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I thought about this and maybe you are correct.S~V~S wrote: ↑Wed Mar 22, 2023 2:59 pmI’m not anymore. She addressed my concerns and has been solvey imo. I reread her and I think she’s town.
@DrWilgy both Daisy and dig are skilled players (I started playing in 2008 or 09, and at that time Daisy was an experienced player) and sig just fooled 40 people for days on end. I think 98% is a wee bit of hyperbole.
However I think the posts I quote of Daisy are only indicative of bussing assuming Neon is town. I think I'd need to know that before judging Daisy against bussing.
I don't think Daisy made any hard pushes for Neon W in spite of voicing it early. I'd expect more from W Daisy, even if it was a bus the posture would be very much in the "I'll vote Sig but Neon is next." I feel it was more of a "I'll vote Sig but could vote either." Which I think is less bus indicative.
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S~V~S wrote: ↑Wed Mar 22, 2023 2:59 pmI’m not anymore. She addressed my concerns and has been solvey imo. I reread her and I think she’s town.
@DrWilgy both Daisy and dig are skilled players (I started playing in 2008 or 09, and at that time Daisy was an experienced player) and sig just fooled 40 people for days on end. I think 98% is a wee bit of hyperbole.
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If it makes you feel any better, my phone has started correcting “dog” (and I talk about my dog ALOT) to “sig” occasionally.sig wrote: ↑Wed Mar 22, 2023 3:53 pmS~V~S wrote: ↑Wed Mar 22, 2023 2:59 pmI’m not anymore. She addressed my concerns and has been solvey imo. I reread her and I think she’s town.
@DrWilgy both Daisy and dig are skilled players (I started playing in 2008 or 09, and at that time Daisy was an experienced player) and sig just fooled 40 people for days on end. I think 98% is a wee bit of hyperbole.
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My phone just changes it to SIG. I don't want you to think I'm yelling at you.S~V~S wrote: ↑Wed Mar 22, 2023 3:57 pmIf it makes you feel any better, my phone has started correcting “dog” (and I talk about my dog ALOT) to “sig” occasionally.sig wrote: ↑Wed Mar 22, 2023 3:53 pmS~V~S wrote: ↑Wed Mar 22, 2023 2:59 pmI’m not anymore. She addressed my concerns and has been solvey imo. I reread her and I think she’s town.
@DrWilgy both Daisy and dig are skilled players (I started playing in 2008 or 09, and at that time Daisy was an experienced player) and sig just fooled 40 people for days on end. I think 98% is a wee bit of hyperbole.
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Because nothing he's done has been townyDennis wrote: ↑Wed Mar 22, 2023 3:17 pmBut whyNeon wrote: ↑Wed Mar 22, 2023 3:13 pmHe's not towny?Dennis wrote: ↑Wed Mar 22, 2023 3:11 pmWhat's up with wilgzNeon wrote: ↑Wed Mar 22, 2023 3:09 pm The Players
Dennis - scummy > I'm tunneled pls solve > still scummy
Dr Wigly - scummy
falcon45ca - scummy
MacDougall - towny
Matahari - towny > towny with self doubt
Neon - town
SixStrings - scummy
Spacedaisy - towny
S~V~S - scummy > towny > scummy > towny
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Yes. I have done absolutely nothing towny this game.Neon wrote: ↑Wed Mar 22, 2023 5:07 pmBecause nothing he's done has been townyDennis wrote: ↑Wed Mar 22, 2023 3:17 pmBut whyNeon wrote: ↑Wed Mar 22, 2023 3:13 pmHe's not towny?Dennis wrote: ↑Wed Mar 22, 2023 3:11 pmWhat's up with wilgzNeon wrote: ↑Wed Mar 22, 2023 3:09 pm The Players
Dennis - scummy > I'm tunneled pls solve > still scummy
Dr Wigly - scummy
falcon45ca - scummy
MacDougall - towny
Matahari - towny > towny with self doubt
Neon - town
SixStrings - scummy
Spacedaisy - towny
S~V~S - scummy > towny > scummy > towny
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Busy work that draws bad conclusions is not townyfalcon45ca wrote: ↑Wed Mar 22, 2023 3:22 pmI beg to differ. While I do have a mild tinfoil on his slot, he's put in some solid solve work that can't really be ignored re: player ISO's and interactions w/ sig...how do you not see that as towny?Neon wrote: ↑Wed Mar 22, 2023 3:13 pmHe's not towny?Dennis wrote: ↑Wed Mar 22, 2023 3:11 pmWhat's up with wilgzNeon wrote: ↑Wed Mar 22, 2023 3:09 pm The Players
