Game of Champions 2022 mafia win lol

[Golden]

I have to tell my kids to go get their own drinks of water because I am not their slave and I'm sure as heck not yours. I have eight direct reports, three children under 6, that's quite enough people who need my attention every day... I'm just not going to give you (or anyone else) what they want.

If you don't like it, tough.

This is the hard part about getting used to me. I don't play fetch.

[Porscha]

You said you where sheeping Mac's PoE, which Alison got out of, meaning Mac declared her not sus, so you are sheeping that.

Now you say it's because Alison is townsiding, so you were not sheeping Mac's read on Alison now did you? You are telling me now that Alison is townsiding.

How do you determine that?

Alison took YOU out of it, not herself

But you said Mac's PoE not Alison's PoE, was that a mistake?

No, it's not a mistake, you just need to fucking read the thread so you know what happened.

Mac made a PoE, and asked for people to make good cases to get people out of it.

Alison goty you out of it. Now you're not in the PoE

This really isn't hard if you just go back and read a few pages instead of asking me all about it.

Why are you getting hostile?

So you said that the reason you are no longet voting me is because you trust Mac's POE.
I asked if you townread Mac enough to trust him on things, you said at the moment, meaning not certainty on Mac to begin with.
I asked you based on what did you build that trust on Mac's PoE.
You couldnt explain and you changed it to Alison is townsiding not because Mac's PoE.
I asked how she is townsiding
You can't tell me either and now you use foul language and get all hostile on me.

I believe that you were trying to pocket Mac using him as a reason to back out of your push on Alison.

[VOTE: Golden] aubergine

Dude

Just go read the thread

No, i want you to show me, the thread is 200 pages long.

I'd like to step in and say that golden has temporary trust of mac and alison and since alison "cleared" you, guillo, golden is also running with that idea

[Dyslexicon]

Question for the crowd:

Does specifying “soup mafia” on a vanilla role imply two teams or not?

I hope not. Multiball is obnoxious. I also don't think it's very helpful to assume one thing or another, and rather just hunt based on the flips we do have. If I'm not mistaken, there's been only one mafia team in recent previous GoCs.

[Golden]

Alison took YOU out of it, not herself

But you said Mac's PoE not Alison's PoE, was that a mistake?

No, it's not a mistake, you just need to fucking read the thread so you know what happened.

Mac made a PoE, and asked for people to make good cases to get people out of it.

Alison goty you out of it. Now you're not in the PoE

This really isn't hard if you just go back and read a few pages instead of asking me all about it.

Why are you getting hostile?

So you said that the reason you are no longet voting me is because you trust Mac's POE.
I asked if you townread Mac enough to trust him on things, you said at the moment, meaning not certainty on Mac to begin with.
I asked you based on what did you build that trust on Mac's PoE.
You couldnt explain and you changed it to Alison is townsiding not because Mac's PoE.
I asked how she is townsiding
You can't tell me either and now you use foul language and get all hostile on me.

I believe that you were trying to pocket Mac using him as a reason to back out of your push on Alison.

[VOTE: Golden] aubergine

Dude

Just go read the thread

No, i want you to show me, the thread is 200 pages long.

I'd like to step in and say that golden has temporary trust of mac and alison and since alison "cleared" you, guillo, golden is also running with that idea

I don't think it's unreasonable to ask Guillo to read three pages.

[Golden]

Question for the crowd:

Does specifying “soup mafia” on a vanilla role imply two teams or not?

I hope not. Multiball is obnoxious. I also don't think it's very helpful to assume one thing or another, and rather just hunt based on the flips we do have. If I'm not mistaken, there's been only one mafia team in recent previous GoCs.

Hidden multiball, or multiball in general?

(Personally I love multiball, it suits my hunting style).

But I think everyone has agreed on your overall thought process for hunting at this point.

[Dyslexicon]

[VOTE: Seanzie] aubergine

literally no one has mentioned seanzie in all the random lists of names. it's a bad sign, tbh.

This applies to a bunch of people. Lily and dizzy, off the top of my head. These people aren't being included in lists because they aren't posting

I'm not being included because I'm too sexy. Let's get it right.

[Urist]

I have to tell my kids to go get their own drinks of water because I am not their slave and I'm sure as heck not yours. I have eight direct reports, three children under 6, that's quite enough people who need my attention every day... I'm just not going to give you (or anyone else) what they want.

If you don't like it, tough.

This is the hard part about getting used to me. I don't play fetch.

