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#951

Dom, who is your biggest suspect? Is it Made?

And re: Made, how confident are you feeling in believing he's bad? You and I both know he's been lynched relatively early in practically every game he's played so far, so what do you think?

And what do you make of Snowy vouching so hard for him?

#952

Who was the victim of the cargo drop?

You may select 1 option

Ambray
0
No votes

Black Rock
0
No votes

Boogs
0
No votes

DFaraday
0
No votes

Dom
0
No votes

fingersplints
0
No votes

Kate
0
No votes

Long Con
1
MovingPictures07 (2)
20%

Made
0
No votes

Mister Rearranger
1
Mister Rearranger (4)
20%

MovingPictures07
0
No votes

Roxy
0
No votes

sabie12
0
No votes

Simon
1
DFaraday (5)
20%

Snow Dog
0
No votes

Tink
0
No votes

Um...the Cargo? (The Host, the Non, the Dead)
2
Epignosis (1), Bass_the_Clever (3)
40%

Total votes : 5

#953

Night 4

“Chick Hicks is at it again, Bob. He’s up on the track- look at him!”

“I wonder what he has planned this time Darrell.”

“Looks like he’s headed for - Woah! fingersplints has been knocked out of her pit!”

fingersplints has been killed.

It is now Day 5. You have 24 hours to lynch someone.

#954

Three votes in the Night poll?

Do you guys really think this stuff doesn't matter?

#955

RIPIYWG splints,.

I'll probably vote LC, but I am willing to consider Made and Ambray, and discuss as much as possible.

#956

I will admit it is very strange to me how Made was in danger of getting lynched yesterday and yet there was a Hedgeowl bandwagon. Not sure what to make of it though.

#957

LC and Made were both players I made note of when discussing Hedge and Simon's interaction.

Certainly makes me wonder about Made, but Snow was adamant in defending him yesterday. BR vs. LC is intriguing too.

#958

I wonder about Made too, but I considered Snow's intensity of defense, as well as the fact that Made has been reading genuine to me, for the most part, despite his occasional contradictions.

Do you think Snowy would defend a teammate like that, MR?

#959

My thoughts exactly, re: all of that.

I don't know that Snow would do something like that, unless some kind of manipulation or gambit was going on. But I'm always hesitant to overcomplicate my thought process when it comes to those kind of possibilities.

#960

Do I think he'd do it to a straight-up baddie teammate though? Nope, doubt it.

#961

Thanks! Fair enough. I think I agree. MR, if you had to vote someone right now, who would it be and why?

#962

Aww bummer splints! htagwsyrtlmyw!

I am also still looking at Ambray.

I would like to hear from everyone this lynch. There are dead players who have more posts than live ones. I am not asking much just your suspicions for this lynch.

#963

Agreed, Rox, I don't know where a lot of players stand at this point.

I could be swayed to an Ambray vote, but I'm really afraid of being manipulated, and I'm not sure she's bad just yet. I just have doubts that she's good at this point. She did support my thoughts on FZ. and Bass, and was the first to make the observation against Blooper on D1, but hasn't contributed much else of anything.

#964

MovingPictures07 wrote:Dom, who is your biggest suspect? Is it Made?

And re: Made, how confident are you feeling in believing he's bad? You and I both know he's been lynched relatively early in practically every game he's played so far, so what do you think?

And what do you make of Snowy vouching so hard for him?

Yes.

I think Snow Dog is either bad or is hugely misguided, but I have no idea either way.

I think Made is bad bad bad

#965

Dom wrote:
MovingPictures07 wrote:Dom, who is your biggest suspect? Is it Made?

And re: Made, how confident are you feeling in believing he's bad? You and I both know he's been lynched relatively early in practically every game he's played so far, so what do you think?

And what do you make of Snowy vouching so hard for him?
Yes.

I think Snow Dog is either bad or is hugely misguided, but I have no idea either way.

I think Made is bad bad bad

I'll consider your viewpoint then. He has made a few contradictions/odd statements, for sure.

#966

MovingPictures07 wrote:
Dom wrote:
MovingPictures07 wrote:Dom, who is your biggest suspect? Is it Made?

And re: Made, how confident are you feeling in believing he's bad? You and I both know he's been lynched relatively early in practically every game he's played so far, so what do you think?

And what do you make of Snowy vouching so hard for him?
Yes.

