Game of Champions 2022 mafia win lol

[Scotty]

This is stupid because svs is caught wolf and no one is listening.

[Golden]

Fuck off mac. Enough of you.

Please refrain from saying stuff like that. It kind of brings the mood of the game down. Take a break if you need to.

I do not agree that I am the problem here.

[falcon45ca]

Anyway, I’m voting rondo to meet your emotional need to know his alignment this very second. Fine with me. You might even be right. If you are svs is still a teammate.

Talk to me about your SVS read plz

[MacDougall]

Anyway, I’m voting rondo to meet your emotional need to know his alignment this very second. Fine with me. You might even be right. If you are svs is still a teammate.

I don't appreciate how you are treating me right now. I could attempt to injure your pride too, out of wounded ego and probably with more skill and tact but I feel it would be a bad idea so I'm refraining. Try to imagine the types of things I would say though. Like walk up to a mirror and insult yourself for me please.

[Golden]

Ffs mac someone needs to throw a shell at you.

Someone needs to stop antagonising me and stop being a fucking hypocrite actually.

You’re the one antagonising. You are literally wolf reading every single person who isn’t doing what you want. I’m not your slave.

Liar. I am wolfreading Alison for egregiously mischaracterising the nature of Rondo's play in order to defend him.

I am annoyed and sceptical of you and find your pleading to loyalty to be absurd given you didn't even give me the courtesy of reading my argument towards Rondo before attempting to undermine it.

Go back and read this interaction with a clear mind and apologise for calling me a fool.

I have a very clear mind. I was trying to get you out of your mood with rationality. You don’t want me to.

You have called me a fool and told me to fuck off. I've not been remotely as disrespectful as this. I'm playing mafia. What are you doing?

Also if you want to get me out of my mood with rationality, walking back your blatant disregard of my case and assessing it on its merits is a much more fruitful option.

I don’t have time to do that in the next short while.

[MacDougall]

Fuck off mac. Enough of you.

Please refrain from saying stuff like that. It kind of brings the mood of the game down. Take a break if you need to.

I do not agree that I am the problem here.

I am playing mafia and vociferously defending my point. I have crossed no lines and hurled zero personal insults. You have.

[Scotty]

Hey folks, just a gentle reminder to take a step back if the game is getting to you. No need to trade insults. I’m not the MoD this game; but am a MoD and would offer our wonderful mods as a venting place

Namaste

[MacDougall]

This is stupid because svs is caught wolf and no one is listening.

I'd love to be pointed at the part where it became apparent SVS is a caught wolf actually.

[Scotty]

Anyway, I think both SVS and rondo can be a hit. They don’t have to be mutually exclusive

[Urist]

@Dyslexicon I spoke on the sig-sabi fake derp thing earlier. I think that it's possible for the interaction to be orchestrated, but unlikely. I doubt that sig could really think that sabi is sabie if they're in discord together. And if it's a fake derp, it makes little sense for sabi herself to point it out and throw suspicion on sig for it.
All in all I think it's more likely that sabi was just looking for a contrived reason to suspect sig.

[Dyslexicon]

Anyway, I think both SVS and rondo can be a hit. They don’t have to be mutually exclusive

Yes.

[MacDougall]

Hey folks, just a gentle reminder to take a step back if the game is getting to you. No need to trade insults. I’m not the MoD this game; but am a MoD and would offer our wonderful mods as a venting place

Namaste

I'd just like to apologise...

to absolutely nobody!

The best town on MU 2022 does whatever the fuck he wants...

[Golden]

Anyway, I’m voting rondo to meet your emotional need to know his alignment this very second. Fine with me. You might even be right. If you are svs is still a teammate.

I don't appreciate how you are treating me right now. I could attempt to injure your pride too, out of wounded ego and probably with more skill and tact but I feel it would be a bad idea so I'm refraining. Try to imagine the types of things I would say though. Like walk up to a mirror and insult yourself for me please.

