Game of Champions 2022 mafia win lol

[nutella]

[VOTE: Seanzie] aubergine

literally no one has mentioned seanzie in all the random lists of names. it's a bad sign, tbh.

This applies to a bunch of people. Lily and dizzy, off the top of my head. These people aren't being included in lists because they aren't posting

lily and dizzy have at least been mentioned a couple times since sod to remind me of their existence

idk it's probably nothing and i thought sean was ok when they were posting

[RondoDimBuckle]

If we’re playing multiball, that changes the whole dynamic. Everyone picking apart sabi’s ISO doesn’t mean towncred, as mafia would want to hunt for other mafia teams too

There’s still lost wolves so I’m hesitant to do full townclears, more ‘wouldn’t elim without more info’

What makes you think there are lost wolves?

The sign up rules specifically calling out the mechanics around them obtaining the factional kill once mafia has been eliminated.

Seriously, how is this even a discussion? There are obviously hidden wolves

[MacDougall]

If we’re playing multiball, that changes the whole dynamic. Everyone picking apart sabi’s ISO doesn’t mean towncred, as mafia would want to hunt for other mafia teams too

i suppose we might be

[Golden]

Ok yeah the faction is “soup mafia” and the role is “vanilla soup”. Is it angle shooting to speculate/ask about nanook hosting tropes?

[Urist]

I'm pretty sure the rules are copy-pasted. I wouldn't put any stock into any small details in a Nanook game honestly

[Golden]

If we’re playing multiball, that changes the whole dynamic. Everyone picking apart sabi’s ISO doesn’t mean towncred, as mafia would want to hunt for other mafia teams too

There’s still lost wolves so I’m hesitant to do full townclears, more ‘wouldn’t elim without more info’

What makes you think there are lost wolves?

The sign up rules specifically calling out the mechanics around them obtaining the factional kill once mafia has been eliminated.

Seriously, how is this even a discussion? There are obviously hidden wolves

It’s a discussion because Alison can’t get past her inherent sus of me, that’s it. I actually think it’s kinda town-leaning.

[Urist]

Ok yeah the faction is “soup mafia” and the role is “vanilla soup”. Is it angle shooting to speculate/ask about nanook hosting tropes?

Nanook hosting meta is that Nanook does what he wants lol

[Golden]

Ok yeah the faction is “soup mafia” and the role is “vanilla soup”. Is it angle shooting to speculate/ask about nanook hosting tropes?

Nanook hosting meta is that Nanook does what he wants lol

Oh well, it’ll become clear over time.

[RondoDimBuckle]

[VOTE: cape] aubergine

sorry mac im afraid if u'll shoot me i dont wanna die

this was pc unvoting me when i asked people to vote me so i could check them btw

specifically voted you to see if you would shoot me. I am trying to decide if wolf mac shoots me or not, leaning towards not

yeah wolf mac definitely always shoots the hyper threat dennis over a player that makes a point of trolling me in every game

Also I resent the disingenuous argument here. The flakk you would get for shooting me, high WIM high thread presence town leader vs dennis is not even comprable. Dennis is an easy kill of the people voting you BECAUSE he was in the sus pool. No one is blinking twice at it and the proof is in how little everyone is at your face about it. Jokes were made about it. I doubt it would be the same if you killed me

[Scotty]

Someone pick a name for me to put my vote on, please.

please tell me your opinion on Sloonie / Kate / SVS and Wilgy / Urist / Ender?

Sloonei appears detached, but I trust him to pick his spots.

Kate and SVS are top blokes, good eggs, and long-time veterans whose play styles will not conform to the new generation of players.

Wilgy is most definitely a doctor.

Urist exists in this game. I have seen him post on occasion.

Ender, I suppose, also exists in this game. I do not recall actively reading anything they have said.

What about SVS and Kate makes you think they’re good eggs? Old vs new PlayStyle isn’t something I’m even using to consider. SVS is quite literally on the fringe of conversations but not picking her shots or making waves. I expect more of a bulldog approach from SVS. Could it be that she’s waiting for the chaff to be culled in a big game like this? Yeah, maybe. I’m poking her tho.

And what specifically about Kate is good to you?

[Golden]

Rondo going after mac is the towniest rondo has been all game.