Dennis - scummy > I'm tunneled pls solve > still scummy
Dr Wigly - scummy
falcon45ca - scummy
MacDougall - towny
Matahari - towny > towny with self doubt
Neon - town
SixStrings - scummy
Spacedaisy - towny
S~V~S - scummy > towny > scummy > towny
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Glad you agreeDrWilgy wrote: ↑Wed Mar 22, 2023 5:08 pmYes. I have done absolutely nothing towny this game.Neon wrote: ↑Wed Mar 22, 2023 5:07 pmBecause nothing he's done has been townyDennis wrote: ↑Wed Mar 22, 2023 3:17 pmBut whyNeon wrote: ↑Wed Mar 22, 2023 3:13 pmHe's not towny?Dennis wrote: ↑Wed Mar 22, 2023 3:11 pmWhat's up with wilgzNeon wrote: ↑Wed Mar 22, 2023 3:09 pm The Players
Dennis - scummy > I'm tunneled pls solve > still scummy
Dr Wigly - scummy
falcon45ca - scummy
MacDougall - towny
Matahari - towny > towny with self doubt
Neon - town
SixStrings - scummy
Spacedaisy - towny
S~V~S - scummy > towny > scummy > towny
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Mmmhhh I still can't get Neon maf out of my head but I don't think I'd like this to stay up to chance
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Having 2 people who haven't voted isn't exactly helping
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You called for help...
...but nobody came.
...but nobody came.
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Guys I made a funny undertake reference please laugh
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UNDERTAKE??? Maybe No Child Left Behind really ISN'T working after all
I meant undertale
I meant undertale
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If no one else shows up I'll switch onto spacedaisy cause she's my next sus
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Kill me I dare you my blood will be on your hands stick the knife in my heart you woof
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I'm kind of thinking I might vote Spacedaisy here based on the fact that SVS and Matahari are in agreement and both seem to be solving in the least derpy manner.
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Undertakes urk me to no end.
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Wow 3 people at the same time
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I also think that Neon is probably out of their scumrange.
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The knife is actually already there
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A little under 30 minutes til end of day. I’m going to try to be as prompt as possible
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HmmMacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Mar 22, 2023 6:08 pm I also think that Neon is probably out of their scumrange.
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Everyone except Dennis is the wolf

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Let me see...
Wilgy is solving in a way that makes very little sense to me. I don't vibe with his reads. I didn't like his d1 townread of Neon where he agreed with my lie. I didn't like how readily he agreed with SixStrings I'd never kill my wife defense either.
Speaking of which... if anyone knows anything about marriage that defense is very likely not true. If anything a wolf SixStrings would kill her then fart in bed and pull the covers up while admitting it.
Dennis is not really towny either. Kinda just malding over nothing.
Falcon has a raging sense of entitlement but if not for that he's not towny either.
Neon is at least tonally townie but she's pretty capable of faking that. I guess my issue is less that she's towny and more that today she got slightly townier while most other slots got worse.
SVS and Matahari both seem towniest here. Daisy did vote sig but I dwelt on the idea of just killing the Neon voters and remembered that I've lost several Mountainous games with that exact logic to a d1 bus. And I d1 bus all the time in 2w Mountainous so it's not the right time to apply logic. Without that Daisy doesn't really have much going for them.
