notorious hedgehog 14 player mafia game wow! game thread [game over mafia won]

[Sheep]

Ah, fug.

This is also strangely discrediting of the list without data to back up the discredit.

Was supposed to be under that.

I mean I don't really agree with the reads, and I hadn't seen any evidence (and I don't think there was any). I thought that like
all of the people he wolfread were town, but also was too tired and not confident enough to actually ISO all of them.

I also firmly believe that like
there's no way Rondo will actually keep pushing this PoE for the whole game (especially bereft being town)

I'd go into Rondo's ISO there's a post in spoiler that shows Rondo's advancing thoughts.

I haven't been able to absorb it all fully, but I at least believe Rondo believes their reads.

ok I'll go find it

I Ctrl+f'd spoiler and didn't see anything there?

[Sheep]

In the meantime i'm going to go read some ISOs

hm
wait
who tf is rondo townreading

uh anyhow

cape first because that's easiest

[Porscha]

@DrWilgy
@pyxxy
@Porscha
@Seanzie
@Syn
@Le petit poussin

Do you have any opinions on the other people pinged in this post?

Wilgy yes scary wolf
Pyxxy no
Porscha is neons waifu
Sean townlean
Agreed with syn on whatever the fuck theyve said or done
Liked the lpp posts I saw

[pyxxy]

cool, ill knock u down to null then until you get some pelts because some of your emotional posts seemed fake to me. i didnt voice it at the time because it would be inappropriate if they were real, but now that you have space and you've calmed down it seems like the appropriate time to voice this concern

same-ish feeling for me. guess I have a wider idea of what's normalized now :/

[Porscha]

The three question marks at the end are scummy

towny post

scum mad coz im townreading myself

Kinda feels like Tutuu has TMI here.

I audibly laughed but I also need you to know I fucking hate this lmfao

[Syn]

Syn is a dif check to Lucy. If Lucy flips town, hell yeet this slot.

[Porscha]

Um ok I prooooobably wont be here for eod cuz of job and what not and is a busy day at work so probably wont be able to check in much

[tutuu]

knocking down wilgy to null too it doesnt hold past rvs

I feel like you've dropped in your interactions with me following rvs in spite of my content stream/depth increasing. Why is this?

Odd you'd change a read area but not actively trying to improve that read if it's moved into null.

"I feel like you've dropped in your interactions with me following rvs in spite of my content stream/depth increasing. Why is this?"

we weren't itt at the same time and/or i got overwhelmed with other players, most likely

"Odd you'd change a read area but not actively trying to improve that read if it's moved into null."

yeah well i have limited energy and a mortal body

i did ping you and the rest of my yellow reads asking for reads on each other

[pyxxy]

rondo
cape
neon

bereft
sheep
falcon

wilgy
lucy
pyxxy
porscha
seanzie
syn
le petit

maybe i should stop touching it coz it seems to be getting worse and worse

Deep greens are correct,
Sheep shouldn't be bright green
The rest is accurate with maybe the exception of Porscha. Porscha should probably be higher up.

bookmarking this post for future investigation

[Bereft]

Lucy is not a player in this game, I have never even heard of this account in my entire life.

+ Sheep, Rondo, Tutuu, Seanzie, Falcon
- Neon, Le poussin, pyxxy

In particular, Lucy deciding that Neon should have been the appointed savior of this game is off, certainly not in a game where I exist.
Neon reacting in the way they did to Lucy is awful regardless, policy votes are unequivocally terrible and as someone who has used policy votes explicitly as wolf as an excuse, Neon knows exactly how it works and should've desisted. The pair have done a great job in fabricating a world where they are wolf together in my imagination.

I wouldn't know that LPP has made good posts; I don't remember a word of what they've said.

