notorious hedgehog 14 player mafia game wow! game thread [game over mafia won]

[tutuu]

(note to self - read from start of page 29)

i dont have anything else to add atp

[Porscha]

if we miss d2 then tomorrow it's me/syn cross again and mafia have more influence on the vote

us getting sorted today is optimal, i need to see worlds where syn is scum cause then i can start reading the game

syn scum=rondo town in all worlds, same with me/cape

@Porscha @tutuu

You can already see worlds where syn is scum

You yanking my chain here?

[robyn]

secondly and what's most important is that i am basically clear

this is because i was the most controversial player in d1 and my alignment ends up cracking the game open

therefore i am the most logical doctor option

because doctor is not dead that pretty clearly implies that i am town

rondo continuing to push me is just so fucking bad

Or doctor just didn't target you.

But anyways...

notorious hedgehog 14 player mafia game wow!aka amrock 14er

Roles:
1 town weak doctor
10 vanilla town

2 mafia goons
1 1-shot mafia rolestopper

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Stuff:

days will be 48 hours, nights will be 24 hours, days will start at 7PM eastern
post cap is 200, lifted 1 hour before eod
actions are due ~30 minutes before the end of the night
Alignment flips only ("x was town" or "x was mafia")
end of day ties = rand
hammers d2+, votes locked in lylo (not locked in mylo)
sleep is a valid vote
flavor will certainly be NAI but i am not fully sure what it will be, if anything
In this game players will be notified if they are roleblocked


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sample role pms

Spoiler: show

sup {name}, you are a vanilla townie

glhf

sup {name}, you are the town weak doctor

each night, you may pick a player. you will heal them from any attacks that happen that night. if you ever target a member of the mafia, you will instead die. you may not target the same player two times in a row.

glhf

sup {name}, you are a mafia goon. each night, the mafia must attack a player, killing them.

the mafia consist of:
{name1} - goon
{name2} - goon
{name3} - 1 shot rolestopper

you may talk at all times, starting now, in this scum discord: [discord link]

glhf

sup {name}, you are the mafia 1 shot rolestopper. each night, the mafia must attack a player, killing them. additionally, once per game, you may target any player (including yourself), roleblocking anybody targeting them tonight.

the mafia consist of:
{name1} - goon
{name2} - goon
{name3} - 1 shot rolestopper

you may talk at all times, starting now, in this scum discord: [discord link]

glhf

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What is the question. I donut understand.

@lucy we wouldnt know if the doctor died anyway

fair

Would you like to edit your original statement since it hinges on knowing whether the doctor is alive or not?

this setup annoyingly denied my argument mechanically, look at it probabilistically instead of in absolutes

[robyn]

if we miss d2 then tomorrow it's me/syn cross again and mafia have more influence on the vote

us getting sorted today is optimal, i need to see worlds where syn is scum cause then i can start reading the game

syn scum=rondo town in all worlds, same with me/cape

@Porscha @tutuu

You can already see worlds where syn is scum

You yanking my chain here?

i’m biased as fuck and i know i am and i’m annoyed at that

[robyn]

but i still thinks correct to go between me/syn today

[tutuu]

if we miss d2 then tomorrow it's me/syn cross again and mafia have more influence on the vote

us getting sorted today is optimal, i need to see worlds where syn is scum cause then i can start reading the game

syn scum=rondo town in all worlds, same with me/cape

@Porscha @tutuu

alright, thanks, when i have more energy ill see whats my play in response to this

[Porscha]

Or doctor just didn't target you.

But anyways...

notorious hedgehog 14 player mafia game wow!aka amrock 14er

Roles:
1 town weak doctor
10 vanilla town

2 mafia goons
1 1-shot mafia rolestopper

--
Stuff:

days will be 48 hours, nights will be 24 hours, days will start at 7PM eastern
post cap is 200, lifted 1 hour before eod
actions are due ~30 minutes before the end of the night
Alignment flips only ("x was town" or "x was mafia")
end of day ties = rand
hammers d2+, votes locked in lylo (not locked in mylo)
sleep is a valid vote
flavor will certainly be NAI but i am not fully sure what it will be, if anything
In this game players will be notified if they are roleblocked


--
sample role pms

Spoiler: show

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?

