything?

[☆Princess Abigail☆]

I'm back. Have I missed anything?

I got a n0 red check on you

[Kate]

The wolves are MacDougall, pyxxy, and falcon45ca.

For realz or for lolz?

[S~V~S]

First, everyone highlighted bricky color are people who were alive for the very intense endgame of another game, and I can cut slack for being a little burnt out. No one is off the table today, but I have no need to vote early, as of right now I have no read on several of the bricky people. Hope to see more of them, although i would also get it if some of them needed air space from Mafia for a day.

1. pyxxy
2. falcon45ca
3. lucy
4. Neon
5. Seanzie
6. Macdougall
7. DrWilgy
8. Marmot
9. Kate
10. S~V~S
11. Dennis
12. Sabiplz
13. fingersplints

The seeming norm now of not using OT green can be confusing to me, I can't always tells when someone means something or it's a joke in some cases. I've seen a few reads lists that I thought were fake, but its hard to say

Pyxxy talked mainly mechanics, made a flippy floppy reads list, and asked one person if they had seen the movie, and no one else. If I was going to vote now, I'd vote for Pyxxy. But I don't have to so there is that.

Falcon, after Felt, I can't read him to save my life. After watching Cartomancy, I can't read him to save my life. Also, up to this point stress equity. POE.

Lucy hasn't said much plus also stress equity POE

Neon mostly banter, I *think* mostly OT, the two games I played with her she was a civ both times, (and in the game I watched she was a civ) she played totally differently. No real read here. POE. But caveat; in Felt as in Cartomancy, no woofs were yeeted, and the main difference was she was making vote analyses in LGM, and really wasn't in the others. I need to see her post on something she feels strongly about, I think. I have never seen bad Neon.

Seanzie made a bunch of one letter posts, and voted for reasons of his own. IIRC he later said he didn't realize votes were locked in, BUT knew to dig with his vote. I can see a civ reason to want to dig early, more than a bad one, other than evading the spotty lizard, but i don't see that as much of an issue on day one for the woofs, when many spots besides the ones they know about are open. Also stress equity. The POEiest of the POE.

MacDougall, I have zero reads, he made a reads list, not sure if srs; I think prolly not. I'm sure he'll be by to give us a good maccing later. Stress equity.

DrWilgy civ read me fast, which made me feel warm and cozy, and then made me feel paranoid. BUT I like a good chunk of what he said in general. Townlean.

Marmot feels pretty over all good to me. Some srs mixed in with the happy new game banter. Also Townlean.

Kate is asking a lot of questions, feeling things out, seems open minded, and is trying hard to banter. Townlean.

SVS; That's me!

Dennis is one of the reasons I didn't do any reads yesterday; initially he looked very similar to me to how he was playing in Cartomancy, but that game was still going on, and I couldn't make that comparison. He did seem to get less trolly and more srs and solvey later in the day. If I had to vote yesterday, it might have been for Dennis, but stress equity as well as starting to look more like he did in Felt and LGM, moved him from wooflean into POE.

Sabi is solvey and while some OT, also had some good insights. They had a rough day yesterday, so stress equity, plus it's their birthday, so quieter than their norm is understandable. Townlean.

Fingersplints; I couldn't remember a thing she said, so I had to read her. Of her 8 posts, about half were about how she doesn't enjoy/engage in mech discussion. Only real suspish discussing post was agreeing with an equivocating post Marmot made about his reads (which to be fair, I also agreed with). I know she is a low poster in general, so I need to see more (especially her reaction to this poke), but what I did see put her a bit wooflean for me.

I'm home today so I'll be in and out of here.

[S~V~S]

The wolves are MacDougall, pyxxy, and falcon45ca.

For realz or for lolz?

Yeah, I'm having this problem too. Is it real or is it cake?

[Seanzie]

The wolves are MacDougall, pyxxy, and falcon45ca.

For realz or for lolz?

Yeah, I'm having this problem too. Is it real or is it cake?

Falcon is on the list, so seems real enough.

[Seanzie]

I'm back. Have I missed anything?

Yes, you have 7 *votes in spirit* on you.

[Marmot]

The wolves are MacDougall, pyxxy, and falcon45ca.

For realz or for lolz?

Yeah, I'm having this problem too. Is it real or is it cake?

At the moment, it was a list of players who I think I have the weakest argument to call town.

