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But mostly I am townreading Scotty because he just has that Scotty vibe ya know. The way Sloonei explained it was very accurate. Like "hey I'm just Scotty going about my Scotty business, sorry not sorry". He's adorable tbh.
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How is it that it feels like you are completely aware of everything that's happened since you were here last?Alison wrote: ↑Mon Feb 20, 2023 3:50 amI think Guillo and you are both town. Guillo's push on you feels like the thing he does every game where he tries to headhunt a well known player for sketchy reasons and gets really confbiased and doubles down on it.MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Feb 20, 2023 3:49 am Lily and Neon are town. I'm just masoning them btw. Sloonei shielding me here is also obvious town for Sloonei he just never pockets me contextually there's no benefit in doing so. Urist shielding me the way he did before with humour is bleeding obvious town. My heroes. I think Party Crasher is probably not mafia now though, Syn pushing me felt like real. Rondo also feels like he has a real read on me. Guillo's read is bogus tho.
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owoParty Crasher wrote: ↑Mon Feb 20, 2023 3:38 amshut up mono blue abuserLilypetal wrote: ↑Mon Feb 20, 2023 3:37 amagreedMacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Feb 20, 2023 3:34 am This has been a really fun period of the game watching people argue about my alignment but I'd really just like you all to read interactions between Sabi and I and stop now cuz it's unnecessary.
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It's not silent, he said the killing curse from Harry Potter and pinged Nanook when he did it. If he is mafia with day KP he has to shoot someone who is town but doesn't out him on the spot.MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Feb 20, 2023 3:50 amI vibe deeply with Sloonei's read on Scotty btw. I also think the way he just popped Iawy no scope was very towny. Why would a wolf with KP (silent day KP) shoot a town in the POE instead of a strong town?Alison wrote: ↑Mon Feb 20, 2023 3:48 amThis is a tone read then basically?Sloonei wrote: ↑Mon Feb 20, 2023 3:44 am There's a certain calmness to his presence in this thread in the few moments we've crossed paths. Like there is nothing premeditated about any of the things he says or does, and he is just existing naturally in the game. I don't actually recall many reads he has given, but his posture feels authentic.
My take on Scotty is that he has done fuck all this game and IAWY scumread him. I don't hold the IAWY shot against him, I would have done it too if I had a dayvig, but I do think that IAWY has decent reads in general and is particularly likely to have good reads because he is a member of the POE (POE members tend to have better reads because they have a green check on themselves and so have slightly better perspective than everyone else in the thread). I am not to-the-death convinced that Scotty is scum, but I don't see what you do in his tone and his actual solving has been kinda nonexistent. This is enough to put him in the POE - coupled with IAWY's conviction that he's mafia, I'm happy to vote him out.
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Re: Game of Champions 2022 D2
I disagree with the pushes.RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Mon Feb 20, 2023 3:03 amYour opinion on the Mac situation?Michelle wrote: ↑Mon Feb 20, 2023 3:00 amWhy exactly do you scum read Mac?Urist wrote: ↑Mon Feb 20, 2023 2:42 am Imagine you're mac, and a wolf. You come into the thread and say you just got major surgery. The town is fucking itself in 69 different ways, and nobody is looking at you. Instead of just laying low and posting a few reads, you go into hyperposting mode and spend your entire day going through ISOs trying to find someone to frame. Unfortunately, you have forgotten that Almighty Town Leader RondoDimBuckle is online and on the lookout for scum fucks like yourself. You are immediately caught and lose the game for your team. How embarrassing.
I don't want to pressure Mac now. He self resolves and pushing him when he says he hasn't eat for days is low sportsmanship
Also as long as he has town!Mac vibes, the probability for him to be town is bigger.