[pyxxy]

I feel drawn to syn le petit and bereft

[Porscha]

DrWigly iso

► Show Spoiler

“Lol this game is free

Cape T
Lucy T
Syn T
Pyxxy W
Neon W
(votes neon)”
Does this on page 1 and pushes neon because she wasn’t partaking in the sexual innuendo fest, which he partakes in himself, and because she was low energy (actually trying to solve and understand neon which is towny)
Laughs off syn shade
Is generally jokey, in line with the established game tone, idk whether it’s natural or intentionally trying to fit in
A bunch of card game posts with neon
And noticed the same thing about weird syn shade, supports my reasoning
Retorts to syn that 2 people have reacted to his readslist (keeping track)
Asks why seanzie thinks im a wolf, trying to understand seanzie
Adds “Also add to that list
Seanzie N
Bereft T
Porscha T”
To his readlist
Is generally joking around and having a good time in the thread, seems natural and not stilted and not pushing an agenda
Responds to a falcon post and asks falcon why cape is scummy
Denies that an action is towny for wigly (very rand scumy)
Bereft calls me impatient and he votes bereft and declines his tr on bereft
“I agree alot with Tutuu. Let's say they are pro town for now.

Lucy,
Cape,
Falcon
Porscha

As well.

Berefts declination of reads is a red flag and Seanzies bait votes not moving or accumulating anything is a red flag.”
More reads, drops syn from his townreads (townie fmpov)
Asks if a seanzie read is reliant on what i flip
Posts sensible reads on me/cape/neon/tutuu which i generally agree with
Questions why pyxxy tr’s cape for what wigly finds as nai (townie and trying to understand reads)
Remembers a votecount and recounts it to the thread, suggests it might be important (townie and trying to solve/ form a long term worldview
cape/falcon towncore, i don’t understand falcon but i never have, hard agree with cape
Rondo town/i’m scum and thinks sheep looks bad from the interactions (lacks tmi because he knows i would flip town and he would openly pre push sheep and he gave no justification for that read, rings townie because usually wolves add reasoning to those reads so they don’t forget)
Adds falcon/cape/rondo to towncore and explains general stuff happening during the game and what rondo has been doing, me/syn being a difference check (good read, i’d have done the same as someone not in this mess)
Tries to understand rondo further and townreads cape openly with reasoning in the thread, i strongly believe cape is town so him adding someone else to generally consensus town who is lhf is very pro town
Points out how syn isn’t solving (correct)

townread btw

I will admit that I have a personal problem ever trusting wilgy but I've already had that feeling I had the 1 time I caught him wolfing where its ... it's the sinking feeling that I'm gonna have to take him out back the shed

Like I could be wrong here

And I'm unsure I can put it into words rn

Day 2 I can get on my comp and sit there and force myself to articulate about specific posts or patterns but that wont happen by day 1 due to my time constraints

Would this be a gut fear read on me Porscha?

Your feeling is one that I recall you having in Hott Fuzz where I went out of my way to pocket you. Am I doing the same here or something resembling that?

Wilgy I always have a gut fear read on you

And honestly dont remember the game enough to remark if it feels the same as of right now... I recall your pocketing forcibly came from me hounding you down before in clashing 1v1, we have not had this experience yet in this game so I dunno

[Sheep]

Porscha hasn't done too much this game but I have thoughts on the falcon thing

Gathered very little from it

do u have a read on me/falcon

Meh gth you're both town for now

Porscha makes this read on lucy and falcon

Gathered very little from it

do u have a read on me/falcon

Why did you ask specifically about yourself and falcon

i’m interested about your perception of me in particular, i can’t read falcon to save my life and u said u could

I personally disagree with cape that falcon has done anything ai yet tbh
And why interested in my perception of you

Then Porscha randomly says they disagree with me that falcon has done anything AI.
This leads me to believe that Porscha sheeped my read or that my read at least had influence in Porscha saying she had gth called falcon town despite saying he has done nothing that is alignment indicative.

do u have a read on me/falcon

Why did you ask specifically about yourself and falcon

i’m interested about your perception of me in particular, i can’t read falcon to save my life and u said u could

I personally disagree with cape that falcon has done anything ai yet tbh
And why interested in my perception of you

So did you townread falcon just because you townread me?