My wife and I were literally just saying we had to teach our kids to get their own water. Then I open the thread and see this. Weird shit.

[Porscha]

But you said Mac's PoE not Alison's PoE, was that a mistake?

No, it's not a mistake, you just need to fucking read the thread so you know what happened.

Mac made a PoE, and asked for people to make good cases to get people out of it.

Alison goty you out of it. Now you're not in the PoE

This really isn't hard if you just go back and read a few pages instead of asking me all about it.

Why are you getting hostile?

So you said that the reason you are no longet voting me is because you trust Mac's POE.
I asked if you townread Mac enough to trust him on things, you said at the moment, meaning not certainty on Mac to begin with.
I asked you based on what did you build that trust on Mac's PoE.
You couldnt explain and you changed it to Alison is townsiding not because Mac's PoE.
I asked how she is townsiding
You can't tell me either and now you use foul language and get all hostile on me.

I believe that you were trying to pocket Mac using him as a reason to back out of your push on Alison.

[VOTE: Golden] aubergine

Dude

Just go read the thread

No, i want you to show me, the thread is 200 pages long.

I'd like to step in and say that golden has temporary trust of mac and alison and since alison "cleared" you, guillo, golden is also running with that idea

I don't think it's unreasonable to ask Guillo to read three pages.

No it probably isnt but I'm trying to ensure that this very very basic concept that is somehow getting turned into angry nonsense and confusion is not an ego antagonist on Guillo's part, and that it is purely confusion on who did what so I dont mind summarizing it so this can move the fuck on lmao

Guillo:
Mac had you poe
Alison said no I think guillo town I vouch for him
Golden is viewing mac and alison as town today and taking Alison's word for it on your alignment

That's it congratulations please continue to have what will hopefully be a productive conversation or perhaps now that it's been cleared up it will not need to continue being discussed

[Golden]

I have to tell my kids to go get their own drinks of water because I am not their slave and I'm sure as heck not yours. I have eight direct reports, three children under 6, that's quite enough people who need my attention every day... I'm just not going to give you (or anyone else) what they want.

If you don't like it, tough.

This is the hard part about getting used to me. I don't play fetch.

My wife and I were literally just saying we had to teach our kids to get their own water. Then I open the thread and see this. Weird shit.

I mean this is also genuinely why I do get kinda aggro at this stuff in mafia. It's parenting trauma. I do feel bad for guillo, it's not really aimed at them, it's transference of being everyone's slave.

[Golden]

No, it's not a mistake, you just need to fucking read the thread so you know what happened.

Mac made a PoE, and asked for people to make good cases to get people out of it.

Alison goty you out of it. Now you're not in the PoE

This really isn't hard if you just go back and read a few pages instead of asking me all about it.

Why are you getting hostile?

So you said that the reason you are no longet voting me is because you trust Mac's POE.
I asked if you townread Mac enough to trust him on things, you said at the moment, meaning not certainty on Mac to begin with.
I asked you based on what did you build that trust on Mac's PoE.
You couldnt explain and you changed it to Alison is townsiding not because Mac's PoE.
I asked how she is townsiding
You can't tell me either and now you use foul language and get all hostile on me.

I believe that you were trying to pocket Mac using him as a reason to back out of your push on Alison.

[VOTE: Golden] aubergine

Dude

Just go read the thread

No, i want you to show me, the thread is 200 pages long.

I'd like to step in and say that golden has temporary trust of mac and alison and since alison "cleared" you, guillo, golden is also running with that idea

I don't think it's unreasonable to ask Guillo to read three pages.

No it probably isnt but I'm trying to ensure that this very very basic concept that is somehow getting turned into angry nonsense and confusion is not an ego antagonist on Guillo's part, and that it is purely confusion on who did what so I dont mind summarizing it so this can move the fuck on lmao

Guillo:
Mac had you poe
Alison said no I think guillo town I vouch for him
Golden is viewing mac and alison as town today and taking Alison's word for it on your alignment

That's it congratulations please continue to have what will hopefully be a productive conversation or perhaps now that it's been cleared up it will not need to continue being discussed

Town read for Porscha for this tbh

[Sloonei]

@Golden Can you get me a glass of water?

[Golden]

@Golden Can you get me a glass of water?

Avada Kedavra

[Golden]

Hey scotty, why doesn't this work for me?

[Scotty]

I’m down to follow Mac’s poe today

[VOTE: Marmot] aubergine

Incidentally, I’m also down to end my vote on Mac if he so chooses to remove me from a POE.

