I'm gonna assume you mean outside of the very very towny vote for yourself Rondo?
And since I doubt you're calling yourself Maf, why not narrow this down a tad?
Sloonei, falcon, Ender, Sean has a wolf if Rondo is a wolf? Who'd be your guess?
I'm gonna assume you mean outside of the very very towny vote for yourself Rondo?
Are you saying you find Creature town?
Yes.
no it was just a bad joke to call attention to the fact that rondo is self-voting for some reason.falcon45ca wrote: ↑Tue Feb 21, 2023 1:26 pmI'm gonna assume you mean outside of the very very towny vote for yourself Rondo?
And since I doubt you're calling yourself Maf, why not narrow this down a tad?
Sloonei, falcon, Ender, Sean has a wolf if Rondo is a wolf? Who'd be your guess?
Isn't Mac trusting Enders read on Rondo?
I voted rondo because of what mac was saying and doing.
It's a trust chain.
You don't then think there would be a bus on Rondo? Why not?Urist wrote: ↑Tue Feb 21, 2023 1:29 pmno it was just a bad joke to call attention to the fact that rondo is self-voting for some reason.falcon45ca wrote: ↑Tue Feb 21, 2023 1:26 pmI'm gonna assume you mean outside of the very very towny vote for yourself Rondo?
And since I doubt you're calling yourself Maf, why not narrow this down a tad?
Sloonei, falcon, Ender, Sean has a wolf if Rondo is a wolf? Who'd be your guess?
Seanzie wrote: ↑Tue Feb 21, 2023 1:28 pmYes.
Talk to me about your Creature TR if ya plz
This might be my favorite post of yours this game by the wayRondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Tue Feb 21, 2023 5:50 amI wouldnt be surprised if Wilgy and Sloonie were w/w or t/t or even 3/3. Golden I am happy to just live and not end game just like me. Scotty is just doing scotty things and people are townreading him for it which is like "shrug ok" then why dont you town read Rondo for doing Rondo things? Its interesting. Sig I could kill but he has good energy at times. Alison I have conceded is probably town in the knowledge that Nutella/Mac/Golden/Alison can not ALL be wolves and if one of them is the others will find.Porscha wrote: ↑Tue Feb 21, 2023 5:40 amI am head empty no thoughts on sloonei and golden, I am decidedly unsure on scotty but I'm enjoying having him around so that's happenstance luck for him, sig and rondo could flip either I agree, but I do think it's a twinge silly to tr alison cuz her reads are logic based (because when are they not?)MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Feb 21, 2023 5:28 am SVS wagon breakdown
Sloonei ... I feel is likely detached town but he's certainly not out of his known wolfrange. His posts have all had good tone and he seems to lack wolf agenda.
Scotty ... I kinda townread for similar reasons. His play is maybe a bit more of the cavalier style than Sloonei's.
Golden. He's... such a good wolf I just can't shake the suspicion. His justifications for his reads and pushes all make sense they're just ... its like they are sensible but not compelling. Good excuses not actual reasons? And I feel that there's something to be said for the moves he's not making ... such as how he's treating Urist and Rondo. It feels like he's trying to thread a needle of powerwolfing without townsiding or something.
Alison ... like I have maybe a little paranoia here too but it's not as bad as it is towards Golden because her rationalisation feels more reasonable each time. The reasons she's giving for her town and mafia reads are consistently evidence based and in a way that's like "ohhh I see this is fair". Such as her Seanzie shield that if not for said effort providing reason would be driving more paranoia.
Sig and Rondo are like the two slots I just shrug and say "beats me they could flip both ways".
So all up I'm trying to say that this wagon has nearly 6 shrug slots on it. And the chances of those 6 being all town is close to nil to me.
While it's possible that Rondo is being bussed, it would be weird considering there are other viable options on the table. Unless of course the other viable options are also mafia.falcon45ca wrote: ↑Tue Feb 21, 2023 1:34 pmYou don't then think there would be a bus on Rondo? Why not?Urist wrote: ↑Tue Feb 21, 2023 1:29 pmno it was just a bad joke to call attention to the fact that rondo is self-voting for some reason.falcon45ca wrote: ↑Tue Feb 21, 2023 1:26 pmI'm gonna assume you mean outside of the very very towny vote for yourself Rondo?
