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that's so funny actually poor michelle just got shafted from ender and then svs back to back it's actually so unlucky she didnt deserve it!!!
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I hope Michelle used up a life or something because her dying for nothing otherwise sucks.
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diamant is way hotter but alcryst is hysterical in all interactions and when he kills someone and does his little bow it gives me serotonin
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Maybe, hopefully, SVS will actually be wolf. I tend to think more 3Pish, but we'll see.
But at this point, everyone left I've had a *solid* town read on this game. I've run out of suspects; someone has deepwolfed or at least pocketed me. To that end... I'm gonna take a page out of Mac's book and talk through my theoretical reasons why my town reads are wrong (and also why they're right).
Wilgy is wolf because... his team would have bussed MR anyway and it got him cred to go with the town. (But Wilgy just feels so town, doesn't he?)
Dizzy is wolf because... they always end up on the main wagon, but never cause it. They're blending in. (But they have also been real solvey).
Ender is wolf because... his ability uses, and explanation of it, have been a little strange and contradictory (But "My ability is surprising even me" is an odd path to choose if wolf, it's inherently sus)
Falcon is wolf because... he's gone suspiciously quiet and absent recently, and they were happy to let 112 burn after MR (But early interactive reads were really good for falcon, and what effort he has put in has been insightful)
Guillo is wolf because... actually I think Guillo has just had consistently wolfy behaviour (but people also have consistently vouched that Guillo is on town meta all game)
Kate is wolf because... she's playing a very masterful deepwolf game, which she's capable of (honestly can't find any basis to read Kate as wolf, this is my first true locktown on this list.)
Neon is wolf because... no, Neon isn't wolf. (As noted I worry that she could be a SK, but other than that she is lock cleared to me).
Party Crasher is wolf because... they've been erratic and seem to be lolling it up often (But Tutuu really does solve and 3P feels far more likely than wolf).
Porscha is wolf because... she's quiet, and just letting everyone else fall over themselves (But Porscha has solidly increased participation and reads with each passing day, and has some compatibility clearing)
Rondo is wolf because... he is good at deepwolfing, and odds are someone in the DnD server would be (But he's well trusted there by Kate and Michelle, and he hasn't done anything particularly antitown)
Scotty is wolf because... people have been suspecting him all game and he's been hard to elim (But, well... people have been suspecting him all flippin game and he feels like low-hanging fruit at times, the name it's easy for wolves to bring up).
Sig is wolf because... he lied about his Alison claim and shot me (But, realistically, he probably didn't lie and he just shot Alison, lockclearing him).
Sloonei is wolf because... his entire strategy has been about avoiding the vig shot by being perfectly average (But he also adds insight when he's about).
Urist is wolf because... he's been more loling and doing popins but he hasn't been *that* solvey and when it is it's often tinfoil stuff (But lots of people vouch for this being his town game).
Going through that...
Wilgy/Sloonei being wolf is a real possibility for me. I don't think Wilgy is as close to a lock clear as I felt previously.
I understand more why some people suspect Dizzy. When I thought about 'why is he wolf' rather than 'why is he town', I realised my townread on him is vibes.
Ender, I actually don't know why I townread him and this is bothersome.
And Falcon... the fact he's gone quiet is bothering me.
And I could add SVS back into this list, I guess, but I have no townread on SVS. I just think she's clearly anti-town of some form.
But at this point, everyone left I've had a *solid* town read on this game. I've run out of suspects; someone has deepwolfed or at least pocketed me. To that end... I'm gonna take a page out of Mac's book and talk through my theoretical reasons why my town reads are wrong (and also why they're right).
Wilgy is wolf because... his team would have bussed MR anyway and it got him cred to go with the town. (But Wilgy just feels so town, doesn't he?)
Dizzy is wolf because... they always end up on the main wagon, but never cause it. They're blending in. (But they have also been real solvey).
Ender is wolf because... his ability uses, and explanation of it, have been a little strange and contradictory (But "My ability is surprising even me" is an odd path to choose if wolf, it's inherently sus)
Falcon is wolf because... he's gone suspiciously quiet and absent recently, and they were happy to let 112 burn after MR (But early interactive reads were really good for falcon, and what effort he has put in has been insightful)
Guillo is wolf because... actually I think Guillo has just had consistently wolfy behaviour (but people also have consistently vouched that Guillo is on town meta all game)
Kate is wolf because... she's playing a very masterful deepwolf game, which she's capable of (honestly can't find any basis to read Kate as wolf, this is my first true locktown on this list.)
Neon is wolf because... no, Neon isn't wolf. (As noted I worry that she could be a SK, but other than that she is lock cleared to me).
Party Crasher is wolf because... they've been erratic and seem to be lolling it up often (But Tutuu really does solve and 3P feels far more likely than wolf).
