Scooby Doo: Monster Collective (GAME OVER- MAFIA WIN)

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If creature, doom, LPP, and Rondo are all town that means neon has to be mafia.

I’m still town reading her, but I need to see more this phase

crea/DoOm are either ww or tt. I am leaning the later fwiw. (sheeping dunyas and mindmelding with some reads tbh)

Neon I only read the earlier stuff about scrappy, needs to read

Neon was town to me for tone mainly, but since then she used her entire post count within literally the first maybe 6 hours fighting with CR for day 2 and hasn’t done a lot (or any) scum hunting.


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[Kate]

I'm not wasting all of my posts on you

can you point me to some posts that you didn't waste on me/dennis

your focus is extraordinarily small and explicitly on me, i don't know if you scumread anyone or have tried to fucking suspect mafia lmao

why are you trying to kill third party and have stopped solving for mafia entirely?

I spent all night trying to do that. And you are gonna just hijack the thread again and have everyone fall in line. I'd love to hear even one person who knows me say I'm anywhere near my wold meta. And why haven't I found a wolf??? Why haven't you? Why hasn't anybody?? That's just silly.

i have 3 votes and petite twink and petite twink (sig) make 5

of course i'm hijacking the thread in the exact way i do as town

out your mech and enjoy my tunnel

the fun part is that my reads were exactly the same as mac's which drastically destroys your credibility since we're both scary as they come in the town alignment

enlighten me on your wolfreads in the night

You know, you are extremely unpleasant.

Have fun tunneling. I'm leaving the thread for a while. I'll be back.

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I'm not wasting all of my posts on you

can you point me to some posts that you didn't waste on me/dennis

your focus is extraordinarily small and explicitly on me, i don't know if you scumread anyone or have tried to fucking suspect mafia lmao

why are you trying to kill third party and have stopped solving for mafia entirely?

I spent all night trying to do that. And you are gonna just hijack the thread again and have everyone fall in line. I'd love to hear even one person who knows me say I'm anywhere near my wold meta. And why haven't I found a wolf??? Why haven't you? Why hasn't anybody?? That's just silly.

i have 3 votes and petite twink and petite twink (sig) make 5

of course i'm hijacking the thread in the exact way i do as town

out your mech and enjoy my tunnel

the fun part is that my reads were exactly the same as mac's which drastically destroys your credibility since we're both scary as they come in the town alignment

enlighten me on your wolfreads in the night

I’m more of a twunk tyvm

[robyn]

I'm not wasting all of my posts on you

can you point me to some posts that you didn't waste on me/dennis

your focus is extraordinarily small and explicitly on me, i don't know if you scumread anyone or have tried to fucking suspect mafia lmao

why are you trying to kill third party and have stopped solving for mafia entirely?

I spent all night trying to do that. And you are gonna just hijack the thread again and have everyone fall in line. I'd love to hear even one person who knows me say I'm anywhere near my wold meta. And why haven't I found a wolf??? Why haven't you? Why hasn't anybody?? That's just silly.

i have 3 votes and petite twink and petite twink (sig) make 5

of course i'm hijacking the thread in the exact way i do as town

out your mech and enjoy my tunnel

the fun part is that my reads were exactly the same as mac's which drastically destroys your credibility since we're both scary as they come in the town alignment

enlighten me on your wolfreads in the night

You know, you are extremely unpleasant.

Have fun tunneling. I'm leaving the thread for a while. I'll be back.

sorry about your rand

[Kate]

I don't believe for a second that scotty would give you, of all players, 3 votes.

[Le petit poussin]

heh lucy, something I didn't tell you last night. I have 3 votes too lmao.

#getrekt

[robyn]

lol wtf

[Dennis]

my push on kate was just to see dennis defend her and that's been cleverly displayed where dennis hard defends his TOWNLEAN not TOWNREAD LMAO

If you look at the big annoying post I made there is a difference between "town" and "townlean" and "town" means "townread"

okay but my question is why have you consistently defended kate d1/2 while she's only a townlean and you're not confident she's town + there's doubt that she's town from your point of view

Cause I am confident she's town. There's always doubt from my point of view that someone is scum and that's why I always get called hedgy (see that one post you screenshotted where I said but like 400 times in goc) because I always have doubts. The doubt is smaller than most people this game.

ty for defending yourself, now it'll be fun to case you

Yah okay I'll just sit down and die instead

I'm too invested in this game to just let you push me so aggressively and completely drive the thread into a choice between me and kate. I don't think you're townsiding anymore.