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Re: Game of Champions 2022 D2
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No, it's silent. He later claimed he didn't have to do that and only did it for style points cuz he thought it was a good shot.Alison wrote: ↑Mon Feb 20, 2023 3:52 amIt's not silent, he said the killing curse from Harry Potter and pinged Nanook when he did it. If he is mafia with day KP he has to shoot someone who is town but doesn't out him on the spot.MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Feb 20, 2023 3:50 amI vibe deeply with Sloonei's read on Scotty btw. I also think the way he just popped Iawy no scope was very towny. Why would a wolf with KP (silent day KP) shoot a town in the POE instead of a strong town?Alison wrote: ↑Mon Feb 20, 2023 3:48 amThis is a tone read then basically?Sloonei wrote: ↑Mon Feb 20, 2023 3:44 am There's a certain calmness to his presence in this thread in the few moments we've crossed paths. Like there is nothing premeditated about any of the things he says or does, and he is just existing naturally in the game. I don't actually recall many reads he has given, but his posture feels authentic.
My take on Scotty is that he has done fuck all this game and IAWY scumread him. I don't hold the IAWY shot against him, I would have done it too if I had a dayvig, but I do think that IAWY has decent reads in general and is particularly likely to have good reads because he is a member of the POE (POE members tend to have better reads because they have a green check on themselves and so have slightly better perspective than everyone else in the thread). I am not to-the-death convinced that Scotty is scum, but I don't see what you do in his tone and his actual solving has been kinda nonexistent. This is enough to put him in the POE - coupled with IAWY's conviction that he's mafia, I'm happy to vote him out.
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Re: Game of Champions 2022 D2
Could it be that I stated I was reading up from where I was here last and now I have finished my catchup?MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Feb 20, 2023 3:52 amHow is it that it feels like you are completely aware of everything that's happened since you were here last?Alison wrote: ↑Mon Feb 20, 2023 3:50 amI think Guillo and you are both town. Guillo's push on you feels like the thing he does every game where he tries to headhunt a well known player for sketchy reasons and gets really confbiased and doubles down on it.MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Feb 20, 2023 3:49 am Lily and Neon are town. I'm just masoning them btw. Sloonei shielding me here is also obvious town for Sloonei he just never pockets me contextually there's no benefit in doing so. Urist shielding me the way he did before with humour is bleeding obvious town. My heroes. I think Party Crasher is probably not mafia now though, Syn pushing me felt like real. Rondo also feels like he has a real read on me. Guillo's read is bogus tho.
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I narrowed it down a bit cuz i dont care about pushing the names I removed anymore.MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Feb 20, 2023 3:52 am@Alison sans yourselfMacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Feb 20, 2023 2:09 am112
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Well no cuz you'd have seen Scotty say that he didn't have to use the Harry Potter wordsAlison wrote: ↑Mon Feb 20, 2023 3:53 amCould it be that I stated I was reading up from where I was here last and now I have finished my catchup?MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Feb 20, 2023 3:52 amHow is it that it feels like you are completely aware of everything that's happened since you were here last?Alison wrote: ↑Mon Feb 20, 2023 3:50 amI think Guillo and you are both town. Guillo's push on you feels like the thing he does every game where he tries to headhunt a well known player for sketchy reasons and gets really confbiased and doubles down on it.MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Feb 20, 2023 3:49 am Lily and Neon are town. I'm just masoning them btw. Sloonei shielding me here is also obvious town for Sloonei he just never pockets me contextually there's no benefit in doing so. Urist shielding me the way he did before with humour is bleeding obvious town. My heroes. I think Party Crasher is probably not mafia now though, Syn pushing me felt like real. Rondo also feels like he has a real read on me. Guillo's read is bogus tho.
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Do we have a way to confirm this is true?MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Feb 20, 2023 3:53 amNo, it's silent. He later claimed he didn't have to do that and only did it for style points cuz he thought it was a good shot.Alison wrote: ↑Mon Feb 20, 2023 3:52 amIt's not silent, he said the killing curse from Harry Potter and pinged Nanook when he did it. If he is mafia with day KP he has to shoot someone who is town but doesn't out him on the spot.MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Feb 20, 2023 3:50 amI vibe deeply with Sloonei's read on Scotty btw. I also think the way he just popped Iawy no scope was very towny. Why would a wolf with KP (silent day KP) shoot a town in the POE instead of a strong town?Alison wrote: ↑Mon Feb 20, 2023 3:48 amThis is a tone read then basically?Sloonei wrote: ↑Mon Feb 20, 2023 3:44 am There's a certain calmness to his presence in this thread in the few moments we've crossed paths. Like there is nothing premeditated about any of the things he says or does, and he is just existing naturally in the game. I don't actually recall many reads he has given, but his posture feels authentic.