Porscha is wolf because... she's quiet, and just letting everyone else fall over themselves (But Porscha has solidly increased participation and reads with each passing day, and has some compatibility clearing)
Rondo is wolf because... he is good at deepwolfing, and odds are someone in the DnD server would be (But he's well trusted there by Kate and Michelle, and he hasn't done anything particularly antitown)
Scotty is wolf because... people have been suspecting him all game and he's been hard to elim (But, well... people have been suspecting him all flippin game and he feels like low-hanging fruit at times, the name it's easy for wolves to bring up).
Sig is wolf because... he lied about his Alison claim and shot me (But, realistically, he probably didn't lie and he just shot Alison, lockclearing him).
Sloonei is wolf because... his entire strategy has been about avoiding the vig shot by being perfectly average (But he also adds insight when he's about).
Urist is wolf because... he's been more loling and doing popins but he hasn't been *that* solvey and when it is it's often tinfoil stuff (But lots of people vouch for this being his town game).
Going through that...
Wilgy/Sloonei being wolf is a real possibility for me. I don't think Wilgy is as close to a lock clear as I felt previously.
I understand more why some people suspect Dizzy. When I thought about 'why is he wolf' rather than 'why is he town', I realised my townread on him is vibes.
Ender, I actually don't know why I townread him and this is bothersome.
And Falcon... the fact he's gone quiet is bothering me.
And I could add SVS back into this list, I guess, but I have no townread on SVS. I just think she's clearly anti-town of some form.
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k i'm gonna go to bed I should be able to show up before eod but idk if at eod will be possible cuz I got 4 days at a cabin with a group of my friends but i'll do my best to show up for class! and i'll make sure I get a vote in at some point too
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All towncred SVS got for voting Mac should be revoked.
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I dont think i've ever seen the term "anti town" used so repeatedly and frequently until svs existed in this game and yet she was unvote-able until today?
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no, it was post #11111Porscha wrote: ↑Mon Feb 27, 2023 5:20 am>:( this is why I dont ask you for favors and I ask ender instead
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And yet I am no more knowledgeableRondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Mon Feb 27, 2023 5:47 amno, it was post #11111Porscha wrote: ↑Mon Feb 27, 2023 5:20 am>:( this is why I dont ask you for favors and I ask ender instead

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Lol yeah true
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I was all in on SVS getting elimmed on day two but people weren't really believing me, and then SVS convinced Kate off her and so I followed Kate because Kate can read SVS better than me overall.
But at this point I just think SVS is either wolf or an extremely dangerous 3P. SVS acting so quietly and cautiously WHILE having a death protect as town is just not possible.
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Porscha, it’s been nice to actually have a chance to vibe/interact with you finally.
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I dont particularly agree that quiet, cautious, and some sort of bulletproof vest has to mean someone is non townGolden wrote: ↑Mon Feb 27, 2023 5:55 amI was all in on SVS getting elimmed on day two but people weren't really believing me, and then SVS convinced Kate off her and so I followed Kate because Kate can read SVS better than me overall.
But at this point I just think SVS is either wolf or an extremely dangerous 3P. SVS acting so quietly and cautiously WHILE having a death protect as town is just not possible.
But I didnt read much of svs earlier in game to keep myself convinced shes likely town
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Not ‘someone’, no, sure.Porscha wrote: ↑Mon Feb 27, 2023 5:58 amI dont particularly agree that quiet, cautious, and some sort of bulletproof vest has to mean someone is non townGolden wrote: ↑Mon Feb 27, 2023 5:55 amI was all in on SVS getting elimmed on day two but people weren't really believing me, and then SVS convinced Kate off her and so I followed Kate because Kate can read SVS better than me overall.
But at this point I just think SVS is either wolf or an extremely dangerous 3P. SVS acting so quietly and cautiously WHILE having a death protect as town is just not possible.
But I didnt read much of svs earlier in game to keep myself convinced shes likely town
But svs… yes.
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Yeah I am for getting rid of sloonie so we can figure out who wilgy is. I was happy to let them coast as sneaky town till I saw them voting together today. I have been checking and they have been avoiding each other like mad till they figured out I have linked them. Maybe I missed when they were voting together but I do not like they are both on the same LHF. Not that I have any love for Guillo. Also SVS not dying here is a big dealGolden wrote: ↑Mon Feb 27, 2023 5:40 am Maybe, hopefully, SVS will actually be wolf. I tend to think more 3Pish, but we'll see.
But at this point, everyone left I've had a *solid* town read on this game. I've run out of suspects; someone has deepwolfed or at least pocketed me. To that end... I'm gonna take a page out of Mac's book and talk through my theoretical reasons why my town reads are wrong (and also why they're right).
Wilgy is wolf because... his team would have bussed MR anyway and it got him cred to go with the town. (But Wilgy just feels so town, doesn't he?)
Dizzy is wolf because... they always end up on the main wagon, but never cause it. They're blending in. (But they have also been real solvey).