What is the question. I donut understand.

@lucy we wouldnt know if the doctor died anyway

fair

Would you like to edit your original statement since it hinges on knowing whether the doctor is alive or not?

this setup annoyingly denied my argument mechanically, look at it probabilistically instead of in absolutes

Lol well the probability doesnt matter much cuz it would mean each day you're alive and a town dies, you're more likely town
And that can be said about anyone

[tutuu]

@DrWilgy

if MY girl and Spright Carrot are both drowning and I can only save one you can catch me at my girl’s funeral detaching 1 from gigantic special summoning Blue TO ADD CARROT TO MY HAND AND THEN SPECIAL SUMMONING CARROT TO THE FIELD

[robyn]

?

What is the question. I donut understand.

@lucy we wouldnt know if the doctor died anyway

fair

Would you like to edit your original statement since it hinges on knowing whether the doctor is alive or not?

this setup annoyingly denied my argument mechanically, look at it probabilistically instead of in absolutes

Lol well the probability doesnt matter much cuz it would mean each day you're alive and a town dies, you're more likely mafia
And that can be said about anyone

fixed

[Porscha]

if we miss d2 then tomorrow it's me/syn cross again and mafia have more influence on the vote

us getting sorted today is optimal, i need to see worlds where syn is scum cause then i can start reading the game

syn scum=rondo town in all worlds, same with me/cape

@Porscha @tutuu

You can already see worlds where syn is scum

You yanking my chain here?

i’m biased as fuck and i know i am and i’m annoyed at that

I just dont quite understand why you're saying some things at all
Like you're just saying shit to say it
"Ah chop syn so I can see worlds where he is wolf" already kinda weird but ok, then
*proceeds to see worlds he is wolf* cool so then why do we have to chop him for you start seeing anything

[Porscha]

@DrWilgy

if MY girl and Spright Carrot are both drowning and I can only save one you can catch me at my girl’s funeral detaching 1 from gigantic special summoning Blue TO ADD CARROT TO MY HAND AND THEN SPECIAL SUMMONING CARROT TO THE FIELD

The lion tamer went on break, I see

[tutuu]

@DrWilgy

if MY girl and Spright Carrot are both drowning and I can only save one you can catch me at my girl’s funeral detaching 1 from gigantic special summoning Blue TO ADD CARROT TO MY HAND AND THEN SPECIAL SUMMONING CARROT TO THE FIELD

The lion tamer went on break, I see

smol smol

[Porscha]

@DrWilgy

if MY girl and Spright Carrot are both drowning and I can only save one you can catch me at my girl’s funeral detaching 1 from gigantic special summoning Blue TO ADD CARROT TO MY HAND AND THEN SPECIAL SUMMONING CARROT TO THE FIELD

The lion tamer went on break, I see

smol smol

True

[robyn]

if we miss d2 then tomorrow it's me/syn cross again and mafia have more influence on the vote

us getting sorted today is optimal, i need to see worlds where syn is scum cause then i can start reading the game

syn scum=rondo town in all worlds, same with me/cape

@Porscha @tutuu

You can already see worlds where syn is scum

You yanking my chain here?

i’m biased as fuck and i know i am and i’m annoyed at that

I just dont quite understand why you're saying some things at all
Like you're just saying shit to say it
"Ah chop syn so I can see worlds where he is wolf" already kinda weird but ok, then
*proceeds to see worlds he is wolf* cool so then why do we have to chop him for you start seeing anything

because i'm fucking stuck and i'm basically forced into this cross between me and syn and i'm kind of forced to scumread him. it's not a fucking organic read, it's contrived as shit. instead here i am basically forced into seeing a world where someone who has done NOTHING in this game except me is scum, it's hard to say that he is with confidence or anything else. ideally after a flip or two i would see if he's been townsiding or wolf siding after that but i don't have the luxury and i'm forced to prematurely evaluate him

[robyn]

i have to hope for the fucking best because i think it's mechanically correct to chop him over me but on the other i'm forced into this cross where multiple people have voted me and have done nothing else which is extremely aggravating

[robyn]

i have to hope for the fucking best because i think it's mechanically correct to chop him over me but on the other hand i'm forced into this cross where multiple people have voted me and have done nothing else which is extremely aggravating

