Game of Champions 2022 mafia win lol

[Master Radishes]

Okay this is a weird exercise, please just ignore.

Spoiler: show

1 MR is the player with the most experience with 112 and has been non stop tunneling him.

2 112 has mostly been presenting an unwavering townread in spite of this. Except for briefly when noticing Nutella questioning MR saying he actually too was sus but then going nowhere with it and returning back to townreading him.

3 MR is very towny.

4 112 is townreading MR because he feels there is an absence of wolf agenda in his tunneling Rondo. That it wouldn't make sense for wolf MR to play into town 112 this way.

What makes more sense?

Town 112 habing an unwavering generous townread on the person who reads her best who would be reading him wrong because of point 4.

Wolf 112 recognising the person with the best read on her has immediately caught him and had decided non violent ignorance and blowing smoke up his ass is the only way to deal with it. And opportunistically amplifying suspicion on MR when he feels he can get away with it.

Lmao I'm so egocentric this actually made it make so much more sense.

[RondoDimBuckle]

If Sean lets the town control his vig kills but he's wolf, that's still advantageous. I don't understand the drive to kill Seanzie with immediacy when we have a known mechanical basis to test him.

For me, I'd reach a consensus on who Sean should shoot and policy elim him if he refused, given he's been asking the town all day who he should shoot.

My gosh. I really don't like the weasel like manner that you and Alison are trying to undermine my wagons.

Do you feel it's nefarious in nature? Are they both aligned w/ Rondo? (w/w/w)

There is ZERO chance Alison saves me here as wolf unless its to pocket me till end game. Golden jumping in as well is ZERO chance they are w/w unless one of them is lost

[Michelle]

Allow me to summarise again.

Rondo presently has Ender lock town. Ender has had Rondo as lock mafia since essentially the game began. Rondo has mostly ignored Ender intentionally and admittedly and when I've asked why he said it's because he thinks Ender is town because as a wolf he has no benefit to locking himself into scumreading Rondo out of the gate. So he is townreading him for something Ender did at the start of the game despite Ender, someone whom Rondo should trust to have a good read on him, non stop tunneling Rondo all game.

Further Rondo stated at the beginning of day 2 when he observed Nutella start to question Ender that he actually began to suspect Ender too overnight and wanted to observe day 2 before pursuing it further. Ender's day 2 proceeded to be more non stop burial of Rondo.

The question is on probability...

Is Rondo a wolf whose behavior is that of a wolf who knows he cannot bullshit Ender who saw right through him. So he's mostly just letting Ender spin around and focusing attention elsewhere hoping nobody notices Ender is right. Who when presented with an opportunity to discredit Ender took it.

Or is he a town who lock town reads someone non stop tunneling him who has a better understanding of Rondo than anyone else in all of mafia (they are personal irl friends), who was reaction testing Nutella with the Ender push, or had temporary doubt on it, but has been persuaded to go back to lock townreading Ender after further persistent tunneling.

To me one is plainly viable and the other is ... plausible but doesn't make a great deal of sense.

I rest my case goodnight.

@Michelle @Master Radishes

[VOTE: Rondo] aubergine

[Dyslexicon]

[VOTE: Seanzie] aubergine

I don't plan to end here, but this will let people see what the wagons actually look like.

Rondo isn't self voting anymore

[Party Crasher]

Just so y'all are aware, you should see the wagons as 8-6 Seanzie-Rondo, due to Rondo's placement.

i yolo townread seanzie for this post

-tutuu

Tutuu why tutuu

it seems like he's resigned to dying but trying to help us rather than trying to persuade us

[Creature]

[VOTE: S~V~S] aubergine

[Seanzie]

Just so y'all are aware, you should see the wagons as 8-6 Seanzie-Rondo, due to Rondo's placement.

i yolo townread seanzie for this post

-tutuu

Tutuu why tutuu

Dizzy why Dizzy

[RondoDimBuckle]

Just so y'all are aware, you should see the wagons as 8-6 Seanzie-Rondo, due to Rondo's placement.