Ender is wolf because... his ability uses, and explanation of it, have been a little strange and contradictory (But "My ability is surprising even me" is an odd path to choose if wolf, it's inherently sus)
Falcon is wolf because... he's gone suspiciously quiet and absent recently, and they were happy to let 112 burn after MR (But early interactive reads were really good for falcon, and what effort he has put in has been insightful)
Guillo is wolf because... actually I think Guillo has just had consistently wolfy behaviour (but people also have consistently vouched that Guillo is on town meta all game)
Kate is wolf because... she's playing a very masterful deepwolf game, which she's capable of (honestly can't find any basis to read Kate as wolf, this is my first true locktown on this list.)
Neon is wolf because... no, Neon isn't wolf. (As noted I worry that she could be a SK, but other than that she is lock cleared to me).
Party Crasher is wolf because... they've been erratic and seem to be lolling it up often (But Tutuu really does solve and 3P feels far more likely than wolf).
Porscha is wolf because... she's quiet, and just letting everyone else fall over themselves (But Porscha has solidly increased participation and reads with each passing day, and has some compatibility clearing)
Rondo is wolf because... he is good at deepwolfing, and odds are someone in the DnD server would be (But he's well trusted there by Kate and Michelle, and he hasn't done anything particularly antitown)
Scotty is wolf because... people have been suspecting him all game and he's been hard to elim (But, well... people have been suspecting him all flippin game and he feels like low-hanging fruit at times, the name it's easy for wolves to bring up).
Sig is wolf because... he lied about his Alison claim and shot me (But, realistically, he probably didn't lie and he just shot Alison, lockclearing him).
Sloonei is wolf because... his entire strategy has been about avoiding the vig shot by being perfectly average (But he also adds insight when he's about).
Urist is wolf because... he's been more loling and doing popins but he hasn't been *that* solvey and when it is it's often tinfoil stuff (But lots of people vouch for this being his town game).
Going through that...
Wilgy/Sloonei being wolf is a real possibility for me. I don't think Wilgy is as close to a lock clear as I felt previously.
I understand more why some people suspect Dizzy. When I thought about 'why is he wolf' rather than 'why is he town', I realised my townread on him is vibes.
Ender, I actually don't know why I townread him and this is bothersome.
And Falcon... the fact he's gone quiet is bothering me.
And I could add SVS back into this list, I guess, but I have no townread on SVS. I just think she's clearly anti-town of some form.
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I'm more of a lurker when louder voices are talking

I wish I was able to garner more info out of my time here this evening but unless I was gonna deep dive into ISO's it was unluckily not very fruitful
Be back tomorrow
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I adore Alcryst but I think it's because Lapis is my favorite character and his supports with her are easily the best in the game don't @ me
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Didn’t you specifically propose they both vote guillo to enable him to shoot one of them? Or am I imagining that.RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Mon Feb 27, 2023 5:59 amYeah I am for getting rid of sloonie so we can figure out who wilgy is. I was happy to let them coast as sneaky town till I saw them voting together today. I have been checking and they have been avoiding each other like mad till they figured out I have linked them. Maybe I missed when they were voting together but I do not like they are both on the same LHF. Not that I have any love for Guillo. Also SVS not dying here is a big dealGolden wrote: ↑Mon Feb 27, 2023 5:40 am Maybe, hopefully, SVS will actually be wolf. I tend to think more 3Pish, but we'll see.
But at this point, everyone left I've had a *solid* town read on this game. I've run out of suspects; someone has deepwolfed or at least pocketed me. To that end... I'm gonna take a page out of Mac's book and talk through my theoretical reasons why my town reads are wrong (and also why they're right).
Wilgy is wolf because... his team would have bussed MR anyway and it got him cred to go with the town. (But Wilgy just feels so town, doesn't he?)
Dizzy is wolf because... they always end up on the main wagon, but never cause it. They're blending in. (But they have also been real solvey).
Ender is wolf because... his ability uses, and explanation of it, have been a little strange and contradictory (But "My ability is surprising even me" is an odd path to choose if wolf, it's inherently sus)
Falcon is wolf because... he's gone suspiciously quiet and absent recently, and they were happy to let 112 burn after MR (But early interactive reads were really good for falcon, and what effort he has put in has been insightful)
Guillo is wolf because... actually I think Guillo has just had consistently wolfy behaviour (but people also have consistently vouched that Guillo is on town meta all game)
Kate is wolf because... she's playing a very masterful deepwolf game, which she's capable of (honestly can't find any basis to read Kate as wolf, this is my first true locktown on this list.)
Neon is wolf because... no, Neon isn't wolf. (As noted I worry that she could be a SK, but other than that she is lock cleared to me).
Party Crasher is wolf because... they've been erratic and seem to be lolling it up often (But Tutuu really does solve and 3P feels far more likely than wolf).
Porscha is wolf because... she's quiet, and just letting everyone else fall over themselves (But Porscha has solidly increased participation and reads with each passing day, and has some compatibility clearing)
Rondo is wolf because... he is good at deepwolfing, and odds are someone in the DnD server would be (But he's well trusted there by Kate and Michelle, and he hasn't done anything particularly antitown)
Scotty is wolf because... people have been suspecting him all game and he's been hard to elim (But, well... people have been suspecting him all flippin game and he feels like low-hanging fruit at times, the name it's easy for wolves to bring up).