My take on Scotty is that he has done fuck all this game and IAWY scumread him. I don't hold the IAWY shot against him, I would have done it too if I had a dayvig, but I do think that IAWY has decent reads in general and is particularly likely to have good reads because he is a member of the POE (POE members tend to have better reads because they have a green check on themselves and so have slightly better perspective than everyone else in the thread). I am not to-the-death convinced that Scotty is scum, but I don't see what you do in his tone and his actual solving has been kinda nonexistent. This is enough to put him in the POE - coupled with IAWY's conviction that he's mafia, I'm happy to vote him out.
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Re: Game of Champions 2022 D2
I townread mac, that post was just me pointing out how ridiculous I think the scum reads on mac areMichelle wrote: ↑Mon Feb 20, 2023 3:52 amI disagree with the pushes.RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Mon Feb 20, 2023 3:03 amYour opinion on the Mac situation?Michelle wrote: ↑Mon Feb 20, 2023 3:00 amWhy exactly do you scum read Mac?Urist wrote: ↑Mon Feb 20, 2023 2:42 am Imagine you're mac, and a wolf. You come into the thread and say you just got major surgery. The town is fucking itself in 69 different ways, and nobody is looking at you. Instead of just laying low and posting a few reads, you go into hyperposting mode and spend your entire day going through ISOs trying to find someone to frame. Unfortunately, you have forgotten that Almighty Town Leader RondoDimBuckle is online and on the lookout for scum fucks like yourself. You are immediately caught and lose the game for your team. How embarrassing.
I don't want to pressure Mac now. He self resolves and pushing him when he says he hasn't eat for days is low sportsmanship
Also as long as he has town!Mac vibes, the probability for him to be town is bigger.
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Re: Game of Champions 2022 D2
Neon with me-levels of white knighting here.Neon wrote: ↑Mon Feb 20, 2023 3:48 amCool. So it's NAI and you are using it a if you have caught someone you haven't.Party Crasher wrote: ↑Mon Feb 20, 2023 3:18 amand he does it as a wolfNeon wrote: ↑Mon Feb 20, 2023 3:17 amHe does this as town. I've seen it multiple times. This is not a reliable read.Party Crasher wrote: ↑Mon Feb 20, 2023 3:15 amhe's doing that thing where the moment there's pressure from more than one person on him that he unloads a large amount of aggression, appeals to emotion, and starts talking about how he's just trying to be a good villager and everyone else is making that too hard for him, and they just need to give him space, and if they don't, they're bad at the game, etc etc etcAlison wrote: ↑Mon Feb 20, 2023 3:10 amWhy is Mac wolfing
I haven't caught up yet so brief summary or quote of the more damning posts would be appreciated
and I've seen him do it exactly like this, right now... when he was wolfing
Someone who helped me find Sabi wolf yesterday giving me a wolf kill
Someone who is trying to solve which you are not.
Someone who is reevaling the thread and reading back and trying to get town to actually work together and find a consensus
Mac is the towniest person here you will not mislynch him
If Neon isn't town I'll go back to the hat closet that is still full of hats.
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I clearly either missed that post or that detail in the post he claimed itMacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Feb 20, 2023 3:54 amWell no cuz you'd have seen Scotty say that he didn't have to use the Harry Potter wordsAlison wrote: ↑Mon Feb 20, 2023 3:53 amCould it be that I stated I was reading up from where I was here last and now I have finished my catchup?MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Feb 20, 2023 3:52 amHow is it that it feels like you are completely aware of everything that's happened since you were here last?Alison wrote: ↑Mon Feb 20, 2023 3:50 amI think Guillo and you are both town. Guillo's push on you feels like the thing he does every game where he tries to headhunt a well known player for sketchy reasons and gets really confbiased and doubles down on it.MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Feb 20, 2023 3:49 am Lily and Neon are town. I'm just masoning them btw. Sloonei shielding me here is also obvious town for Sloonei he just never pockets me contextually there's no benefit in doing so. Urist shielding me the way he did before with humour is bleeding obvious town. My heroes. I think Party Crasher is probably not mafia now though, Syn pushing me felt like real. Rondo also feels like he has a real read on me. Guillo's read is bogus tho.
