Season 10 Champs Practice Game [END - MAFIA WIN]

[Seanzie]

WARNING: Slightly edited posts below (deleting extraneous stuff)

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Porscha

Lilypetal
Dennis

DrWilgy
Neon
pyxxy
Sabiplz

RondoDimBuckle
falcon45ca
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME

tutuu
WindwardAway

Kate
lucy

WindwardAway

Porscha

Lilypetal

Neon
DrWilgy

pyxxy
Sabiplz
tutuu
Dennis

Kate
falcon45ca

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME
RondoDimBuckle

lucy/Aro

WindwardAway

Porscha

Lilypetal

Neon
DrWilgy

pyxxy
Sabiplz
tutuu

Dennis
falcon45ca

Kate
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME
RondoDimBuckle

lucy/Aro

WindwardAway

Porscha

Lilypetal

Neon
pyxxy
Sabiplz
DrWilgy

tutuu

Dennis
falcon45ca
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME
RondoDimBuckle

lucy/Aro

WindwardAway

Porscha
Lilypetal
Dennis
DrWilgy

Neon
pyxxy
Sabiplz

tutuu
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME

falcon45ca

[Seanzie]

I keep going lower and lower. Neat

I have had you as exactly null the whole time. Why do you feel like you're getting lower?

You even called me out on saying you were null, but without gusto.

I didn't realize the tiers were unsorted till you mentioned it after my post smh.

I dunno.

I'm just like annoyed a bit because I'm trying hard to be towny and everyone is like omg sabi wolf or I can't find sabi.

I am willing to find you townie, but I have not gotten the feeling that you're trying hard to be townie. Perhaps I am missing something.

Are you able to point to particularly townie things you've done? I have another question, but I'd like to see the answer to this one first since sometimes if I ask two questions, one of them is ignored.

[pyxxy]

holy shit that UCLA Gonzaga game

okay time to see what's going on here

[Seanzie]

i only saw nook wolf once and he like posted a few times and was the most blatant wolf i've ever seen upon examining his iso

Do you have an updated take on Nanook?

[Sabiplz]

I keep going lower and lower. Neat

I have had you as exactly null the whole time. Why do you feel like you're getting lower?

You even called me out on saying you were null, but without gusto.

I didn't realize the tiers were unsorted till you mentioned it after my post smh.

I dunno.

I'm just like annoyed a bit because I'm trying hard to be towny and everyone is like omg sabi wolf or I can't find sabi.

I am willing to find you townie, but I have not gotten the feeling that you're trying hard to be townie. Perhaps I am missing something.

Are you able to point to particularly townie things you've done? I have another question, but I'd like to see the answer to this one first since sometimes if I ask two questions, one of them is ignored.

I feel like I have been a lot more free with my thoughts and reads and have been trying to solve people. Which omg sabi can just copy that as wolf.

I'm sorry if I ignored stuff. Adhd brain.

[Seanzie]

im kinda scared of tuutuu

What was this in reference to? I could not find it in thread when looking.

[Seanzie]

i only saw nook wolf once and he like posted a few times and was the most blatant wolf i've ever seen upon examining his iso

like it was 20 daily posts needed and he like made the exact 20 and announced thats what he was doing then dipped thread day 1 and 2

so honestly if he posts 21 times and has a pulse i'm going to assume he's town

I think this severely underestimates Nook's abilities.

yeah probably

If you actually agreed with me, how did your view of the gamestate change?

[Seanzie]

i dont townread lucy

i dont scumread her

i dont think any of her posts are hard for her to write as wolf

i tend to think lucy being productive is town indicative. There's a world where she's hard powerwolfing here but that's like a day 3 worry if she turns up with no results and is leading us off a cliff. Look at goc where she played just like this and got day vig'd instantly

If she did this playstyle as a wolf recently and I just wasn't in that game then lolme

in hedgehog as mafia she was like "you do this, you do that" "i've made the pre-game decision to x y z" "we should do this" etc

she was barking out orders from the start

feel free to townread her if you want. i think i'd rather hold off for now, i think she's quite comfortably in both town and scum range

understood comrade

This post sits weird with me, and I'm not sure why.

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

Sheeping dead town is a tactic wolves do to townside and so they aren't held accountable.

Which is what tutuu is doing

But I said I wasn't going to push people today because I don't want to be accused of power wolfing.

If shes mafia and wants to townside idc tbh

Why do you think Tutuu is townsiding?

I don't know if she is or not I haven't paid much attention to her reads

Whether I think she is or not is irrelevant to the post I made, tho

Can you give me your full read of Tutuu with explanation?

Mafia lean because lucy had them as a mafia lean

End of explanation.

