Game of Champions 2022 mafia win lol

[nutella]

Waot

[EnderWiggin]

[VOTE: Sig] aubergine

Scotty is also good but I see other people poking that so I'm going to poke this.

[MacDougall]

I thought Sabi was in their wolf meta idk about now

and you killed him for it, you're literally the Jews and Cape was Jesus

[nutella]

Scotty killed him didn't he

[sig]

There’s a 90% chance Mac is lying about his role and he gets some sort of power from votes tbh

Literally said this prior to EOD

I don't really think he is lying about his role right now

Right but, the post I quoted was from last eod when he was pretending to be a cop and claiming everyone believed him

[nutella]

Lmao sorry I'm multitasking haha

[Creature]

Oh that's annoying

[Urist]

I gotta go but I'm just going to park my vote on golden since any other exe is going to be suboptimal atm

I kinda think with Cape being town and iawy being very likely wolf that Golden was townsiding hard last EOD and am thus inclined to give him space

Golden refused to vote iawy because he was 'afraid of a tie', if iawy is mafia then golden most certainly is as well because that is the lamest damn excuse I've ever heard.
Golden thought cape was 100% town but didn't vote the counter wagon? For real??

Not 100%

The case on cape was poor, I don’t think he was a good choice, but in the absence of knowing he’s town, no tie is inherently better odds than a tie.

Ah right, you must have just been hungry when you suggested you'd eat 5kg of hat over a cape mafia flip, I understand

[Creature]

Ok let's get Scotty

[VOTE: Scotty] aubergine

[MacDougall]

I’m really getting some major pings from Macs instance that’s everyone believed his claim when like nobody did plus the fact his iron clad mafia read just flipped Town.


I’m not at the point where I think he’s mafia, but I don’t think he knows what’s going on either

oh never mind ur town

[nutella]

[VOTE: party crasher ] aubergine

Idfk lol

[Creature]

[VOTE: Party Crasher] aubergine

[MacDougall]

There’s a 90% chance Mac is lying about his role and he gets some sort of power from votes tbh

Literally said this prior to EOD

I don't really think he is lying about his role right now

Right but, the post I quoted was from last eod when he was pretending to be a cop and claiming everyone believed him

yeah yeah ur town you can stop now

[sig]

I’m really getting some major pings from Macs instance that’s everyone believed his claim when like nobody did plus the fact his iron clad mafia read just flipped Town.


I’m not at the point where I think he’s mafia, but I don’t think he knows what’s going on either

oh never mind ur town

I……….wtf Mac

[Golden]

Alright Golden you were right that everyone getting pushed yesterday was town so tell us who the wolves are cuz you have the best reads

I told you yesterday the two shitty wolf things that were happening

The push on Kate
The ‘too many people to make reads’

Guillo fits both. I think he’s wolf.

I also think the case on cape was shit and I need to look back at whose case was the worst, especially anyone pushing the ‘hunting for 3p is wolfy’ line that is just never true.

[sig]

But also okay

[Creature]

Meh I am struggling to get townreads

[Golden]

This entire game to date has been people pushing trope ‘this is wolfy’ angles that are objectively describing NAI behaviour.

[nutella]

Creature town for that maybe

Look ma I accidentally did a reaction test

[MacDougall]

Sabi anxious to volume clear themselves off a bunch of fluff posts is sus

probs just gonna clear falcon for this

[sig]

Unless we assume Scotty and the entire mafia team weren’t paying attention to the thread I don’t see why a mafia scotty would’ve shot IAWY right now.

[Golden]

I gotta go but I'm just going to park my vote on golden since any other exe is going to be suboptimal atm

I kinda think with Cape being town and iawy being very likely wolf that Golden was townsiding hard last EOD and am thus inclined to give him space

Golden refused to vote iawy because he was 'afraid of a tie', if iawy is mafia then golden most certainly is as well because that is the lamest damn excuse I've ever heard.
Golden thought cape was 100% town but didn't vote the counter wagon? For real??

Not 100%

The case on cape was poor, I don’t think he was a good choice, but in the absence of knowing he’s town, no tie is inherently better odds than a tie.

Ah right, you must have just been hungry when you suggested you'd eat 5kg of hat over a cape mafia flip, I understand

Or, you know, maybe I’m just not terrible at this.

[EnderWiggin]

Damn I got distracted with work (how dare I’m forced to work on a work day) and I lost my post.

I’ve got pretty solid civ reads on: Golden, Allison, Nutella & Lucy. But I do think SVS point on Golden/Kate could have some merit.