Like you yourself misread iawy's claim
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Yeah it's called leaving Scotty alive til tomorrow and letting him silent shoot someone lol.Alison wrote: ↑Mon Feb 20, 2023 3:54 amDo we have a way to confirm this is true?MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Feb 20, 2023 3:53 amNo, it's silent. He later claimed he didn't have to do that and only did it for style points cuz he thought it was a good shot.Alison wrote: ↑Mon Feb 20, 2023 3:52 amIt's not silent, he said the killing curse from Harry Potter and pinged Nanook when he did it. If he is mafia with day KP he has to shoot someone who is town but doesn't out him on the spot.MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Feb 20, 2023 3:50 amI vibe deeply with Sloonei's read on Scotty btw. I also think the way he just popped Iawy no scope was very towny. Why would a wolf with KP (silent day KP) shoot a town in the POE instead of a strong town?Alison wrote: ↑Mon Feb 20, 2023 3:48 amThis is a tone read then basically?Sloonei wrote: ↑Mon Feb 20, 2023 3:44 am There's a certain calmness to his presence in this thread in the few moments we've crossed paths. Like there is nothing premeditated about any of the things he says or does, and he is just existing naturally in the game. I don't actually recall many reads he has given, but his posture feels authentic.
My take on Scotty is that he has done fuck all this game and IAWY scumread him. I don't hold the IAWY shot against him, I would have done it too if I had a dayvig, but I do think that IAWY has decent reads in general and is particularly likely to have good reads because he is a member of the POE (POE members tend to have better reads because they have a green check on themselves and so have slightly better perspective than everyone else in the thread). I am not to-the-death convinced that Scotty is scum, but I don't see what you do in his tone and his actual solving has been kinda nonexistent. This is enough to put him in the POE - coupled with IAWY's conviction that he's mafia, I'm happy to vote him out.
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Re: Game of Champions 2022 D2
People who know Guillo better than me read town. I, not knowing Guillo at all, can't form a read based on knowledge, and I just see the behaviour as wolfy on the facts.
Michelle has asked me to give Guillo more time. Guillo has expressed disengagement. Do you know Guillo much? Give me your takes on meta.
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I never misread his claim. I just partly didn't believe it and partly realised that it didn't matter contextually because he still targeted me with a role that allowed him to lover me today.Alison wrote: ↑Mon Feb 20, 2023 3:56 amI clearly either missed that post or that detail in the post he claimed itMacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Feb 20, 2023 3:54 amWell no cuz you'd have seen Scotty say that he didn't have to use the Harry Potter wordsAlison wrote: ↑Mon Feb 20, 2023 3:53 amCould it be that I stated I was reading up from where I was here last and now I have finished my catchup?MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Feb 20, 2023 3:52 amHow is it that it feels like you are completely aware of everything that's happened since you were here last?Alison wrote: ↑Mon Feb 20, 2023 3:50 amI think Guillo and you are both town. Guillo's push on you feels like the thing he does every game where he tries to headhunt a well known player for sketchy reasons and gets really confbiased and doubles down on it.MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Feb 20, 2023 3:49 am Lily and Neon are town. I'm just masoning them btw. Sloonei shielding me here is also obvious town for Sloonei he just never pockets me contextually there's no benefit in doing so. Urist shielding me the way he did before with humour is bleeding obvious town. My heroes. I think Party Crasher is probably not mafia now though, Syn pushing me felt like real. Rondo also feels like he has a real read on me. Guillo's read is bogus tho.
Like you yourself misread iawy's claim
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Yes I am pretty familiar with Guillo and am not often wrong on him but being forced to read him in this context is different to how I am usually able to get a read on him. I just think that his tunneling me is a tactic he's using to try to keep me in check honestly. And I also thought the interaction between him and Rondo was fucking strange.Golden wrote: ↑Mon Feb 20, 2023 3:58 amPeople who know Guillo better than me read town. I, not knowing Guillo at all, can't form a read based on knowledge, and I just see the behaviour as wolfy on the facts.
Michelle has asked me to give Guillo more time. Guillo has expressed disengagement. Do you know Guillo much? Give me your takes on meta.
