Game of Champions 2022 mafia win lol

[nutella]

OK my vote is stale and hk can be dealt with later so I'm moving to iawy since I don't like the Dennis and Cape wagons at all.

Dennis is the only of the three who has struck me as slightly wolfy, but I am interested in a fourth option if one could be found and agreed upon.

Who are your options for a 4th

I just shifted my vote back to [VOTE: guillotine] aubergine so that's one. That he pushed the 'golden's town read of kate doesn't make sense' and actively said 'I'll solve this game when it's bigger' means he falls into both the categories of 'easy wolfy things' that I have engaged in.

Not sure why Urist gets so many town reads.

112, TSP and MR all fall into a 'haven't seen town hunting' but I don't know any of them well and it feels like others suggest this might be NAI?

That'd be my top 5 atm.

I'm fine with Guillotine or MR in that list.

Idk I think 112 and Tsp can be sorted out via night actions

May I offer ilario?

possibly good look for MR and bad for 112?

[VOTE: 112] aubergine

Sure

[Master Radishes]

Why did I sign up again?

[nutella]

i think clearing creature/seanzie off that one post sabi made about them is most likely correct then

sabi was very blatantly trying to set them up to look bad when dennis flipped town

Yeah

Think they've both been townish independently anyway

[nutella]

I've moved on from the alison foil in case that isn't clear by now lol

[nutella]

particularly her point that neon also should have been blocked is worth something

[Party Crasher]

I've moved on from the alison foil in case that isn't clear by now lol

pls put me in a foil and bake me like a tasty cakey

[Master Radishes]

I actually wanted to come into D2, if alive, ready to play properly for once. That has not happened.

[Dyslexicon]

Hi gays! I'm going to try and catch up, but like quickly-ish. Summaries and recommendations are also appreciated.

[nutella]

well i think sabi is actually implying her poe has wolves in it for a start in the way she's demonstrating that it's a better POE than Nutella's... it's the sort of post a wolf makes when they are townsiding

1 in sig wilgy guillo?

[nutella]

GN Neon.

ALso Sabi/Marmot ww confirmed

I'd call this the dream team, except no wolf team with me on it would ever be considered a dream team.

Spoiler: show

But it's my dream team

pretty interesting post given rask is the likely mafia nk too

Mmmm

[nutella]

Marmot has about 3 times as many posts as me, and about half as much content, so far.

[VOTE: scotty] aubergine

Was this a serious vote?

First

First person to post is always mafia, and said marmot said first it means he was first ergo marmot is mafia

The second person to say second is also always mafia.

Why are you voting me praytell

For not knowing what a marmot is.

Guess not.

Guillo is kinda wolfy like in the Anni g2 game :3

Anni? What anni?

The game where you died Day 1 as wolf last October (although I can't remember if you were chopped or killed via by a 3P)

I don't remember how you played in that game tbh.

This feels a little cozy to me. I have no sense of Guilliotine so far, never played with him.

They voted Sabi early, then made several @ posts at them, but I haven't seen that Sabi replied to them. Distancing vote?

ilario has zero on-topic content. Kill him.

Mindmeld. Also Sabi is mafia. get them.

You right.

[VOTE: Sabi] aubergine

Yet while their vote is still on Sabi, they posted this:

Guillo null
Neon slight v
lucy slight v
sig v
Sabi null
Creature slight w
Rask slight v


Here are some reads I have from the last page or so because I refuse to backread further.

Then about half an hour later, posted this:

Somebody tell me who to vote for.

Hmmm.

I don't see Hmmm in the poll.

Regardless, my lily vote has not given me any feelz, so I think I'mma move back to Nutella. Maybe.

Vote me. There's 1600 posts and nobody has voted me it's scaring me.

[VOTE: Neon] aubergine

Not sure if this vote was even serious tbh.