I said earlier I am not self presing onto you. Im not going to

[112]

Friends, I adore your spirit but as with all things the only true path to victory is with love, not hate. We must suppress our hunger for chaos and replace it with a warm embrace. It is time to set aside our differences, to be tolerant and approach one another with care and concern for we are all united as one by this wonderful game and should celebrate our unity by playing firm, but fair, and important mindful of causing pain to your fellow mafia player.

See, this is a wolfy pop-in, and the kind of thing I'd expect from 112 trying to enter the game w/ limited time IRL.



Excellent VK candidate IMO

you're making no sense so an additional read i'll give (not like i haven't shared other reads before you requested i share some so idk what your point is with these posts) is that you're wolfing

[Michelle]

VC

Spoiler: show

RondoDimBuckle
8
21%
Voters: Sloonei, falcon45ca, Party Crasher, MacDougall, Scotty, EnderWiggin, Creature, Michelle
S~V~S
5
13%
Voters: RondoDimBuckle, Urist, sig, Golden, Kate
Scotty
2
5%
Voters: hollowkatt, Marmot
Seanzie
8
21%
Voters: Master Radishes, nutella, Neon, Alison, Dyslexicon, Seanzie, Lilypetal, Porscha
sig
1
3%
Voters: DrWilgy

[Dyslexicon]

Just so y'all are aware, you should see the wagons as 8-6 Seanzie-Rondo, due to Rondo's placement.

i yolo townread seanzie for this post

-tutuu

Tutuu why tutuu

Dizzy why Dizzy

Sean why Sean

If you are town here, why Sean, you have not been very helpful Sean

[Seanzie]

[VOTE: Seanzie] aubergine

I don't plan to end here, but this will let people see what the wagons actually look like.

Rondo isn't self voting anymore

Oh.

[VOTE: SVS] aubergine

Okay same thing

[Master Radishes]

Just so y'all are aware, you should see the wagons as 8-6 Seanzie-Rondo, due to Rondo's placement.

i yolo townread seanzie for this post

-tutuu

Tutuu why tutuu

Everyone asks why tutuu, but no one asks how's tutuu.

[RondoDimBuckle]

[VOTE: Macdougall] aubergine

@RondoDimBuckle @Marmot @Seanzie @S~V~S

Get in here! Let’s have a slumber party at Mac’s!

I think all the

Unless someone has a mech reason to vote him no

[Seanzie]

Just so y'all are aware, you should see the wagons as 8-6 Seanzie-Rondo, due to Rondo's placement.

i yolo townread seanzie for this post

-tutuu

Tutuu why tutuu

Dizzy why Dizzy

Sean why Sean

If you are town here, why Sean, you have not been very helpful Sean

Meh, I've been trying.

[Dyslexicon]

Nice I got my tied wagons

[Master Radishes]

Friends, I adore your spirit but as with all things the only true path to victory is with love, not hate. We must suppress our hunger for chaos and replace it with a warm embrace. It is time to set aside our differences, to be tolerant and approach one another with care and concern for we are all united as one by this wonderful game and should celebrate our unity by playing firm, but fair, and important mindful of causing pain to your fellow mafia player.

See, this is a wolfy pop-in, and the kind of thing I'd expect from 112 trying to enter the game w/ limited time IRL.



Excellent VK candidate IMO

you're making no sense so an additional read i'll give (not like i haven't shared other reads before you requested i share some so idk what your point is with these posts) is that you're wolfing

Pretty sure Falcon isn't wolfing here tbh.

[Seanzie]

7-7-7

Something something wagon formation something wolf

[Master Radishes]

Like I've always kind of struggled to read Falcon but he feels loose and carefree in a way he does when town.

[112]

[VOTE: rando] aubergine

[Urist]

votecount

Spoiler: show

RondoDimBuckle
7
18%


Voters: Sloonei, falcon45ca, Party Crasher, MacDougall, Scotty, Michelle, EnderWiggin

S~V~S
7
18%


Voters: RondoDimBuckle, Urist, Seanzie, Creature, sig, Golden, Kate

Scotty
2
5%


Voters: hollowkatt, Marmot

Seanzie
7
18%


Voters: Master Radishes, nutella, Neon, Alison, Dyslexicon, Lilypetal, Porscha

[RondoDimBuckle]

[VOTE: Rondo] aubergine

If Rondo is mafia, Kate, Scotty, Golden and Alison have all decided to make themselves viable teammates.