/slight civ reads on:
Rondo
Gullio
Michelle
Neon
Urist

I’d not want to vote off this phase

Marmot
Scotty
Sloonie
Wilgy
Mac
Cap
Le petit (even though they voted for me)
TSP
Svs
Anyone that hasn’t posted

Prime eyeballing in order of most scumish

Dennis
Creature
Kate
TSP
Wilgy


I know the last two are on my not voting off list, so while I’m. Leery of them I’d not vote for them today.


Also honorary mention is Sabie. They’re here and very active, but not really contributing that much yet. They’re also not showcasing that normal townie indecisiveness I’d expect.

I'm sabi not sabie

You only played one game with me

Well shit, no wonder I was so confused that game.

I’m striking my Sabi read until further notice and dying from embarrassment instead

This feels like a fake derp because a) it was announced sabie is a mod in the game and b) you didn't have this issue in cartomacy

Sooooo hmmmm

This set of quotes is part of why I think Sig needs looking at.

[MacDougall]

This entire game to date has been people pushing trope ‘this is wolfy’ angles that are objectively describing NAI behaviour.

you are not wrong, I'm gonna just let you have your choice of things today honestly cuz if you're town i'd be throwing not to and if you're mafia well... it'll be more obvious if you get your way lol

[RondoDimBuckle]

In most worlds you just die literally overnight to a vig shot if you're town, and if not you die today, so why the hell would you loverise me and not someone scummy that you can take down with you?

Because I can't choose bind myself to whoever I loverize until today, it's decidedly a day action. So why would I waste my action to tie myself to someone I think is mafia that's not actually a tie and just waste a glorified overnight neighbor chat when I can instead try and coordinate with people I think are town and play with the expectation that I am not going to die and can actually use my role as a benefit to town?

Why would you loverise a scummy person when you are a near certain d2 lim? Is that a real question?

YES BECAUSE YOU ASKED ME WHY I CHOOSE SOMEONE I THINK IS TOWNY IF I WAS LIKELY TO DIE OVERNIGHT

DO NOT THEN COMPLETELY IGNORE WHAT I SAID TO ASK MY WHY I DIDN'T CHOOSE SOMEONE SCUMMY IF I WAS LIKELY TO DIE TODAY, THAT IS LITERALLY CHANGING THE GOALPOSTS TO CONTINUE TO THUNDERDOME YOUR SCUMBONER ON ME, HOW ARE YOU THIS DENSE THAT YOU CANNOT SEE BEYOND YOUR TUNNEL?

sir, your cruise control is on

[Urist]

This entire game to date has been people pushing trope ‘this is wolfy’ angles that are objectively describing NAI behaviour.

First time playing mafia?

[Creature]

Neon is the most obvious town

I think Marmot has been genuinely town yesterday

sig is my pet townread

Kate I still believe is town but idk how much I am feeling about it goddamn

I believe Rondo to be town

Oh Lilypetal is also likely town because I trust she used her role thing on Sabiplz

I have no idea on who else

Perhaps lucy was right about Alison being town

Then there's Mac which I believe to be telling the truth about his role but may still be a wolf version

Oh right I guess Guillotine is also town for reasons I don't want to say rn

[sig]

If there's a hyperposting vig im fucked

I think mafia might have a hyper posting vig

[nutella]

Unless we assume Scotty and the entire mafia team weren’t paying attention to the thread I don’t see why a mafia scotty would’ve shot IAWY right now.

Yeah I mean possible he just decided to "out"/sac himself but I think it's prolly just a town shot


Ehhhh


I keep changing my mind lol

[EnderWiggin]

Rondo fake derping is also probably wolfy

[Creature]

Sabi anxious to volume clear themselves off a bunch of fluff posts is sus

probs just gonna clear falcon for this

Neon is the most obvious town

I think Marmot has been genuinely town yesterday

sig is my pet townread

Kate I still believe is town but idk how much I am feeling about it goddamn

I believe Rondo to be town

Oh Lilypetal is also likely town because I trust she used her role thing on Sabiplz

I have no idea on who else

Perhaps lucy was right about Alison being town

Then there's Mac which I believe to be telling the truth about his role but may still be a wolf version

Oh right I guess Guillotine is also town for reasons I don't want to say rn

Oh right falcon45ca also in for that list

[☆Princess Abigail☆]

Neon is the most obvious town

I think Marmot has been genuinely town yesterday

sig is my pet townread

Kate I still believe is town but idk how much I am feeling about it goddamn

I believe Rondo to be town

Oh Lilypetal is also likely town because I trust she used her role thing on Sabiplz

I have no idea on who else

Perhaps lucy was right about Alison being town

Then there's Mac which I believe to be telling the truth about his role but may still be a wolf version

Oh right I guess Guillotine is also town for reasons I don't want to say rn

We should kill everyone trying to say I'm a wolf really

[MacDougall]

I'm just trying to think whether thinking I'm mafia is even reasonable at this point and I'm just not sure

[nutella]

I'm so confused rn should come back when I can focus

[RondoDimBuckle]

In most worlds you just die literally overnight to a vig shot if you're town, and if not you die today, so why the hell would you loverise me and not someone scummy that you can take down with you?