I think Snow Dog is either bad or is hugely misguided, but I have no idea either way.

I think Made is bad bad bad

I'll consider your viewpoint then. He has made a few contradictions/odd statements, for sure.

Someone apparently switched the lynch, even though there are no lynch switches in the roles. It's unlikely that a civvie would use a lynch switch to save someone they weren't sure of to kill someone they also weren't sure of. We know that Guido Professor Z, and the British Intel have secrets, so it's possible that one of the above is civ and made the switch.

It's possible that SD and Made are both British Intel in that case, but if they did have a role switch, Hedge seems an odd choice for it. It's equally possible that they are both bad, and either won a prize or the Professor's ability had something to do with it. I'm going to review Ambray and see if she has had interactions with Snowy. If so, that can perhaps give us insight into the relationship between the three.

#967

Errata: Above I meant "Guido COMMA Professor Z" and lynch switch instead of role switch.

#968

Wait, what?

Hedge got 4 votes, Made and MR got 2, so it didn't get switched -- but the votes for Hedge came in at the last minute.

Or am I missing something?

#969

Um... was hedgeowl on the poll?

http://www.mafiathesyndicate.com/viewto ... 81#p101581

#970

Look above it one post. That was the N4 poll.

#971

That's what I get for skimming past the posts before the actual lynch.

I left when Made had a couple of votes, came back and saw that Hedge was lynched and for some reason thought it was a switch.

In THAT case it definitely looks like a save to me, and I'm inclined to lean baddie on Made and quite possibly Snowy.

#972

And here I thought I was being helpful for once.

#973

LOL, no worries, DF.

You think Snowy would really defend a baddie teammate that hard?

#974

MovingPictures07 wrote:LOL, no worries, DF.

You think Snowy would really defend a baddie teammate that hard?

I think that gets into WIFOM territory, but I would feel more strongly about him if we knew Made's alignment. Any case on Snowy depends on Made at the moment, at least in my view.

#975

MovingPictures07 wrote:Wait, what?

Hedge got 4 votes, Made and MR got 2, so it didn't get switched -- but the votes for Hedge came in at the last minute.

Or am I missing something?

Yeah, quite honestly, I thought the lynch was switched till I checked back.

Anyways, as people are asking for people to speak up, I think we should look at tink. I know this is their first game, but they just seem so focused and agressive for oppertunistic reasons, their second vote for snow especially

I Don't remember if it was DF or BR but I got a ping after Dom said something to the effect of "made suxs" and above person quickly followed with agreeance. given that post was ping sorta worth because it was an objective inaccurate read, but the strongest arguement against me (imo, bass') hadn't been made yet. A quick vote because of bass makes more sense to me than a quick vote because of Dom. I'm pretty sure they didnt change their vote so it's a click away for people not on cellphones.

Any specific questions or things anyone has for me, didn't catch anything directed towards me reading

Also, robotics is done (didn't place

), flying back home tomorrow, so ill check in when I can.

#976

DFaraday wrote:I'm not going to be back before the poll closes, so I'll just go ahead and vote Made because his comment about Dom was both inaccurate and seemed like he was attempting to instigate suspicion of Dom.

^ here we go

While my read was inaccurate, it was an attempt to get conversation started. So Doms reaction makes sense (I'm persecuting him in honestly) DF's had reaction is a bit shocking considering that he doesn't have a solid civvie read on Dom.

#977

DFaraday wrote:
Made wrote:
Bass_the_Clever wrote:Well I guess I voting snow dog. I think everyone who is voting for me needs to be looked at next lynch.
the first part of this one isn't a no you, but a save. The second part, however i'd consider a no u.

Boogs wrote:
MovingPictures07 wrote:Switched my vote to Boogs for now since BWT showed up. Here's hoping it gets Boogs to talk.
I've expressed I would be busy this week being out of town already Sockman. I will swap my vote to you also in return

DFaraday wrote:I'm not going to be back before the poll closes, so I'll just go ahead and vote Made because his comment about Dom was both inaccurate and seemed like he was attempting to instigate suspicion of Dom.
not a no u, but imo fits the spirit of no u: voting for even considering that someone is mafia.