And since I doubt you're calling yourself Maf, why not narrow this down a tad?
Sloonei, falcon, Ender, Sean has a wolf if Rondo is a wolf? Who'd be your guess?
Do you feel you've been hunting this RD? Cuz yer bad joke is the kind of awkward thing Maf do when bussing a teammate IMO
I don't really know how to articulate it beyond he's doing all the Creaturey things Creature does as town. Throwing out seemingly random pushes and names and complaints, lots of complaints and waiting for things to happen while tossing in reactions on the sidelines. Those are things that sound kind of baseline wolfy without context but having played with Creature a lot it's happening in an organic way and does not look like he's forcing himself to post. Glancing at his iso I could be wrong and don't see particular things that really bolster my confidence here, so I'll lay off on strongly shielding him as I could be wrong but really do not think he's a priority when we have a handful of promising wagons atm.falcon45ca wrote: ↑Tue Feb 21, 2023 1:35 pmSeanzie wrote: ↑Tue Feb 21, 2023 1:28 pmYes.Talk to me about your Creature TR if ya plz
I’m definitely not living up to mine.MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Feb 21, 2023 6:16 am I probably haven't been living up to my job title lately haha.
Scotty wrote: ↑Tue Feb 21, 2023 1:41 pmI’m definitely not living up to mine.MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Feb 21, 2023 6:16 am I probably haven't been living up to my job title lately haha.
I don’t even know anyone named Jeff
To make the wagon appear larger than it is, is my guess.
YeeeeeeeeeDyslexicon wrote: ↑Tue Feb 21, 2023 1:42 pm The thing is basically
Rondo looks like a lot of flailing and his posts reads AGENDA all over. Like it's not coming from anywhere, it's just manoeuvring. That's how I read it.
I don't see any solving or even helping in Sean's posts. It's mostly fluff and one liners, and few of them are game relevant, and if they are they are shallow. I think Sean would actually try to solve the game if he was in this position as town. I'm not seeing that here.
I think it's pretty likely both are wolves. And I'm not known for having strong wolf reads.
@Kate Can you answer this? I see my mention failed the first time around.
Others town read Creature and he looks the same to me as in other games I've seen him town.
Creature is an easy read if you know what to look for. He's very stilted as a wolf, and very freeflowy as town. Now, it did take me longer to find him in Cartomancy, so I'm a bit wary that he's getting better as wolf, but there were like a string of posts he did D1 that just screamed town!Creature.falcon45ca wrote: ↑Tue Feb 21, 2023 1:35 pmSeanzie wrote: ↑Tue Feb 21, 2023 1:28 pmYes.Talk to me about your Creature TR if ya plz
By that logic, is wolf SVS not level headed? I think that’s undermining the skill of SVS.MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Feb 21, 2023 7:05 am Honestly I think I might push for Rondo to go over here on the strength of Ender's read. I don't have equal confidence in any reads and he definitely vibes as town here.
I am just also rather convinced Seanzie will be a mafia flip also and Nutella has a strong read there plus his wagon is strong.
SVS doesn't feel like a wolf to me. She's too level headed. I don't sense any wolf discomfort with her wagon. Which is something I can see in MR for instance.
SVS is kind of in the game state spot I would expect mafia to be. Their content does feel safe and almost controlled. So if that is unlike her as town, that is very much a red flagScotty wrote: ↑Tue Feb 21, 2023 1:53 pmBy that logic, is wolf SVS not level headed? I think that’s undermining the skill of SVS.MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Feb 21, 2023 7:05 am Honestly I think I might push for Rondo to go over here on the strength of Ender's read. I don't have equal confidence in any reads and he definitely vibes as town here.
I am just also rather convinced Seanzie will be a mafia flip also and Nutella has a strong read there plus his wagon is strong.
SVS doesn't feel like a wolf to me. She's too level headed. I don't sense any wolf discomfort with her wagon. Which is something I can see in MR for instance.
I have seen an SVS hanging around in the shadows and picking one person- Marmot- with whom to build a case around. That’s perfectly safe, and not obtrusive as Marmot had already been a target of ire for people.