[Seanzie]

omg

yeah i’m gonna sleep but holy crap this is bad faith incarnate

its not

feel free to prove (everyone) wrong by making reads and playing normally tomorrow instead of using emotion and frustration as a crutch

Also answer my question

what question

Why do you feel the need to attack my mafia game here?

because you’re pissing me off and playing poorly

i actually rly do not understand lucy's reaction to being scumread by tuutuu and think it's kinda scummy

page 8 for reference

this post is also just kinda gross and she does say things like this as town but im not getting towny vibes at all this time

This post occurs on Page 16. You reference Page 8. Prior to this post, you were strongly townreading Lucy as far as I can tell.

Is my assessment above correct? If so, what changed here? What does page 8 have to do with this?

If not, where exactly did you switch on Lucy?

[pyxxy]

@Seanzie sorry for random I'm reading ISOs, does parking votes on falcon ever make him become more towny?

Because I don't like this post:

Ok, im just going to keep my vote on falcon then as a symbol of my top sr so shrug :/

If you guys have any questions on things just lmk. Best thing I can do now is just solve/provide you insight from my pov before I die.

Why is falcon scum?






I happen to know for a fact he's town. I have TMI on his slot

After that falcon has a tit for tat with lucy/arogame about voting for lucy/arogame...which I _do_ like. I think him showing emotion about his reads rather than someone scumreading _himself_ is probably a good thing. He was voting lucy/arogame after all.

I feel like I'm just waiting for him to do something again like in hedgehog. Like if he just shows up and is incredibly wrong with his reads and massively out of touch with the game state, then I'll probably townread him

Which circles back to my question. Does (town) falcon appear when summoned with votes?

If not I'll just tag him.

[pyxxy]

I keep going lower and lower. Neat

I have had you as exactly null the whole time. Why do you feel like you're getting lower?

You even called me out on saying you were null, but without gusto.

I didn't realize the tiers were unsorted till you mentioned it after my post smh.

I dunno.

I'm just like annoyed a bit because I'm trying hard to be towny and everyone is like omg sabi wolf or I can't find sabi.

I am willing to find you townie, but I have not gotten the feeling that you're trying hard to be townie. Perhaps I am missing something.

Are you able to point to particularly townie things you've done? I have another question, but I'd like to see the answer to this one first since sometimes if I ask two questions, one of them is ignored.

I feel like I have been a lot more free with my thoughts and reads and have been trying to solve people. Which omg sabi can just copy that as wolf.

I'm sorry if I ignored stuff. Adhd brain.

oh hey you're here too, same question as for Seanzie, does (town) falcon make himself readable when vote pressure is applied?

[Seanzie]

Dennis is pretty towny this page. The flow of conscious posts come off pretty genuine and there's a depth of thought there that seems towny. Comfy keeping Dennis in my town

This feels a little pocket-y.

[pyxxy]

(actually ignore me for the moment sean looks like you're cooking here )

[Seanzie]

Team is clearly Falcon, Tutuu, Lily.

Tell me about Lily.

The pop in earlier didn't sit right. They had asked questions that the thread were actively discussing and seemed like they were here to make noise and dip.

Also when I first joined the thread they said it was wolfy in a way I could see a wolf grabbing LHF.

Now, I have seen lost T Lily before (I pocketed them as a w)... I don't feel that this is the same lost T Lily. So gut is kinda involved as well.

I would like to see Lily catch up though and let us know their thoughts on the gamestate.

Because of this post, I carefully read Lily's ISO. I didn't actually process anything in particular that suggests what you're saying (the wolf grabbing LHF), but this could be the case, since it was a long iso. Could you quote posts though to backup what you're saying?

Outside of this, I do think ISOing Lily was helpful. There were numerous red flags that I saw. I think it is at least reasonably likely that Lily is scum. I appreciate this lead you've given.

[Sabiplz]

I keep going lower and lower. Neat

I have had you as exactly null the whole time. Why do you feel like you're getting lower?

You even called me out on saying you were null, but without gusto.

I didn't realize the tiers were unsorted till you mentioned it after my post smh.

I dunno.

I'm just like annoyed a bit because I'm trying hard to be towny and everyone is like omg sabi wolf or I can't find sabi.

I am willing to find you townie, but I have not gotten the feeling that you're trying hard to be townie. Perhaps I am missing something.

Are you able to point to particularly townie things you've done? I have another question, but I'd like to see the answer to this one first since sometimes if I ask two questions, one of them is ignored.

I feel like I have been a lot more free with my thoughts and reads and have been trying to solve people. Which omg sabi can just copy that as wolf.

I'm sorry if I ignored stuff. Adhd brain.

oh hey you're here too, same question as for Seanzie, does (town) falcon make himself readable when vote pressure is applied?

I'm going to be quite honest I have zero idea.