Sig is wolf because... he lied about his Alison claim and shot me (But, realistically, he probably didn't lie and he just shot Alison, lockclearing him).
Sloonei is wolf because... his entire strategy has been about avoiding the vig shot by being perfectly average (But he also adds insight when he's about).
Urist is wolf because... he's been more loling and doing popins but he hasn't been *that* solvey and when it is it's often tinfoil stuff (But lots of people vouch for this being his town game).
Going through that...
Wilgy/Sloonei being wolf is a real possibility for me. I don't think Wilgy is as close to a lock clear as I felt previously.
I understand more why some people suspect Dizzy. When I thought about 'why is he wolf' rather than 'why is he town', I realised my townread on him is vibes.
Ender, I actually don't know why I townread him and this is bothersome.
And Falcon... the fact he's gone quiet is bothering me.
And I could add SVS back into this list, I guess, but I have no townread on SVS. I just think she's clearly anti-town of some form.
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nopeGolden wrote: ↑Mon Feb 27, 2023 6:27 amDidn’t you specifically propose they both vote guillo to enable him to shoot one of them? Or am I imagining that.RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Mon Feb 27, 2023 5:59 amYeah I am for getting rid of sloonie so we can figure out who wilgy is. I was happy to let them coast as sneaky town till I saw them voting together today. I have been checking and they have been avoiding each other like mad till they figured out I have linked them. Maybe I missed when they were voting together but I do not like they are both on the same LHF. Not that I have any love for Guillo. Also SVS not dying here is a big dealGolden wrote: ↑Mon Feb 27, 2023 5:40 am Maybe, hopefully, SVS will actually be wolf. I tend to think more 3Pish, but we'll see.
But at this point, everyone left I've had a *solid* town read on this game. I've run out of suspects; someone has deepwolfed or at least pocketed me. To that end... I'm gonna take a page out of Mac's book and talk through my theoretical reasons why my town reads are wrong (and also why they're right).
Wilgy is wolf because... his team would have bussed MR anyway and it got him cred to go with the town. (But Wilgy just feels so town, doesn't he?)
Dizzy is wolf because... they always end up on the main wagon, but never cause it. They're blending in. (But they have also been real solvey).
Ender is wolf because... his ability uses, and explanation of it, have been a little strange and contradictory (But "My ability is surprising even me" is an odd path to choose if wolf, it's inherently sus)
Falcon is wolf because... he's gone suspiciously quiet and absent recently, and they were happy to let 112 burn after MR (But early interactive reads were really good for falcon, and what effort he has put in has been insightful)
Guillo is wolf because... actually I think Guillo has just had consistently wolfy behaviour (but people also have consistently vouched that Guillo is on town meta all game)
Kate is wolf because... she's playing a very masterful deepwolf game, which she's capable of (honestly can't find any basis to read Kate as wolf, this is my first true locktown on this list.)
Neon is wolf because... no, Neon isn't wolf. (As noted I worry that she could be a SK, but other than that she is lock cleared to me).
Party Crasher is wolf because... they've been erratic and seem to be lolling it up often (But Tutuu really does solve and 3P feels far more likely than wolf).
Porscha is wolf because... she's quiet, and just letting everyone else fall over themselves (But Porscha has solidly increased participation and reads with each passing day, and has some compatibility clearing)
Rondo is wolf because... he is good at deepwolfing, and odds are someone in the DnD server would be (But he's well trusted there by Kate and Michelle, and he hasn't done anything particularly antitown)
Scotty is wolf because... people have been suspecting him all game and he's been hard to elim (But, well... people have been suspecting him all flippin game and he feels like low-hanging fruit at times, the name it's easy for wolves to bring up).
Sig is wolf because... he lied about his Alison claim and shot me (But, realistically, he probably didn't lie and he just shot Alison, lockclearing him).
Sloonei is wolf because... his entire strategy has been about avoiding the vig shot by being perfectly average (But he also adds insight when he's about).
Urist is wolf because... he's been more loling and doing popins but he hasn't been *that* solvey and when it is it's often tinfoil stuff (But lots of people vouch for this being his town game).
Going through that...
Wilgy/Sloonei being wolf is a real possibility for me. I don't think Wilgy is as close to a lock clear as I felt previously.
I understand more why some people suspect Dizzy. When I thought about 'why is he wolf' rather than 'why is he town', I realised my townread on him is vibes.
Ender, I actually don't know why I townread him and this is bothersome.
And Falcon... the fact he's gone quiet is bothering me.
And I could add SVS back into this list, I guess, but I have no townread on SVS. I just think she's clearly anti-town of some form.