Alright, really tho gtg, night y'all

I wasn't voting you for considering that Dom might be Mafia. He may very well be for all I know.The reason I thought it was suspicious is because it struck me as trying to push suspicion on Dom based on a shaky premise (Dom being aloof). I wasn't trying to get you lynched, but what you said just pinged me more than anything Bass had done, especially given that FZ turned out to be civvie.

As for SD, I haven't really processed him this game, so I need to review him before I get a real impression of him.

evidence of a lack of a strong civve read on Dom in bold

#978

Made, I never had a strong civvie read on Dom. I hadn't voted for you because I thought Dom was civvie, but rather because your case seemed strained to me, like an attempt to drum up suspicion. I wasn't defending Dom, as you seem to be suggesting, I simply needed to put a vote somewhere before I left, and the manner of your post pinged me.

#979

Epignosis wrote:Three votes in the Night poll?

Do you guys really think this stuff doesn't matter?

Yeah sorry. don't know how I forgot. Drunk and tired I guess. Won't happen again.

#980

My post was ignored earlier btw. I'd still like some answers.

#981

MP: Were I able to give a single answer, I'd place my vote already lol. I don't really have anyone I want to prompt action on right now. I tried that with Hedge yesterday and it backfired entirely when A: I was never able to get back in time and B: When I did get home post-poll, I noticed that at least 3 other players had hopped on to vote for her rather quickly. Really baffles me to see that her name's not listed in the poll thread now, as LC indicated.

Hostseseseses: Was the omission of Hedge's name and vote record from yesterday's poll recap intentional?

I could have easily answered your question with LC's name, based mainly on Day 1 and 2 posts and interactions with the now dead. But I'm thinking a couple of things (including this odd situation with Hedge's death) demand a closer examination.

Snow Dog wrote:My post was ignored earlier btw. I'd still like some answers.

To your question about Simon? I mean, I could see both sides to a host either making or refusing to make a first-time player bad. On one hand, baddie roles sometimes demand more involvement, and there's the whole thrown into a random social chat setting.

On the other hand, it might seem like a good idea to place a new player within a team, if only for the added support of teammates and an easy way to introduce the player to group of new players in a casual way.

I learned through my introduction in Dexter that being a studious new player can backfire when people assume you're coached. I don't like that assumption and, along the same lines, I don't automatically assume that a new player is good just because they are silent or saying typically rookie things.

Simon was the other side of the coin when it came to my interest in Hedge. His question and the subsequent endorsements of it have me feeling like a baddie is among that group. He is certainly not to be left out of that grouping.

#982

Mister Rearranger wrote:MP: Were I able to give a single answer, I'd place my vote already lol. I don't really have anyone I want to prompt action on right now. I tried that with Hedge yesterday and it backfired entirely when A: I was never able to get back in time and B: When I did get home post-poll, I noticed that at least 3 other players had hopped on to vote for her rather quickly. Really baffles me to see that her name's not listed in the poll thread now, as LC indicated.

Hostseseseses: Was the omission of Hedge's name and vote record from yesterday's poll recap intentional?

I could have easily answered your question with LC's name, based mainly on Day 1 and 2 posts and interactions with the now dead. But I'm thinking a couple of things (including this odd situation with Hedge's death) demand a closer examination.

Snow Dog wrote:My post was ignored earlier btw. I'd still like some answers.
To your question about Simon? I mean, I could see both sides to a host either making or refusing to make a first-time player bad. On one hand, baddie roles sometimes demand more involvement, and there's the whole thrown into a random social chat setting.

On the other hand, it might seem like a good idea to place a new player within a team, if only for the added support of teammates and an easy way to introduce the player to group of new players in a casual way.

I learned through my introduction in Dexter that being a studious new player can backfire when people assume you're coached. I don't like that assumption and, along the same lines, I don't automatically assume that a new player is good just because they are silent or saying typically rookie things.

Simon was the other side of the coin when it came to my interest in Hedge. His question and the subsequent endorsements of it have me feeling like a baddie is among that group. He is certainly not to be left out of that grouping.

That is not what I meant and this is not his first game. He was civ the first time I recall. No my question was about the FZ lynch. I will requote.

#983

Snow Dog wrote:I agree MP. Far too many low posters. But certainly at least one medium to high poster must be bad I reckon.

Look at the Bass lynch. Only three people got votes. Bass, Made and me. Now Bass was civ (unless a seamer) I am claiming civness, and I am certain made is civ. That means, if you can believe what I said, that no badddies received a vote. With that in mind where do you think mafia would have voted?