Honestly, I think if his role is the RealDeal (tm), everyone in the POE should be voting him anyway.

[Scotty]

I promise if someone gives me another shot I won’t announce it in thread next time!

Did you have a choice?

I got a shot that I used at top of day and I was told wouldn’t go into effect until an hour after start, so I waited until an hour thinking it would go off then…then waited another hour after that lol

If I chose to holster today, I would die at end of day.

[Guillotine]

I'm hunting in Mac's PoE, which Alison got you out of.

And for now, I trust Alison enough to go with the vouch.

I trust Alison because she's townsiding, not because wolf tells me too.

I'm trusting Alison removing you from the PoE the same way Alison is trusting me removing Kate from the PoE. When you find a towncore you need to listen to each other.

Someone (Scotty?) mentioned page 111 being good content. It really is - that whole zone of 110-112ish (ha, ironic) is the most I've felt the gamestate shift in the towns favour. After 100 pages of flying around on tropey reads, Mac pulled together a very solid PoE and whittled people out of it. The result is, I think, a group of four that elimming and vigging within is likely to be fruitful (and a broader group of at least another four that probably also contains at least one wolf).

For me, Mac, Alison and Neon are all towncore out of that convo. There was a lot of proper townie shit going on there.

You said you where sheeping Mac's PoE, which Alison got out of, meaning Mac declared her not sus, so you are sheeping that.

Now you say it's because Alison is townsiding, so you were not sheeping Mac's read on Alison now did you? You are telling me now that Alison is townsiding.

How do you determine that?

Alison took YOU out of it, not herself

But you said Mac's PoE not Alison's PoE, was that a mistake?

No, it's not a mistake, you just need to fucking read the thread so you know what happened.

Mac made a PoE, and asked for people to make good cases to get people out of it.

Alison goty you out of it. Now you're not in the PoE

This really isn't hard if you just go back and read a few pages instead of asking me all about it.

Why are you getting hostile?

So you said that the reason you are no longet voting me is because you trust Mac's POE.
I asked if you townread Mac enough to trust him on things, you said at the moment, meaning not certainty on Mac to begin with.
I asked you based on what did you build that trust on Mac's PoE.
You couldnt explain and you changed it to Alison is townsiding not because Mac's PoE.
I asked how she is townsiding
You can't tell me either and now you use foul language and get all hostile on me.

I believe that you were trying to pocket Mac using him as a reason to back out of your push on Alison.

[VOTE: Golden] aubergine

Let me just completely disintegrate this for a second.

I did not say I 'trust' Mac's PoE. I said I'm hunting in it. You're not in Mac's PoE, therefore I'm not voting you.
You did not ask me based on what did I build trust in Mac's PoE. I built trust in Mac's PoE because I built trust in Mac, and because his development of the PoE is fucking stellar. Which - go read the thread. If you're townsiding and actually read that whole process, you'll agree.
You've invented a world in which I change from trusting Mac to trusting Alison because you cannot understand this basic fact - "Alison got you out of Mac's PoE" - which would be very basic to udnerstand if you just... read the thread.
I am going with Alison's vouch on you because I townread Alison, not because I trust you. I still think you're a good vig shot, but I believe in towncore consensus building for choosing the elim target.

If you literally just read the thread, you will quickly see it ain't me pocketing Mac. If anyone has pocketed anyone it's the other way around.
And my 'push' on Alison ended, like, half way through the day one phase. I haven't been pushing Alison for a looooong time.

What all of this tells me is that you aren't paying attention to thread state at all, which I'm inherently suspicious of. But Michelle keeps telling me to give you time.

I dont get it.

You are saying that you are trusting Mac's PoE because Alison got me out of PoE.

What?

You clearly just stated i would be a great vig shot so you dont trust me. So why are you trusting Alison's read on me if you yourself cant even trust me? It looks like you cant explain why do you trust Mac's PoE, or Alison's read on me enough to sheep that PoE mace by Mac.

What if Alison and I were wolves? What if Alison is a wolf trying to associate me with her? Or pocketing me? What if she is using her charisma to second guess yourself about me?
Where are all of this questions in your head?

You can't show me why do you trust them.

[Golden]

You said you where sheeping Mac's PoE, which Alison got out of, meaning Mac declared her not sus, so you are sheeping that.

Now you say it's because Alison is townsiding, so you were not sheeping Mac's read on Alison now did you? You are telling me now that Alison is townsiding.

How do you determine that?

Alison took YOU out of it, not herself

But you said Mac's PoE not Alison's PoE, was that a mistake?