[tutuu]

i cant sleep i feel like im in limbo right now. might finally be able to fix my sleep schedule if i just endure whole day awake. back to page 29

drwilgy made some better posts. pyxxy still looks scummy to me. seanzie's posts i didnt have an opinion for

if i participated at yesterday's eod i would have voted pyxxy

[tutuu]

if we miss d2 then tomorrow it's me/syn cross again and mafia have more influence on the vote

us getting sorted today is optimal, i need to see worlds where syn is scum cause then i can start reading the game

syn scum=rondo town in all worlds, same with me/cape

@Porscha @tutuu

You can already see worlds where syn is scum

You yanking my chain here?

i’m biased as fuck and i know i am and i’m annoyed at that

I just dont quite understand why you're saying some things at all
Like you're just saying shit to say it
"Ah chop syn so I can see worlds where he is wolf" already kinda weird but ok, then
*proceeds to see worlds he is wolf* cool so then why do we have to chop him for you start seeing anything

because i'm fucking stuck and i'm basically forced into this cross between me and syn and i'm kind of forced to scumread him. it's not a fucking organic read, it's contrived as shit. instead here i am basically forced into seeing a world where someone who has done NOTHING in this game except me is scum, it's hard to say that he is with confidence or anything else. ideally after a flip or two i would see if he's been townsiding or wolf siding after that but i don't have the luxury and i'm forced to prematurely evaluate him

an idea

what if lucy and syn are both town, and their playstyles are moon and day, and they dislike each other, and that's influencing themselves to scumread each other, when in reality they just dislike each other's gameplay

(i could be wrong, just an idea)

[tutuu]

Wow, where did this pyxxy wagon come from?

am i the only one finding sean scummy? i find this post scummy too

[robyn]

an idea

what if lucy and syn are both town, and their playstyles are moon and day, and they dislike each other, and that's influencing themselves to scumread each other, when in reality they just dislike each other's gameplay

(i could be wrong, just an idea)

i'm not the one you have to convince

[tutuu]

an idea

what if lucy and syn are both town, and their playstyles are moon and day, and they dislike each other, and that's influencing themselves to scumread each other, when in reality they just dislike each other's gameplay

(i could be wrong, just an idea)

i'm not the one you have to convince

im not sure if im right, and i dont feel confident in influencing this gamestate crossvote thing with my opinion

but just for argument's sake, if i were to feel confident - i would have to convince you, because you tried to convince porscha earlier, so you aren't a passive participant

[Porscha]

if we miss d2 then tomorrow it's me/syn cross again and mafia have more influence on the vote

us getting sorted today is optimal, i need to see worlds where syn is scum cause then i can start reading the game

syn scum=rondo town in all worlds, same with me/cape

@Porscha @tutuu

You can already see worlds where syn is scum

You yanking my chain here?

i’m biased as fuck and i know i am and i’m annoyed at that

I just dont quite understand why you're saying some things at all
Like you're just saying shit to say it
"Ah chop syn so I can see worlds where he is wolf" already kinda weird but ok, then
*proceeds to see worlds he is wolf* cool so then why do we have to chop him for you start seeing anything

because i'm fucking stuck and i'm basically forced into this cross between me and syn and i'm kind of forced to scumread him. it's not a fucking organic read, it's contrived as shit. instead here i am basically forced into seeing a world where someone who has done NOTHING in this game except me is scum, it's hard to say that he is with confidence or anything else. ideally after a flip or two i would see if he's been townsiding or wolf siding after that but i don't have the luxury and i'm forced to prematurely evaluate him

Lol okay... just had to reassure myself you're town

[tutuu]

secondly and what's most important is that i am basically clear

this is because i was the most controversial player in d1 and my alignment ends up cracking the game open

therefore i am the most logical doctor option

because doctor is not dead that pretty clearly implies that i am town

rondo continuing to push me is just so fucking bad

Or doctor just didn't target you.