Lucky for them I am going to flip green. Which also makes you wonder why they would go against god read best town mu mac to defend me

[falcon45ca]

Friends, I adore your spirit but as with all things the only true path to victory is with love, not hate. We must suppress our hunger for chaos and replace it with a warm embrace. It is time to set aside our differences, to be tolerant and approach one another with care and concern for we are all united as one by this wonderful game and should celebrate our unity by playing firm, but fair, and important mindful of causing pain to your fellow mafia player.

See, this is a wolfy pop-in, and the kind of thing I'd expect from 112 trying to enter the game w/ limited time IRL.



Excellent VK candidate IMO

you're making no sense so an additional read i'll give (not like i haven't shared other reads before you requested i share some so idk what your point is with these posts) is that you're wolfing

Push my wagon.




This is twice now you've called me a wolf, show us you truly belief that

[Creature]

Alison and Mac might be wolves together and in that case we're pretty screwed.

[112]

Friends, I adore your spirit but as with all things the only true path to victory is with love, not hate. We must suppress our hunger for chaos and replace it with a warm embrace. It is time to set aside our differences, to be tolerant and approach one another with care and concern for we are all united as one by this wonderful game and should celebrate our unity by playing firm, but fair, and important mindful of causing pain to your fellow mafia player.

See, this is a wolfy pop-in, and the kind of thing I'd expect from 112 trying to enter the game w/ limited time IRL.



Excellent VK candidate IMO

you're making no sense so an additional read i'll give (not like i haven't shared other reads before you requested i share some so idk what your point is with these posts) is that you're wolfing

Pretty sure Falcon isn't wolfing here tbh.

yeh okay i'll consider that but you have to tell him that his odd push against me does not compute using your fancy teacher english

[Dyslexicon]

[VOTE: SVS] aubergine

[RondoDimBuckle]

Explain to me why Rondo is the correct wagon and why Golden's opposition to it feels odd.

Explain to me how to catch pokemon Dr Professor Oak

[Master Radishes]

Friends, I adore your spirit but as with all things the only true path to victory is with love, not hate. We must suppress our hunger for chaos and replace it with a warm embrace. It is time to set aside our differences, to be tolerant and approach one another with care and concern for we are all united as one by this wonderful game and should celebrate our unity by playing firm, but fair, and important mindful of causing pain to your fellow mafia player.

See, this is a wolfy pop-in, and the kind of thing I'd expect from 112 trying to enter the game w/ limited time IRL.



Excellent VK candidate IMO

you're making no sense so an additional read i'll give (not like i haven't shared other reads before you requested i share some so idk what your point is with these posts) is that you're wolfing

Push my wagon.




This is twice now you've called me a wolf, show us you truly belief that

112 called me a wolf earlier too. We can console each other.

[Creature]

I thought town!Seanzie would care a lot more about being wagoned as a town strongman vig.

[112]

Friends, I adore your spirit but as with all things the only true path to victory is with love, not hate. We must suppress our hunger for chaos and replace it with a warm embrace. It is time to set aside our differences, to be tolerant and approach one another with care and concern for we are all united as one by this wonderful game and should celebrate our unity by playing firm, but fair, and important mindful of causing pain to your fellow mafia player.

See, this is a wolfy pop-in, and the kind of thing I'd expect from 112 trying to enter the game w/ limited time IRL.



Excellent VK candidate IMO

you're making no sense so an additional read i'll give (not like i haven't shared other reads before you requested i share some so idk what your point is with these posts) is that you're wolfing

Push my wagon.




This is twice now you've called me a wolf, show us you truly belief that

why would i vote for someone with 0 votes on them at this point in the contest?

[Creature]

112 kinda disappeared but meh 112 could be just town LHF.

[falcon45ca]

Friends, I adore your spirit but as with all things the only true path to victory is with love, not hate. We must suppress our hunger for chaos and replace it with a warm embrace. It is time to set aside our differences, to be tolerant and approach one another with care and concern for we are all united as one by this wonderful game and should celebrate our unity by playing firm, but fair, and important mindful of causing pain to your fellow mafia player.