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I agree with nutella's take that she is a TMI machine as mafia and she has displayed no sign of it this game. Her push on me while annoying is in line with the weathervane "latch onto a read someone else makes and then get 0-100 convinced of it really abruptly" sort of posting she usually does while town and I sort of think she'd be more visibly uncomfortable in a thread where the loudest voices are names like Alison, Mac and Sloonei.MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Feb 20, 2023 3:54 amI narrowed it down a bit cuz i dont care about pushing the names I removed anymore.MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Feb 20, 2023 3:52 am@Alison sans yourselfMacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Feb 20, 2023 2:09 am112
Dyslexicon
Guillotine
Kate
Nutella
S~V~S
Seanzie
Which of these are town in a way that can persuade me?
I have explained why I think Guillo's push on you is townie for him for meta reasons.
The rest can all die, I don't care.
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marmot obv mafia
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oh fair I assumed he was one-shot like meMacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Feb 20, 2023 3:57 amYeah it's called leaving Scotty alive til tomorrow and letting him silent shoot someone lol.Alison wrote: ↑Mon Feb 20, 2023 3:54 amDo we have a way to confirm this is true?MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Feb 20, 2023 3:53 amNo, it's silent. He later claimed he didn't have to do that and only did it for style points cuz he thought it was a good shot.Alison wrote: ↑Mon Feb 20, 2023 3:52 amIt's not silent, he said the killing curse from Harry Potter and pinged Nanook when he did it. If he is mafia with day KP he has to shoot someone who is town but doesn't out him on the spot.MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Feb 20, 2023 3:50 amI vibe deeply with Sloonei's read on Scotty btw. I also think the way he just popped Iawy no scope was very towny. Why would a wolf with KP (silent day KP) shoot a town in the POE instead of a strong town?Alison wrote: ↑Mon Feb 20, 2023 3:48 amThis is a tone read then basically?Sloonei wrote: ↑Mon Feb 20, 2023 3:44 am There's a certain calmness to his presence in this thread in the few moments we've crossed paths. Like there is nothing premeditated about any of the things he says or does, and he is just existing naturally in the game. I don't actually recall many reads he has given, but his posture feels authentic.
My take on Scotty is that he has done fuck all this game and IAWY scumread him. I don't hold the IAWY shot against him, I would have done it too if I had a dayvig, but I do think that IAWY has decent reads in general and is particularly likely to have good reads because he is a member of the POE (POE members tend to have better reads because they have a green check on themselves and so have slightly better perspective than everyone else in the thread). I am not to-the-death convinced that Scotty is scum, but I don't see what you do in his tone and his actual solving has been kinda nonexistent. This is enough to put him in the POE - coupled with IAWY's conviction that he's mafia, I'm happy to vote him out.
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112
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I took Alison's two townreads out and removed Kate for Golden.
Why are the above four town? Anyone may interject.
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Why are the above four town? Anyone may interject.
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Re: Game of Champions 2022 D2
i actually don't know if he can now that you mention itAlison wrote: ↑Mon Feb 20, 2023 4:01 amoh fair I assumed he was one-shot like meMacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Feb 20, 2023 3:57 amYeah it's called leaving Scotty alive til tomorrow and letting him silent shoot someone lol.Alison wrote: ↑Mon Feb 20, 2023 3:54 amDo we have a way to confirm this is true?MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Feb 20, 2023 3:53 amNo, it's silent. He later claimed he didn't have to do that and only did it for style points cuz he thought it was a good shot.Alison wrote: ↑Mon Feb 20, 2023 3:52 amIt's not silent, he said the killing curse from Harry Potter and pinged Nanook when he did it. If he is mafia with day KP he has to shoot someone who is town but doesn't out him on the spot.MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Feb 20, 2023 3:50 amI vibe deeply with Sloonei's read on Scotty btw. I also think the way he just popped Iawy no scope was very towny. Why would a wolf with KP (silent day KP) shoot a town in the POE instead of a strong town?Alison wrote: ↑Mon Feb 20, 2023 3:48 am
This is a tone read then basically?