But anyways...

i find the "But anyways..." line scummy

earlier i scumread raskol for "???" (yea i know. im just saying whats going thru my mind)

[Porscha]

if we miss d2 then tomorrow it's me/syn cross again and mafia have more influence on the vote

us getting sorted today is optimal, i need to see worlds where syn is scum cause then i can start reading the game

syn scum=rondo town in all worlds, same with me/cape

@Porscha @tutuu

You can already see worlds where syn is scum

You yanking my chain here?

i’m biased as fuck and i know i am and i’m annoyed at that

I just dont quite understand why you're saying some things at all
Like you're just saying shit to say it
"Ah chop syn so I can see worlds where he is wolf" already kinda weird but ok, then
*proceeds to see worlds he is wolf* cool so then why do we have to chop him for you start seeing anything

because i'm fucking stuck and i'm basically forced into this cross between me and syn and i'm kind of forced to scumread him. it's not a fucking organic read, it's contrived as shit. instead here i am basically forced into seeing a world where someone who has done NOTHING in this game except me is scum, it's hard to say that he is with confidence or anything else. ideally after a flip or two i would see if he's been townsiding or wolf siding after that but i don't have the luxury and i'm forced to prematurely evaluate him

an idea

what if lucy and syn are both town, and their playstyles are moon and day, and they dislike each other, and that's influencing themselves to scumread each other, when in reality they just dislike each other's gameplay

(i could be wrong, just an idea)

Yeh idk I tr'd both of them yesterday

[robyn]

an idea

what if lucy and syn are both town, and their playstyles are moon and day, and they dislike each other, and that's influencing themselves to scumread each other, when in reality they just dislike each other's gameplay

(i could be wrong, just an idea)

i'm not the one you have to convince

im not sure if im right, and i dont feel confident in influencing this gamestate crossvote thing with my opinion

but just for argument's sake, if i were to feel confident - i would have to convince you, because you tried to convince porscha earlier, so you aren't a passive participant

my primary motivation right now is to not get chopped

town only has 2 ML's left until lylo. I CANNOT allow myself to get shruglynched here

[tutuu]

secondly and what's most important is that i am basically clear

this is because i was the most controversial player in d1 and my alignment ends up cracking the game open

therefore i am the most logical doctor option

because doctor is not dead that pretty clearly implies that i am town

rondo continuing to push me is just so fucking bad

Or doctor just didn't target you.

But anyways...

i also somehow feel neon and lucy aren't w/w because of this post

would be impossible to explain this even if i tried

[Porscha]

secondly and what's most important is that i am basically clear

this is because i was the most controversial player in d1 and my alignment ends up cracking the game open

therefore i am the most logical doctor option

because doctor is not dead that pretty clearly implies that i am town

rondo continuing to push me is just so fucking bad

Or doctor just didn't target you.

But anyways...

i find the "But anyways..." line scummy

earlier i scumread raskol for "???" (yea i know. im just saying whats going thru my mind)

If you read it with the intent to humble instead of distract I dont feel like it's weird
But is that the best way to read it? Unsure

[tutuu]

secondly and what's most important is that i am basically clear

this is because i was the most controversial player in d1 and my alignment ends up cracking the game open

therefore i am the most logical doctor option

because doctor is not dead that pretty clearly implies that i am town

rondo continuing to push me is just so fucking bad

Or doctor just didn't target you.

But anyways...

i find the "But anyways..." line scummy

earlier i scumread raskol for "???" (yea i know. im just saying whats going thru my mind)

If you read it with the intent to humble instead of distract I dont feel like it's weird
But is that the best way to read it? Unsure

good observation and it cements my townread on you

[Porscha]

secondly and what's most important is that i am basically clear

this is because i was the most controversial player in d1 and my alignment ends up cracking the game open

therefore i am the most logical doctor option

because doctor is not dead that pretty clearly implies that i am town

rondo continuing to push me is just so fucking bad

Or doctor just didn't target you.