[Le petit poussin]

lol wtf

these dummy accounts

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my push on kate was just to see dennis defend her and that's been cleverly displayed where dennis hard defends his TOWNLEAN not TOWNREAD LMAO

If you look at the big annoying post I made there is a difference between "town" and "townlean" and "town" means "townread"

okay but my question is why have you consistently defended kate d1/2 while she's only a townlean and you're not confident she's town + there's doubt that she's town from your point of view

Cause I am confident she's town. There's always doubt from my point of view that someone is scum and that's why I always get called hedgy (see that one post you screenshotted where I said but like 400 times in goc) because I always have doubts. The doubt is smaller than most people this game.

ty for defending yourself, now it'll be fun to case you

Yah okay I'll just sit down and die instead

I'm too invested in this game to just let you push me so aggressively and completely drive the thread into a choice between me and kate. I don't think you're townsiding anymore.

Why are you voting lucy if you want it to be a Kate vs you then

[Dennis]

my push on kate was just to see dennis defend her and that's been cleverly displayed where dennis hard defends his TOWNLEAN not TOWNREAD LMAO

If you look at the big annoying post I made there is a difference between "town" and "townlean" and "town" means "townread"

okay but my question is why have you consistently defended kate d1/2 while she's only a townlean and you're not confident she's town + there's doubt that she's town from your point of view

Cause I am confident she's town. There's always doubt from my point of view that someone is scum and that's why I always get called hedgy (see that one post you screenshotted where I said but like 400 times in goc) because I always have doubts. The doubt is smaller than most people this game.

ty for defending yourself, now it'll be fun to case you

Yah okay I'll just sit down and die instead

I'm too invested in this game to just let you push me so aggressively and completely drive the thread into a choice between me and kate. I don't think you're townsiding anymore.

Why are you voting lucy if you want it to be a Kate vs you then

I don't??? I literally said there that I'm NOT about to just let thread get driven there.

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If you look at the big annoying post I made there is a difference between "town" and "townlean" and "town" means "townread"

okay but my question is why have you consistently defended kate d1/2 while she's only a townlean and you're not confident she's town + there's doubt that she's town from your point of view

Cause I am confident she's town. There's always doubt from my point of view that someone is scum and that's why I always get called hedgy (see that one post you screenshotted where I said but like 400 times in goc) because I always have doubts. The doubt is smaller than most people this game.

ty for defending yourself, now it'll be fun to case you

Yah okay I'll just sit down and die instead

I'm too invested in this game to just let you push me so aggressively and completely drive the thread into a choice between me and kate. I don't think you're townsiding anymore.

Why are you voting lucy if you want it to be a Kate vs you then

I don't??? I literally said there that I'm NOT about to just let thread get driven there.

Ooops misread the post.


Well even more reason to make it a choice between Kate and Dennis then

[RondoDimBuckle]

I was in a chat with Mac/Katie here’s what we found out/some notes I’ve jotted down I’m posting this first thing.

1. kangaroo meat is illegal to eat in California and doesn’t taste very good

2. The joint POE is Doom, dunya, hk, Wilgy, Jdizz, Kate, (not by Kate lol) Dennis, and Rondo. Rondo is the least likely out of this group.

3. The chocolate I got Kate for secret Santa was amazing

4. Giving Dunya/LPP a day since usually pretty towny (according to Mac) has a strong skill set and tries to solve doesnt slank as town. If they haven’t showcased that within the first half of the day they’re a good target to be voted off.

Smaller set of POE by Mac halfway through our chat

4. Dunya
5. Roxy
6. Kate
7. Dennis

Potentially creature this came about later in day due to his reaction to DOOM and her giving him a gun. Mac believed he didn’t know how to react thus causing his lack of posting/ignoring of DOOM

Katie did some minor role fishing, which she says wasn’t role fishing and Mac instructed me to get Kate voted off if he dies. I’m still up in the air about this though.

Mac didn’t make a second appearance after the first night this low key sketched me out and if he isn’t shot and either me or Katie die I’m 100% convinced he’s scum I’ve passed this thought to Katie also.

We also made the joint (I think) agreement that if we get to F5 and Mac is still alive he’s probably deep wolfing unless he’s lead every wagon correctly.

Ok I sheep Kate/sig

[robyn]

I don't believe for a second that scotty would give you, of all players, 3 votes.

funny right

[RondoDimBuckle]

MacDougall and Roxy/RondoDimBuckle are the same alignment.