I don’t appreciate how you were treating me. That’s the point isn’t it, yeah fair enough to say I’ve given it back. But you constantly reject endeavours to talk rationally with emotive language… this isn’t just a me thing.

[MacDougall]

Anyway, I’m voting rondo to meet your emotional need to know his alignment this very second. Fine with me. You might even be right. If you are svs is still a teammate.

I don't appreciate how you are treating me right now. I could attempt to injure your pride too, out of wounded ego and probably with more skill and tact but I feel it would be a bad idea so I'm refraining. Try to imagine the types of things I would say though. Like walk up to a mirror and insult yourself for me please.

I don’t appreciate how you were treating me. That’s the point isn’t it, yeah fair enough to say I’ve given it back. But you constantly reject endeavours to talk rationally with emotive language… this isn’t just a me thing.

I'm sorry I used emotive language in a text based communication game. Forgive me I forgot to read the rule that said one must be a robot.

[falcon45ca]

Hey folks, just a gentle reminder to take a step back if the game is getting to you. No need to trade insults. I’m not the MoD this game; but am a MoD and would offer our wonderful mods as a venting place

Namaste

I'd just like to apologise...

to absolutely nobody!

The best town on MU 2022 does whatever the fuck he wants...

See, now this is funny

[Scotty]

This is stupid because svs is caught wolf and no one is listening.

I'd love to be pointed at the part where it became apparent SVS is a caught wolf actually.

As has been discussed, those that know civ SVS can see that a civ SVS would have more fire.

Is it damning that she isn’t doing civ SVS things here? No, it could very well be that she just doesn’t have the time and it’s throwing off people’s meta reads.

I won’t pretend to know SVS as well as any of the other old schoolers, but it makes sense if you look at the viewpoint of those that do.

Conversely? I don’t think anyone in this game is a caught wolf. Otherwise they’d have 20 votes on them

[Dyslexicon]

@Dyslexicon I spoke on the sig-sabi fake derp thing earlier. I think that it's possible for the interaction to be orchestrated, but unlikely. I doubt that sig could really think that sabi is sabie if they're in discord together. And if it's a fake derp, it makes little sense for sabi herself to point it out and throw suspicion on sig for it.
All in all I think it's more likely that sabi was just looking for a contrived reason to suspect sig.

Thank you for input. I guess it's always possible that it is a genuine derp, but still w/w. Sig's ISO did not spark joy. But not an option for today anyway. I'm just trying to sort through my unclears. Buuut, the derp thing maybe is just w/t with occam's razor

[falcon45ca]

Is SVS "caught wolf" simply a meta read?



@Golden

[Dyslexicon]

@MacDougall I think you're reacting in a big way to Alison's point about Rondo having a slapfight with you. I kind of got her point tbh, not that I entirely agree. But I could see how she would think that. And her characterisation of it is more a manner of speaking.

[MacDougall]

Anyway, I think both SVS and rondo can be a hit. They don’t have to be mutually exclusive

This is really obfuscating the point I was frustrated about but honestly the desperation with which it seems people need to process my behaviour as oriented towards protecting my ego vs. a desire to help town win a game and see through mistruths in the pursuit of said wincon has me arriving at a point with which I recognise that the game being won is not worth the tribulation that such things cause.

That is all to say Rondo is lock town y'all. Floundering and capitulating to a well made case is a fabulous reason to townread someone and Alison is a genius for realising that. I am voting on the wrong pusy.

[Dyslexicon]

I want to say this: If Sig flips mafia, Golden is very likely a teammate. Please remember this.

[Dyslexicon]

[VOTE: Seanzie] aubergine

[Golden]

Is SVS "caught wolf" simply a meta read?



@Golden

Yeah, just me being exaggerative.

[falcon45ca]

Anyway, I think both SVS and rondo can be a hit. They don’t have to be mutually exclusive

This is really obfuscating the point I was frustrated about but honestly the desperation with which it seems people need to process my behaviour as oriented towards protecting my ego vs. a desire to help town win a game and see through mistruths in the pursuit of said wincon has me arriving at a point with which I recognise that the game being won is not worth the tribulation that such things cause.