No, it's not a mistake, you just need to fucking read the thread so you know what happened.

Mac made a PoE, and asked for people to make good cases to get people out of it.

Alison goty you out of it. Now you're not in the PoE

This really isn't hard if you just go back and read a few pages instead of asking me all about it.

Why are you getting hostile?

So you said that the reason you are no longet voting me is because you trust Mac's POE.
I asked if you townread Mac enough to trust him on things, you said at the moment, meaning not certainty on Mac to begin with.
I asked you based on what did you build that trust on Mac's PoE.
You couldnt explain and you changed it to Alison is townsiding not because Mac's PoE.
I asked how she is townsiding
You can't tell me either and now you use foul language and get all hostile on me.

I believe that you were trying to pocket Mac using him as a reason to back out of your push on Alison.

[VOTE: Golden] aubergine

Let me just completely disintegrate this for a second.

I did not say I 'trust' Mac's PoE. I said I'm hunting in it. You're not in Mac's PoE, therefore I'm not voting you.
You did not ask me based on what did I build trust in Mac's PoE. I built trust in Mac's PoE because I built trust in Mac, and because his development of the PoE is fucking stellar. Which - go read the thread. If you're townsiding and actually read that whole process, you'll agree.
You've invented a world in which I change from trusting Mac to trusting Alison because you cannot understand this basic fact - "Alison got you out of Mac's PoE" - which would be very basic to udnerstand if you just... read the thread.
I am going with Alison's vouch on you because I townread Alison, not because I trust you. I still think you're a good vig shot, but I believe in towncore consensus building for choosing the elim target.

If you literally just read the thread, you will quickly see it ain't me pocketing Mac. If anyone has pocketed anyone it's the other way around.
And my 'push' on Alison ended, like, half way through the day one phase. I haven't been pushing Alison for a looooong time.

What all of this tells me is that you aren't paying attention to thread state at all, which I'm inherently suspicious of. But Michelle keeps telling me to give you time.

I dont get it.

You are saying that you are trusting Mac's PoE because Alison got me out of PoE.

What?

You clearly just stated i would be a great vig shot so you dont trust me. So why are you trusting Alison's read on me if you yourself cant even trust me? It looks like you cant explain why do you trust Mac's PoE, or Alison's read on me enough to sheep that PoE mace by Mac.

What if Alison and I were wolves? What if Alison is a wolf trying to associate me with her? Or pocketing me? What if she is using her charisma to second guess yourself about me?
Where are all of this questions in your head?

You can't show me why do you trust them.

I can show you, you’re just facing the opposite way in the audience instead of the stage. I can’t make you turn around.

[Dyslexicon]

Yes. I was leaning Ender town for a bit now I am back to him being lost wolf.

Why lost wolf, specifically?

[Guillotine]

Alison took YOU out of it, not herself

But you said Mac's PoE not Alison's PoE, was that a mistake?

No, it's not a mistake, you just need to fucking read the thread so you know what happened.

Mac made a PoE, and asked for people to make good cases to get people out of it.

Alison goty you out of it. Now you're not in the PoE

This really isn't hard if you just go back and read a few pages instead of asking me all about it.

Why are you getting hostile?

So you said that the reason you are no longet voting me is because you trust Mac's POE.
I asked if you townread Mac enough to trust him on things, you said at the moment, meaning not certainty on Mac to begin with.
I asked you based on what did you build that trust on Mac's PoE.
You couldnt explain and you changed it to Alison is townsiding not because Mac's PoE.
I asked how she is townsiding
You can't tell me either and now you use foul language and get all hostile on me.

I believe that you were trying to pocket Mac using him as a reason to back out of your push on Alison.

[VOTE: Golden] aubergine

Let me just completely disintegrate this for a second.

I did not say I 'trust' Mac's PoE. I said I'm hunting in it. You're not in Mac's PoE, therefore I'm not voting you.
You did not ask me based on what did I build trust in Mac's PoE. I built trust in Mac's PoE because I built trust in Mac, and because his development of the PoE is fucking stellar. Which - go read the thread. If you're townsiding and actually read that whole process, you'll agree.
You've invented a world in which I change from trusting Mac to trusting Alison because you cannot understand this basic fact - "Alison got you out of Mac's PoE" - which would be very basic to udnerstand if you just... read the thread.
I am going with Alison's vouch on you because I townread Alison, not because I trust you. I still think you're a good vig shot, but I believe in towncore consensus building for choosing the elim target.

