Holes Mafia {TOWN WINS}

[☆Princess Abigail☆]

Shrug yeeting me is kinda silly but like you do you.

[Sabiplz]

Should I vote neon or wilgz

[Sabiplz]

Vote neon

Aubergine

A6 and F6

[Seanzie]

[VOTE: Neon] aubergine dig F4

[pyxxy]

movie time

[VOTE: Sabi] aubergine dig A1

[Seanzie]

Wow, 4 votes with only 13 minutes left

[Seanzie]

movie time

[VOTE: Sabi] aubergine dig A1

You need to vote in the poll.

[Sabiplz]

movie time

[VOTE: Sabi] aubergine dig A1

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[Scotty]

End of Day 3 vote total:
(Honoring pyxxy’s vote since it was in thread)

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DrWilgy
0
No votes
Voters: None
lucy
0
No votes
Voters: None
Marmot
1
9%
Voters: Neon
Neon
3
27%
Voters: Seanzie, Sabiplz, Marmot
pyxxy
0
No votes
Voters: None
Sabiplz
1
9%
Voters: pyxyy
Seanzie
0
No votes
Voters: None

[Scotty]

End of Day 3

The water truck came a little after sunrise. Marmot finished his last drop of water and stepped up in his hole. At this time of day, Marmot sometimes could see some distant hills or mountains on the other side of the lake. They were only visible for a short while and would soon disappear behind the haze of heat and dirt.

A little bit away, Marmot heard DrWilgy stop and ask, presumably, a higher power, “can you change me to a 3p that gets to play as the yellow spotted lizard? I desire to make lizard sounds.” He added the last but with a flourish of hissing noises.

‘Good to know I’m not the only one possibly going insane out here,’ Marmot thought ruefully.

The water truck stopped, and the dust cloud drifted past it. The other kids all leapt to get in line. A tall woman with red hair stepped out of the driver’s seat. She looked even taller than she was, since Marmot was down in his hole. She wore a black cowboy hat and black cowboy boots which were studded with turquoise stones. The sleeves on her shirt were rolled up, and her arms were covered with freckles, as was her face. She walked right up to Lucy.
"Have you found anything useful yet to show me?”

Lucy said nothing and backed up.
"Your good work will be rewarded." She turned to Marmot.
“Marmot, will you come here, please?"
Marmot was surprised she knew his name. He had never seen her. Until she stepped out of the truck, he didn't even know the Warden was a woman.

Marmot inched towards her, head bowed low.

“It’s okay. I don’t bite. The lizards do enough of that for me.” She looked him up and down. “Got anything for me, Marmot?”

Marmot squinted and looked down the road to where he could still spy fingersplints’ body surrounded by carrion birds.

“I…I think I might. It’s in fingersplints’ pocket.”

The Warden turned, only now seeing the decaying body along the road for the first time. She then made a beeline for the boy, and the group could see her shooing away the buzzards and lunging for the body’s pockets with such efficiency, Marmot thought she’d done it before.

After some cursory digging, the Warden stood up with a peculiar tube in her hand. She inspected it and then immediately started applying the remnants of the lipstick to her lips.

With a glow about her, she sauntered back to the boys. And began to sputter. Her tongue felt like it was on fire. Then her throat. Then her chest. Then her heart.

Then she fell, to the stunned confusion of everyone there.

Neon has been eliminated. They were

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The Warden, a member of Mafia! Your team wins when you reach parity with town.

It Is now Night 3.

Night 3 will end Sunday 1/22 at 7p Eastern.

[Scotty]

Day 4

It made no sense to Stanley. Like clockwork, the kids started digging again, as if the curator of their condemnation hadn’t just dropped dead from a poisonous lipstick container.

Everyone saw it, and soon thereafter, X-ray picked up his shovel to get back to digging. Then Magnet. Then the rest of them, until Stanley himself was working on the edges of his five-by-five foot hole. Were their spirits really that broken?

Apparently they were. And Stanley wasn’t going to take it any more.