All righty, I guess not, becasue she thanked them for the vote, they uwu'ed her and then:

Neon's my strongest townread atm. She's the top poster, and a large amount of it is fluff yes, but she does seem to be naturally responding with game takes amidst her shitposting, and I think that combination of content is pretty townie.

It's also a drastic change from Holes Mafia, where she had trouble pushing other players in the game when she tried (namely me)

I agree with Marmot here, I think she is playing nothing like Holes, which is a good look for her. But marmot is playing nothing like Holes either, which is a not so good look for them.

Again, not sure if he's mostly joking, or intentionally trying to be all over the place so they can fall back on "obvs shitposting" defense. Earlier I had said I had no sense of anything Marmot has said, and i still don't. Will finish up after work.

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About halfway through this read and I gotta go get ready for work. As always, i will try to keep read up, but not sure how much posting, Accountants are coming today and they annoyingly expect you to not fiddle on the phone when they're there. Hasta la vista, honies!

Bleh yeah that sabi-neon progression looks awful

I was prob pocketed by marmot putting effort into the cape stuff and their activity at eod, but with the cape and sabi flips they do look a lot worse and I was def underestimating their scum range

[falcon45ca]

ehhhh

dial down all the sabi spew analysis I made by like 50%

I think they're still broadly valid but if sabi knew neon had a gun pointed at their head they'd be watching their words and might even be in anti spew mode

Hmmmmmm...




Going thru Alison's ISO, I saw that she gave a lot of weight to Sabi's spew, w/o considering any anti-spew. Then she has this epiphany...it's a reasonable take, but then I have to ask myself "How often does Alison back off a tunnel so easily & readily?"

[nutella]

Damn I got distracted with work (how dare I’m forced to work on a work day) and I lost my post.

I’ve got pretty solid civ reads on: Golden, Allison, Nutella & Lucy. But I do think SVS point on Golden/Kate could have some merit.

/slight civ reads on:
Rondo
Gullio
Michelle
Neon
Urist

I’d not want to vote off this phase

Marmot
Scotty
Sloonie
Wilgy
Mac
Cap
Le petit (even though they voted for me)
TSP
Svs
Anyone that hasn’t posted

Prime eyeballing in order of most scumish

Dennis
Creature
Kate
TSP
Wilgy


I know the last two are on my not voting off list, so while I’m. Leery of them I’d not vote for them today.


Also honorary mention is Sabie. They’re here and very active, but not really contributing that much yet. They’re also not showcasing that normal townie indecisiveness I’d expect.

I'm sabi not sabie

You only played one game with me

Well shit, no wonder I was so confused that game.

I’m striking my Sabi read until further notice and dying from embarrassment instead

This feels like a fake derp because a) it was announced sabie is a mod in the game and b) you didn't have this issue in cartomacy

Sooooo hmmmm

it's only a fake derp if you're both mafia LOL
if he's mafia and you're town, there's no particular reason he should know who you are, and therefore no particular reason to fake the derp as mafia

I remembered this last night lol, pretty sure neither Sabi nor Sig responded to it

Like this and hated sig's catch up post (in which he defends 112 and pushes creature and scotty)

[Dyslexicon]

Im your CC, we cant both have the same exact ability as town.

Gurl

Cape and Pyxxy flipped the same role. The VTs aren't VT-ing.

Which is why Kate's comment D1 is even more weird now

i am vanilla town with an ability

An ability outside of the thread? Is that what you are talking about?

@Kate What did you have in mind here?

[nutella]

I'm sabi not sabie

You only played one game with me

Well shit, no wonder I was so confused that game.