I mean I thought that was obvious without a cop check. I called Mac town yesterday and sheeped him because my slot was obv town before I joined

[RondoDimBuckle]

I won't explain it but Rondo is an IC

given mac flipped town
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How does Mac flipping town town me?

[Le petit poussin]

@Creature can you confirm DoOm's stuff pls?

@sig: I see pyxxy sussing DoOm too before EOD. Prolly something to keep in mind if it gets ugly.

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@hollowkatt @Creature

2 questions

1. Why are you both on Wilgy

2 you both town read Dennis right? Going into D3 what are your thoughts on him and Kate

[JDizz10]

Can we kill Lucy already

[Dennis]

Hell lucy probably predicted me because who knows. Maybe she guessed me instead of Kate and lied or whatever. But she knows I get pissed off easy and then I look like a wolf that's mad at getting caught. All lucy has done here is laugh at me, say I outed myself and push my fucking buttons until I get angry. Like christ this happens every game and I am so tired of it. The one time I actually randed mafia I didn't even get caught is the funniest part. I'm done with this game for a while bye.

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@Creature can you confirm DoOm's stuff pls?

@sig: I see pyxxy sussing DoOm too before EOD. Prolly something to keep in mind if it gets ugly.

Good call out.

They’re definitely scum in waiting especially if they lied about their roll which I’m still waiting on an answer from either creature or DOOM about it.

Since she said she gave out a shot, creature said she gave out a check?

[robyn]

@lucy Please explain why you being scrappy means you're not mafia. And don't just say because you're 3p. Everything you have said since day 1 leads me to think you are scum, and claiming 3p and scrappy don't change that

1) you townreads are still the same alignment
2) i've been consistently plyaying mafia for the past 8 months here and i have over 15,000 posts among these sites and accounts. my playstyle has changed drastically
3) i did not claim under pressure, there was no mafia incentive for me to claim. I was virtually consensus town and nobody was suspecting me, what mafia motivation do i have to claim?

there aren't any other reasons for me to really claim, i wasn't caught being mafia and i wasn't copped (there aren't cops in these games), i claimed by my own volition and i've been townsiding even if we disagree on reads

why do you believe i'm scum?

@JDizz10

[Le petit poussin]

@Rondo: u just quoted the post crea said you and Mac had the same alignment. HK prolly read crea's post before mine. that's my understanding of it at least

[falcon45ca]

[VOTE: wilgy] aubergine

[Le petit poussin]

lucy is right about no cops in these games (disclaimer: I don't know the site culture regarding game design, but plain cops are just bad in term og balance and fun imo), did we get a claim from creature D1/D2? might look at this before going to bed lmao

[Creature]

@Creature can you confirm DoOm's stuff pls?

@sig: I see pyxxy sussing DoOm too before EOD. Prolly something to keep in mind if it gets ugly.

I am confirming DoOm's stuff.

[Le petit poussin]

@Creature can you confirm DoOm's stuff pls?

@sig: I see pyxxy sussing DoOm too before EOD. Prolly something to keep in mind if it gets ugly.

I am confirming DoOm's stuff.

tx. prolly a good look for both of you that lucy is still alive then (guess maf would have shot this slot).

shoot today fwiw (someone mentionned a soup kill, didn't read through but check yourself at least), not too early, not too late. glgl

[Le petit poussin]

ok checked creature's iso, today mention was the mention he made about his role (ofc but still confused by the selected target, still movin on).

Wilgy's iso is worth some more pressuring (iirc the doc voted twice, a sheep on Chihiro and Rondo, which is odd). The sequence between him and falcon is weird tbh. If it wasn't for his renewed vote id say that's ww. but there is this vote, ok for now.

[VOTE: Dr. Wilgy] aubergine

[robyn]

ew no, vote dennis uwu

[DaughterOfOmega]

I think im between Dennis and Kate for today

[hollowkatt]

@HK: where is your heat at rn?

*head (funny one)

I am withholding judgement on your slot until later today to see how you were posting. Dunya did not impress.
I was lock sure that chihiro was a wolf. they were not.

Rondo being IC via two sources means my POE is down to wigly and if I was that wrong on everyone else I'm kinda throwing that away and starting over again.

I still think Dennis is town. I'm town reading creature now as well, that's up from null bucket yesterday. Doom I think is lock town via creature

So me, dennis, creature, doom, sig town.