Falcon is an enigma. He has only wolfed against me once and it was my first ever syndicate game. He posted twice the whole game and never posted again.

But usually when he's town he posts something of game related.

[Sabiplz]

I'm taking Seanzie notes in consideration and will iso lily soon

[Seanzie]

@Seanzie sorry for random I'm reading ISOs, does parking votes on falcon ever make him become more towny?

Because I don't like this post:

Ok, im just going to keep my vote on falcon then as a symbol of my top sr so shrug :/

If you guys have any questions on things just lmk. Best thing I can do now is just solve/provide you insight from my pov before I die.

Why is falcon scum?






I happen to know for a fact he's town. I have TMI on his slot

After that falcon has a tit for tat with lucy/arogame about voting for lucy/arogame...which I _do_ like. I think him showing emotion about his reads rather than someone scumreading _himself_ is probably a good thing. He was voting lucy/arogame after all.

I feel like I'm just waiting for him to do something again like in hedgehog. Like if he just shows up and is incredibly wrong with his reads and massively out of touch with the game state, then I'll probably townread him

Which circles back to my question. Does (town) falcon appear when summoned with votes?

If not I'll just tag him.

I have a hard time figuring out why you are @ing me here. If you scumread Falcon, vote him. If you don't, defend him. All I can recommend is to be loud in either endeavor.

To answer your question, idk. The number of votes on Falcon has never been something that i've corrolated with Falcon appearing or not.

[Seanzie]

I keep going lower and lower. Neat

I have had you as exactly null the whole time. Why do you feel like you're getting lower?

You even called me out on saying you were null, but without gusto.

I didn't realize the tiers were unsorted till you mentioned it after my post smh.

I dunno.

I'm just like annoyed a bit because I'm trying hard to be towny and everyone is like omg sabi wolf or I can't find sabi.

I am willing to find you townie, but I have not gotten the feeling that you're trying hard to be townie. Perhaps I am missing something.

Are you able to point to particularly townie things you've done? I have another question, but I'd like to see the answer to this one first since sometimes if I ask two questions, one of them is ignored.

I feel like I have been a lot more free with my thoughts and reads and have been trying to solve people. Which omg sabi can just copy that as wolf.

I'm sorry if I ignored stuff. Adhd brain.

oh hey you're here too, same question as for Seanzie, does (town) falcon make himself readable when vote pressure is applied?

This is a vastly different question than what you asked me, but okay.

[Porscha]

I also thought nook was maf but many people are now yelling at me that this is normal for nook so I guess it's okay??

im content sheeping aro's confident townread on him

lucy was ok with him too

porscha was ... i think she was ok with him too right?

aro had dope reads. he had rondo as town. he was cool

why not sheep rondo's read on nook maf? rondo had dope reads. he had lucy as town. he was cool

[Seanzie]

I have had you as exactly null the whole time. Why do you feel like you're getting lower?

You even called me out on saying you were null, but without gusto.

I didn't realize the tiers were unsorted till you mentioned it after my post smh.

I dunno.

I'm just like annoyed a bit because I'm trying hard to be towny and everyone is like omg sabi wolf or I can't find sabi.

I am willing to find you townie, but I have not gotten the feeling that you're trying hard to be townie. Perhaps I am missing something.

Are you able to point to particularly townie things you've done? I have another question, but I'd like to see the answer to this one first since sometimes if I ask two questions, one of them is ignored.

I feel like I have been a lot more free with my thoughts and reads and have been trying to solve people. Which omg sabi can just copy that as wolf.

I'm sorry if I ignored stuff. Adhd brain.

oh hey you're here too, same question as for Seanzie, does (town) falcon make himself readable when vote pressure is applied?

This is a vastly different question than what you asked me, but okay.

I should also answer this new question: I don't necessarily know if the application of pressure is what makes Falcon readable, but I do usually find Falcon an easy townread when he is town and I have not felt like that thus far. This has little to do with vote pressure, but I was at least kind of hoping that my early vote on him would serve as a sieve for the cases where he might be town, but I haven't felt like that sieve was necessary.

[DrWilgy]

I sr wilgy's posts this page

nice, *finger guns*

@Seanzie it was this interaction here. I even jested about this and there was no real follow up, nor explanation provided.

[Seanzie]

I also thought nook was maf but many people are now yelling at me that this is normal for nook so I guess it's okay??

im content sheeping aro's confident townread on him

lucy was ok with him too

porscha was ... i think she was ok with him too right?

aro had dope reads. he had rondo as town. he was cool

why not sheep rondo's read on nook maf? rondo had dope reads. he had lucy as town. he was cool

Didn't Rondo also have Porscha!Mafia?

[Seanzie]

I sr wilgy's posts this page

nice, *finger guns*

@Seanzie it was this interaction here. I even jested about this and there was no real follow up, nor explanation provided.