“Hey guys…guys! I say we just take off. Just walk outta here! There’s bound to be a town or something somewhere out there where we can escape to!” He announced feebly.
Stanley had never been particularly good at public speaking and this was confirmed when no one looked his direction or missed a beat with their digging.

Stanley couldn’t believe it. He sure wished he had a friend that could back him up and go along with him. But alas, he had zero friends.

Just then, he could hear the tires of a distant pickup truck, and a gun shot.

All the boys stopped and looked towards the commotion. Mr. Sir was ostensibly driving full speed towards them. A few more shots were fired in their general direction.

X-ray scrambled out of his hole. “I ain’t staying for this!”

Now the kids were scrambling like cockroaches in a spotlight. Shots continued to be fired. Stanley took off in one direction. Magnet and X-ray sprinted in a different one. Someone dropped. Stanley looked back, but not for long. Mr. Sir was obviously not in a bargaining mood. He ran as hard and as fast towards what looked like distant mountains, and didn’t stop.

Seanzie has died! He was

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Magnet, town-aligned. You win when all mafia are dead!

It Is now Day 4. If you do not dig a hole today, you must dig two holes tomorrow. When choosing a plot, please do so in the same post as your vote. As a reminder, votes are NOT CHANGEABLE. @DrWilgy and @lucy did not dig a hole yesterday and must dig two today.

Day 4 will end in 48 hours, or whenever the last player has voted.

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@DrWilgy
@lucy
@Marmot
@pyxxy
@Sabiplz

[Sabiplz]

I want to die. I voted two wolves let me die

[pyxxy]

Shrug yeeting me is kinda silly but like you do you.

lol

[pyxxy]

@Sabiplz sorry about voting for you. I really did think it was TvT. Hadn't seen scum Neon before and she has always complained about being misyeeted often for her playstyle so I guess I bought it. Now I will yeet town Neon without regrets forever o7

[Sabiplz]

@Sabiplz sorry about voting for you. I really did think it was TvT. Hadn't seen scum Neon before and she has always complained about being misyeeted often for her playstyle so I guess I bought it. Now I will yeet town Neon without regrets forever o7

Your saw her wolf in webdip

[pyxxy]

@Sabiplz sorry about voting for you. I really did think it was TvT. Hadn't seen scum Neon before and she has always complained about being misyeeted often for her playstyle so I guess I bought it. Now I will yeet town Neon without regrets forever o7

Your saw her wolf in webdip

I did?

[pyxxy]

oh also uh I dug up the double vote last night so I've got 2x vote power today

any chance that someone used the cop check last night and we can clear another person besides Sabi?

[Sabiplz]

Why am I alive

[pyxxy]

Why am I alive

my guess is that the last scum wants to bring you to KILO as an option to make you look suspicious i.e. "why hasn't Sabi died when they're towncleared :tinfoil:"

[robyn]

all my reads were bad and i've lost the sauce for mafia, i'm sheeping consensus today

[robyn]

i'm worse than rand

[pyxxy]

Based on their prior opinions, I'm expecting Wilgy and Marmot to push you today, Lucy.

[DrWilgy]

I'd never push Lucy

[DrWilgy]

New colored spreads for review:

D1
DrWilgy 3
Voters: Marmot, Dennis, pyxxy
falcon45ca 1
Voters: Sabiplz, Kate, S~V~S, fingersplints
fingersplints 1
Voters: DrWilgy
Neon 1
Voters: falcon45ca
pyxxy 1
Voters: Seanzie

D2
Dennis 4
Voters: MacDougall, Neon, Marmot, lucy
fingersplints 1
Voters: DrWilgy
Macdougall 4
Voters: Dennis, pyxxy, Sabiplz, Seanzie

D3
Marmot 1
Voters: Neon
Neon 3
Voters: Seanzie, Sabiplz, Marmot
Sabiplz 1
Voters: pyxyy

[DrWilgy]

Thoughts:
D1 wagonomics are still off due to the missing votes. I suggested that the falcon wagon couldn't be pure and Mac encouraged that, makes me think that it could actually just be pure. Poor Falcs. Raises the question of if the voters on me was pure. Likely Pyxxy containing wolf if it's between Marmot Pyxxy.