Lucy 3p at best, she controls scrappy as well.


who the fuck are fish and porpoise

[☆Princess Abigail☆]

Well ignore those points about Mac

@Neon please please please don’t burn your post count today

Good luck lol

[Le petit poussin]

ew no, vote dennis uwu

There is time for that (no hammer), and also I have big guns.

I wanna read kate first too (but tmr, past 1 am here and I gtg)

[☆Princess Abigail☆]

@Dennis sorry to inform you but kate is scum

Wrong woofy woof.

[robyn]

poe:rondo, dunya, chihiro

these are 3 town slots

gives me an icky feeling about creature

shouldn't it give you icky feelings about me? that was my list

they would but i don't think the accuracy of your reads is ai

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Well ignore those points about Mac

@Neon please please please don’t burn your post count today

Good luck lol

Lol this is why I keep town reading you.


General thoughts though?

[Le petit poussin]

@HK: where is your heat at rn?

*head (funny one)

I am withholding judgement on your slot until later today to see how you were posting. Dunya did not impress.
I was lock sure that chihiro was a wolf. they were not.

Rondo being IC via two sources means my POE is down to wigly and if I was that wrong on everyone else I'm kinda throwing that away and starting over again.

I still think Dennis is town. I'm town reading creature now as well, that's up from null bucket yesterday. Doom I think is lock town via creature

So me, dennis, creature, doom, sig town.

Lucy 3p at best, she controls scrappy as well.


who the fuck are fish and porpoise

I am porpoise lol. dummy account activated by location (Ocean something iirc). +2 votes for me today.

[hollowkatt]

If creature, doom, LPP, and Rondo are all town that means neon has to be mafia.

I’m still town reading her, but I need to see more this phase

I believe that's min 3 of 4 town yes, LPP being the potential outlier, but their posting thus far has been good enough to move the slot from POE into a more "lets see how the day goes and evaluate along the way"

[☆Princess Abigail☆]

Lucy is not town siding. Lucy has pushed her targets irregardless of their behavior. She has refused to reevaluate slots based on their content focusing solely on arguments to push slots ignoring their towny behavior. Jack was clearly town and Lucy did not ever move past the concept of flipping the CW which is a concept she has never espoused belief in as long as I've played with her. Town Lucy also has never treated anyone the way she has this game when pushed. Town Lucy doesn't threaten to hold the game hostage because she's pushed. Lily has pushed Lucy D1 before wrongfully and Lucy has responded positively and moved to improve her content in game. She did not hold the thread hostage and threaten to take her ball and go home.

[☆Princess Abigail☆]

Chihiros info does exist but it simply doesn't clear Chihiro and I refused to out it because all it would do is harm another player. I will continue to refuse to out it unless necessary but there IS a reason why my reads list includes the town reads on the people involved in this action. I shouldn't need to out info that will inherently harm town I should be able to soft confirmation of your role without you attacking me and it does make me more wary of Chihiro because although it makes no sense to use the ability on me if Chihiro is scum it does feel like they could be pushing for info that will help scum through me

[☆Princess Abigail☆]

Also you've now killed two players I've told you explicitly are obviously town 2 days in a row. So the people insulting my game to push towns that I've found are either scum or need to stop attacking my play when I've been right and you've been wrong thanks and good day.

[hollowkatt]

If creature, doom, LPP, and Rondo are all town that means neon has to be mafia.

I’m still town reading her, but I need to see more this phase

lpp is town, i've discussed with him a fuck ton in the night

1) we came to the dennis hard mafia thought
2) rondo/mac obv town because of the slots they subbed into
3) creature/doom kinda clear themselves off their interactions fmpov (not a le petite twink thought)

lol mac was only obvs town when he came into the game. crich was not obvs anything but tilted.

[DaughterOfOmega]

Chihiros info does exist but it simply doesn't clear Chihiro and I refused to out it because all it would do is harm another player. I will continue to refuse to out it unless necessary but there IS a reason why my reads list includes the town reads on the people involved in this action. I shouldn't need to out info that will inherently harm town I should be able to soft confirmation of your role without you attacking me and it does make me more wary of Chihiro because although it makes no sense to use the ability on me if Chihiro is scum it does feel like they could be pushing for info that will help scum through me

Is this a troll post?

[robyn]

Also you've now killed two players I've told you explicitly are obviously town 2 days in a row. So the people insulting my game to push towns that I've found are either scum or need to stop attacking my play when I've been right and you've been wrong thanks and good day.