MacDougall: Ignoring meta entirely, he's offered one post of game-related content. I don't think it would take much work for him to change that read, and I expect he will, it just hasn't happened yet.
pyxxy: Mostly mech-related discussion thus far. I think that she's fine on tone, and the discussion points she mentioned have been fruitful, I'm glad she mentioned a scumread, but I would like to know what she saw in the other falcon that she doesn't see now.
falcon45ca: For better or for worse, falcon always seems to be in his wolfrange, and this game is no different. I don't see any bite in his reads, which is the one thing that makes me think it's a little more likely to be right.


@Kate do you have any opinions on these players?

[Marmot]

I agree lucy hasn't been involved at all either, but I don't feel like pressuring her today after the way Cartomancy ended. I'd rather give her a little space for today.

I don't really want to chop Sabi on their birthday, and also I know they're going to be busy today, so I'm mostly leaving them alone today too.




Other people might have different opinion on not pressuring people based on out-of-game reasons. If it wasn't Day 1, I would probably approach this differently, but since it is Day 1, I feel ok with it.

[Marmot]

Seanzie made a bunch of one letter posts, and voted for reasons of his own. IIRC he later said he didn't realize votes were locked in, BUT knew to dig with his vote. I can see a civ reason to want to dig early, more than a bad one, other than evading the spotty lizard, but i don't see that as much of an issue on day one for the woofs, when many spots besides the ones they know about are open. Also stress equity. The POEiest of the POE.

Does POEist of the POE mean you think he's the most or least suspicious of your POE?

I do like the points you raised about him. I agree that him being a wolf and evading the lizard doesn't seem likely, he is a math guy and would know full well there are plenty of spaces to avoid it on Day 1 and feel no rush for that reason.


Overall I still lean him town.

[Marmot]

@Seanzie why did you pick pyxxy of all the players on the list?

[Marmot]

(Cake is real)

[S~V~S]

Seanzie made a bunch of one letter posts, and voted for reasons of his own. IIRC he later said he didn't realize votes were locked in, BUT knew to dig with his vote. I can see a civ reason to want to dig early, more than a bad one, other than evading the spotty lizard, but i don't see that as much of an issue on day one for the woofs, when many spots besides the ones they know about are open. Also stress equity. The POEiest of the POE.

Does POEist of the POE mean you think he's the most or least suspicious of your POE?

I do like the points you raised about him. I agree that him being a wolf and evading the lizard doesn't seem likely, he is a math guy and would know full well there are plenty of spaces to avoid it on Day 1 and feel no rush for that reason.


Overall I still lean him town.

Most undecided, I could see clear reasons of my own to see it either way. I'd have to rely on other peoples reads as of *right now* to push Sean either way. And if possible, I'd rather rely on my own thoughts.

[Marmot]

SVS's POE has layers!!

Can I call it your inner POE?

[Seanzie]

@Seanzie why did you pick pyxxy of all the players on the list?

They had posted. I see now that you and Dennis also had posted, but I don't think I was cognizant of that when I voted. I was in the line for a drink at the bar, and after getting my drink I was going to be with a friend, so I was trying to get through the "town streaking" part and get my vote on the table quickly before the line ended, and so just choose the one person I was aware of having had posted.

[DrWilgy]

Aye, I think it's weird that Sean knew to dig but didn't know that votes were locked.

Like, how much of a slip is it to try to swing for the early power roles?

Yeah, don't really have an explanation. I even remembered all the other things mentioned in the bolded "Important:" thing, but was not aware votes were locked. Clearly I am a great reader

Why would trying to get a power role be a slip?

It's the eagerness.

Scum starts with more data than town SoD1. Figured it may be better for wolves to leverage it while it's available.

I'll start this off by saying I read the rules 3x before I even understood what mayyy be going on. So yes, I've read them.

Don't the wolves only know 3 empty spots? Did I miss something showing they have more info than that?

Scotty updated the setup. The wolves also have some info about where the lizard is.

Yeah, thought about this more. Wolves aren't as informed as I had first believed.

[Marmot]

@Seanzie why did you pick pyxxy of all the players on the list?

They had posted. I see now that you and Dennis also had posted, but I don't think I was cognizant of that when I voted. I was in the line for a drink at the bar, and after getting my drink I was going to be with a friend, so I was trying to get through the "town streaking" part and get my vote on the table quickly before the line ended, and so just choose the one person I was aware of having had posted.

Sounds exactly like something I would do.

Did your friend ask you what "town streaking" meant?

[DrWilgy]

@Marmot can you detail your Splints read for me?

That entry honestly felt the most off. It was very little motivation and an excuse for not engaging in mechanical talk.

Very little motivation sounds pretty standard for me.

Aye, it does, but it's the acknowledgement of mech stuff and preemptive excuse to ignore (what is the greater part of the potential AI posts) mech stuff in combination that's odd.