D2 Mac I think joined Neon and Lucy, then after Marmot joined the Dennis? Rough look for Marmot I think, but I'd need to validate that. Does Mac join a wagon with 2 other teammates on it? He was pretty open in discussion with Neon, so maybe. I'd need to check the timing on Pyxy and Sabi's votes. (if I can get other opinions/or if you know the sequence of events for this day, that'd be helpful.)

D3 Neon wagon seems pure.

Conclusions:
Think the wolf just has to be in Pyxxy/Lucy.

Mainly on ask, 'Would W!Marmot cross with W!Neon when easier alternatives in Lucy/Wilgy exist?' Maybe, but that's a hard gamble. Plus there was the post Marmot made towards Mac that didn't feel like it could come from a teammate slot.

Idk if this is the correct way to phrase this, but it almost feels irresponsible to not yeet Lucy this cycle.

[DrWilgy]

like did you forget to hit post on a draft or something

This just feels ungenuine. The implication here is that by making a post like this you are already convinced that I'm Neon's teammate, but you don't outright say it.

[Sabiplz]

It's either Wilgz or Lucy

@Marmot @pyxxy

Who to go firat

[DrWilgy]

She has defended both Mac and Neon, so a Mac/lucy/neon team is not far-fetched at all.

this is a good lv1 team. I think.

I still intend on going through Mac's iso specifically but this is a team I can see. If I'm wrong about a slot and W are not in [Lucy, Neon] then I think there's likely one in Marmot, but I have NO clue who the teammate is. Pyxxy maybe? You've been soft defending them quite abit this game.

Was this a POE you came to on your own, or were you sheeping mine?

Both? It's a logical conclusion I feel. Neon has enough scum weight and Lucy did defend the slot.

If I'm wrong on a read it really would just be you. Like, unless Mac was all in on the 'bus me bois' but, again, future me problem.

you're going to say "look here's my PoE" but this is very explicitly walking around claiming it as your own

you're all like "dang wow we have the same PoE" but that puts all the blame on Marmot if you're wrong about Neon

you're happy to shade Sabi

And maybe it's the fact that I've seen them do this exact play before, so I'm looking for it, but I really do feel Mac told Sabi to bus them. The tempo then changed when he decided to vote for Dennis and that's when he went into a chaos state.

yet they're not in your PoE?

Why not?

Aye, yeah because that's the conclusion I can to as well at just about the same time.

Feel like this point would be moot if I wasn't willing to claim it as my own, so where's the argument weight "that I could blame Marmot" come from?

How do I go "but you disregard MY PoE" if my intention was to eventually go "but it's Marmots PoE"? The argument just doesn't make sense.

Not really.

I can acknowledge that my Sabi read is 100% tinfoil fear based on Misplay Mafia (that wolf theater inspired true fear). It makes me want to tip toe there because I can see the situation where I'm getting got. By going "look it" perhaps the chance of getting got is decreased.

[DrWilgy]

It's either Wilgz or Lucy

@Marmot @pyxxy

Who to go firat

Sabi, how is it possibly me?

[DrWilgy]

Like fr, what quantified analysis points you in the direction that it's me?

I've felt that this game, you've had a gut read of "I've got the Wilgy tell" and that's just been perpetual.

[DrWilgy]

It hasn't evolved, it hasn't had any real defined read data, it's been throwing shit at the wall and hoping it's correct.

[DrWilgy]

Like, I have a VERY minor theory that Pyxxy voted Sabi to encourage me acting up on my tinfoil, and enable a save.

Idk how I'd apply more read data to that one.

[DrWilgy]

@Sabiplz sorry about voting for you. I really did think it was TvT. Hadn't seen scum Neon before and she has always complained about being misyeeted often for her playstyle so I guess I bought it. Now I will yeet town Neon without regrets forever o7

Your saw her wolf in webdip

I did?

I'm pretty sure I have a very vivid memory of Neon and Sabi discussing T Pyxxy in our wolf chat in Hot Fuzz.

[DrWilgy]

oh also uh I dug up the double vote last night so I've got 2x vote power today

any chance that someone used the cop check last night and we can clear another person besides Sabi?

