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Re: Game of Champions 2022 D7
in 3:49 am here im going to bed
tomorrow im reading golden's iso and the hood chat
i do not wish to read any more posts or discord messages that are pre-emptively blaming anyone for hypotethically being wrong
emotional terrorism (holding people hostage) does not belong in a honorable game of mafia
if you are gonna AtE do it the honorable way - call yourself garbage and bad. beg to be spared that way. dont include other people in it. defend yourself but dont attack with it.
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tomorrow im reading golden's iso and the hood chat
i do not wish to read any more posts or discord messages that are pre-emptively blaming anyone for hypotethically being wrong
emotional terrorism (holding people hostage) does not belong in a honorable game of mafia
if you are gonna AtE do it the honorable way - call yourself garbage and bad. beg to be spared that way. dont include other people in it. defend yourself but dont attack with it.
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Re: Game of Champions 2022 D7
If Golden pulled that shit with SVS, that's some fucking balls
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Re: Game of Champions 2022 D7
Well, look. You’re the one who found lockclear evidence in the chat that I hadn’t even thought ofParty Crasher wrote: ↑Mon Mar 06, 2023 9:43 pmbecause the pertinent part of that is expecting dizzy and us to cross-vote, not the boilerplate you tagged on afterward (obviously you're going to say you have to solve between us. what are you going to do instead? say "and then I can just vote whoever and win gg"?)
If you don’t think that is lockclear evidence and it’s faked, I can’t do anything about that.
You say dizzy has better mech. You have literal proof that I neighboured Alison on day one and the content of our discussion. I cannot do more to mech clear myself than that.
If you think it’s a massive con that Alison and I cooked together and tinfoil that, I can’t do anything with that.
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Re: Game of Champions 2022 D4
Why is this post still bothering me so much
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Re: Game of Champions 2022 D7
@Golden Please talk to me. I want to hear more about how you think it's possible that I'm mafia, and how you think it's not possible that it's PC
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I had the exact same reaction hereParty Crasher wrote: ↑Tue Feb 21, 2023 7:56 pm MARMOT IS REFUSING TO VOTE MAC SO THEY DONT DIE. THEY ARE IGNORING IT. THEY ARE TRYING TO GET AWAY WITH HUMOR BY SELF-VOTING
MARMOT IS OUTED WOLF
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Re: Game of Champions 2022 D4
this was written by sheep
he's a nerd coming from AOPS (art of problem solving)
he's just awkward like that i dunno
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Re: Game of Champions 2022 D4
Oh. That's actually maybe reassuring. I don't know.Party Crasher wrote: ↑Mon Mar 06, 2023 9:53 pmthis was written by sheep
he's a nerd coming from AOPS (art of problem solving)
he's just awkward like that i dunno
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It’s not ate, I apologise for it coming across that way.Party Crasher wrote: ↑Mon Mar 06, 2023 9:49 pm in 3:49 am here im going to bed
tomorrow im reading golden's iso and the hood chat
i do not wish to read any more posts or discord messages that are pre-emptively blaming anyone for hypotethically being wrong
emotional terrorism (holding people hostage) does not belong in a honorable game of mafia
if you are gonna AtE do it the honorable way - call yourself garbage and bad. beg to be spared that way. dont include other people in it. defend yourself but dont attack with it.
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I will be disappointed at how today is playing out. If you want to talk honour, I am incredibly shocked to see what you have done with neighbourhood chat, just posting your own angle on it in here without further questioning or mentioning it in there in advance.
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Re: Game of Champions 2022 D7
Problem is reading into PC's reactions to other mafia is dubious if they are lost wolf anyway. But then I don't know if there has to be a lost wolf.
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Re: Game of Champions 2022 D7
So my theory was that maybe Golden had said that they suspected me to PC to bait them. But that didn't pan out.