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I've literally never even used her lol t.t
I really like kagetsu I should try using him... but i have abandoned zhelkov for star girl theif instead
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Re: Game of Champions 2022 D4
Incidentally this is a good plan regardlessRondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Mon Feb 27, 2023 6:34 amnopeGolden wrote: ↑Mon Feb 27, 2023 6:27 amDidn’t you specifically propose they both vote guillo to enable him to shoot one of them? Or am I imagining that.RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Mon Feb 27, 2023 5:59 amYeah I am for getting rid of sloonie so we can figure out who wilgy is. I was happy to let them coast as sneaky town till I saw them voting together today. I have been checking and they have been avoiding each other like mad till they figured out I have linked them. Maybe I missed when they were voting together but I do not like they are both on the same LHF. Not that I have any love for Guillo. Also SVS not dying here is a big dealGolden wrote: ↑Mon Feb 27, 2023 5:40 am Maybe, hopefully, SVS will actually be wolf. I tend to think more 3Pish, but we'll see.
But at this point, everyone left I've had a *solid* town read on this game. I've run out of suspects; someone has deepwolfed or at least pocketed me. To that end... I'm gonna take a page out of Mac's book and talk through my theoretical reasons why my town reads are wrong (and also why they're right).
Wilgy is wolf because... his team would have bussed MR anyway and it got him cred to go with the town. (But Wilgy just feels so town, doesn't he?)
Dizzy is wolf because... they always end up on the main wagon, but never cause it. They're blending in. (But they have also been real solvey).
Ender is wolf because... his ability uses, and explanation of it, have been a little strange and contradictory (But "My ability is surprising even me" is an odd path to choose if wolf, it's inherently sus)
Falcon is wolf because... he's gone suspiciously quiet and absent recently, and they were happy to let 112 burn after MR (But early interactive reads were really good for falcon, and what effort he has put in has been insightful)
Guillo is wolf because... actually I think Guillo has just had consistently wolfy behaviour (but people also have consistently vouched that Guillo is on town meta all game)
Kate is wolf because... she's playing a very masterful deepwolf game, which she's capable of (honestly can't find any basis to read Kate as wolf, this is my first true locktown on this list.)
Neon is wolf because... no, Neon isn't wolf. (As noted I worry that she could be a SK, but other than that she is lock cleared to me).
Party Crasher is wolf because... they've been erratic and seem to be lolling it up often (But Tutuu really does solve and 3P feels far more likely than wolf).
Porscha is wolf because... she's quiet, and just letting everyone else fall over themselves (But Porscha has solidly increased participation and reads with each passing day, and has some compatibility clearing)
Rondo is wolf because... he is good at deepwolfing, and odds are someone in the DnD server would be (But he's well trusted there by Kate and Michelle, and he hasn't done anything particularly antitown)
Scotty is wolf because... people have been suspecting him all game and he's been hard to elim (But, well... people have been suspecting him all flippin game and he feels like low-hanging fruit at times, the name it's easy for wolves to bring up).
Sig is wolf because... he lied about his Alison claim and shot me (But, realistically, he probably didn't lie and he just shot Alison, lockclearing him).
Sloonei is wolf because... his entire strategy has been about avoiding the vig shot by being perfectly average (But he also adds insight when he's about).
Urist is wolf because... he's been more loling and doing popins but he hasn't been *that* solvey and when it is it's often tinfoil stuff (But lots of people vouch for this being his town game).
Going through that...
Wilgy/Sloonei being wolf is a real possibility for me. I don't think Wilgy is as close to a lock clear as I felt previously.
I understand more why some people suspect Dizzy. When I thought about 'why is he wolf' rather than 'why is he town', I realised my townread on him is vibes.
Ender, I actually don't know why I townread him and this is bothersome.
And Falcon... the fact he's gone quiet is bothering me.
And I could add SVS back into this list, I guess, but I have no townread on SVS. I just think she's clearly anti-town of some form.
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Re: Game of Champions 2022 D4
Yunaka! I fucking love Yunaka.Porscha wrote: ↑Mon Feb 27, 2023 6:41 amI've literally never even used her lol t.t
I really like kagetsu I should try using him... but i have abandoned zhelkov for star girl theif instead
It makes me very sad you don't use Lapis she is so adorable... but everytime I use her she does like 1 fight and is almost dead.
Why why do you do this to me!
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If SVS actually flips town, we kill Ender. But she probably won't
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Are you linking the flips of these two in some way? Where does the connection arise?Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Mon Feb 27, 2023 6:45 am If SVS actually flips town, we kill Ender. But she probably won't
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Re: Game of Champions 2022 D4
Yeah possibly although it’s not mine, I think someone said it.Porscha wrote: ↑Mon Feb 27, 2023 6:41 amIncidentally this is a good plan regardlessRondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Mon Feb 27, 2023 6:34 amnopeGolden wrote: ↑Mon Feb 27, 2023 6:27 amDidn’t you specifically propose they both vote guillo to enable him to shoot one of them? Or am I imagining that.RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Mon Feb 27, 2023 5:59 amYeah I am for getting rid of sloonie so we can figure out who wilgy is. I was happy to let them coast as sneaky town till I saw them voting together today. I have been checking and they have been avoiding each other like mad till they figured out I have linked them. Maybe I missed when they were voting together but I do not like they are both on the same LHF. Not that I have any love for Guillo. Also SVS not dying here is a big dealGolden wrote: ↑Mon Feb 27, 2023 5:40 am Maybe, hopefully, SVS will actually be wolf. I tend to think more 3Pish, but we'll see.