That is all to say Rondo is lock town y'all. Floundering and capitulating to a well made case is a fabulous reason to townread someone and Alison is a genius for realising that. I am voting on the wrong pusy.

Does anyone have a sarcasm meter?




Mine's broken

[MacDougall]

This is stupid because svs is caught wolf and no one is listening.

I'd love to be pointed at the part where it became apparent SVS is a caught wolf actually.

As has been discussed, those that know civ SVS can see that a civ SVS would have more fire.

Is it damning that she isn’t doing civ SVS things here? No, it could very well be that she just doesn’t have the time and it’s throwing off people’s meta reads.

I won’t pretend to know SVS as well as any of the other old schoolers, but it makes sense if you look at the viewpoint of those that do.

Conversely? I don’t think anyone in this game is a caught wolf. Otherwise they’d have 20 votes on them

No you're right Scotty. I'm sorry I didn't see it before. I should ignore all of my own cases and arbitrarily vote on someone because they lack "civ fire". That's it right there. The slam dunk obvious mafia we've been looking for.

Thank you for showing me the light.

[Kate]

Ffs mac someone needs to throw a shell at you.

Someone needs to stop antagonising me and stop being a fucking hypocrite actually.

Use your nice words.

[MacDougall]

@MacDougall I think you're reacting in a big way to Alison's point about Rondo having a slapfight with you. I kind of got her point tbh, not that I entirely agree. But I could see how she would think that. And her characterisation of it is more a manner of speaking.

Explain to me like I'm 5 how you can get her point but not agree. Please.

[Dyslexicon]

You're all pusies to me tbh

[falcon45ca]

Is SVS "caught wolf" simply a meta read?



@Golden

Yeah, just me being exaggerative.

Talk to me about this meta...they just don't have enough towny fire?



You had specific reasons for TR Kate, so I imagine you have some for SR SVS, no?

[nutella]

I have no idea why I wrote SVS pusy. That is ... an interesting autocorrect to say the least.

I'm sure the purity of the pusy is in tact. Need to be clear on this.

page was boring until this

[MacDougall]

Ffs mac someone needs to throw a shell at you.

Someone needs to stop antagonising me and stop being a fucking hypocrite actually.

Use your nice words.

Maybe spare me and direct this at the person who called me a fool amid other personal insults rather than reprimanding me for saying a word 90% of western homes say when they run out of milk and forgot to get some hmmm [imagine personal insult goes here].

[Golden]

Mac, I do apologise for the tone I take with you. I take it often and just assume you in particular can take it and aren’t phased, but it is unfair.

[Creature]

Oh welp this is annoying

[MacDougall]

Mac, I do apologise for the tone I take with you. I take it often and just assume you in particular can take it and aren’t phased, but it is unfair.

The only reason that it is unfair is that if I were baited into replying in kind I would be the one held up as the emotional maniac and rissoled for it. I would take it with fine humour if I was able to reciprocate with the full power of my arsenal of Australian insults.

[Dyslexicon]

@MacDougall I think you're reacting in a big way to Alison's point about Rondo having a slapfight with you. I kind of got her point tbh, not that I entirely agree. But I could see how she would think that. And her characterisation of it is more a manner of speaking.

Explain to me like I'm 5 how you can get her point but not agree. Please.

Hi, little Mac! I wub you! Let mommy explain something to you! I think her point was that Rondo "picked a fight with you" and that it makes him look bad if Seanzie is mafia KP, because it would be a way to distract away from Sean. I could see Alison thinking this, because I think she assumes everyone is playing in a strategical, planned out and optimal way. Which I think is very far from the truth. I think most people do random stuff and that things just happen. We are people, not machines. So I don't agree that Rondo had any specific purpose getting into a fight with you, and I think that Rondo didn't really have a choice to in the first place. He's playing a game, and suddenly he was in a fight with you. Does that make sense?