Wilgy is solving in a way that makes very little sense to me. I don't vibe with his reads. I didn't like his d1 townread of Neon where he agreed with my lie. I didn't like how readily he agreed with SixStrings I'd never kill my wife defense either.
Speaking of which... if anyone knows anything about marriage that defense is very likely not true. If anything a wolf SixStrings would kill her then fart in bed and pull the covers up while admitting it.
Dennis is not really towny either. Kinda just malding over nothing.
Falcon has a raging sense of entitlement but if not for that he's not towny either.
Neon is at least tonally townie but she's pretty capable of faking that. I guess my issue is less that she's towny and more that today she got slightly townier while most other slots got worse.
SVS and Matahari both seem towniest here. Daisy did vote sig but I dwelt on the idea of just killing the Neon voters and remembered that I've lost several Mountainous games with that exact logic to a d1 bus. And I d1 bus all the time in 2w Mountainous so it's not the right time to apply logic. Without that Daisy doesn't really have much going for them.
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I'm worried this is true, but am still think it's best to resolve.MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Mar 22, 2023 6:08 pm I also think that Neon is probably out of their scumrange.
I don't know if W Neon is this heavy handed on the "Wilgy is scummy" without explanation.
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Wilgy just maintaining his read on me throughout this day and showing no town paranoia is also nagl. The mindset of wolves in this gamestate often is demonstrated by the lack of flippancy. They pick their targets and just try to roll over them downhill.
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My problem with not voting Neon is that I kinda just have to vote you Mac.
You and Neon were the greatest pushers of other options d1 and that just needs to be resolved.
You and Neon were the greatest pushers of other options d1 and that just needs to be resolved.
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It would be funny if it was Neon and Sig and we get them d1 and d2 as the two top posters in the game though. The uniqueness of that possibility almost makes me want to just flip Neon just in case it's accurate.
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Why was falcon a wagon again
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Why would I have paranoia ATM? We have 3 misyeets just to get to lylo.MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Mar 22, 2023 6:15 pm Wilgy just maintaining his read on me throughout this day and showing no town paranoia is also nagl. The mindset of wolves in this gamestate often is demonstrated by the lack of flippancy. They pick their targets and just try to roll over them downhill.
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I also pushed sig, he pushed me, I voted him and never unvoted him. And I also clearly explained my thoughts which you ignored. And given I am town, I struggle to believe you "just have to vote me" given that seems to be a problem unique to you.
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Yeah and then you scrambled at EoD as the lone player trying to hard defend the wolf.MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Mar 22, 2023 6:18 pmI also pushed sig, he pushed me, I voted him and never unvoted him. And I also clearly explained my thoughts which you ignored. And given I am town, I struggle to believe you "just have to vote me" given that seems to be a problem unique to you.
Idk what you want from me dood, we have to resolve that.
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Specifically referring to you not exhibiting a single ounce of doubt that I'm town. Treating me like a must resolve poe member all day. You don't have the mindset of a townie without information imo.DrWilgy wrote: ↑Wed Mar 22, 2023 6:17 pmWhy would I have paranoia ATM? We have 3 misyeets just to get to lylo.MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Mar 22, 2023 6:15 pm Wilgy just maintaining his read on me throughout this day and showing no town paranoia is also nagl. The mindset of wolves in this gamestate often is demonstrated by the lack of flippancy. They pick their targets and just try to roll over them downhill.
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Idk what you want from me is commonly referred to as the daily mafia scumslip btw.DrWilgy wrote: ↑Wed Mar 22, 2023 6:19 pmYeah and then you scrambled at EoD as the lone player trying to hard defend the wolf.MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Mar 22, 2023 6:18 pmI also pushed sig, he pushed me, I voted him and never unvoted him. And I also clearly explained my thoughts which you ignored. And given I am town, I struggle to believe you "just have to vote me" given that seems to be a problem unique to you.