I’m striking my Sabi read until further notice and dying from embarrassment instead

This feels like a fake derp because a) it was announced sabie is a mod in the game and b) you didn't have this issue in cartomacy

Sooooo hmmmm

it's only a fake derp if you're both mafia LOL
if he's mafia and you're town, there's no particular reason he should know who you are, and therefore no particular reason to fake the derp as mafia

I remembered this last night lol, pretty sure neither Sabi nor Sig responded to it

I didn’t since it was directed at Sabi given their flip I think it’s pretty clear they thought I was a LHF who they could vote off without getting any blame when I flipped

This matter imo is laid to rest i confused two players a quick look at Cartoon Mafia proves I confused two players, and they saw it wasn’t getting traction and dropped it

Yeah it's a funny post, but I do think you're spewed town a bit from it. If only because it'd be a weird play if you're on a team. You call Sabi the wrong name, then she calls you out on it, doesn't seem orchestrated

....I thought you were positing they were w/w huh

[Urist]

Well shit, no wonder I was so confused that game.

I’m striking my Sabi read until further notice and dying from embarrassment instead

This feels like a fake derp because a) it was announced sabie is a mod in the game and b) you didn't have this issue in cartomacy

Sooooo hmmmm

it's only a fake derp if you're both mafia LOL
if he's mafia and you're town, there's no particular reason he should know who you are, and therefore no particular reason to fake the derp as mafia

I remembered this last night lol, pretty sure neither Sabi nor Sig responded to it

I didn’t since it was directed at Sabi given their flip I think it’s pretty clear they thought I was a LHF who they could vote off without getting any blame when I flipped

This matter imo is laid to rest i confused two players a quick look at Cartoon Mafia proves I confused two players, and they saw it wasn’t getting traction and dropped it

Yeah it's a funny post, but I do think you're spewed town a bit from it. If only because it'd be a weird play if you're on a team. You call Sabi the wrong name, then she calls you out on it, doesn't seem orchestrated

....I thought you were positing they were w/w huh

I rethought it, and I think in this case it is more likely that Sabi was pushing a contrived case on a townie, rather than that it was a perspective slip.

[falcon45ca]

I actually wanted to come into D2, if alive, ready to play properly for once. That has not happened.

You had some pep D1...who took the jelly out of your donut?

[nutella]

General reminder that marmot goes by they/them now

[Seanzie]

i think clearing creature/seanzie off that one post sabi made about them is most likely correct then

sabi was very blatantly trying to set them up to look bad when dennis flipped town

Yeah

Think they've both been townish independently anyway

When have I been townish? I've done jackshiz all game.

[nutella]

@Dyslexicon @Master Radishes Hey I think ur cool let's see some dank posts k

[nutella]

i think clearing creature/seanzie off that one post sabi made about them is most likely correct then

sabi was very blatantly trying to set them up to look bad when dennis flipped town

Yeah

Think they've both been townish independently anyway

When have I been townish? I've done jackshiz all game.

Idk

[Dyslexicon]

I still think Party Crasher is a wolf lol

and I find Nutella to be underwhelming here like in that mash game where she got away with early townreads doing nothing for the rest of the game

i agree party crashers is prob mafia not so convinced on nut but maybe... she was pretty heavily complicit in cape going over iawy but did it in a way where she was hiding behind marmot so I'd say if nut w marmot town

Nut town. Her interaction with Sabi not w/w imo

[Dyslexicon]

@Dyslexicon @Master Radishes Hey I think ur cool let's see some dank posts k

Literally catching up right now bb

[Dyslexicon]

I still think Party Crasher is a wolf lol

and I find Nutella to be underwhelming here like in that mash game where she got away with early townreads doing nothing for the rest of the game

i agree party crashers is prob mafia not so convinced on nut but maybe... she was pretty heavily complicit in cape going over iawy but did it in a way where she was hiding behind marmot so I'd say if nut w marmot town

Nut town. Her interaction with Sabi not w/w imo

This is a dank post

[Seanzie]

i think clearing creature/seanzie off that one post sabi made about them is most likely correct then

sabi was very blatantly trying to set them up to look bad when dennis flipped town

Yeah

Think they've both been townish independently anyway

When have I been townish? I've done jackshiz all game.

Idk

[VOTE: Nutella] aubergine

[nutella]

@Dyslexicon @Master Radishes Hey I think ur cool let's see some dank posts k

Literally catching up right now bb

I know I know. Make it snappy cupcake.