Because I can't choose bind myself to whoever I loverize until today, it's decidedly a day action. So why would I waste my action to tie myself to someone I think is mafia that's not actually a tie and just waste a glorified overnight neighbor chat when I can instead try and coordinate with people I think are town and play with the expectation that I am not going to die and can actually use my role as a benefit to town?

Why would you loverise a scummy person when you are a near certain d2 lim? Is that a real question?

YES BECAUSE YOU ASKED ME WHY I CHOOSE SOMEONE I THINK IS TOWNY IF I WAS LIKELY TO DIE OVERNIGHT

DO NOT THEN COMPLETELY IGNORE WHAT I SAID TO ASK MY WHY I DIDN'T CHOOSE SOMEONE SCUMMY IF I WAS LIKELY TO DIE TODAY, THAT IS LITERALLY CHANGING THE GOALPOSTS TO CONTINUE TO THUNDERDOME YOUR SCUMBONER ON ME, HOW ARE YOU THIS DENSE THAT YOU CANNOT SEE BEYOND YOUR TUNNEL?

im sure it would be frustrating being in your situation but you must understand that the way I play, probability oriented, renders it impossible for me to let you live given the set of scenarios surrounding you... it's nothing personal so don't think it's "cuz mac hates my guts"... i like u.

dennis + IAWY (Preflipping town and assuming you live) = 2/3

[☆Princess Abigail☆]

If there's a hyperposting vig im fucked

I think mafia might have a hyper posting vig

I think it's unlikely

[MacDougall]

Rondo fake derping is also probably wolfy

Rondo is actually mafia hey

[nutella]

sure if iawy is town we'll take the free pelt that is scotty

Lmao ok maybe

[Golden]

This entire game to date has been people pushing trope ‘this is wolfy’ angles that are objectively describing NAI behaviour.

you are not wrong, I'm gonna just let you have your choice of things today honestly cuz if you're town i'd be throwing not to and if you're mafia well... it'll be more obvious if you get your way lol

Honestly, mac, for people who know me it should be fucking obvious that I’m not, I’m sort of surprised you’re still not on board.

I’m genuinely making zero effort to endeavour to be ambiguous this game. I’m signalling my meta that people who know me should know very very strongly.

[Scotty]

@Inawordyes has died, he flips TOWN:

**Love Is In The Air**

This game starts the day after Valentine's day now, so it's probably in a few other things too ayyyyyyyyyyyyy

Anyways on d1, pick someone to be your lover. You'll receive a chat with them on n1 and d2. By EOD2 you may decide to Get Engaged or Break Up. If you Break Up, you can pick a new lover to have a hood with for n2 and d3. If you Get Engaged you have a hood with the same person for n2 and d3.

On d3:

If you Broke Up, you have the option to Break Up or Get Married--a d3 Break Up will kill your current lover, and you may choose a new one for n3/d4. If you Get Married, see Married section.

If you Broke Up on D3 and chose a new lover, on D4 you will have the choice to Break Up again, killing your lover, or Get Married to your lover. You may not take a new lover, even if you Break Up.

Married section: if you Get Married, you will not be allowed to take any new lovers, and if either you or your lover die you will both die. However you will receive a 24/7 hood for the rest of the game, and you have a 50% chance to receive an alignment check on them.

Spoiler: show

@ 112
@ Alison
@ Creature
@ DrWilgy
@ Dyslexicon
@ EnderWiggin
@ falcon45ca
@ Golden
@ Guillotine
@ hollowkatt
@ Kate
@ Lilypetal
@ MacDougall
@ Marmot
@ master radishes
@ Michelle
@ Neon
@ Nutella
@ Party Crasher
@ Porscha
@ RondoDimBuckle
@ S~V~S
@ Scotty
@ Seanzie
@ sig
@ Sloonei
@ Urist

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[VOTE: scotty] aubergine

With iawy town I think his insight on Scotty is very very worth following

oh come off it nutella. You wanted iawy just as dead as I did.

Pot meet kettle

[Golden]

Rondo fake derping is also probably wolfy

Rondo is actually mafia hey

I wouldn’t be surprised. I don’t have warm rondo feels yet.

[Creature]

Leftovers:

112
DrWilgy
Dyslexicon
EnderWiggin
Golden
hollowkatt
master radishes
Michelle
Nutella
Party Crasher
Porscha
S~V~S
Scotty
Seanzie
Sloonei
Urist

[MacDougall]

This entire game to date has been people pushing trope ‘this is wolfy’ angles that are objectively describing NAI behaviour.

you are not wrong, I'm gonna just let you have your choice of things today honestly cuz if you're town i'd be throwing not to and if you're mafia well... it'll be more obvious if you get your way lol

Honestly, mac, for people who know me it should be fucking obvious that I’m not, I’m sort of surprised you’re still not on board.