*shrug*
Yeah actually golden made a good point about that a page or two back as well, that she would be more reactive to the wagon on her as townDyslexicon wrote: ↑Tue Feb 21, 2023 1:58 pmSVS is kind of in the game state spot I would expect mafia to be. Their content does feel safe and almost controlled. So if that is unlike her as town, that is very much a red flagScotty wrote: ↑Tue Feb 21, 2023 1:53 pmBy that logic, is wolf SVS not level headed? I think that’s undermining the skill of SVS.MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Feb 21, 2023 7:05 am Honestly I think I might push for Rondo to go over here on the strength of Ender's read. I don't have equal confidence in any reads and he definitely vibes as town here.
I am just also rather convinced Seanzie will be a mafia flip also and Nutella has a strong read there plus his wagon is strong.
SVS doesn't feel like a wolf to me. She's too level headed. I don't sense any wolf discomfort with her wagon. Which is something I can see in MR for instance.
I have seen an SVS hanging around in the shadows and picking one person- Marmot- with whom to build a case around. That’s perfectly safe, and not obtrusive as Marmot had already been a target of ire for people.
*shrug*
Read ISO. It's still there, I'm guessing, just not as loud.
Genuine question: assuming I know that quote is out there, and I’m wolf, what do you think my reaction is to a proposed rask kill in wolfchat?
Love this question from falcon.falcon45ca wrote: ↑Tue Feb 21, 2023 1:26 pmI'm gonna assume you mean outside of the very very towny vote for yourself Rondo?
And since I doubt you're calling yourself Maf, why not narrow this down a tad?
Sloonei, falcon, Ender, Sean has a wolf if Rondo is a wolf? Who'd be your guess?
Either a 3p or an ability that doesn't affect game play or does very slightly. One time I played a games, ages ago, where there was a video game of some sort that you could get chosen to play and IF you got the highest score you got some small reward. His comment reminded me of that game specifically.Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Tue Feb 21, 2023 1:45 pm@Kate Can you answer this? I see my mention failed the first time around.
Like even if they're mafia partners, Rondo has to be far better positioned than either of them, so it makes sense to sacrifice them before him. He's not gonna get Mac killed ever so... what's his agenda exactly?
Maybe Rondo likes slapfighting?
This makes a lot of sense.
Um hey what?Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Tue Feb 21, 2023 1:42 pm Ender said I could have him, and I'm already on my way to New Zealand
this is never a worthwhile argument ime. there's too many variablesGolden wrote: ↑Tue Feb 21, 2023 2:17 pmGenuine question: assuming I know that quote is out there, and I’m wolf, what do you think my reaction is to a proposed rask kill in wolfchat?
Why would you assume that, when you yourself claimed vanilla?Kate wrote: ↑Tue Feb 21, 2023 2:20 pmEither a 3p or an ability that doesn't affect game play or does very slightly. One time I played a games, ages ago, where there was a video game of some sort that you could get chosen to play and IF you got the highest score you got some small reward. His comment reminded me of that game specifically.Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Tue Feb 21, 2023 1:45 pm@Kate Can you answer this? I see my mention failed the first time around.
Because Sean is mafia kp
There's some rather worrisome wordage around her claim. I want people to remember that and pay some attention.Alison wrote: ↑Tue Feb 21, 2023 2:23 pm Kate has done absolutely nothing all day. Like take a look at her ISO. She has contributed nothing townie the entirety of D2 and frankly the entirety of D1 as well. She is coasting by on being toneread as town by someone that knows her D1.
I don't want to vote her out today because I have bigger fish to fry. But please pay attention to her tomorrow, especially if you have KP.
She said vanilla WITH AN ABILITY. That's not what I said. The second part of her claim reminded me of that specific game that I literally just explained.Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Tue Feb 21, 2023 2:24 pmWhy would you assume that, when you yourself claimed vanilla?Kate wrote: ↑Tue Feb 21, 2023 2:20 pmEither a 3p or an ability that doesn't affect game play or does very slightly. One time I played a games, ages ago, where there was a video game of some sort that you could get chosen to play and IF you got the highest score you got some small reward. His comment reminded me of that game specifically.Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Tue Feb 21, 2023 1:45 pm@Kate Can you answer this? I see my mention failed the first time around.