[nutella]

i think clearing creature/seanzie off that one post sabi made about them is most likely correct then

sabi was very blatantly trying to set them up to look bad when dennis flipped town

Yeah

Think they've both been townish independently anyway

When have I been townish? I've done jackshiz all game.

Idk

[VOTE: Nutella] aubergine

[Dyslexicon]

Dyslexicon I also feel is a lolcatting wolf and doesn't seem to care that much about where town is going

I genuinely don't know how you got that impression at all. Let me know if there's anything I can help you with.

[Master Radishes]

I actually wanted to come into D2, if alive, ready to play properly for once. That has not happened.

You had some pep D1...who took the jelly out of your donut?

That was, like, 48 hours ago. I've gotten detached.

It's okay, I'll force my way into the game. Just lacking motivation atm.

[nutella]

I was grouping you with creature who I more firmly town read atp but despite your low content d1 I had the impression you were on your own doing what you wanted and waiting for the game to narrow down to solve more, like in SPL

[Master Radishes]

@Dyslexicon @Master Radishes Hey I think ur cool let's see some dank posts k

I think ur cool too.

We'll get there. Need to, like, read something. Will probably start with Sabi's iso at some point.

[Seanzie]

Actual footage of wolfchat last night:

Spoiler: show

[Master Radishes]

Btw I saw the shot on IAWY but haven't read up on any claims in D2 or anything, so if there's anything worthwhile in terms of mech or whatever...

[Seanzie]

I was grouping you with creature who I more firmly town read atp but despite your low content d1 I had the impression you were on your own doing what you wanted and waiting for the game to narrow down to solve more, like in SPL

I was only waiting in SPL because I was PR and wanted to not get killed early before I scouted.

[Seanzie]

Btw I saw the shot on IAWY but haven't read up on any claims in D2 or anything, so if there's anything worthwhile in terms of mech or whatever...

Creature claimed a redcheck on you.

[nutella]

I was grouping you with creature who I more firmly town read atp but despite your low content d1 I had the impression you were on your own doing what you wanted and waiting for the game to narrow down to solve more, like in SPL

I was only waiting in SPL because I was PR and wanted to not get killed early before I scouted.

Alright then if you're not intentionally laying low here then let's hear some spicy takes (other than me wolf)

[Master Radishes]

Btw I saw the shot on IAWY but haven't read up on any claims in D2 or anything, so if there's anything worthwhile in terms of mech or whatever...

Creature claimed a redcheck on you.

OMG HE'S LYING I CC

[nutella]

Btw I saw the shot on IAWY but haven't read up on any claims in D2 or anything, so if there's anything worthwhile in terms of mech or whatever...

Creature claimed a redcheck on you.

OMG HE'S LYING I CC

Guillo r/whoooshes this in 3...2....

[Master Radishes]

[VOTE: Creature] aubergine
[VOTE: Creature] aubergine
[VOTE: Creature] aubergine
[VOTE: Creature] aubergine
[VOTE: Creature] aubergine
[VOTE: Creature] aubergine
[VOTE: Creature] aubergine
[VOTE: Creature] aubergine
[VOTE: Creature] aubergine

[Master Radishes]

Anyway I should actually make dinner so my hungry wife doesn't eat me instead.

[Seanzie]

I was grouping you with creature who I more firmly town read atp but despite your low content d1 I had the impression you were on your own doing what you wanted and waiting for the game to narrow down to solve more, like in SPL

I was only waiting in SPL because I was PR and wanted to not get killed early before I scouted.

Alright then if you're not intentionally laying low here then let's hear some spicy takes (other than me wolf)

I'mma just gonna stick with Nutella wolf.

[Seanzie]

Btw I saw the shot on IAWY but haven't read up on any claims in D2 or anything, so if there's anything worthwhile in terms of mech or whatever...

Creature claimed a redcheck on you.

OMG HE'S LYING I CC

I don't believe you.