So in the situation where you are wolf, you can pretty much always cause a tie if town isn't unanimous.

Don't like that.

Does wolf Pyxxy just lie here? Does wolf Pyxxy state this?

Maybe not. Idk this makes me think it's just gotta be Lucy.

[DrWilgy]

@lucy, where's your head at.
If we are wrong about you, why? Who's taking advantage of it?

[Marmot]

It's either Wilgz or Lucy

@Marmot @pyxxy

Who to go firat

I'm fine with this tbh.

I think w!pyxxy would've killed someone other than Sean last night (like probably me or you since we'd been pushing him the most of anyone).

The one thing that gives me pause is that if pyxxy is the wolf, he does have the double-vote, which would be a danger in lylo, but Wilgy and lucy have higher equity imo.

[Marmot]

The other thing that's weird is that pyxxy has found two abilites while the rest of the game has found zero. The odds of that are so low...

[Sabiplz]

It's either Wilgz or Lucy

@Marmot @pyxxy

Who to go firat

Sabi, how is it possibly me?

You didn't vote wolf twice

[Sabiplz]

You didn't eve. Vote wolf once

[Marmot]

oh also uh I dug up the double vote last night so I've got 2x vote power today

any chance that someone used the cop check last night and we can clear another person besides Sabi?

So in the situation where you are wolf, you can pretty much always cause a tie if town isn't unanimous.

Don't like that.

Does wolf Pyxxy just lie here? Does wolf Pyxxy state this?

Maybe not. Idk this makes me think it's just gotta be Lucy.

The mechanically optimal play is to chop pyxxy today if they're POE, because if we don't and the is a wolf, he can do exactly what you say, guarantee at least a tied vote in LYLO and a 50/50 chance at a W.


From my POV, I just don't know if he's quite that POE.

[Sabiplz]

You have pushed a half assed tinfoil on me that isn't even accurate. I'm out of my wolf range

[DrWilgy]

It's either Wilgz or Lucy

@Marmot @pyxxy

Who to go firat

Sabi, how is it possibly me?

You didn't vote wolf twice

K. Technically you were the only one who did.

Is pure vote weight how you solve me? You should know better on my slot.

[DrWilgy]

You didn't eve. Vote wolf once

True.

Why is that? Why wouldn't I have taken the easy obvious bus on Neon?

[Marmot]

w!Sabi wouldn't kill Sean imo. They had essentially the same vote record, and if Sabi was going to lylo, they'd want Sean around as well, and Sean was never going to chop them.

[DrWilgy]

oh also uh I dug up the double vote last night so I've got 2x vote power today

any chance that someone used the cop check last night and we can clear another person besides Sabi?

So in the situation where you are wolf, you can pretty much always cause a tie if town isn't unanimous.

Don't like that.

Does wolf Pyxxy just lie here? Does wolf Pyxxy state this?

Maybe not. Idk this makes me think it's just gotta be Lucy.

The mechanically optimal play is to chop pyxxy today if they're POE, because if we don't and the is a wolf, he can do exactly what you say, guarantee at least a tied vote in LYLO and a 50/50 chance at a W.


From my POV, I just don't know if he's quite that POE.

I don't think the ability can be carried over. @Scotty clarification plz?

If so, maybe we just ignore the power altogether.

[Marmot]

Sabi, how confident are you that pyxxy is town?

[Marmot]

Oooh good call, I didn't realize it was a next-day specific power.

Thank goodness, because vote-manipulation roles shouldn't exist in lylo imo.

[DrWilgy]

You have pushed a half assed tinfoil on me that isn't even accurate. I'm out of my wolf range

How is it not accurate? I've seen you take credit sinking the Mac ship before as his teammate specifically? Maybe there wasn't as much gusto (and that is honestly why I've been holding back on the listening to tinfoil), but I still think it's a valid thought process to explore and deduce from.

[Marmot]

uwu

[DrWilgy]

w!Sabi wouldn't kill Sean imo. They had essentially the same vote record, and if Sabi was going to lylo, they'd want Sean around as well, and Sean was never going to chop them.

This makes sense.