But at this point, everyone left I've had a *solid* town read on this game. I've run out of suspects; someone has deepwolfed or at least pocketed me. To that end... I'm gonna take a page out of Mac's book and talk through my theoretical reasons why my town reads are wrong (and also why they're right).
Wilgy is wolf because... his team would have bussed MR anyway and it got him cred to go with the town. (But Wilgy just feels so town, doesn't he?)
Dizzy is wolf because... they always end up on the main wagon, but never cause it. They're blending in. (But they have also been real solvey).
Ender is wolf because... his ability uses, and explanation of it, have been a little strange and contradictory (But "My ability is surprising even me" is an odd path to choose if wolf, it's inherently sus)
Falcon is wolf because... he's gone suspiciously quiet and absent recently, and they were happy to let 112 burn after MR (But early interactive reads were really good for falcon, and what effort he has put in has been insightful)
Guillo is wolf because... actually I think Guillo has just had consistently wolfy behaviour (but people also have consistently vouched that Guillo is on town meta all game)
Kate is wolf because... she's playing a very masterful deepwolf game, which she's capable of (honestly can't find any basis to read Kate as wolf, this is my first true locktown on this list.)
Neon is wolf because... no, Neon isn't wolf. (As noted I worry that she could be a SK, but other than that she is lock cleared to me).
Party Crasher is wolf because... they've been erratic and seem to be lolling it up often (But Tutuu really does solve and 3P feels far more likely than wolf).
Porscha is wolf because... she's quiet, and just letting everyone else fall over themselves (But Porscha has solidly increased participation and reads with each passing day, and has some compatibility clearing)
Rondo is wolf because... he is good at deepwolfing, and odds are someone in the DnD server would be (But he's well trusted there by Kate and Michelle, and he hasn't done anything particularly antitown)
Scotty is wolf because... people have been suspecting him all game and he's been hard to elim (But, well... people have been suspecting him all flippin game and he feels like low-hanging fruit at times, the name it's easy for wolves to bring up).
Sig is wolf because... he lied about his Alison claim and shot me (But, realistically, he probably didn't lie and he just shot Alison, lockclearing him).
Sloonei is wolf because... his entire strategy has been about avoiding the vig shot by being perfectly average (But he also adds insight when he's about).
Urist is wolf because... he's been more loling and doing popins but he hasn't been *that* solvey and when it is it's often tinfoil stuff (But lots of people vouch for this being his town game).
Going through that...
Wilgy/Sloonei being wolf is a real possibility for me. I don't think Wilgy is as close to a lock clear as I felt previously.
I understand more why some people suspect Dizzy. When I thought about 'why is he wolf' rather than 'why is he town', I realised my townread on him is vibes.
Ender, I actually don't know why I townread him and this is bothersome.
And Falcon... the fact he's gone quiet is bothering me.
And I could add SVS back into this list, I guess, but I have no townread on SVS. I just think she's clearly anti-town of some form.
And if they didn’t and it is my plan I’m very clever and also very concerned about my brain.
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Re: Game of Champions 2022 D4
I think the connection being drawn is pretty obvious but also like a wrong connection to drawGolden wrote: ↑Mon Feb 27, 2023 6:51 amAre you linking the flips of these two in some way? Where does the connection arise?Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Mon Feb 27, 2023 6:45 am If SVS actually flips town, we kill Ender. But she probably won't
I wanna let Dizzy answer though
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I don’t fully trust Ender’s ability and the way he went about itGolden wrote: ↑Mon Feb 27, 2023 6:51 amAre you linking the flips of these two in some way? Where does the connection arise?Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Mon Feb 27, 2023 6:45 am If SVS actually flips town, we kill Ender. But she probably won't
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Actually I’m not really sure what I think. We should flip SVS and go from there
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I'm pretty sure I do now, but I did not expect it. I saw Michelles post last night before I went to bed. I came in here this AM expecting to find myself dead. After I saw the post, I checked back in channel and saw that it was right; only Michelle died. I did not check w/Nanook this AM because not sure what his time zone is, but i don't really have to.
But tbh, even if I had known, and tried to tell you all, no one would have believed me anyhow. That's just how this game went for me. Not sure what I said or did initially other than not being "fiery" enough.
I had a vest. It came with my role, I did not get it from Ender. I thought it protected me against night actions and gunshots, it didn't occur to me that it also would work against a bomb. But had I said something, like I said, no one would have believed me, the DnD chat decided I was bad. So yeah, I did know I wouldn't die voting Mac, but I also saw how people reacted to PC announcing they had a vest afterwards, so I don't expect had Mac shot me, that any one would have let me off, anyhow. So i was like whatever.