[RondoDimBuckle]

Rondo going after mac is the towniest rondo has been all game.

Eh it comes in ebbs and flows. Just wait till Ender comes back and Memes at me some more about me being a wolf

[EnderWiggin]

Sloonei/SVS probably contains 1 wolf.

I agree with this.

Unrelated: You are my top contender for 3P

Unrelated:
Why does that matter.

Unrelated: When I was younger I had this grand idea to create a supplement that could make my farts smell flowery

That is actually unrelated.

Fair.

[RondoDimBuckle]

[VOTE: Mac ] aubergine lets see if you take the second option to shoot me

[DrWilgy]

Urist/Sig would be fine wagons today. Go forth my children.

What say you of SVS?

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[☆Princess Abigail☆]

I actually can't figure out why rask was chosen as the mafia kill, seemingly his only push was on cape, who flipped town. Perhaps the only other thing he said was that if cape flips town, golden should be shot.

Then could be a frame job on golden or perhaps he wasnt the night kill and someone is lying. But its a good point [VOTE: golden ] aubergine

If he isn’t the nk, who do you think is the most likely liar?

I have specifically said Mac is most likely a wolf atm but dennis is a weird factional kill.

Neon is unlikely to have 2 shots and could have shot Sabi for cred knowing she was going under and maybe she wanted to leave for other reasons and instead of subbing they kill her and then the night kill is on the town that Neon is claiming (I forget who) 2 shots is a bit much but that is self resolving when she flips tomorrow.

so TSP is the factional if it isnt Rask so gg I am a genius

I will hard claim this

I get 2 shots N1 and 2 and 1 shot afterwards.

[EnderWiggin]

I finished reading Sabi's ISO and will return with the fact that DrWilgy is even more confirmed than the confirmed confirmation of my confirmation.

Confirmed as what?

Towny "Townsville" McTownface

Csm you quote the posts?

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This sequence I found towny from Wilgy.

Then Sabi's reaction to me and other people townreading Wilgy makes me very confident I am right.

[☆Princess Abigail☆]

I actually can't figure out why rask was chosen as the mafia kill, seemingly his only push was on cape, who flipped town. Perhaps the only other thing he said was that if cape flips town, golden should be shot.

Then could be a frame job on golden or perhaps he wasnt the night kill and someone is lying. But its a good point [VOTE: golden ] aubergine

If he isn’t the nk, who do you think is the most likely liar?

I have specifically said Mac is most likely a wolf atm but dennis is a weird factional kill.

Neon is unlikely to have 2 shots and could have shot Sabi for cred knowing she was going under and maybe she wanted to leave for other reasons and instead of subbing they kill her and then the night kill is on the town that Neon is claiming (I forget who) 2 shots is a bit much but that is self resolving when she flips tomorrow.

so TSP is the factional if it isnt Rask so gg I am a genius

I will shoot the next person who says I TKd Sabi lol

[RondoDimBuckle]

I actually can't figure out why rask was chosen as the mafia kill, seemingly his only push was on cape, who flipped town. Perhaps the only other thing he said was that if cape flips town, golden should be shot.

Then could be a frame job on golden or perhaps he wasnt the night kill and someone is lying. But its a good point [VOTE: golden ] aubergine

If he isn’t the nk, who do you think is the most likely liar?

I have specifically said Mac is most likely a wolf atm but dennis is a weird factional kill.

Neon is unlikely to have 2 shots and could have shot Sabi for cred knowing she was going under and maybe she wanted to leave for other reasons and instead of subbing they kill her and then the night kill is on the town that Neon is claiming (I forget who) 2 shots is a bit much but that is self resolving when she flips tomorrow.

so TSP is the factional if it isnt Rask so gg I am a genius

I will hard claim this

I get 2 shots N1 and 2 and 1 shot afterwards.

I already said you would self resolve so there is no point thinking about it. It was just me exploring worlds where you are wolf

[Scotty]

Question for the crowd:

Does specifying “soup mafia” on a vanilla role imply two teams or not?

I thought about it and I don’t think so.

I’m operating under the assumption there’s only one.

The flavor of that role could literally be a meme. Or that sabi was the one responsible for the soup kill. But I could be wrong.

whats making me second guess is at the beginning of the night post nanook revealed alignments first and then roles, and sabi's alignment was "soup mafia" not just "mafia"

damn you could be right. Also a memey way of naming a mafia team.