[Scotty]

Ok well, I’m only voting mac if 2 others with wagons are also voting there. Otherwise it won’t work.

I still think that’s a great town-sided play, but it requires participation from the players so nah humbug

[VOTE: Rondo] aubergine

[Creature]

I think Mac's a wolf but I'll give him the chance to lynch a wolf today incase he is town or bussing wolf.

[VOTE: RondoDimBuckle] aubergine

[Creature]

Mac pushing Seanzie and me though is a bad look.

[Dyslexicon]

We don't do insults anymore. It's just not cool.

[MacDougall]

Also apologise not for the tone, that is the nature of mafia. The content is the part that crosses the line not the heightened emotive tone.

Also thank you for addressing it and I apologise if I accidentally tickled your pusy.

[Golden]

Is SVS "caught wolf" simply a meta read?



@Golden

Yeah, just me being exaggerative.

Talk to me about this meta...they just don't have enough towny fire?



You had specific reasons for TR Kate, so I imagine you have some for SR SVS, no?

Town SVS would generally be jumping at the shadow of wolves in her wagon, omgusing hard, and independently hunting as well. She’s been claiming catch ups but hasn’t even really been creating much content out of that.

[Urist]

votecount

Spoiler: show

RondoDimBuckle
8
21%


Voters: Sloonei, falcon45ca, Golden, Seanzie, MacDougall, Scotty, RondoDimBuckle, EnderWiggin

S~V~S
3
8%


Voters: Urist, sig, Kate

Scotty
4
11%


Voters: hollowkatt, Creature, Marmot, Party Crasher

Seanzie
7
18%


Voters: Dyslexicon, nutella, Neon, Alison, Michelle, Lilypetal, Porscha

[Creature]

Do we have enough KP to kill like 7-8 wolves alive?

[MacDougall]

@MacDougall I think you're reacting in a big way to Alison's point about Rondo having a slapfight with you. I kind of got her point tbh, not that I entirely agree. But I could see how she would think that. And her characterisation of it is more a manner of speaking.

Explain to me like I'm 5 how you can get her point but not agree. Please.

Hi, little Mac! I wub you! Let mommy explain something to you! I think her point was that Rondo "picked a fight with you" and that it makes him look bad if Seanzie is mafia KP, because it would be a way to distract away from Sean. I could see Alison thinking this, because I think she assumes everyone is playing in a strategical, planned out and optimal way. Which I think is very far from the truth. I think most people do random stuff and that things just happen. We are people, not machines. So I don't agree that Rondo had any specific purpose getting into a fight with you, and I think that Rondo didn't really have a choice to in the first place. He's playing a game, and suddenly he was in a fight with you. Does that make sense?

You are correct in describing the reality of what occurred.

I still don't understand how you can deduce that Alison analysing it the way that she did wasn't in bad faith. That seems overly generous to me.

[Urist]

let the record show that i tried to work with golden but he decided he didn't want to vote with me on SVS

[MacDougall]

Mac pushing Seanzie and me though is a bad look.

Why is pushing Seanzie and you a bad look Creatus?

[Scotty]

I think Mac's a wolf but I'll give him the chance to lynch a wolf today incase he is town or bussing wolf.

[VOTE: RondoDimBuckle] aubergine

[Golden]

If Sean lets the town control his vig kills but he's wolf, that's still advantageous. I don't understand the drive to kill Seanzie with immediacy when we have a known mechanical basis to test him.

For me, I'd reach a consensus on who Sean should shoot and policy elim him if he refused, given he's been asking the town all day who he should shoot.

My gosh. I really don't like the weasel like manner that you and Alison are trying to undermine my wagons.

I do object to being called a weasel, btw.

[MacDougall]

Do we have enough KP to kill like 7-8 wolves alive?

Maybe if wolves vote for me.

[Golden]

If you think I’m a wolf, call it wolfy.