My take on Scotty is that he has done fuck all this game and IAWY scumread him. I don't hold the IAWY shot against him, I would have done it too if I had a dayvig, but I do think that IAWY has decent reads in general and is particularly likely to have good reads because he is a member of the POE (POE members tend to have better reads because they have a green check on themselves and so have slightly better perspective than everyone else in the thread). I am not to-the-death convinced that Scotty is scum, but I don't see what you do in his tone and his actual solving has been kinda nonexistent. This is enough to put him in the POE - coupled with IAWY's conviction that he's mafia, I'm happy to vote him out.
if he's claiming multiple shots then I'll vote someone else
@Scotty ?
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Re: Game of Champions 2022 D2
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There's nothing that says a fake can't surpass the real thing.
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Re: Game of Champions 2022 D2
"keep you in check" like "get a clear read" or "stop your towning" or ambiguous?MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Feb 20, 2023 3:59 amYes I am pretty familiar with Guillo and am not often wrong on him but being forced to read him in this context is different to how I am usually able to get a read on him. I just think that his tunneling me is a tactic he's using to try to keep me in check honestly. And I also thought the interaction between him and Rondo was fucking strange.Golden wrote: ↑Mon Feb 20, 2023 3:58 amPeople who know Guillo better than me read town. I, not knowing Guillo at all, can't form a read based on knowledge, and I just see the behaviour as wolfy on the facts.
Michelle has asked me to give Guillo more time. Guillo has expressed disengagement. Do you know Guillo much? Give me your takes on meta.
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Re: Game of Champions 2022 D2
112's ISO is probably at best described as irredeemable and forever POE but I do kinda like that they townread @hollowkatt early cuz I did too.
But I doubt that's gonna be a good look for anyone else.
Anyway 112 hard POE.
But I doubt that's gonna be a good look for anyone else.
Anyway 112 hard POE.
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Re: Game of Champions 2022 D2
disrupt my process, stop my towning more or less... he already showed his hand earlier with the fake counterclaim gambit and then dropped that, and then out of nowhere just started arbitrarily tunneling me again and pleading to a godread that doesn't exist, i cannot give him town points for it.Golden wrote: ↑Mon Feb 20, 2023 4:03 am"keep you in check" like "get a clear read" or "stop your towning" or ambiguous?MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Feb 20, 2023 3:59 amYes I am pretty familiar with Guillo and am not often wrong on him but being forced to read him in this context is different to how I am usually able to get a read on him. I just think that his tunneling me is a tactic he's using to try to keep me in check honestly. And I also thought the interaction between him and Rondo was fucking strange.Golden wrote: ↑Mon Feb 20, 2023 3:58 amPeople who know Guillo better than me read town. I, not knowing Guillo at all, can't form a read based on knowledge, and I just see the behaviour as wolfy on the facts.
Michelle has asked me to give Guillo more time. Guillo has expressed disengagement. Do you know Guillo much? Give me your takes on meta.
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Re: Game of Champions 2022 D2
I could vote for any of them. From most likely to vote to least likely, right now:MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Feb 20, 2023 4:01 am 112
Dyslexicon
S~V~S
Seanzie
I took Alison's two townreads out and removed Kate for Golden.
Why are the above four town? Anyone may interject.
112 > SVS > Dizzy > Seanzie
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Re: Game of Champions 2022 D1
Urist comes off exceedingly townie here where the other two ... do not.S~V~S wrote: ↑Fri Feb 17, 2023 6:45 amDefending her from what? I haven’t gotten to the point where/if any of this rolls back, but you seem to be aggressively making Mt Gigantico out of Mt Molehill.Urist wrote: ↑Thu Feb 16, 2023 11:53 pmI'm not characterizing anything, you are literally defending Kate.Golden wrote: ↑Thu Feb 16, 2023 11:51 pmIt’s not semantic shit. The same event can be characterised in different ways, the choice of how you characterise it is meaningful.
If you rolled back on this, and I haven’t got there yet, sorry, but town reading isn’t the same as defending. There is some misplaced aggression here.