I don’t think I like multiball.

Creature/Rondo would immediately jump into my suspicion if there’s multiple teams. Not on sabi’s team.

[EnderWiggin]

Someone explain to me why Michelle is town?

Towntold.

[☆Princess Abigail☆]

[VOTE: Seanzie] aubergine

literally no one has mentioned seanzie in all the random lists of names. it's a bad sign, tbh.

Google wins

[Scotty]

If we’re playing multiball, that changes the whole dynamic. Everyone picking apart sabi’s ISO doesn’t mean towncred, as mafia would want to hunt for other mafia teams too

There’s still lost wolves so I’m hesitant to do full townclears, more ‘wouldn’t elim without more info’

What makes you think there are lost wolves?

I thought you went to bed

[EnderWiggin]

lets play a game, who is more wolfy?
==============================
Urist, Golden - golden

Guillotine, Kate - Kate

Alison, RondoDimBuckle - Rondo

EnderWiggin, Creature - Creature

hollowkatt, Michelle, nutella - HK

Scotty, DrWilgy, Neon - Scotty

Weird random groupings, but I’ll do this.

Urist, Golden- Urist

Alison, Rondo- Alison

Ender, Creature- Ender

hk, Michelle, nutella- hk

Scotty, DrWilgy, Neon- me, actually lol

It wasnt random, it was the vote score at the time, everyone as they were voting and the lone voters top and bottom grouped together. Its likely one will know that the other is a wolf. Small difference checks for later in the game. Possibly garbage since not everyone is voting but we will see how it goes

It's literally the definition of pointless busywork because you have no rhyme or reason except likely low-relevance voting.

[Urist]

If I had a two shots tonight I'd shoot golden twice

[EnderWiggin]

Nutella said my reads list is pushing a wolf agenda:

Let's compare our poe list:

Mine:
Scummy:
Sig
Wilgz
Porscha
Dennis
HK
Guillo

Nutellas:
could vote d1
112 (just 0post null)
dennis (actually do not want to wagon here but fits more on this side of the divide)
ender
hk
iawy
lily (also prob not)
porscha
pyxxy (fence)
svs
sabi
scotty (fence)


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Yea I'm the one discrediting town people and pushing an agenda???

Make it. Make sense

Nutella probably lock town just on this.

Sabi's list:
Scummy:
Sig
Wilgz
Porscha
Dennis
hk
Guillo

Nutellas:
could vote d1
112 (just 0post null)
dennis (actually do not want to wagon here but fits more on this side of the divide)
ender
hk
iawy
lily (also prob not)
porscha
pyxxy (fence)
svs
sabi
scotty (fence)

Sabi is bold enough to put all town in her list? Yes, HK being the only overlap rule of 3? Possibly just a wolf

Sabi being mad that Nutella has more than 2 wolves in her POE? Likely.

Sabi trying to distance from another wolf? Probable as well.

Normally your churn of information has an angle and a point towards it.

This is just the wheel of slush churning out random nonsense that sounds good.

[☆Princess Abigail☆]

Someone explain to me why Michelle is town?

Towntold.

This does not help me

[Golden]

Question for the crowd:

Does specifying “soup mafia” on a vanilla role imply two teams or not?

I thought about it and I don’t think so.

I’m operating under the assumption there’s only one.

The flavor of that role could literally be a meme. Or that sabi was the one responsible for the soup kill. But I could be wrong.

whats making me second guess is at the beginning of the night post nanook revealed alignments first and then roles, and sabi's alignment was "soup mafia" not just "mafia"

damn you could be right. Also a memey way of naming a mafia team.

I don’t think I like multiball.

Creature/Rondo would immediately jump into my suspicion if there’s multiple teams. Not on sabi’s team.

I think it’s optimal to accept sabi-based townclears until/unless a second faction of mafia presents itself, though. I’d just be cautious to equate that with full trust

[Scotty]

If I had a two shots tonight I'd shoot golden twice

Urist, what do you think of me at this present moment?

[EnderWiggin]

I actually can't figure out why rask was chosen as the mafia kill, seemingly his only push was on cape, who flipped town. Perhaps the only other thing he said was that if cape flips town, golden should be shot.