The best way to explain it would be to say... there is 1-100 in my head. Everyone starts at 50 until I see some ai content. If someone is sitting at 50, which I pretty much consider neutral, they can have gth day 1 tr by posting and hitting 51 instead of 50

But when I asked about this, it kinda just left me with more questions.
Like okay so did for instance falcon's push on me tip the scales for Porscha into town territory? What post made it happen?
Porscha quite literally is in contradiction with what they just said with

I personally disagree with cape that falcon has done anything ai yet tbh

so like

grrr
i can't articulate it
smth smth natural smth smth relaxed smth smth this post is solving idk
eh rondo's town list looks fine (besides bereft) i think but i wouldn't be that confident tbh

*oops wrote this a bit ago then got distracted aorry

[pyxxy]

search.php?author_id=1029&t=2482
read le petit's ISO and there's something about the lucy situation

reading about who is to blame for the incoming ML makes me sad and annoyed. PLease stop and play.

i meant to comment on this post as i found it noteworthy for Le Petit just kinda coming in and announcing that lucy will be a ML

Read these pages again. It's literally lucy who was posting this. It's not a me read.

like, cape's not wrong here, and after this le petit goes off and does some medium strength sussing of wilgy, but then ends with

gn

gn. Sad we couldn't realtime more. (week ends are sucky time for me to play smh)

Hopefully we can chat closer to EOD

when the two of them didn't even really talk at all? like le petit showed up, tried to talk about wilgy instead with tutuu

Lol this game is free

Cape T
Lucy T
Syn T
Pyxxy W
Neon W

[VOTE: Neon] aubergine

towny for wilgy?

how? (like they have history with Neon or something?)

that's the whole case from me, I'm not good at this, just felt something was off, didnt even read bereft or syn and I gtg soon

[VOTE: le petit] aubergine

[Seanzie]

@DrWilgy
@pyxxy
@Porscha
@Seanzie
@Syn
@Le petit poussin

Do you have any opinions on the other people pinged in this post?

Wilgy yes scary wolf
Pyxxy no
Porscha is neons waifu
Sean townlean
Agreed with syn on whatever the fuck theyve said or done
Liked the lpp posts I saw

Which Lpp posts?

[pyxxy]

current vote count:

Spoiler: show

Bereft, 2
Voters: Seanzie, DrWilgy

Cape90, 0
Voters: None

DrWilgy, 1
Voters: Porscha

falcon45ca, 0
Voters: None

Le petit poussin, 4
Voters: pyxxy, tutuu, Cape90, Bereft

lucy, 2
Voters: Syn, RondoDimBuckle

Neon, 1
Voters: falcon45ca

No Yeet/Sleep, 0
Voters: None

Porscha, 0
Voters: None

pyxxy, 1
Voters: Neon

RondoDimBuckle, 0
Voters: None

Seanzie, 0
Voters: None

Sheep, 0
Voters: None

Syn, 1
Voters: lucy

tutuu, 1
Voters: Le petit poussin

Unvote/Not Voting, 1
Voters: Sheep

didn't realize there were 3 on le petit already, I'm making that a serious wagon, huh

[Seanzie]

I feel drawn to syn le petit and bereft

Drawn in what way?

[Sheep]

ok I'm going to go read rask's ISO because i've seen like 2 of their posts

[Sheep]

ok I'm going to go read rask's ISO because i've seen like 2 of their posts

See you in 3 hours probably

[Seanzie]

Game something like this:

falcon45ca
Porscha


Sheep
lucy

pyxxy
RondoDimBuckle

tutuu
DrWilgy
Neon
Cape90

Syn

Le petit poussin

Bereft

[Sheep]

Oh nvm
that was a short ISO and it was baically
Part 1: Pushing Wilgy
Part 2: Pushing tutuu

I would rather probably not hang them today because they said weekends are bad for them but also I don't think they've been towny atm

[Seanzie]

I feel drawn to syn le petit and bereft

Drawn in what way?

I just did a gth sort list and got exactly these three as my bottom 3, so assuming you're meaning "drawn to as suspects" (which makes sense with the Petit vote), I'mma say this is good.

[Sheep]

Read list
not bereft

bereft

not bereft

[Seanzie]

Oh nvm
that was a short ISO and it was baically
Part 1: Pushing Wilgy
Part 2: Pushing tutuu

I would rather probably not hang them today because they said weekends are bad for them but also I don't think they've been towny atm

If you don't want to vote Rask, can I interested you in a Bereft wagon?

[Seanzie]

Read list
not bereft

bereft

not bereft

lol, ninja'd

[Sheep]

Oh nvm
that was a short ISO and it was baically
Part 1: Pushing Wilgy
Part 2: Pushing tutuu

I would rather probably not hang them today because they said weekends are bad for them but also I don't think they've been towny atm

If you don't want to vote Rask, can I interested you in a Bereft wagon?