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Re: Game of Champions 2022 D2
I kinda vibed with Dizzy's posting on D1 but then he vanished and never reappeared again so I don't care to take him out of Mac's suggested POE. Seanzie is someone that I should be confidently townreading by now, but I'm not, which isn't a great sign (that + "Mac who I townread" and "Sloonei who is townsiding if he's mafia given I agree with most of his takes" being his wagon were the reasons I voted him). 112 has done nothing except naked vote me for no reason and SVS has done nothing at all.
If this is our POE I am completely fine with it.
If this is our POE I am completely fine with it.
There's nothing that says a fake can't surpass the real thing.
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Re: Game of Champions 2022 D1
the progression here makes no sense to me... far too generous a read, and SVS's motivation here is far more likely to be defensive towards Kate than anything resembling town solving imoS~V~S wrote: ↑Fri Feb 17, 2023 8:01 am OK, this Golden/Kate this is freaking me a bit on more than one level.
First, tons of people are making reads for no reason and no one is questioning it, or asking for reasons. All the jumping on a read of old friends seems sooo opportunistic to me.
Second, neither Kate nor Golden have asked me for my opinion, and they both know that while my opinion may be shit on a lot of things, I read Kate pretty well.
I threw her a ball, and she ignored it.
So I was not sure she wasn't bad, since I also think she might have tried to avoid me when she's bad (although it's been so long since i can recall the last game where she was bad and I was town; 10 years ago, maybe?).
But her reaction to all of this pretty clearly puts her town for me. She doesn't seem to be spending alot of time worrying about how she sounds. Maybe she's salty for some other reason, or maybe I'm not as all that as I think.
@Neon , @Lilypetal are you two from the same home forum? You seem to have some simpatico, and that could give weight to your readings of each other.
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Re: Game of Champions 2022 D1
SVS backing me up on this did ping me, actually. Especially so much later than it happening.MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Feb 20, 2023 4:06 amUrist comes off exceedingly townie here where the other two ... do not.S~V~S wrote: ↑Fri Feb 17, 2023 6:45 amDefending her from what? I haven’t gotten to the point where/if any of this rolls back, but you seem to be aggressively making Mt Gigantico out of Mt Molehill.Urist wrote: ↑Thu Feb 16, 2023 11:53 pmI'm not characterizing anything, you are literally defending Kate.Golden wrote: ↑Thu Feb 16, 2023 11:51 pmIt’s not semantic shit. The same event can be characterised in different ways, the choice of how you characterise it is meaningful.
If you rolled back on this, and I haven’t got there yet, sorry, but town reading isn’t the same as defending. There is some misplaced aggression here.
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Re: Game of Champions 2022 D2
at any rate SVS and Golden have spewed Kate town imo regardless of either of their alignments
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Re: Game of Champions 2022 D2
i actually like dizzy's ISO at a glance, I don't think it's a wolf ISO
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Re: Game of Champions 2022 D2
I also quite like Seanzie's ISO and I wouldn't POE him either.
So of the four I'd say 112/SVS are far worse than Seanzie/Dizzy.
So of the four I'd say 112/SVS are far worse than Seanzie/Dizzy.
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Re: Game of Champions 2022 D2
Dizzy vanishing is NAIAlison wrote: ↑Mon Feb 20, 2023 4:07 am I kinda vibed with Dizzy's posting on D1 but then he vanished and never reappeared again so I don't care to take him out of Mac's suggested POE. Seanzie is someone that I should be confidently townreading by now, but I'm not, which isn't a great sign (that + "Mac who I townread" and "Sloonei who is townsiding if he's mafia given I agree with most of his takes" being his wagon were the reasons I voted him). 112 has done nothing except naked vote me for no reason and SVS has done nothing at all.
If this is our POE I am completely fine with it.
Also i am working, coming back late
AMA
And @ulrist answer me pls
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Re: Game of Champions 2022 D2
so this is a good look for Golden in the context too especially cuz im giving seanzie points mostly cuz of how aggressively he pushed alison and golden lolGolden wrote: ↑Mon Feb 20, 2023 4:05 amI could vote for any of them. From most likely to vote to least likely, right now:MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Feb 20, 2023 4:01 am 112
Dyslexicon
S~V~S
Seanzie
I took Alison's two townreads out and removed Kate for Golden.
Why are the above four town? Anyone may interject.