If you literally just read the thread, you will quickly see it ain't me pocketing Mac. If anyone has pocketed anyone it's the other way around.
And my 'push' on Alison ended, like, half way through the day one phase. I haven't been pushing Alison for a looooong time.

What all of this tells me is that you aren't paying attention to thread state at all, which I'm inherently suspicious of. But Michelle keeps telling me to give you time.

I dont get it.

You are saying that you are trusting Mac's PoE because Alison got me out of PoE.

What?

You clearly just stated i would be a great vig shot so you dont trust me. So why are you trusting Alison's read on me if you yourself cant even trust me? It looks like you cant explain why do you trust Mac's PoE, or Alison's read on me enough to sheep that PoE mace by Mac.

What if Alison and I were wolves? What if Alison is a wolf trying to associate me with her? Or pocketing me? What if she is using her charisma to second guess yourself about me?
Where are all of this questions in your head?

You can't show me why do you trust them.

I can show you, you’re just facing the opposite way in the audience instead of the stage. I can’t make you turn around.

Dont you decide for me.

Please show me.

[Golden]

You’ve tied yourself up in a million knots over your own misunderstandings. The fastest way of fixing it for yourself is to read pages 110 through 112.

[Golden]

But you said Mac's PoE not Alison's PoE, was that a mistake?

No, it's not a mistake, you just need to fucking read the thread so you know what happened.

Mac made a PoE, and asked for people to make good cases to get people out of it.

Alison goty you out of it. Now you're not in the PoE

This really isn't hard if you just go back and read a few pages instead of asking me all about it.

Why are you getting hostile?

So you said that the reason you are no longet voting me is because you trust Mac's POE.
I asked if you townread Mac enough to trust him on things, you said at the moment, meaning not certainty on Mac to begin with.
I asked you based on what did you build that trust on Mac's PoE.
You couldnt explain and you changed it to Alison is townsiding not because Mac's PoE.
I asked how she is townsiding
You can't tell me either and now you use foul language and get all hostile on me.

I believe that you were trying to pocket Mac using him as a reason to back out of your push on Alison.

[VOTE: Golden] aubergine

Let me just completely disintegrate this for a second.

I did not say I 'trust' Mac's PoE. I said I'm hunting in it. You're not in Mac's PoE, therefore I'm not voting you.
You did not ask me based on what did I build trust in Mac's PoE. I built trust in Mac's PoE because I built trust in Mac, and because his development of the PoE is fucking stellar. Which - go read the thread. If you're townsiding and actually read that whole process, you'll agree.
You've invented a world in which I change from trusting Mac to trusting Alison because you cannot understand this basic fact - "Alison got you out of Mac's PoE" - which would be very basic to udnerstand if you just... read the thread.
I am going with Alison's vouch on you because I townread Alison, not because I trust you. I still think you're a good vig shot, but I believe in towncore consensus building for choosing the elim target.

If you literally just read the thread, you will quickly see it ain't me pocketing Mac. If anyone has pocketed anyone it's the other way around.
And my 'push' on Alison ended, like, half way through the day one phase. I haven't been pushing Alison for a looooong time.

What all of this tells me is that you aren't paying attention to thread state at all, which I'm inherently suspicious of. But Michelle keeps telling me to give you time.

I dont get it.

You are saying that you are trusting Mac's PoE because Alison got me out of PoE.

What?

You clearly just stated i would be a great vig shot so you dont trust me. So why are you trusting Alison's read on me if you yourself cant even trust me? It looks like you cant explain why do you trust Mac's PoE, or Alison's read on me enough to sheep that PoE mace by Mac.

What if Alison and I were wolves? What if Alison is a wolf trying to associate me with her? Or pocketing me? What if she is using her charisma to second guess yourself about me?
Where are all of this questions in your head?

You can't show me why do you trust them.

I can show you, you’re just facing the opposite way in the audience instead of the stage. I can’t make you turn around.

Dont you decide for me.

Please show me.

The show is on page 110-112 champ. I’ve showed you. You have to choose to watch.

[Party Crasher]

im thirsty ~w~

please give me water ;-;

[Golden]

im thirsty ~w~

please give me water ;-;

You, I will give water to, but you have to share.

[Scotty]

Hey scotty, why doesn't this work for me?