[Master Radishes]

Btw I saw the shot on IAWY but haven't read up on any claims in D2 or anything, so if there's anything worthwhile in terms of mech or whatever...

Creature claimed a redcheck on you.

OMG HE'S LYING I CC

I don't believe you.

No one ever should. When I'm actually PR I hold onto my claim till end game and let Dizzy eat bullets for me instead.

[nutella]

I was grouping you with creature who I more firmly town read atp but despite your low content d1 I had the impression you were on your own doing what you wanted and waiting for the game to narrow down to solve more, like in SPL

I was only waiting in SPL because I was PR and wanted to not get killed early before I scouted.

Alright then if you're not intentionally laying low here then let's hear some spicy takes (other than me wolf)

I'mma just gonna stick with Nutella wolf.

I just skimmed your d1 iso and it's much less towny than I thought tbh wowee

Also you claimed the ilario shot, wanna talk about that?

[nutella]

Actually think ilario would be a solid choice for mafia to want out of their way and him flipping 3p is convenient enough to claim

[Alison]

There's a certain calmness to his presence in this thread in the few moments we've crossed paths. Like there is nothing premeditated about any of the things he says or does, and he is just existing naturally in the game. I don't actually recall many reads he has given, but his posture feels authentic.

This is a tone read then basically?

My take on Scotty is that he has done fuck all this game and IAWY scumread him. I don't hold the IAWY shot against him, I would have done it too if I had a dayvig, but I do think that IAWY has decent reads in general and is particularly likely to have good reads because he is a member of the POE (POE members tend to have better reads because they have a green check on themselves and so have slightly better perspective than everyone else in the thread). I am not to-the-death convinced that Scotty is scum, but I don't see what you do in his tone and his actual solving has been kinda nonexistent. This is enough to put him in the POE - coupled with IAWY's conviction that he's mafia, I'm happy to vote him out.

“Iawy was in the POE”
“People in the POE tend to have better reads”
“Scotty is in the POE”
“I’m happy to vote him out”

Town in the POE tend to have better reads. If I vote you obviously I don't think you're town. This is a disingenuous gotcha.

[Golden]

Okay the next four I'd like to talk to ppl about are this four. Anyone wanna go the hard vouch?

hollowkatt
Marmot
master radishes
sig

I found this set much harder to rank. It's probably MR > sig > Marmot > HK right now, but I forget why I ended up with an HK town read. Did sabi spew?

Sig was a town read until that wilgy post, which I agreed with.

I think both you and wilgy are operating under an outdated meta read of me. This is Sig 2.0, I’m more jokey and fun less concerned with the day to day accusations.

Also there wasn’t much to respond to anyway from Wilgy.

In the last game I played with you, Guns Money etc... you were in high 'no u' mode because I suggested there was a chance you could have been faking being vowelised. So, I don't think I'm working to an outdated meta.

[Seanzie]

I was grouping you with creature who I more firmly town read atp but despite your low content d1 I had the impression you were on your own doing what you wanted and waiting for the game to narrow down to solve more, like in SPL

I was only waiting in SPL because I was PR and wanted to not get killed early before I scouted.

Alright then if you're not intentionally laying low here then let's hear some spicy takes (other than me wolf)

I'mma just gonna stick with Nutella wolf.

I just skimmed your d1 iso and it's much less towny than I thought tbh wowee

Also you claimed the ilario shot, wanna talk about that?

Yeah, I shot Ilario. Might shoot you tonight.

[Seanzie]

Actually think ilario would be a solid choice for mafia to want out of their way and him flipping 3p is convenient enough to claim

They also were clearly openwolfing... well I guess open 3ping.

[Alison]

also why does me having multiple shots change you wanting to elim me today?

If you think I’m bad, get rid of me

Like what?

Multiple shots = you can prove your shot is silent = you can prove you shooting IAWY was in good faith (since as mafia with a silent shot you can just kill Mac or something and not say anything)