No
Position available now hiring>Rask>Bereft/tutuu/pyxxy(sheeping tutuu)>Cape/Wilgy/Rondo

is probably where I'm at but I can be convinced on some of them

[Sheep]

@Seanzie u are voting for one of my toe core and getting voted by another one of my toe cores

U are mafia and u will be chopped in about 19 hours

Toe cores sound painful.

Who was voting for me, and why is Bereft town?

Toe cores

anyhow
seanzie talk to me about your bereft read

[Syn]

interesting posts from seanzie and bereft in the past hour innit

[pyxxy]

I feel drawn to syn le petit and bereft

Drawn in what way?

lack of experience with them + lack of noting towny vibes during my reads

I'm experimenting with taking notes while playing mafia and tldr they're barely in my notes so far

feels like that might mean something. specifically mean something scummy. gtg soon tho

[Syn]

interesting posts from seanzie and bereft in the past hour innit

oops not bereft, i meant pyxxy

cure you sheep and your bereft list

[Syn]

I feel drawn to syn le petit and bereft

Drawn in what way?

lack of experience with them + lack of noting towny vibes during my reads

I'm experimenting with taking notes while playing mafia and tldr they're barely in my notes so far

feels like that might mean something. specifically mean something scummy. gtg soon tho

based

[pyxxy]

interesting posts from seanzie and bereft in the past hour innit

oops not bereft, i meant pyxxy

cure you sheep and your bereft list

It's True! I Read Sheep's Post And It Cured My Toes!

[Sheep]

@Seanzie u are voting for one of my toe core and getting voted by another one of my toe cores

U are mafia and u will be chopped in about 19 hours

Toe cores sound painful.

Who was voting for me, and why is Bereft town?

Toe cores

anyhow
seanzie talk to me about your bereft read

I feel achieveing a read on you is two steps ahead of me and seeing your bereft read would be the last puzzle piece since your ISO rn just reads kind of like disjointed i guess?

[Seanzie]

@Seanzie u are voting for one of my toe core and getting voted by another one of my toe cores

U are mafia and u will be chopped in about 19 hours

Toe cores sound painful.

Who was voting for me, and why is Bereft town?

Toe cores

anyhow
seanzie talk to me about your bereft read

They're outed mafia. They've done nothing but focus on weird irrelevant things and not take stances while lightly shading Lucy. They more-or-less tried to discredit Rondo, whom is a difficult person for scum to play around (this is assuming Rondo is town, which has at least like a 72.89% chance of being true), and they claimed to be townspewed even though I don't see it. The last game I played with them, I almost instantly got the feeling that they had a depth of understanding of the gamestate far beyond what some of their posts suggested, and I have not gotten that feeling at all here (they were town last game, so this is a pretty stark contrast from that). Besides, they're outed mafia.

[Sheep]

as they say somewhere

what you leave for tomorrow grows by 50% the next time you check

[Seanzie]

interesting posts from seanzie and bereft in the past hour innit

I am pretty interesting.

What exactly is interesting about our posts?

[Seanzie]

I feel drawn to syn le petit and bereft

Drawn in what way?

lack of experience with them + lack of noting towny vibes during my reads

I'm experimenting with taking notes while playing mafia and tldr they're barely in my notes so far

feels like that might mean something. specifically mean something scummy. gtg soon tho

Ehh... I was really hoping we were mindmelding and just gonna nail the team out of the park on D1 together. Oh well, more credit for me when we win on D3 against this exact team.

[Seanzie]

@Seanzie u are voting for one of my toe core and getting voted by another one of my toe cores

U are mafia and u will be chopped in about 19 hours

Toe cores sound painful.

Who was voting for me, and why is Bereft town?

Toe cores

anyhow
seanzie talk to me about your bereft read

I feel achieveing a read on you is two steps ahead of me and seeing your bereft read would be the last puzzle piece since your ISO rn just reads kind of like disjointed i guess?

Did you not see my bareft read in my ISO?

[Seanzie]

interesting posts from seanzie and bereft in the past hour innit

I am pretty interesting.

What exactly is interesting about our posts?

I see now that you meant me and Pyxxy. I'd still be interested to hear what interests you.