You have to truly mean it[/it]

[Party Crasher]

woah all of this talk about lost wolves sure is making me feel

>>>>>>>>>>>LOST<<<<<<<<<<<<

WINK WINK

[Dyslexicon]

112
Alison
Dyslexicon
Guillotine
Kate
Nutella
Party Crasher
S~V~S
Seanzie
Sloonei

I would much appreciate anyone who townreads the above names giving light to why. I have no interest in "vibes" or other such answers. I want real tangible line in the sand answers please. Or if you are in this list, please show me where you think you've been town.

Am town because cute. Also I tried to make Sabi a wagon when she had a few votes yesterday.

Nutella town from interactions with Sabi and also towny play.

I think PC role revealed and is town.

[Scotty]

You’ve tied yourself up in a million knots over your own misunderstandings. The fastest way of fixing it for yourself is to read pages 110 through 112.

I don’t actually know what semantical stuff you and Guillo are arguing about with this ‘show me the money’ banter

But @Guillotine i would also just recommend reading those pages just in general. Lots of good solving going on

[Guillotine]

Guillo's read is bogus tho.

People who know Guillo better than me read town. I, not knowing Guillo at all, can't form a read based on knowledge, and I just see the behaviour as wolfy on the facts.

Michelle has asked me to give Guillo more time. Guillo has expressed disengagement. Do you know Guillo much? Give me your takes on meta.

Yes I am pretty familiar with Guillo and am not often wrong on him but being forced to read him in this context is different to how I am usually able to get a read on him. I just think that his tunneling me is a tactic he's using to try to keep me in check honestly. And I also thought the interaction between him and Rondo was fucking strange.

What about my unteraction with Rondo is strange? I keep forgetting he exists

[Dyslexicon]

woah all of this talk about lost wolves sure is making me feel

>>>>>>>>>>>LOST<<<<<<<<<<<<

WINK WINK

Awkward. I Just said you were town.

I still think you're town.

[Golden]

You’ve tied yourself up in a million knots over your own misunderstandings. The fastest way of fixing it for yourself is to read pages 110 through 112.

I don’t actually know what semantical stuff you and Guillo are arguing about with this ‘show me the money’ banter

But @Guillotine i would also just recommend reading those pages just in general. Lots of good solving going on

Lots of great solving going on.

By Mac and Alison.

Which is why I town read them.

It’s not hard.

[Party Crasher]

I think PC role revealed and is town.

probably dizzy town?

we didnt role reveal, mafia chat probably has a list of all claims. missing a claim sure can happen for maf. but thinking a non-claimed person claimed - probably a town derp who doesnt have access to a list of claims thats worked on by 8 or so ppl

[Scotty]

woah all of this talk about lost wolves sure is making me feel

>>>>>>>>>>>LOST<<<<<<<<<<<<

WINK WINK

Eh it’s been done:

Lost mafia is not a new concept.

@Sloonei pyxxy is from my home community. Lost wolves aren't a thing there at all

What is lost mafia/wolves? Because I'm imagining the mafia in a car and there's the navigator who doesn't want to admit they have no clue where they are

And by that, I mean I have no clue what it means in mafia terms

That's what you assume LOST means? Who are you? Who's son are you???

how much would cood a would chuck chuck if a would chuck cood chuck would

A wood chuck would chuck as much wood as a wood chuck could chuck, if a wood chuck could chuck wood.

Did you even notice that I switched the 'would's and 'wood's

Did anyone notice that

Nope. That was LOST on me...

[Guillotine]

Guillo's read is bogus tho.

People who know Guillo better than me read town. I, not knowing Guillo at all, can't form a read based on knowledge, and I just see the behaviour as wolfy on the facts.

Michelle has asked me to give Guillo more time. Guillo has expressed disengagement. Do you know Guillo much? Give me your takes on meta.

Yes I am pretty familiar with Guillo and am not often wrong on him but being forced to read him in this context is different to how I am usually able to get a read on him. I just think that his tunneling me is a tactic he's using to try to keep me in check honestly. And I also thought the interaction between him and Rondo was fucking strange.

"keep you in check" like "get a clear read" or "stop your towning" or ambiguous?

disrupt my process, stop my towning more or less... he already showed his hand earlier with the fake counterclaim gambit and then dropped that, and then out of nowhere just started arbitrarily tunneling me again and pleading to a godread that doesn't exist, i cannot give him town points for it.

Oh im sorry your majesty for questioning you, i forgot i had to bow and ask,permission to do so.

[Party Crasher]

woah all of this talk about lost wolves sure is making me feel

>>>>>>>>>>>LOST<<<<<<<<<<<<

WINK WINK

Eh it’s been done:

Lost mafia is not a new concept.