[Seanzie]

@Seanzie why did you pick pyxxy of all the players on the list?

They had posted. I see now that you and Dennis also had posted, but I don't think I was cognizant of that when I voted. I was in the line for a drink at the bar, and after getting my drink I was going to be with a friend, so I was trying to get through the "town streaking" part and get my vote on the table quickly before the line ended, and so just choose the one person I was aware of having had posted.

Sounds exactly like something I would do.

Did your friend ask you what "town streaking" meant?

They asked, but I refused to clarify. I figured it would be fun to let them ponder on what my night had in store after leaving their company.

[DrWilgy]

Yeah, seems so.

So far Kate and SVS are town.

Pyxxy is null.

Seanzie is wolf lean.

Thoughts on the good doctor?

Feels OK? Do you think otherwise?

Not particularly, no. But right now I'm in a dark room with a napping baby so I can't check my notes

Mac null reading me is wolf indicative.

[DrWilgy]

I hate mech

I also hate those kinds of mechs

[DrWilgy]

So, Falcon's mafia.

Look at the eager beaver

[Marmot]

Yeah, seems so.

So far Kate and SVS are town.

Pyxxy is null.

Seanzie is wolf lean.

Thoughts on the good doctor?

Feels OK? Do you think otherwise?

Not particularly, no. But right now I'm in a dark room with a napping baby so I can't check my notes

peeks over shoulder

Can I see your notes?

[DrWilgy]

@Marmot can you detail your Splints read for me?

That entry honestly felt the most off. It was very little motivation and an excuse for not engaging in mechanical talk.

I can see that. To me, opting out of mech discussion doesn't bother me. I've seen other players do this before, and I don't think it's particularly AI.

What did you find off about it?

The wombo combo. I detailed above.

It's 1. To be low motivation

It's 2. To avoid mech talk (see Sabi, Neon)

It's 3. To do both (just splints so far)

[Seanzie]

So, Falcon's mafia.

Look at the eager beaver

bad

Falcon

[DrWilgy]

*vote falcon*

Last night I had a friend over and we played this awesome SNES game called ``Knights of the Round'', and there is an enemy in which is a falcon, but the name that shows up under it's healthbar is ``bad Falcon''. Pretty sure it was a premonition.

Can't argue with this logic everyone turbo Falcon

...but guys... ...Falcon... Often spews... Town... If... We... Give him time... (Plz notice my pocket dad)

[DrWilgy]

well maybe neon got some sleep haha

Naw I'm at work what's up got any thoughts?

I'm trying to figure out who I would vote for GTH

I watched people kill town!Falcon in the NPC mess and I wasn't brave enough to stand up for him there but, not the same vibes from this Falcon...so I guess I wouldn't defend him again

can't shake the wilgy paranoia

wondering when lucy will return

actually I'm gonna go to sleep now sorry >.<

You waiting for an excuse to vote me or something?

[Seanzie]

*vote falcon*

Last night I had a friend over and we played this awesome SNES game called ``Knights of the Round'', and there is an enemy in which is a falcon, but the name that shows up under it's healthbar is ``bad Falcon''. Pretty sure it was a premonition.

Can't argue with this logic everyone turbo Falcon

...but guys... ...Falcon... Often spews... Town... If... We... Give him time... (Plz notice my pocket dad)

Falcon can't spew himself town because he is a wolf.

[DrWilgy]

Spoiler: show

First, everyone highlighted bricky color are people who were alive for the very intense endgame of another game, and I can cut slack for being a little burnt out. No one is off the table today, but I have no need to vote early, as of right now I have no read on several of the bricky people. Hope to see more of them, although i would also get it if some of them needed air space from Mafia for a day.

1. pyxxy
2. falcon45ca
3. lucy
4. Neon
5. Seanzie
6. Macdougall
7. DrWilgy
8. Marmot
9. Kate
10. S~V~S
11. Dennis
12. Sabiplz
13. fingersplints

The seeming norm now of not using OT green can be confusing to me, I can't always tells when someone means something or it's a joke in some cases. I've seen a few reads lists that I thought were fake, but its hard to say

Pyxxy talked mainly mechanics, made a flippy floppy reads list, and asked one person if they had seen the movie, and no one else. If I was going to vote now, I'd vote for Pyxxy. But I don't have to so there is that.

Falcon, after Felt, I can't read him to save my life. After watching Cartomancy, I can't read him to save my life. Also, up to this point stress equity. POE.