[Sheep]

@Seanzie u are voting for one of my toe core and getting voted by another one of my toe cores

U are mafia and u will be chopped in about 19 hours

Toe cores sound painful.

Who was voting for me, and why is Bereft town?

Toe cores

anyhow
seanzie talk to me about your bereft read

They're outed mafia. They've done nothing but focus on weird irrelevant things and not take stances while lightly shading Lucy. They more-or-less tried to discredit Rondo, whom is a difficult person for scum to play around (this is assuming Rondo is town, which has at least like a 72.89% chance of being true), and they claimed to be townspewed even though I don't see it. The last game I played with them, I almost instantly got the feeling that they had a depth of understanding of the gamestate far beyond what some of their posts suggested, and I have not gotten that feeling at all here (they were town last game, so this is a pretty stark contrast from that). Besides, they're outed mafia.

Hmm.
1) "Claiming to be townspewed"-- I'm 83.2% sure is because everybody was townreading him
2) Trying to discredit rondo -- I kind of agree with him on this so idk what to tell you
3) Rondo is a difficult for scum to play around -- He's also difficult for town to play around? Unless you think that Rondo is only pushing wolves and everybody should just recognize that which I don't think you do
4) "Done nothing but focus on weird irrelevant things" / lacking "the feeling that they had a depth of understanding of the gamestate far beyond what some of their posts suggested" -- Lemme think about this one I get where you're coming from but I'm not sure why I don't agree
5) lightly shading lucy -- meh whatever

[Sheep]

@Seanzie u are voting for one of my toe core and getting voted by another one of my toe cores

U are mafia and u will be chopped in about 19 hours

Toe cores sound painful.

Who was voting for me, and why is Bereft town?

Toe cores

anyhow
seanzie talk to me about your bereft read

I feel achieveing a read on you is two steps ahead of me and seeing your bereft read would be the last puzzle piece since your ISO rn just reads kind of like disjointed i guess?

Did you not see my bareft read in my ISO?

No but I have been known to miss blatantly obvious things in people's ISOs before

[Sheep]

@Seanzie u are voting for one of my toe core and getting voted by another one of my toe cores

U are mafia and u will be chopped in about 19 hours

Toe cores sound painful.

Who was voting for me, and why is Bereft town?

Toe cores

anyhow
seanzie talk to me about your bereft read

They're outed mafia. They've done nothing but focus on weird irrelevant things and not take stances while lightly shading Lucy. They more-or-less tried to discredit Rondo, whom is a difficult person for scum to play around (this is assuming Rondo is town, which has at least like a 72.89% chance of being true), and they claimed to be townspewed even though I don't see it. The last game I played with them, I almost instantly got the feeling that they had a depth of understanding of the gamestate far beyond what some of their posts suggested, and I have not gotten that feeling at all here (they were town last game, so this is a pretty stark contrast from that). Besides, they're outed mafia.

Hmm.
1) "Claiming to be townspewed"-- I'm 83.2% sure is because everybody was townreading him
2) Trying to discredit rondo -- I kind of agree with him on this so idk what to tell you
3) Rondo is a difficult for scum to play around -- He's also difficult for town to play around? Unless you think that Rondo is only pushing wolves and everybody should just recognize that which I don't think you do
4) "Done nothing but focus on weird irrelevant things" / lacking "the feeling that they had a depth of understanding of the gamestate far beyond what some of their posts suggested" -- Lemme think about this one I get where you're coming from but I'm not sure why I don't agree
5) lightly shading lucy -- meh whatever

w/rt the 5th one it just seems liek the type of thing bereft would do as either alignment

[Seanzie]

@Seanzie u are voting for one of my toe core and getting voted by another one of my toe cores

U are mafia and u will be chopped in about 19 hours

Toe cores sound painful.

Who was voting for me, and why is Bereft town?

Toe cores

anyhow
seanzie talk to me about your bereft read

They're outed mafia. They've done nothing but focus on weird irrelevant things and not take stances while lightly shading Lucy. They more-or-less tried to discredit Rondo, whom is a difficult person for scum to play around (this is assuming Rondo is town, which has at least like a 72.89% chance of being true), and they claimed to be townspewed even though I don't see it. The last game I played with them, I almost instantly got the feeling that they had a depth of understanding of the gamestate far beyond what some of their posts suggested, and I have not gotten that feeling at all here (they were town last game, so this is a pretty stark contrast from that). Besides, they're outed mafia.