[Le petit poussin]

Chihiros info does exist but it simply doesn't clear Chihiro and I refused to out it because all it would do is harm another player. I will continue to refuse to out it unless necessary but there IS a reason why my reads list includes the town reads on the people involved in this action. I shouldn't need to out info that will inherently harm town I should be able to soft confirmation of your role without you attacking me and it does make me more wary of Chihiro because although it makes no sense to use the ability on me if Chihiro is scum it does feel like they could be pushing for info that will help scum through me

aren't them dead (flipped town)?

also how about we tackle the problem about lucy a different way? who are her partners? (I mean it's prolly best to focus on this now if you 100% believe she is scum, since you got your point through very clearly)

[☆Princess Abigail☆]

So my biggest issue with the Kate sudden push is it’s right after Mac died. I don’t want to get too paranoid here, but it makes sense to try and swing town to a third party right now.

@lucy /@Scrappy Doo why did you decide to go with Kate today vs another wagon/POE

i predicted that mac would die in the night and i think that kate is the second scumimest person in the list and i think that i have great odds of successfully pushing that chop

however i didn't pick her

Lucy has literally only pushed town...
Seriously my guys. Claiming 3P doesn't make the player less likely to be scum.

[Le petit poussin]

sorry Neon if u have talked about it already, just didn't get to read you yet.

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Chihiros info does exist but it simply doesn't clear Chihiro and I refused to out it because all it would do is harm another player. I will continue to refuse to out it unless necessary but there IS a reason why my reads list includes the town reads on the people involved in this action. I shouldn't need to out info that will inherently harm town I should be able to soft confirmation of your role without you attacking me and it does make me more wary of Chihiro because although it makes no sense to use the ability on me if Chihiro is scum it does feel like they could be pushing for info that will help scum through me

Chihiro is dead so yea no reason to out it unless it catches a mafia member 100%

[☆Princess Abigail☆]

Sup, taking over dunya's slot

Hey, I’d recommend a quick browse. Skip the Lucy/third party drama, skip the neon/CR fight, major focus around the EOD/second part of D2 and eod of D1

Tx. I have read dunya, Dennis, Seanzie, and part of HK. Was going through it when I realised this was starting one hour earlier than expected.

I have a few read I won't disclose rn.

Nice early solving energy. That’s a big civ point for use

lolol. can u give me ur stance on lucy/scrappy? has it evolved?

Yea so pre knowing it was Lucy I was good to see the slot get voted off. That’s mainly since Scrappy was only kind of town siding.

I figured out through Scrappys post that she was Lucy fairly early into D1, that eased a lot of tension for 2 reasons

1. We can vote off Lucy if she scum sides which will remove the threat

2. She was actually civ siding to a degree

I also think mafia are using that wagon to keep distracting people.


Right now Lucy was annoying me a tiny bit last phase, but after she got active again and talking with Mac I’m good to leave her alive.

Especially with her only needing one kill left to win. I’d say she should pick within the POE for tomorrow and we’ll be good to go. I also think there was a mafia member on her wagon last phase

Bruh...

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Sup, taking over dunya's slot

Hey, I’d recommend a quick browse. Skip the Lucy/third party drama, skip the neon/CR fight, major focus around the EOD/second part of D2 and eod of D1

Tx. I have read dunya, Dennis, Seanzie, and part of HK. Was going through it when I realised this was starting one hour earlier than expected.

I have a few read I won't disclose rn.

Nice early solving energy. That’s a big civ point for use

lolol. can u give me ur stance on lucy/scrappy? has it evolved?

Yea so pre knowing it was Lucy I was good to see the slot get voted off. That’s mainly since Scrappy was only kind of town siding.

I figured out through Scrappys post that she was Lucy fairly early into D1, that eased a lot of tension for 2 reasons

1. We can vote off Lucy if she scum sides which will remove the threat

2. She was actually civ siding to a degree

I also think mafia are using that wagon to keep distracting people.


Right now Lucy was annoying me a tiny bit last phase, but after she got active again and talking with Mac I’m good to leave her alive.

Especially with her only needing one kill left to win. I’d say she should pick within the POE for tomorrow and we’ll be good to go. I also think there was a mafia member on her wagon last phase

Bruh...

I’m trying to be pragmatic about her slot, but like you’re also making some good points right now.

I want to see the consensus on Dennis before I make up my mind and if nobody else but Lucy is pushing him I likely won’t end my vote. I’d much rather go with Kate atm.


The days young though I’m trying to balance my own in game thoughts with Ferris wheel convo with Mac.

His view was she’d do what was best for her but right now is town siding.

I think I need to see a good solid case against Dennis from her