@Sloonei pyxxy is from my home community. Lost wolves aren't a thing there at all

What is lost mafia/wolves? Because I'm imagining the mafia in a car and there's the navigator who doesn't want to admit they have no clue where they are

And by that, I mean I have no clue what it means in mafia terms

That's what you assume LOST means? Who are you? Who's son are you???

how much would cood a would chuck chuck if a would chuck cood chuck would

A wood chuck would chuck as much wood as a wood chuck could chuck, if a wood chuck could chuck wood.

Did you even notice that I switched the 'would's and 'wood's

Did anyone notice that

Nope. That was LOST on me...

i bet dennis didnt get the lost reference that show is like dinosaurs to him

[Guillotine]

falcon
golden
kate
mac
neon
nutella

lily
112
dizzy

michelle
ender
hkatt
porscha
svs
scotty
seanzie
sig
ursit

alison
creature
wilgy
marmot
radish
rondo
sloonei

-t

if u want explanations ping syn

This slot has shade me of being scum yesterday and today and yet im nowhere in this list.

You are notbtrying to make us look like we are just distancing if you are a wolf right? Right?

[MacDougall]

I'd like people to actually read through Marmot, Radishes, SVS and 112s ISO and provide some thought on it. I can't make much of an argument for any of them not to be with Sabi except MR.

i mean, i am inside a mental health and substance use "healing centre" and have little computer access because a fellow resident heroically broke all of the computers in our unit, saving many.

i did not anticipate this would happen, but some things happen without prophecy.

jeez

[Dyslexicon]

Having two large wolf teams means town has essentially lost this game already with the amount of town who have died. The fact that so many bullets have flown and only one wolf has died doesn't lend to the idea that we have two wolf teams though it is possible cuz it's kind of a GOC trope honestly.

This is why I don't like multiball. Ends up not mattering what you do, cause faith is not in your hands anyway. But it's fine. GoC is for the fun and for the friendship.

[Party Crasher]

This slot has shade me of being scum yesterday and today and yet im nowhere in this list.

You are notbtrying to make us look like we are just distancing if you are a wolf right? Right?

no i just forgot to put u in a few posts later i think i said ur mafia

[MacDougall]

when i'm dead, you're all going to feel slightly bad about thinking it was me all along and turning out wrong af but you're also going to be pretty okay with it because it's a lhf lynch and we really can't blame anyone if they think i'm mafia. meanwhile, however, i am going to make glib posts for the rest of the phase and repeatedly announce my innocence in ways that are highly aggravating. you're welcome.

Scummy post bro.

thought it was quite towny for 112 tbh

[Alison]

Huh.

This isn’t so much a gotcha as it is a logical fallacy from my POV.
>“Iawy has decent reads in general” is pretty subjective. Who’s to say mine aren’t decent?
> “POE members tend to have better reads because they have a green check on themselves and so have slightly better perspective than everyone else in the thread”
Ok, so. I have a green check on myself.
>”This is enough to put him in the POE”


To put it another way: ‘I like the taste of beef burgers’
‘If someone makes a beef burger, odds are it’ll be good’
‘Someone made a fake beef burger’
‘I’m not even going to bother trying that garbage’

It doesn't matter how good your reads are if I think you are mafia. I only care about the goodness of your reads if I think you are town in the first place.

IAWY flipped town so I can trust him. What reasons have you provided me to trust you? Mac and Sloonei see something in your posting which is the only reason I'm keeping you out of the POE, but I haven't seen you do anything pro town other than shoot IAWY... which could easily have been a loud shot you are pretending is a silent one for cred.

I see that someone mentioned you were gifted a shot. Why do you think you out of all people were selected for that gift?

[Guillotine]

hollowkatt
Marmot
master radishes
sig

112
Guillotine
S~V~S

I am acutely aware that there are town in the above list (especially the upper tier), but the more I close the POE and lift the bar for what I am townreading people for, these are the names I am left with. I personally townread Hollowkatt, Radishes and Sig but none of them are for really good reasons.

I am quite confident that several mafia reside in the list above, and I know for a fact that there are at least 1 or 2 outside of it cuz it's too slanky of a list to be all of them. But I am not deepwolf hunting.

Hmmm? This list looks like poopoo but i may be biased

[Dyslexicon]

I think PC role revealed and is town.

probably dizzy town?

we didnt role reveal, mafia chat probably has a list of all claims. missing a claim sure can happen for maf. but thinking a non-claimed person claimed - probably a town derp who doesnt have access to a list of claims thats worked on by 8 or so ppl

*checks list of claims* Oh never mind.