See, this is a wolfy pop-in, and the kind of thing I'd expect from 112 trying to enter the game w/ limited time IRL.



Excellent VK candidate IMO

you're making no sense so an additional read i'll give (not like i haven't shared other reads before you requested i share some so idk what your point is with these posts) is that you're wolfing

Push my wagon.




This is twice now you've called me a wolf, show us you truly belief that

112 called me a wolf earlier too. We can console each other.

[Party Crasher]

my vote is spiritually on mac but unfortunately the rest of my hydra thinks he's gorgeous and want his autograph

[RondoDimBuckle]

Alison characterising my burial of Rondo and his floundering defense as a 1v1 slapfight in which Rondo attempted to bait my vote is utterly egregious and she is now in my scumreads.

Golden attempting to undermine it as even being the main counterwagon is less egregious but equally infuriating and still suspicious.

Kate globbing onto Alison's baseless defense of Rondo predicated on falsehoods is egregious and Kate is also the recipient of a 2 day hall pass granted by Golden she does not deserve.

The wolf dynamic inside of these 3 is off the charts right now. I don't even care about Alison pushing Kate because the way Kate shielded Rondo off the back of Alison doing the same was so scummy it would be a compulsive reaction by Alison to do it.

And Golden failing to comment on it is a bad look too.

Hate all 3 of you. Give me my ball back I'm going home.

What if all three of them are wolf and are taking this opportunity to discredit you and make you look bad after they change their minds anyway to vote me and then flip green and tomorrow call for your powerwolfing blood?

[Dyslexicon]

Meanwhile Marmot is crying in wolf chat

[Master Radishes]

I thought town!Seanzie would care a lot more about being wagoned as a town strongman vig.

Do you have experience with Seanzie in both metas? I'm sort of realising I don't but also that this doesn't feel like the one wolf!Seanzie I remember.

[Creature]

I have no idea on SVS. What makes them a wolf and not just LHF town?

[MacDougall]

Alison and Mac might be wolves together and in that case we're pretty screwed.

Christ on a bike

[Scotty]

Meanwhile Marmot is crying in wolf chat

I’m not pursuing this atm but let it reflect that if marmot is wolf so is nutella

[Master Radishes]

112 kinda disappeared but meh 112 could be just town LHF.

112 hasn't made enough posts yet to truly determine her alignment tbh.

[112]

112 kinda disappeared but meh 112 could be just town LHF.

the reason is that someone smashed the computers on my unit in the "healing centre" at which i'm interned

Creature has a lot of posts for someone who doesn't know this

[Dyslexicon]

I have no idea on SVS. What makes them a wolf and not just LHF town?

People who know her meta are wolf reading her

[Master Radishes]

Alison and Mac might be wolves together and in that case we're pretty screwed.

Christ on a bike

I mean surely that screams Creature is town if anything does.

[MacDougall]

@Master Radishes you pulled up at the part where you're supposed to arrive at a conclusion

[RondoDimBuckle]

I'm going to assume Rondo and Seanzie are the frontrunner options today and that's where I should focus if I want to do anything useful.

could both Seanzie and I be town?

[Creature]

I think Mac's either right on Rondo being a wolf or a wolf pushing the Rondo mislynch. Idk how to figure out this and I hope it doesn't become too late for town if Rondo happens to be a miss.

[112]

112 kinda disappeared but meh 112 could be just town LHF.

112 hasn't made enough posts yet to truly determine her alignment tbh.

[MacDougall]

Alison and Mac might be wolves together and in that case we're pretty screwed.

Christ on a bike

I mean surely that screams Creature is town if anything does.

Yeahh he's definitely not pack mafia.

[Scotty]

I have no idea on SVS. What makes them a wolf and not just LHF town?

In all the games I’ve played with SVS, I’ve never heard her called LHF. That’s not who SVS is, historically.

So that in and of itself is concerning

[RondoDimBuckle]

If you have not please read the posts from here

https://mafiathesyndicate.com/viewtopic ... 0#p1015411

Don't be persuaded that it's nothing but a slapfight or tvt violence like Golden and Alison for some reason are trying to promote. It is far from it. @nutella agrees. Rondo looks horrible from it and the case making was good.

I disagree naturally but go on