Rask is very good at making towncores even if his susses are off.

If the wolves have people familiar with him and saw that a few people were townreading him hard they might be cutting that off.

Also may be killing off town members of the "D&D group"

(TALKING OF WHICH I AM MADE I DIDN'T GET THAT ROLE.)

[Urist]

If I had a two shots tonight I'd shoot golden twice

Urist, what do you think of me at this present moment?

Slightly scummy

[EnderWiggin]

Question for the crowd:

Does specifying “soup mafia” on a vanilla role imply two teams or not?

Tbh possibly yeah.

[EnderWiggin]

@MacDougall

Wilgy/Neon/Michelle/Nutella being a set of town players is probably my strongest read.

Since you were asking for that.

Nutella that townie?

Yes.

[Sloonei]

oh wait i see what you mean

like "the mafia that has soup" as an alignment in the flip

This was my kneejerk interpretation of sabi's flip.

[EnderWiggin]

[VOTE: Seanzie] aubergine

literally no one has mentioned seanzie in all the random lists of names. it's a bad sign, tbh.

This is actually a nice post, ANOTHER.

[Scotty]

I like Golden even putting out the feelers for a mafia multiball.

Just continuing my defense of his towny play yall

[EnderWiggin]

Rondo going after mac is the towniest rondo has been all game.

No.

[Sloonei]

If we’re playing multiball, that changes the whole dynamic. Everyone picking apart sabi’s ISO doesn’t mean towncred, as mafia would want to hunt for other mafia teams too

There’s still lost wolves so I’m hesitant to do full townclears, more ‘wouldn’t elim without more info’

What makes you think there are lost wolves?

If the group mafia team is eliminated, any lost mafia that may exist will inherit the factional kill and the tie break. If there are no lost mafia, it may be inherited by a third party, if they exist. There will be an announcement when any faction is completely eliminated from the game.

[Scotty]

oh wait i see what you mean

like "the mafia that has soup" as an alignment in the flip

This was my kneejerk interpretation of sabi's flip.

And yet you came out into D2 with ‘someone tell me who to vote’ instead of floating that idea..

[RondoDimBuckle]

Question for the crowd:

Does specifying “soup mafia” on a vanilla role imply two teams or not?

I thought about it and I don’t think so.

I’m operating under the assumption there’s only one.

The flavor of that role could literally be a meme. Or that sabi was the one responsible for the soup kill. But I could be wrong.

whats making me second guess is at the beginning of the night post nanook revealed alignments first and then roles, and sabi's alignment was "soup mafia" not just "mafia"

damn you could be right. Also a memey way of naming a mafia team.

I don’t think I like multiball.

Creature/Rondo would immediately jump into my suspicion if there’s multiple teams. Not on sabi’s team.

Can you explain this one to me like I am Rondo?

[Urist]

I actually can't figure out why rask was chosen as the mafia kill, seemingly his only push was on cape, who flipped town. Perhaps the only other thing he said was that if cape flips town, golden should be shot.

Rask is very good at making towncores even if his susses are off.

If the wolves have people familiar with him and saw that a few people were townreading him hard they might be cutting that off.

Also may be killing off town members of the "D&D group"

(TALKING OF WHICH I AM MADE I DIDN'T GET THAT ROLE.)

All good points, although if I were killing someone for their role, it wouldn't be a neighbor (unless he said something in the chat overnight, in which case I'd hope his neighbors would be looking into that).

[Scotty]

If we’re playing multiball, that changes the whole dynamic. Everyone picking apart sabi’s ISO doesn’t mean towncred, as mafia would want to hunt for other mafia teams too

There’s still lost wolves so I’m hesitant to do full townclears, more ‘wouldn’t elim without more info’

What makes you think there are lost wolves?

If the group mafia team is eliminated, any lost mafia that may exist will inherit the factional kill and the tie break. If there are no lost mafia, it may be inherited by a third party, if they exist. There will be an announcement when any faction is completely eliminated from the game.

With this wording, could it just be possible that the mafia team is just the soup mafia, and any lost mafia are.,,the other ‘team’?

Blech. I’m back to thinking it might just be one team in the know.

[EnderWiggin]

Someone explain to me why Michelle is town?

Towntold.

This does not help me

It's really hard for me to seriously explain this.