I’m genuinely making zero effort to endeavour to be ambiguous this game. I’m signalling my meta that people who know me should know very very strongly.

Yeah yeah okay but I've only read like 25% of the game and hardly any of your posts and just started tunneling you because of your post count so forget all that

[Creature]

I'm just trying to think whether thinking I'm mafia is even reasonable at this point and I'm just not sure

Your push on IAWY makes me paranoid but meh keep going on

[RondoDimBuckle]

Still can't get over the nasty feeling Mac may be powerwolfing here.

Spoiler: show

In most worlds you just die literally overnight to a vig shot if you're town, and if not you die today, so why the hell would you loverise me and not someone scummy that you can take down with you?

Because I can't choose bind myself to whoever I loverize until today, it's decidedly a day action. So why would I waste my action to tie myself to someone I think is mafia that's not actually a tie and just waste a glorified overnight neighbor chat when I can instead try and coordinate with people I think are town and play with the expectation that I am not going to die and can actually use my role as a benefit to town?

Why would you loverise a scummy person when you are a near certain d2 lim? Is that a real question?

YES BECAUSE YOU ASKED ME WHY I CHOOSE SOMEONE I THINK IS TOWNY IF I WAS LIKELY TO DIE OVERNIGHT

DO NOT THEN COMPLETELY IGNORE WHAT I SAID TO ASK MY WHY I DIDN'T CHOOSE SOMEONE SCUMMY IF I WAS LIKELY TO DIE TODAY, THAT IS LITERALLY CHANGING THE GOALPOSTS TO CONTINUE TO THUNDERDOME YOUR SCUMBONER ON ME, HOW ARE YOU THIS DENSE THAT YOU CANNOT SEE BEYOND YOUR TUNNEL?

im sure it would be frustrating being in your situation but you must understand that the way I play, probability oriented, renders it impossible for me to let you live given the set of scenarios surrounding you... it's nothing personal so don't think it's "cuz mac hates my guts"... i like u.

THIS IS NOTHING PROBABILITY-BASED ABOUT THIS, YOU ASKED ME A QUESTION, I GAVE YOU AN ANSWER, AND THEN YOU CRITICIZED MY RESPONSE USING A COMPLETELY DIFFERENT QUESTION THAN THE ONE YOU ASKED

everything is probability based when you don't have perfect information

you were the c/w to a town which makes you probably mafia

you targeted me with a loveriser type role n1, which is also probably the action of a mafia

it's obviously probability based

What is pinging me is that in Cartomancy or whatever Mac and I had already discussed Probability based play being the best play for town and he and I both rolled town and he refused to work with me in probablity based play counter wagon strategy and here he is sticking to it like glue not even hearing IAWY out. So I am not sure how to read that. Starting to Agree with creature but I also dont want to defend a probable mafia because Mac is objectively right

[Creature]

Leftovers:

112
DrWilgy
Dyslexicon
EnderWiggin
Golden
hollowkatt
master radishes
Michelle
Nutella
Party Crasher
Porscha
RondoDimBuckle
S~V~S
Scotty
Seanzie
Sloonei
Urist

Ok I am adding RondoDimBuckle back

[Scotty]

[VOTE: Sig] aubergine

Scotty is also good but I see other people poking that so I'm going to poke this.

What did your question to me last night mean to you?

[MacDougall]

I'm just trying to think whether thinking I'm mafia is even reasonable at this point and I'm just not sure

Your push on IAWY makes me paranoid but meh keep going on

meh iawy was the counterwagon (i didn't cause) and loverised me n1, I was always gonna go bananas on him today it's literally part of my ruleset

[nutella]

Scotty looks real bad atm

Nvm I'm back to thinking this idk why I assumed otherwise

Something vibe tell something dodged early sus into v/v/v wagons something figured hea toast soon anyway and gets the free kill off on iawy in the open

[VOTE: scotty] aubergine

[EnderWiggin]

Nutella said my reads list is pushing a wolf agenda:

Let's compare our poe list:

Mine:
Scummy:
Sig
Wilgz
Porscha
Dennis
HK
Guillo

Nutellas:
could vote d1
112 (just 0post null)
dennis (actually do not want to wagon here but fits more on this side of the divide)
ender
hk
iawy
lily (also prob not)
porscha
pyxxy (fence)
svs
sabi
scotty (fence)


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Yea I'm the one discrediting town people and pushing an agenda???

Make it. Make sense

Nutella probably lock town just on this.