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Re: Game of Champions 2022 D7
I think it could be either of you, and the way PC has handled being neighboured is alarming to me.Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Mon Mar 06, 2023 9:52 pm @Golden Please talk to me. I want to hear more about how you think it's possible that I'm mafia, and how you think it's not possible that it's PC
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It really wasn’t like that. It was just an honest statement of how I was feeling… more likely you than them, but they are the ones where neighbouring is more helpful for me to get a better read.Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Mon Mar 06, 2023 9:57 pm So my theory was that maybe Golden had said that they suspected me to PC to bait them. But that didn't pan out.
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Re: Game of Champions 2022 D7
Well, you can take your time. I might go to bed soon, but interested in every bit of thought you have.Golden wrote: ↑Mon Mar 06, 2023 9:57 pmI think it could be either of you, and the way PC has handled being neighboured is alarming to me.Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Mon Mar 06, 2023 9:52 pm @Golden Please talk to me. I want to hear more about how you think it's possible that I'm mafia, and how you think it's not possible that it's PC
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Re: Game of Champions 2022 D7
Why is that? If you suspect me more, why not neighbour me?Golden wrote: ↑Mon Mar 06, 2023 9:58 pmIt really wasn’t like that. It was just an honest statement of how I was feeling… more likely you than them, but they are the ones where neighbouring is more helpful for me to get a better read.Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Mon Mar 06, 2023 9:57 pm So my theory was that maybe Golden had said that they suspected me to PC to bait them. But that didn't pan out.
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Re: Game of Champions 2022 D7
I’m gonna take the full 48 hours.Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Mon Mar 06, 2023 9:59 pmWell, you can take your time. I might go to bed soon, but interested in every bit of thought you have.Golden wrote: ↑Mon Mar 06, 2023 9:57 pmI think it could be either of you, and the way PC has handled being neighboured is alarming to me.Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Mon Mar 06, 2023 9:52 pm @Golden Please talk to me. I want to hear more about how you think it's possible that I'm mafia, and how you think it's not possible that it's PC
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Re: Game of Champions 2022 D7
I don’t think I’d get a better read on you by neighbouring you. If anything, I think I’d be less likely to detect if you’re wolf, I’d let you pocket me.Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Mon Mar 06, 2023 9:59 pmWhy is that? If you suspect me more, why not neighbour me?Golden wrote: ↑Mon Mar 06, 2023 9:58 pmIt really wasn’t like that. It was just an honest statement of how I was feeling… more likely you than them, but they are the ones where neighbouring is more helpful for me to get a better read.Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Mon Mar 06, 2023 9:57 pm So my theory was that maybe Golden had said that they suspected me to PC to bait them. But that didn't pan out.
Tbh I think if I was wolf I probably would have neighboured you lol but who can say for sure.
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Re: Game of Champions 2022 D7
all posts regarding what you've said in the neighbourhood have been made by synGolden wrote: ↑Mon Mar 06, 2023 9:55 pm
I will be disappointed at how today is playing out. If you want to talk honour, I am incredibly shocked to see what you have done with neighbourhood chat, just posting your own angle on it in here without further questioning or mentioning it in there in advance.
let's assess these "my own angle" claims:
1. you took issue with me using the word tinfoil
-- I cannot prove you are lying because doing so would break the rules and get us mod-killed. dizzy has to make a decision for themself what to believe. but i will say i am comfortable with stating you used the word tinfoil
2. you took issue with me not including the additional tidbit that you "have to solve between us" when i posted that you want dizzy and us to cross-vote
-- I explained why I didn't, and I feel the logic stands up to scrutiny
furthermore... why exactly would we tell you what we're about to do? I know you tried to tie us together by neighbourizing us, but we're not beholden or accountable to you. you are welcome to post your opinion about what we've said in neighbourhood chat! dizzy would love to know!
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Re: Game of Champions 2022 D7
Why is this happening to me
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Re: Game of Champions 2022 D7
I would actually like to know what's been going on in the chat
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Re: Game of Champions 2022 D7
there was some nitpicking about golden's role (theming/flavour/town utility), and golden also made an additional role claim (lol) but tutuu posted up thread that they want to keep it hidden for a while longer and I guess I will respect that (though I have no idea why)Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Mon Mar 06, 2023 10:06 pm I would actually like to know what's been going on in the chat
also an insistence that we read chat history, which I think tutuu and sheep are doing/have done. I myself read golden's interactions with alison and saw enough.