Hmm.
1) "Claiming to be townspewed"-- I'm 83.2% sure is because everybody was townreading him
2) Trying to discredit rondo -- I kind of agree with him on this so idk what to tell you
3) Rondo is a difficult for scum to play around -- He's also difficult for town to play around? Unless you think that Rondo is only pushing wolves and everybody should just recognize that which I don't think you do
4) "Done nothing but focus on weird irrelevant things" / lacking "the feeling that they had a depth of understanding of the gamestate far beyond what some of their posts suggested" -- Lemme think about this one I get where you're coming from but I'm not sure why I don't agree
5) lightly shading lucy -- meh whatever

1) that may be the case, but if so idk why they would be. Bad ISO.

2) meh...

3) No, Rondo is easy to play around as town, you just ignore him and if he doesn't have a pelt by D3 you turbo him.

4) Yes, please get back to me. I really think he's a hit.

5) meh to you too.

[Sheep]

lucy page 1 feels less solve-y than I would expect tbh

lucy page 2 is towny uh idk genuine, agreeable smth smth

uh page 3 sure is something not something i've seen from lucy before idt

[Syn]

interesting posts from seanzie and bereft in the past hour innit

I am pretty interesting.

What exactly is interesting about our posts?

the mouth feel

[Sheep]

@Seanzie u are voting for one of my toe core and getting voted by another one of my toe cores

U are mafia and u will be chopped in about 19 hours

Toe cores sound painful.

Who was voting for me, and why is Bereft town?

Toe cores

anyhow
seanzie talk to me about your bereft read

They're outed mafia. They've done nothing but focus on weird irrelevant things and not take stances while lightly shading Lucy. They more-or-less tried to discredit Rondo, whom is a difficult person for scum to play around (this is assuming Rondo is town, which has at least like a 72.89% chance of being true), and they claimed to be townspewed even though I don't see it. The last game I played with them, I almost instantly got the feeling that they had a depth of understanding of the gamestate far beyond what some of their posts suggested, and I have not gotten that feeling at all here (they were town last game, so this is a pretty stark contrast from that). Besides, they're outed mafia.

Hmm.
1) "Claiming to be townspewed"-- I'm 83.2% sure is because everybody was townreading him
2) Trying to discredit rondo -- I kind of agree with him on this so idk what to tell you
3) Rondo is a difficult for scum to play around -- He's also difficult for town to play around? Unless you think that Rondo is only pushing wolves and everybody should just recognize that which I don't think you do
4) "Done nothing but focus on weird irrelevant things" / lacking "the feeling that they had a depth of understanding of the gamestate far beyond what some of their posts suggested" -- Lemme think about this one I get where you're coming from but I'm not sure why I don't agree
5) lightly shading lucy -- meh whatever

1) that may be the case, but if so idk why they would be. Bad ISO.

2) meh...

3) No, Rondo is easy to play around as town, you just ignore him and if he doesn't have a pelt by D3 you turbo him.

4) Yes, please get back to me. I really think he's a hit.

5) meh to you too.

oh
why can't wolves just ignore rondo

I think the townspew argument is like if he was a wolf people would have been pushing him more before that point

[Bereft]

If it helps, I am now heavily shading lucy at the same time as pretending they don't exist.
Lucy is not actually sorry about their ATE at all.
It is quite obvious to me that it was not genuine.
Seanzie thinks its a reaction test, but he cannot point to anything that Lucy has supposedly gained here.

If Lucy and Neon are both wolves then what they have done is play extremely transparently and I would be disappointed in them.

[Sheep]

I don't want to vote rask

but I don't see any better options atm tbh.

[Sheep]

oh right neon

[Sheep]

@lucy @DrWilgy @Sheep @Neon @Bereft @Cape90 @Le petit poussin @pyxxy @Syn @RondoDimBuckle @Seanzie @falcon45ca @Porscha

Could you try making reads on these 5 players?

lucy
wilgy
cape
neon
tutuu

I could try. I'm not going to though there's nothing to read

it's somewhat hard to think you are town about 90% of the time this game ngl

I'm so far out of my wolf meta it's hilarious

wow
Can any neon readers confirm