So don't worry about revoking my civvie cred, Golden. I figure everyone else pretty much knew that and didn't need you to tell them.
So yeah, I'm 3P. I'm a "Death to AtE Monitor", which I found incredibly ironic since I was pretty much the person they were meant to catch, lmao. Not sure if nanook was aware of this when he gave me this role, and was laughing his ass off, or it was a coincidence. On Day one that one guy, HK, told someone to "fuck off". As far as I could tell, other than myself, no one else really did much of that. Although maybe if i had tried harder to read the thread and worried less about looking town, I might have caught more. I could have gotten a gun after catching a specific number, and shot within that group. I don't love role claiming, but it happens, and I don't expect that the non-fiery crowd will believe it anyhow.
And for all the people who said I was "anti-town", um no. As far as I know, I could win with the town; I could also win with the Mafia. I had to live and shoot an emo person; there was nothing in my win con about LMS. It was a fairly boring win con, and I never fully invested myself in the game. It was also something I expected to win, since I haven't really read half the thread. I literally gave up on page 18, I was basically reading the current thread when i was here, and replying to my @'s. I apologize to the host and players for that, I played a crappy game, and considering how much Nanook hates AtE, he definitely deserved better. But I honestly did not do one "anti town" thing.
Also sorry specifically to Michelle. While it didn't occur to me that my vest would also protect me against day actions (I don't have much experience with Day actions), I still could have warned you I had it I guess, but tbh, like I said, would you even have believed me?
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Yep always killing SVS
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Re: Game of Champions 2022 D4
That post amounts to
The only thing I've done all game others have seen as towny actuality didn't matter because I don't die to getting shot
And
I didn't tell anyone when Michelle was thinking about blowing me up because nobody would listen so nobody gets to reevaluate the info at all
You can't say we wouldn't listen you didn't put up the info.
The only thing I've done all game others have seen as towny actuality didn't matter because I don't die to getting shot
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I didn't tell anyone when Michelle was thinking about blowing me up because nobody would listen so nobody gets to reevaluate the info at all
You can't say we wouldn't listen you didn't put up the info.
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Re: Game of Champions 2022 D4
" It was also NOT something I expected to win, since I haven't really read half the thread."
*fixed
And yeah, Neon, no surprise there.
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And yeah, Neon, no surprise there.
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Re: Game of Champions 2022 D4
"SVS can be 3p but not wolf"
I feel mildly vindicated tbh.
I feel mildly vindicated tbh.
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Re: Game of Champions 2022 D4
You know. I ASKED FOR A SHRUBBERY, NOT A HEDGEPorscha wrote: ↑Mon Feb 27, 2023 5:18 am i really honestly dont know what to do with the gamestate atm
I wish falcon was around playing more cuz I was just sheeping the reads that he was town early on but its harder to maintain that sheep when all he's done since I started playing more after day 1 was try to get me vigged for inactivity when I had posted and he didn't see it because HE was inactive and I'm like....... pls I need town falcon's help man
I need wilgy's help
I dont need guillo's but I wish I had it anyway
the less active players make it harder to parse their alignments if they are skating by, and if they are town they are particularly helpful to me if they play more cuz i'm familiar with them
i'm like not really keen on sloonei at this point
i've had moments where I question dizzy's alignment but there has been multiple times where I really feel like they lacked tmi
PC I sincerely do not know what to do with. maybe not a higher prio rn cuz the various heads to give some different perspectives and tutuu interrupts threadstate in ways that I don't hate cuz sometimes it gets sticky in here (especially with mac gone)
golden i marked as like... like pretty town a couple days earlier when he got into a tiff with mac
sometimes I like urist's posts but i've also disliked some of urist's posts and i'm not really sure how I should read them AI with some of the posts I didnt really like, but it leaves me more open to the idea of them not being as towny
i'm not very keen on flipping ender or rondo, not neon either (at least at this point)
I could use some more posts from kate too but i'm okay to sheep others on that read. I did it with nutella and there hasn't been any reasons for that to change from what I've seen
guess we'll move forward after michelle and svs flips but i'm not entirely hopeful on either person flipping anything other than green
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Re: Game of Champions 2022 D4
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Re: Game of Champions 2022 D4
I completely trust SVS
Btw SVS are you modsquad? Or completely independent? @S~V~S
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Btw SVS are you modsquad? Or completely independent? @S~V~S
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Re: Game of Champions 2022 D4
Town for perfectly good reasons:
Ender
DrWilgy
Kate
Neon
Michelle (rip)
Town for perfectly good reasons but we added a ?:
Golden
Falcon
Guillo
Neon again but with extra paint.