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Re: Game of Champions 2022 D7
syn is a free elf and has been given permission to reveal the extra role claim
golden claims people within the neighbourhood cannot shoot each other
so the full claim at this point is something like:
1. creates neighbourhood every night
2. redirects kills onto someone else in neighbourhood
3. can choose to protect someone in neighbourhood
4. people within neighbourhood cannot shoot each other
golden claims people within the neighbourhood cannot shoot each other
so the full claim at this point is something like:
1. creates neighbourhood every night
2. redirects kills onto someone else in neighbourhood
3. can choose to protect someone in neighbourhood
4. people within neighbourhood cannot shoot each other
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Re: Game of Champions 2022 D7
I have not been holding back the existence of the additional part of my role claim in this thread. I’ve alluded to it several times.
May as well just say it here, neighbours can’t shoot neighbours.
May as well just say it here, neighbours can’t shoot neighbours.
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Re: Game of Champions 2022 D7
I don't know how that piece of information is supposed to change anything for me
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Re: Game of Champions 2022 D7
Three doesn’t exist and 2 is a single kill and isn’t a controlled redirection.Party Crasher wrote: ↑Mon Mar 06, 2023 10:18 pm syn is a free elf and has been given permission to reveal the extra role claim
golden claims people within the neighbourhood cannot shoot each other
so the full claim at this point is something like:
1. creates neighbourhood every night
2. redirects kills onto someone else in neighbourhood
3. can choose to protect someone in neighbourhood
4. people within neighbourhood cannot shoot each other
And none of the protections operate if the kill would end the game.
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Re: Game of Champions 2022 D7
WAIT.
How did you bait Alison to shoot you if she can't shoot you being in the naighbourhood @Golden
How did you bait Alison to shoot you if she can't shoot you being in the naighbourhood @Golden
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Re: Game of Champions 2022 D7
LOLDyslexicon wrote: ↑Mon Mar 06, 2023 10:22 pm WAIT.
How did you bait Alison to shoot you if she can't shoot you being in the naighbourhood @Golden
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Re: Game of Champions 2022 D7
Eagerly awaiting the answer
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Re: Game of Champions 2022 D7
The ‘neighbours can’t shoot neighbours’ applies amongst the rest of the group… I needed to get to having two others in the chat before it took effect.Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Mon Mar 06, 2023 10:22 pm WAIT.
How did you bait Alison to shoot you if she can't shoot you being in the naighbourhood @Golden
The rule that relates to me is that on the first cycle where I was targeted for a kill, members of my neighbourhood up to the number of kills I was targeted for would die in my place.
Otherwise, I would die.
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Re: Game of Champions 2022 D7
That's such a complicated role. Like what
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Re: Game of Champions 2022 D7
So basically it’s:
You can neighbour people:
This rule applies to kill attempts on you
This rule applies to kill attempts on your neighbours.
The exception that if it would end the game was debited by a footnote with a little ^. This stood out to me because I would use a *
You can neighbour people:
This rule applies to kill attempts on you
This rule applies to kill attempts on your neighbours.
The exception that if it would end the game was debited by a footnote with a little ^. This stood out to me because I would use a *
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Re: Game of Champions 2022 D7
I know! And this seems to be the basis of suspicion on me but, like, I can’t control that!
Nor can I, by the way, make up my role name. I just can’t.
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Re: Game of Champions 2022 D7
I've said it before, but whatever alignment you both have, I'm impressed. This is top tier mafia play.
I'm going to sleep and try to not think about the game.
I'm going to sleep and try to not think about the game.
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Re: Game of Champions 2022 D7
Oh I just found where I used the word tinfoil. It was yesterday after the flip when I was making my selection of you vs pc. So I concede I did in fact say it, it just wasn’t part of todays convo.
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Also as far as me ‘insisting’ PC read back… it was hardly that. It was a response to tutuu’s disbelief that they hadn’t solved the game at me being two-shot and me actually truthfully having tried to neighbour all the people I said. It was literally just me saying ‘I did target those people, honest’.