Actually, I'm confused now. I think I know your role, but maybe I'm wrong. Doesn't matter at this point in time.

[Alison]

Votes for people in Mac's PoE currently:

MR 4 - Falcon, Creature, 112, Urist
112 3 - Mac, nutella, Michelle
SVS 3 - sig, alison, neon
Marmot 2 - golden, Party Crasher

I thought I was on Marmot - I must have forgotten to record my vote

[VOTE: Marmot] aubergine

[Golden]

Huh.

This isn’t so much a gotcha as it is a logical fallacy from my POV.
>“Iawy has decent reads in general” is pretty subjective. Who’s to say mine aren’t decent?
> “POE members tend to have better reads because they have a green check on themselves and so have slightly better perspective than everyone else in the thread”
Ok, so. I have a green check on myself.
>”This is enough to put him in the POE”


To put it another way: ‘I like the taste of beef burgers’
‘If someone makes a beef burger, odds are it’ll be good’
‘Someone made a fake beef burger’
‘I’m not even going to bother trying that garbage’

It doesn't matter how good your reads are if I think you are mafia. I only care about the goodness of your reads if I think you are town in the first place.

IAWY flipped town so I can trust him. What reasons have you provided me to trust you? Mac and Sloonei see something in your posting which is the only reason I'm keeping you out of the POE, but I haven't seen you do anything pro town other than shoot IAWY... which could easily have been a loud shot you are pretending is a silent one for cred.

I see that someone mentioned you were gifted a shot. Why do you think you out of all people were selected for that gift?

TBH I’d trust scotty with a gifted shot because I’d presume he would use it cautiously and not just fire it off at the first opportunity and…

Well bugger, guess I won’t be gifting scotty shots any more.

[Golden]

(No, that’s not a claim, it didn’t come from me.)

[nutella]

I think PC role revealed and is town.

probably dizzy town?

we didnt role reveal, mafia chat probably has a list of all claims. missing a claim sure can happen for maf. but thinking a non-claimed person claimed - probably a town derp who doesnt have access to a list of claims thats worked on by 8 or so ppl

*checks list of claims* Oh never mind.

Actually, I'm confused now. I think I know your role, but maybe I'm wrong. Doesn't matter at this point in time.

huh

[Scotty]

Game Map goes here

D4

[MacDougall]

Nvn MR is actually too wolfy

This is a fun read.

[Golden]

I think PC role revealed and is town.

probably dizzy town?

we didnt role reveal, mafia chat probably has a list of all claims. missing a claim sure can happen for maf. but thinking a non-claimed person claimed - probably a town derp who doesnt have access to a list of claims thats worked on by 8 or so ppl

*checks list of claims* Oh never mind.

Actually, I'm confused now. I think I know your role, but maybe I'm wrong. Doesn't matter at this point in time.

huh

Wasn’t literally the first post in the game a PC roleclaim?

[Scotty]

Huh.

This isn’t so much a gotcha as it is a logical fallacy from my POV.
>“Iawy has decent reads in general” is pretty subjective. Who’s to say mine aren’t decent?
> “POE members tend to have better reads because they have a green check on themselves and so have slightly better perspective than everyone else in the thread”
Ok, so. I have a green check on myself.
>”This is enough to put him in the POE”


To put it another way: ‘I like the taste of beef burgers’
‘If someone makes a beef burger, odds are it’ll be good’
‘Someone made a fake beef burger’
‘I’m not even going to bother trying that garbage’

It doesn't matter how good your reads are if I think you are mafia. I only care about the goodness of your reads if I think you are town in the first place.

IAWY flipped town so I can trust him. What reasons have you provided me to trust you? Mac and Sloonei see something in your posting which is the only reason I'm keeping you out of the POE, but I haven't seen you do anything pro town other than shoot IAWY... which could easily have been a loud shot you are pretending is a silent one for cred.

I see that someone mentioned you were gifted a shot. Why do you think you out of all people were selected for that gift?

TBH I’d trust scotty with a gifted shot because I’d presume he would use it cautiously and not just fire it off at the first opportunity and…

Well bugger, guess I won’t be gifting scotty shots any more.

tbf I expected like 10 people to get shots today so it made the most sense to get it out as early as possible on a player that definitely needed clearing up.

Seriously tho- I won’t announce anything next time. It feels like I found an immunity idol in survivor and ingratiated myself with my tribe by telling everyone so you’d trust me.

Never again.