112 > SVS > Dizzy > Seanzie
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Re: Game of Champions 2022 D2
falcon
golden
kate
mac
neon
nutella
lily
112
dizzy
michelle
ender
hkatt
porscha
svs
scotty
seanzie
sig
ursit
alison
creature
wilgy
marmot
radish
rondo
sloonei
-t
if u want explanations ping syn
golden
kate
mac
neon
nutella
lily
112
dizzy
michelle
ender
hkatt
porscha
svs
scotty
seanzie
sig
ursit
alison
creature
wilgy
marmot
radish
rondo
sloonei
-t
if u want explanations ping syn
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Re: Game of Champions 2022 D2
Okay the next four I'd like to talk to ppl about are this four. Anyone wanna go the hard vouch?
hollowkatt
Marmot
master radishes
sig
hollowkatt
Marmot
master radishes
sig
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Re: Game of Champions 2022 D2
Why is 112 and Dizzy second top townreadParty Crasher wrote: ↑Mon Feb 20, 2023 4:13 am falcon
golden
kate
mac
neon
nutella
lily
112
dizzy
michelle
ender
hkatt
porscha
svs
scotty
seanzie
sig
ursit
alison
creature
wilgy
marmot
radish
rondo
sloonei
-t
if u want explanations ping syn
Why does mafia Sloonei pop out of nowhere to hard defend Mac when he could have sat back and watch Mac get bullied? Like sure pocketing exists but I don't think that Mac is the person that scum Sloonei most wants to pocket in that scenario, and TMI exists but he didn't have to TMI Mac he could have just continued afking or given other reads.
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Re: Game of Champions 2022 D2
@SynAlison wrote: ↑Mon Feb 20, 2023 4:16 amWhy is 112 and Dizzy second top townreadParty Crasher wrote: ↑Mon Feb 20, 2023 4:13 am falcon
golden
kate
mac
neon
nutella
lily
112
dizzy
michelle
ender
hkatt
porscha
svs
scotty
seanzie
sig
ursit
alison
creature
wilgy
marmot
radish
rondo
sloonei
-t
if u want explanations ping syn
Why does mafia Sloonei pop out of nowhere to hard defend Mac when he could have sat back and watch Mac get bullied? Like sure pocketing exists but I don't think that Mac is the person that scum Sloonei most wants to pocket in that scenario, and TMI exists but he didn't have to TMI Mac he could have just continued afking or given other reads.
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Re: Game of Champions 2022 D2
I wouldn't bet my house on sig being town, but I'd put him as the least likely person I'd vote in these 4 since I felt he seemed lonely in a townie way D1. In addition he is another player that I habitually scumread as either alignment so the fact that I haven't felt a desire to murder him here means he is playing townier than usual.MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Feb 20, 2023 4:15 am Okay the next four I'd like to talk to ppl about are this four. Anyone wanna go the hard vouch?
hollowkatt
Marmot
master radishes
sig
No points of townieness for the rest.
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Re: Game of Champions 2022 D2
hollowkatt
Marmot
master radishes
sig
112
Guillotine
S~V~S
I am acutely aware that there are town in the above list (especially the upper tier), but the more I close the POE and lift the bar for what I am townreading people for, these are the names I am left with. I personally townread Hollowkatt, Radishes and Sig but none of them are for really good reasons.
I am quite confident that several mafia reside in the list above, and I know for a fact that there are at least 1 or 2 outside of it cuz it's too slanky of a list to be all of them. But I am not deepwolf hunting.
Marmot
master radishes
sig
112
Guillotine
S~V~S
I am acutely aware that there are town in the above list (especially the upper tier), but the more I close the POE and lift the bar for what I am townreading people for, these are the names I am left with. I personally townread Hollowkatt, Radishes and Sig but none of them are for really good reasons.
I am quite confident that several mafia reside in the list above, and I know for a fact that there are at least 1 or 2 outside of it cuz it's too slanky of a list to be all of them. But I am not deepwolf hunting.
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Re: Game of Champions 2022 D2
Nutella had Marmot near lock town on day 1 so that's the main thing giving me pause on Marmot. I actually personally wolfread him and just tactically deferred to her read cuz the wagons were already well set and it served no purpose saying anything about that read at the time.