Snow Dog wrote:^even if you don't wish to believe me, just pretend it's true for this exercise and indulge me.

#984

Sorry. I meant the bass lynch

Bass_the_Clever
8
Ambray (9), Snow Dog (10), birdwithteeth11 (11), Made (12), Simon (15), MovingPictures07 (16), Black Rock (18), Long Con (19)
42%

Made
3
Dom (4), DFaraday (6), Hedgeowl (17)
16%

Snow Dog
4
Mister Rearranger (7), Tink (8), Boogs (13), Bass_the_Clever (14)
21%

#985

#986

fingersplints wrote: me

#987

Snow Dog wrote:Sorry. I meant the bass lynch

Bass_the_Clever
8
Ambray (9), Snow Dog (10), birdwithteeth11 (11), Made (12), Simon (15), MovingPictures07 (16), Black Rock (18), Long Con (19)
42%

Made
3
Dom (4), DFaraday (6), Hedgeowl (17)
16%

Snow Dog
4
Mister Rearranger (7), Tink (8), Boogs (13), Bass_the_Clever (14)
21%

.

Depends imo.

I think a way to figure it out would be to read the front page for the roles that seem most dangerous to mafia. If base seems to be acting like that role, more votes probably went to them. Especially considering the switch from snow to bass.

Then again, another way to look at Is all the people who voted bass are quickly dying off. Only person to not vote bass and die so far was hedgie.

#988

Mister Rearranger wrote:Hostseseseses: Was the omission of Hedge's name and vote record from yesterday's poll recap intentional?

Eh?

Isn't Hedgeowl dead?

#989

Sorry I have been busy

I may need a replacement since I forgot the other game started i signed up for now too

I am so behind it isn't funny,

#990

Made wrote:
Snow Dog wrote:Sorry. I meant the bass lynch

Bass_the_Clever
8
Ambray (9), Snow Dog (10), birdwithteeth11 (11), Made (12), Simon (15), MovingPictures07 (16), Black Rock (18), Long Con (19)
42%

Made
3
Dom (4), DFaraday (6), Hedgeowl (17)
16%

Snow Dog
4
Mister Rearranger (7), Tink (8), Boogs (13), Bass_the_Clever (14)
21%
.

Depends imo.

I think a way to figure it out would be to read the front page for the roles that seem most dangerous to mafia. If base seems to be acting like that role, more votes probably went to them. Especially considering the switch from snow to bass.

Then again, another way to look at Is all the people who voted bass are quickly dying off. Only person to not vote bass and die so far was hedgie.

Unless I'm missing something, isn't BWT the only Bass voter to have died since then? Saying "all the people who voted Bass are dying off" is a very bizarre thing to say.

#991

DFaraday wrote:
Made wrote:
Snow Dog wrote:Sorry. I meant the bass lynch

Bass_the_Clever
8
Ambray (9), Snow Dog (10), birdwithteeth11 (11), Made (12), Simon (15), MovingPictures07 (16), Black Rock (18), Long Con (19)
42%

Made
3
Dom (4), DFaraday (6), Hedgeowl (17)
16%

Snow Dog
4
Mister Rearranger (7), Tink (8), Boogs (13), Bass_the_Clever (14)
21%
.

Depends imo.

I think a way to figure it out would be to read the front page for the roles that seem most dangerous to mafia. If base seems to be acting like that role, more votes probably went to them. Especially considering the switch from snow to bass.

Then again, another way to look at Is all the people who voted bass are quickly dying off. Only person to not vote bass and die so far was hedgie.
Unless I'm missing something, isn't BWT the only Bass voter to have died since then? Saying "all the people who voted Bass are dying off" is a very bizarre thing to say.

I think this is the problem. Made is not paying enough attention. Maybe when he gets back home he will settle down a bit. And stop saying silly things!

#992

My point is if you were bad who would you vote for. If we presume for the moment all options are civ. Would you jump on the mass vote for Bass? Or would you put it on myself or Made?

Probably spread out between all actually.

#993

Snow Dog wrote:My point is if you were bad who would you vote for. If we presume for the moment all options are civ. Would you jump on the mass vote for Bass? Or would you put it on myself or Made?

Probably spread out between all actually.