Idk what you want from me dood, we have to resolve that.
I didn't scramble. I reevaluated incorrectly. I have done this in practically every mafia game I have ever played and you know it.
You're not reading the situation with any nuance.
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Wilgy has been saying Mac is poe for quite the long time
I think that counts
I think that counts
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That's because I'm a townie with information. Sig was wolf and I trust my PoE based upon that.MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Mar 22, 2023 6:19 pmSpecifically referring to you not exhibiting a single ounce of doubt that I'm town. Treating me like a must resolve poe member all day. You don't have the mindset of a townie without information imo.DrWilgy wrote: ↑Wed Mar 22, 2023 6:17 pmWhy would I have paranoia ATM? We have 3 misyeets just to get to lylo.MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Mar 22, 2023 6:15 pm Wilgy just maintaining his read on me throughout this day and showing no town paranoia is also nagl. The mindset of wolves in this gamestate often is demonstrated by the lack of flippancy. They pick their targets and just try to roll over them downhill.
And don't get me wrong. I've been here pondering the best order to resolve that PoE. I think Neon 1st, then you as I think SixStrings doesn't belong in there and I've seen too many people spew Mata as town.
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Yes but every other slot has me as town (except Falcon partially) which means the baseline perspective on me is I'm not wolfy or PoE which means Wilgy's insistence that I am doesn't pass the pub test. One must wonder why.
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But it would be more fun for those misyeeted people to not be yeeted.DrWilgy wrote: ↑Wed Mar 22, 2023 6:17 pmWhy would I have paranoia ATM? We have 3 misyeets just to get to lylo.MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Mar 22, 2023 6:15 pm Wilgy just maintaining his read on me throughout this day and showing no town paranoia is also nagl. The mindset of wolves in this gamestate often is demonstrated by the lack of flippancy. They pick their targets and just try to roll over them downhill.
Who are you most suspicious of? Aside from resolving and analyzing how many misyeets we have? I mean, we have 3, but wouldn't it be more awesome to do it in less?
Analysis is good and it has its place in games, town can't win without it. But does anyone vote based on suspicion anymore or is it just POE analysis?
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although my suspicion of Neon has been reduced from the last vote, her suspicion of just about everyone seems like a weak defense.Neon wrote: ↑Wed Mar 22, 2023 3:09 pm The Players
Dennis - scummy > I'm tunneled pls solve > still scummy
Dr Wigly - scummy
falcon45ca - scummy
MacDougall - towny
Matahari - towny > towny with self doubt
Neon - town
SixStrings - scummy
Spacedaisy - towny
S~V~S - scummy > towny > scummy > towny
This sucks
svs and mata make a strong argument leveraging Kate's analysis which is very tempting to follow. I just cant shake the feeling that Neon is bad. I would follow svs and mata in tomorrow's vote of daisy if neon is not Statler.
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Re: Muppet Babies - Day 2
MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Mar 22, 2023 6:19 pmSpecifically referring to you not exhibiting a single ounce of doubt that I'm town. Treating me like a must resolve poe member all day. You don't have the mindset of a townie without information imo.DrWilgy wrote: ↑Wed Mar 22, 2023 6:17 pmWhy would I have paranoia ATM? We have 3 misyeets just to get to lylo.MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Mar 22, 2023 6:15 pm Wilgy just maintaining his read on me throughout this day and showing no town paranoia is also nagl. The mindset of wolves in this gamestate often is demonstrated by the lack of flippancy. They pick their targets and just try to roll over them downhill.
These two posts together confuse meMacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Mar 22, 2023 6:23 pm Yes but every other slot has me as town (except Falcon partially) which means the baseline perspective on me is I'm not wolfy or PoE which means Wilgy's insistence that I am doesn't pass the pub test. One must wonder why.