But anyways...

i find the "But anyways..." line scummy

earlier i scumread raskol for "???" (yea i know. im just saying whats going thru my mind)

If you read it with the intent to humble instead of distract I dont feel like it's weird
But is that the best way to read it? Unsure

good observation and it cements my townread on you

Why

[tutuu]

if lucy is mafia i think her most likely partner is neon

i found more neon posts on page .... um.

page 31

that also seemed non w/w

so ill just take lucy as town

she can always be in wolf range but - what can u do. probabilities and all

[robyn]

11v3
9v3
7v3
5v3
sleep
4v3

[tutuu]

Why

i found the observation good because i agreed with it

it cemented my townread on u coz u said something agreeable and it felt towny to me, i dunno

[Porscha]

Why

i found the observation good because i agreed with it

it cemented my townread on u coz u said something agreeable and it felt towny to me, i dunno

Damn that's really all it takes to enter pocket eh

[tutuu]

Tutuu feels like the town Tutuu I've played with but that's easily fakeable meta read anyways

my post here is unrelated to your line neon, but u just made me remember how much town ive randed in a row

i dont actually know, but im pretty sure it has to be around 30 at this point. not joking. i have had 2 scum games, everything else was town. in the near 10k posts my account has

[robyn]

11v3
9v3
7v3
5v3
sleep
4v3

3 ML's until lylo

assume syn just sacks his entire play to look unpartnered and votes me, then he dies after i'm lynched (not 100% guaranteed)

then it's two wolves with syn pairings and possible unpairings off easy messages with only 2 ML's left for victory

it's not impossible, just a thought

[Porscha]

Why

i found the observation good because i agreed with it

it cemented my townread on u coz u said something agreeable and it felt towny to me, i dunno

Damn that's really all it takes to enter pocket eh

I actually wonder if you're trying to pocket me

[tutuu]

i should probably shift my meta towards being consistently tryhard so that when i finally rand scum i can have an easy excuse to tryhard and carry

if i encourage a meta of me slacking and derping as town ill have to replicate that as scum and that will be bad. and if i tryhard as scum the stark difference will be noted. so that would be bad for me

but i just dont ... cant rly tryhard right now, not this game. maybe later if we're really behind, i can try my best

[robyn]

god i hate this gamestate and 3 votes on me, feels like i'm a worm

[tutuu]

Why

i found the observation good because i agreed with it

it cemented my townread on u coz u said something agreeable and it felt towny to me, i dunno

Damn that's really all it takes to enter pocket eh

I actually wonder if you're trying to pocket me

nah im just replying to everything with my honest thoughts, and whatever happens happens

[tutuu]

god i hate this gamestate and 3 votes on me, feels like i'm a worm

[tutuu]

is pyxxy towny?

a level 0 thought is that raskol died coz he voted pyxxy

shrug emoji

[tutuu]

i dont remember if i read pages between 31 and 34 i forgot. i feel like im a lucid dream right now. pretty sleep deprived

[robyn]

i dont remember if i read pages between 31 and 34 i forgot. i feel like im a lucid dream right now. pretty sleep deprived

did you read eod1 d1 and see the flip?

[robyn]

is pyxxy towny?

a level 0 thought is that raskol died coz he voted pyxxy

shrug emoji

i haven't seen his wolf game, i can't rely on meta with him ugh

[tutuu]

i dont remember if i read pages between 31 and 34 i forgot. i feel like im a lucid dream right now. pretty sleep deprived

did you read eod1 d1 and see the flip?

yeah

[robyn]

i dont remember if i read pages between 31 and 34 i forgot. i feel like im a lucid dream right now. pretty sleep deprived

did you read eod1 d1 and see the flip?

yeah

then u might've

[tutuu]

RondoDimBuckle
Cape90
Porscha

lucy
Syn
(i specifically want you two in your own separate tier of townreads :smiling_imp_emoji:

falcon45ca
Neon

Sheep
DrWilgy

pyxxy
Seanzie

-t

[tutuu]

is it selfish if it comes down to syn vs lucy if i just sheep one of my townreads? maybe but i just. dont think id like to choose. i just know i will choose wrong

[Porscha]

i should probably shift my meta towards being consistently tryhard so that when i finally rand scum i can have an easy excuse to tryhard and carry

if i encourage a meta of me slacking and derping as town ill have to replicate that as scum and that will be bad. and if i tryhard as scum the stark difference will be noted. so that would be bad for me

but i just dont ... cant rly tryhard right now, not this game. maybe later if we're really behind, i can try my best

Tbf... I empathize lol

[robyn]

is it selfish if it comes down to syn vs lucy if i just sheep one of my townreads? maybe but i just. dont think id like to choose. i just know i will choose wrong

porscha/cape tr me
rondo sr's me