Michelle and I have played a few times and I have a history of finding her as town when she's town. (Obviously fakeable as mafia etc etc etc)

The process I use is literally down to "How I vibe with her solving" and I can't explain it more than that.

[Scotty]

Question for the crowd:

Does specifying “soup mafia” on a vanilla role imply two teams or not?

I thought about it and I don’t think so.

I’m operating under the assumption there’s only one.

The flavor of that role could literally be a meme. Or that sabi was the one responsible for the soup kill. But I could be wrong.

whats making me second guess is at the beginning of the night post nanook revealed alignments first and then roles, and sabi's alignment was "soup mafia" not just "mafia"

damn you could be right. Also a memey way of naming a mafia team.

I don’t think I like multiball.

Creature/Rondo would immediately jump into my suspicion if there’s multiple teams. Not on sabi’s team.

Can you explain this one to me like I am Rondo?

I’m recanting, but in this line of thought, players that are delving into sabi interactions (I was noticing it more with creature than you in the past several hours) could be power wolfing and legitimate hunting for a mafia team that isn’t their own.

[Sloonei]

oh wait i see what you mean

like "the mafia that has soup" as an alignment in the flip

This was my kneejerk interpretation of sabi's flip.

And yet you came out into D2 with ‘someone tell me who to vote’ instead of floating that idea..

False. Behold.

[Sloonei]

If we’re playing multiball, that changes the whole dynamic. Everyone picking apart sabi’s ISO doesn’t mean towncred, as mafia would want to hunt for other mafia teams too

There’s still lost wolves so I’m hesitant to do full townclears, more ‘wouldn’t elim without more info’

What makes you think there are lost wolves?

If the group mafia team is eliminated, any lost mafia that may exist will inherit the factional kill and the tie break. If there are no lost mafia, it may be inherited by a third party, if they exist. There will be an announcement when any faction is completely eliminated from the game.

With this wording, could it just be possible that the mafia team is just the soup mafia, and any lost mafia are.,,the other ‘team’?

Blech. I’m back to thinking it might just be one team in the know.

Yes. It can be two teams. But it can be one, too.

[Scotty]

oh wait i see what you mean

like "the mafia that has soup" as an alignment in the flip

This was my kneejerk interpretation of sabi's flip.

And yet you came out into D2 with ‘someone tell me who to vote’ instead of floating that idea..

False. Behold.

Touché, thanks for the cite

[MacDougall]

[VOTE: cape] aubergine

sorry mac im afraid if u'll shoot me i dont wanna die

this was pc unvoting me when i asked people to vote me so i could check them btw

specifically voted you to see if you would shoot me. I am trying to decide if wolf mac shoots me or not, leaning towards not

yeah wolf mac definitely always shoots the hyper threat dennis over a player that makes a point of trolling me in every game

Also I resent the disingenuous argument here. The flakk you would get for shooting me, high WIM high thread presence town leader vs dennis is not even comprable. Dennis is an easy kill of the people voting you BECAUSE he was in the sus pool. No one is blinking twice at it and the proof is in how little everyone is at your face about it. Jokes were made about it. I doubt it would be the same if you killed me

this logic is predicated on the notion that wolf mac has any requirement to actually claim the shot if i shot you, which he doesn't

[Michelle]

Y'all just playing decentralized gtg?

Gth*

no, rondo is playing "look busy while everyone else gives reads so he knows where the danger is"
but that's a surprise tool that can help us later.

who are my partners?

I've never been one to care about partners. I'm saying you're doing a lot of busywork while many others are supplying reads and talking about the game you're asking potshot questions that thus far don't appear to be going anywhere.

Should they appear to go somewhere I'll retract that statement. Till then I'm very comfortable making it and standing by it.

Thats fair, its going somewhere thats why I want you to ISO

In fact I want everyones opinion on Sloonie / Kate / SVS and Wilgy / Urist / Ender

Wh

[Golden]

I like Golden even putting out the feelers for a mafia multiball.

Just continuing my defense of his towny play yall

Lol I appreciate the approach you took was checking if Urist trusted you first. Good, futile, effort.

Urist will have to learn the hard way. But also his (public) thought processes about why I’m wolf can only come from someone who hasn’t played in a game where I’m wolf.