Sloonei
Town, but I actually want to do the whole witch test on them:
Rondo
Sig
I have begun to suspect them for possibly tinfoil reasons:
Dizzy
Porscha
Urist
I have begun to suspect them for NOT tinfoil reasons:
Scotty
Obvious 3p:
Party Crasher
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Obvious Wolf:
Ender again, except this time with a joker mask
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Golden might be a 3p due to his protection
We are still town despite our protection
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We also claimed our protection early for this exact reason lol. Looks like i made a good choice. I wasnt under pressure when i full claimed. As mac said i easy could have claimed benign npc who was just trolling, everyone though thats what i am already, and we would be left alone. Like im obviously *trying* my best to help town (and i do happen to be town) but even if u wanna insist on thinking im 3p at least i hope u still think im townsiding? At least
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Svs is not modsquad coz she referred to HK as "that guy". Unless she just flips as modsquad
This will give us good info. If she does and her role gets redacted - theyre all independent
If she doesnt, then there is more fucking modsquad. Who are aligned. So again - looking and sloonei and wilgy lol
Wilgy is wilgy but i really think sloonei has played this game like a 3p trying to survive. Guy refuses to make a single read. (Im going off of rondos claimed same check between them)
Also looks like modsquad dont have protection, so there's that. Ilario instantly died to seanzie, hkatt instantly died to dizzy
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This will give us good info. If she does and her role gets redacted - theyre all independent
If she doesnt, then there is more fucking modsquad. Who are aligned. So again - looking and sloonei and wilgy lol
Wilgy is wilgy but i really think sloonei has played this game like a 3p trying to survive. Guy refuses to make a single read. (Im going off of rondos claimed same check between them)
Also looks like modsquad dont have protection, so there's that. Ilario instantly died to seanzie, hkatt instantly died to dizzy
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Bro finds reason to make me w the moment I go out of my way to add express they are PoE with tension.Golden wrote: ↑Mon Feb 27, 2023 5:40 am Maybe, hopefully, SVS will actually be wolf. I tend to think more 3Pish, but we'll see.
But at this point, everyone left I've had a *solid* town read on this game. I've run out of suspects; someone has deepwolfed or at least pocketed me. To that end... I'm gonna take a page out of Mac's book and talk through my theoretical reasons why my town reads are wrong (and also why they're right).
Wilgy is wolf because... his team would have bussed MR anyway and it got him cred to go with the town. (But Wilgy just feels so town, doesn't he?)
Dizzy is wolf because... they always end up on the main wagon, but never cause it. They're blending in. (But they have also been real solvey).
Ender is wolf because... his ability uses, and explanation of it, have been a little strange and contradictory (But "My ability is surprising even me" is an odd path to choose if wolf, it's inherently sus)
Falcon is wolf because... he's gone suspiciously quiet and absent recently, and they were happy to let 112 burn after MR (But early interactive reads were really good for falcon, and what effort he has put in has been insightful)
Guillo is wolf because... actually I think Guillo has just had consistently wolfy behaviour (but people also have consistently vouched that Guillo is on town meta all game)
Kate is wolf because... she's playing a very masterful deepwolf game, which she's capable of (honestly can't find any basis to read Kate as wolf, this is my first true locktown on this list.)
Neon is wolf because... no, Neon isn't wolf. (As noted I worry that she could be a SK, but other than that she is lock cleared to me).
Party Crasher is wolf because... they've been erratic and seem to be lolling it up often (But Tutuu really does solve and 3P feels far more likely than wolf).
Porscha is wolf because... she's quiet, and just letting everyone else fall over themselves (But Porscha has solidly increased participation and reads with each passing day, and has some compatibility clearing)
Rondo is wolf because... he is good at deepwolfing, and odds are someone in the DnD server would be (But he's well trusted there by Kate and Michelle, and he hasn't done anything particularly antitown)
Scotty is wolf because... people have been suspecting him all game and he's been hard to elim (But, well... people have been suspecting him all flippin game and he feels like low-hanging fruit at times, the name it's easy for wolves to bring up).
Sig is wolf because... he lied about his Alison claim and shot me (But, realistically, he probably didn't lie and he just shot Alison, lockclearing him).
Sloonei is wolf because... his entire strategy has been about avoiding the vig shot by being perfectly average (But he also adds insight when he's about).
Urist is wolf because... he's been more loling and doing popins but he hasn't been *that* solvey and when it is it's often tinfoil stuff (But lots of people vouch for this being his town game).
Going through that...
Wilgy/Sloonei being wolf is a real possibility for me. I don't think Wilgy is as close to a lock clear as I felt previously.
I understand more why some people suspect Dizzy. When I thought about 'why is he wolf' rather than 'why is he town', I realised my townread on him is vibes.
Ender, I actually don't know why I townread him and this is bothersome.
And Falcon... the fact he's gone quiet is bothering me.
And I could add SVS back into this list, I guess, but I have no townread on SVS. I just think she's clearly anti-town of some form.
Yeet this slot lmao.
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Re: Game of Champions 2022 D4
@DrWilgy u just read the paragraph that had the word "wilgy" without reading the start of the post, didnt u? Im asking coz it looks like u missed the context
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Re: Game of Champions 2022 D4
And like, it's cool if you wanna yeet me first, but this game should never allow Golden to persist for another two cycles I think.