I agree with that, if a lynch is likely between two or more civvies I would expect a baddie team to spread their votes out. The only problem is we haven't established that either you or Made is actually civvie.

#994

DFaraday wrote:
Snow Dog wrote:My point is if you were bad who would you vote for. If we presume for the moment all options are civ. Would you jump on the mass vote for Bass? Or would you put it on myself or Made?

Probably spread out between all actually.
I agree with that, if a lynch is likely between two or more civvies I would expect a baddie team to spread their votes out. The only problem is we haven't established that either you or Made is actually civvie.

I know. But it helps me work it out because I know I am. Whether people believe me or not is up to them. What do you think of Dom?

#995

Snow Dog wrote:
DFaraday wrote:
Snow Dog wrote:My point is if you were bad who would you vote for. If we presume for the moment all options are civ. Would you jump on the mass vote for Bass? Or would you put it on myself or Made?

Probably spread out between all actually.
I agree with that, if a lynch is likely between two or more civvies I would expect a baddie team to spread their votes out. The only problem is we haven't established that either you or Made is actually civvie.
I know. But it helps me work it out because I know I am. Whether people believe me or not is up to them. What do you think of Dom?

He hasn't pinged me at all. I've found myself agreeing with him more often than not, and I'm leaning more civvie than baddie.

#996

DFaraday wrote:
Snow Dog wrote:
DFaraday wrote:
Snow Dog wrote:My point is if you were bad who would you vote for. If we presume for the moment all options are civ. Would you jump on the mass vote for Bass? Or would you put it on myself or Made?

Probably spread out between all actually.
I agree with that, if a lynch is likely between two or more civvies I would expect a baddie team to spread their votes out. The only problem is we haven't established that either you or Made is actually civvie.
I know. But it helps me work it out because I know I am. Whether people believe me or not is up to them. What do you think of Dom?
He hasn't pinged me at all. I've found myself agreeing with him more often than not, and I'm leaning more civvie than baddie.

He is certain that Made is bad. I am certain that he is not. One of us is wrong. Who do you side with? Or anyone?

#997

Either Black Rock or Long Con is bad.

I think.

#998

Snow Dog wrote:
DFaraday wrote:
Snow Dog wrote:
DFaraday wrote:
Snow Dog wrote:My point is if you were bad who would you vote for. If we presume for the moment all options are civ. Would you jump on the mass vote for Bass? Or would you put it on myself or Made?

Probably spread out between all actually.
I agree with that, if a lynch is likely between two or more civvies I would expect a baddie team to spread their votes out. The only problem is we haven't established that either you or Made is actually civvie.
I know. But it helps me work it out because I know I am. Whether people believe me or not is up to them. What do you think of Dom?
He hasn't pinged me at all. I've found myself agreeing with him more often than not, and I'm leaning more civvie than baddie.
He is certain that Made is bad. I am certain that he is not. One of us is wrong. Who do you side with? Or anyone?

I'm more inclined to side with Dom, because I do feel like Made was saved in the last lynch, but the fact that you're so sure is giving me pause. On the other hand, since there is a seemer role, it would be possible for a baddie to heavily vouch for a teammate who is under fire. But I'm inclined to give you the benefit of the doubt unless Made is proved to be bad.

EBWOP: I think you might be right about that. If, as you say, the votes were spread out, I could see more than one baddie jumping on Bass once it was obvious he was going down anyway.

#999

Sorry, I think I missed the last lynch AND the night poll. There are excuses, but I won't make them.

I am torn, because I am not getting the same vibes from Made that everybody else seems to be getting - can somebody please, in a nutshell, show what it is exactly that Made has done to make him suspicious? I feel like I have read little things here and there and am missing the bigger picture with him.

I am pinged by Snow's defense of him however, I feel like it is starting to go overboard tbh. To the point where I could possibly see him doing it because of being baddie teammates. If that would be his style or not, I don't know. However, once again I am not picking up on all the things others seem to be feeling from Snow in terms of bad vibes. So I don't know what to make of it at the moment.

I am however more and more looking at DF. Just reading his recent posts and going by gut, I am sensing baddie. I need to look back and see where that post is that pinged me initially and I mentioned but didn't quote. I don't know if I'll have time to do that tonight, but I'll definitely go and look back before the day period is over.

#1000

Just noticed something quite surprising.

Neither splints nor Roxy voted in that lynch.

Who is on the naughty list?