Lucy hasn't said much plus also stress equity POE

Neon mostly banter, I *think* mostly OT, the two games I played with her she was a civ both times, (and in the game I watched she was a civ) she played totally differently. No real read here. POE. But caveat; in Felt as in Cartomancy, no woofs were yeeted, and the main difference was she was making vote analyses in LGM, and really wasn't in the others. I need to see her post on something she feels strongly about, I think. I have never seen bad Neon.

Seanzie made a bunch of one letter posts, and voted for reasons of his own. IIRC he later said he didn't realize votes were locked in, BUT knew to dig with his vote. I can see a civ reason to want to dig early, more than a bad one, other than evading the spotty lizard, but i don't see that as much of an issue on day one for the woofs, when many spots besides the ones they know about are open. Also stress equity. The POEiest of the POE.

MacDougall, I have zero reads, he made a reads list, not sure if srs; I think prolly not. I'm sure he'll be by to give us a good maccing later. Stress equity.

DrWilgy civ read me fast, which made me feel warm and cozy, and then made me feel paranoid. BUT I like a good chunk of what he said in general. Townlean.

Marmot feels pretty over all good to me. Some srs mixed in with the happy new game banter. Also Townlean.

Kate is asking a lot of questions, feeling things out, seems open minded, and is trying hard to banter. Townlean.

SVS; That's me!

Dennis is one of the reasons I didn't do any reads yesterday; initially he looked very similar to me to how he was playing in Cartomancy, but that game was still going on, and I couldn't make that comparison. He did seem to get less trolly and more srs and solvey later in the day. If I had to vote yesterday, it might have been for Dennis, but stress equity as well as starting to look more like he did in Felt and LGM, moved him from wooflean into POE.

Sabi is solvey and while some OT, also had some good insights. They had a rough day yesterday, so stress equity, plus it's their birthday, so quieter than their norm is understandable. Townlean.

Fingersplints; I couldn't remember a thing she said, so I had to read her. Of her 8 posts, about half were about how she doesn't enjoy/engage in mech discussion. Only real suspish discussing post was agreeing with an equivocating post Marmot made about his reads (which to be fair, I also agreed with). I know she is a low poster in general, so I need to see more (especially her reaction to this poke), but what I did see put her a bit wooflean for me.

I'm home today so I'll be in and out of here.

Neon is T I think.

I put a weird post above, but I do think that Falcon still spews given enough time. Otherwise we yeet d3.

Seanzie I'm still foiling wolf, but I recognize that It's just foil re the early vote.

I like the reviews against stress equity. I think it makes a lot of sense, but something I had never known to put to term.

Right now my (would votes are Pyxxy and Splints).

[Seanzie]

Wilgy >rand!wolf, but this is a weak read.

[DrWilgy]

Oic. I'm caught up now.

Toss Mac onto that pile of would votes.

I'd say like right behind the other two.

[DrWilgy]

Wilgy >rand!wolf, but this is a weak read.

Validating Marmite's vote eh?

[Seanzie]

Wilgy >rand!wolf, but this is a weak read.

Validating Marmite's vote eh?

I don't know anything about any marmalades. I just read things and give reads.

[S~V~S]

Can someone tell me if there is a particular nuance to the exclamation mark in something like "rand!wolf". Like does it cover another layer of meaning other than just saying "rand wolf"?

[Seanzie]

Can someone tell me if there is a particular nuance to the exclamation mark in something like "rand!wolf". Like does it cover another layer of meaning other than just saying "rand wolf"?

I do not use it with any extra meaning. It is almost a hyphen, but not quite.

[Seanzie]

Can someone tell me if there is a particular nuance to the exclamation mark in something like "rand!wolf". Like does it cover another layer of meaning other than just saying "rand wolf"?

I do not use it with any extra meaning. It is almost a hyphen, but not quite.

But also I should say, I didn't say "rand!wolf", I said ">rand!wolf", which I read as "greater than random chance of being a wolf".

[S~V~S]

Can someone tell me if there is a particular nuance to the exclamation mark in something like "rand!wolf". Like does it cover another layer of meaning other than just saying "rand wolf"?

I do not use it with any extra meaning. It is almost a hyphen, but not quite.

Thanks! That's what I thought, but I wanted to be sure.

[DrWilgy]

Can someone tell me if there is a particular nuance to the exclamation mark in something like "rand!wolf". Like does it cover another layer of meaning other than just saying "rand wolf"?

I do not use it with any extra meaning. It is almost a hyphen, but not quite.

But also I should say, I didn't say "rand!wolf", I said ">rand!wolf", which I read as "greater than random chance of being a wolf".

I always have to double take it as ! equates to 'not' in my head.