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Re: Game of Champions 2022 D7
I did not push turn to read back and I’m not going to comment on their interpretation of what they find there. That’s for them.
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Re: Game of Champions 2022 D7
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Re: Game of Champions 2022 D7
Diference check on golden/dizzy tbh
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Re: Game of Champions 2022 D7
This is how I feel tooDyslexicon wrote: ↑Mon Mar 06, 2023 10:35 pm I've said it before, but whatever alignment you both have, I'm impressed. This is top tier mafia play.
I'm going to sleep and try to not think about the game.
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Re: Game of Champions 2022 D7
guys tutuu just got a role PM and one of the hydra heads is actually the last mafia. Sorry about that. (This is not serious)
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Re: Game of Champions 2022 D7
Cue nanook actually having a ‘last head standing’ contest.Party Crasher wrote: ↑Mon Mar 06, 2023 10:56 pm guys tutuu just got a role PM and one of the hydra heads is actually the last mafia. Sorry about that. (This is not serious)
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Re: Game of Champions 2022 D7
I have a good idea that is sure not to fail in any way shape or form, and that's why I'm not telling any of you.
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Re: Game of Champions 2022 D7
Hey PC
Since you refused to tell me in chat.
Why don’t you honestly say what’s up with your role. It either says lylo or it protects you from nk/contests etc, not both.
Which is it?
Since you refused to tell me in chat.
Why don’t you honestly say what’s up with your role. It either says lylo or it protects you from nk/contests etc, not both.
Which is it?
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Party Crasher wrote: ↑Sun Mar 05, 2023 4:12 pm Our role just says that the first time we die, we dont
We had to clarify extra from that, if it works for chop. Then, we found out it doesnt work in lylo
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The answer to this is that I was quite clear in the neighbourhood that I was considering both of you and was going to do my due diligence and not hammer so I don’t think in any world they actually believed I’d made my mind up.Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Mon Mar 06, 2023 9:00 pmGolden is apparently thinking I'm the wolf. If Golden thinks this and PC knows that, why not go with it and get me chopped? Unless they already posted in thread it was Golden?
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What do you mean you ‘found out’?Party Crasher wrote: ↑Mon Mar 06, 2023 11:05 pmParty Crasher wrote: ↑Sun Mar 05, 2023 4:12 pm Our role just says that the first time we die, we dont
We had to clarify extra from that, if it works for chop. Then, we found out it doesnt work in lylo
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Re: Game of Champions 2022 D7
Are you suggesting it’s not on your role card?
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Re: Game of Champions 2022 D7
I just wouldn’tDyslexicon wrote: ↑Mon Mar 06, 2023 9:49 pm If Golden pulled that shit with SVS, that's some fucking balls
For me to be wolf this game I have to have fucking balls all over the place.
I have to neighbouring my own teammate… why? What’s the point? (Bet every answer to this could be met with why that’s low-percentage and obviously a bad move with even a little bit of thought and strategy).
I have to be party to two wolf kills on people I was targeting for neighbouring. Why? What’s the wolf upside there?
I have to boldly have saved svs in the thread, a move I only made after she claimed 3p when I’d otherwise called her anti-town all fake. Why abandon it when it would have been a perfect bus?
To believe I’m wolf is to believe I’ve created a massive wifom long con by doing a pile of low-percentage moves. Everyone here at endgame talking about how the wolf is playing a good wolf game, but the simple reality is if I’m wolf I have played a shit wolf game.
If I’m wolf neighbouriser im using it to build a towncore, I’m not publicly outing that I redirect a kill just because I’m not trying to learn if sig truly targeted me or Alison (what a strange move that would have been). Missing two neighbour shots on the wolf kills and losing that opportunity to influence the thread would be suicidally poor play.
I say the evidence I’m town is in the thread because it is. I’m only not town cleared because of paranoia.
I have said this so many tiles in the game but I think it is really clear and I think isoing me carefully and properly and doing due diligence reveals it to be true. A view that I am wolf cannot be sustained on the evidence. I do not think it is possible for other townies to reach the view I am wolf if they do the work. It just doesn’t make sense in any world.