Thanks, I feel significantly better about you after chasing Lily's ISO.

Do you have any strong opinions on Sabi? This is a slot that I do not feel like I've correctly sorted.

[Seanzie]

Dennis
DrWilgy
Lilypetal
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME
Neon
Porscha
pyxxy
Sabiplz
tutuu


WindwardAway

[Seanzie]

Dennis
DrWilgy
Lilypetal
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME
Neon
Porscha
pyxxy
Sabiplz
tutuu


WindwardAway

Whoops this was an accident. This means nothing.

[Seanzie]

WindwardAway

DrWilgy
Porscha

Dennis
Neon

pyxxy
Sabiplz
tutuu

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME
Lilypetal

falcon45ca

[Seanzie]

(actually ignore me for the moment sean looks like you're cooking here )

This is a post that I kind of want to say just comes from town, but i don't feel super confident about it. Does anyone find this post wolfy/townie-but-not-that-townie/otherwise?

[pyxxy]

You even called me out on saying you were null, but without gusto.

I didn't realize the tiers were unsorted till you mentioned it after my post smh.

I dunno.

I'm just like annoyed a bit because I'm trying hard to be towny and everyone is like omg sabi wolf or I can't find sabi.

I am willing to find you townie, but I have not gotten the feeling that you're trying hard to be townie. Perhaps I am missing something.

Are you able to point to particularly townie things you've done? I have another question, but I'd like to see the answer to this one first since sometimes if I ask two questions, one of them is ignored.

I feel like I have been a lot more free with my thoughts and reads and have been trying to solve people. Which omg sabi can just copy that as wolf.

I'm sorry if I ignored stuff. Adhd brain.

oh hey you're here too, same question as for Seanzie, does (town) falcon make himself readable when vote pressure is applied?

This is a vastly different question than what you asked me, but okay.

I should also answer this new question: I don't necessarily know if the application of pressure is what makes Falcon readable, but I do usually find Falcon an easy townread when he is town and I have not felt like that thus far. This has little to do with vote pressure, but I was at least kind of hoping that my early vote on him would serve as a sieve for the cases where he might be town, but I haven't felt like that sieve was necessary.

alright can't hurt then [VOTE: falcon] aubergine

to be clear about why I'm doing this:
- I am getting the impression from these answers that lots of votes on town falcon don't make him freeze up, or at least they don't make him harder to find
- I don't particularly like falcon's absence from D2 and found his D1 to be passable if followed up on
- maybe he'll snarkily reply to this post and call it weak and then I get to find town falcon :3

thank you for answering both questions

words are only a model of the actual thoughts that go through our heads, so now you have two representations of what I was trying to get at

[pyxxy]

I also thought nook was maf but many people are now yelling at me that this is normal for nook so I guess it's okay??

im content sheeping aro's confident townread on him

lucy was ok with him too

porscha was ... i think she was ok with him too right?

aro had dope reads. he had rondo as town. he was cool

why not sheep rondo's read on nook maf? rondo had dope reads. he had lucy as town. he was cool

Didn't Rondo also have Porscha!Mafia?

I got the impression from his ISO that he mostly disagreed with her wanting to flip lucy for info, but tr her

skimming his ISO again and searching "porscha" he kinda went towny -> town -> scum -> town core, with I think this as the last post about her? not 100% sure what searching finds, if that makes sense

Wilgy I hope we can find each other this game. Your opening is towny. But I am wary of you as a wolf. Towncore:

Wilgy / Sean / Rondo / Lucy / Porscha / One of (Neon/Tutuu/Sabi)

[Dennis]

(actually ignore me for the moment sean looks like you're cooking here )

This is a post that I kind of want to say just comes from town, but i don't feel super confident about it. Does anyone find this post wolfy/townie-but-not-that-townie/otherwise?

I read it as silly pyxxy doing silly pyxxy things

NAI in my book

[pyxxy]

dennis isn't it past your bedtime

[Dennis]

Yeah

[pyxxy]

^does anyone have town/scum lily games that I could skim?

also these seems like a great time for me to bump this request that I made earlier today

[pyxxy]

Yeah

okay carry on

[Sabiplz]

(actually ignore me for the moment sean looks like you're cooking here )

This is a post that I kind of want to say just comes from town, but i don't feel super confident about it. Does anyone find this post wolfy/townie-but-not-that-townie/otherwise?

I was late to answer this

NAI

[Dennis]

Yeah

okay carry on

Okay

[Dennis]

^does anyone have town/scum lily games that I could skim?

also these seems like a great time for me to bump this request that I made earlier today

I think the only game I've played with lil was goc, if she was in that

[Dennis]

^does anyone have town/scum lily games that I could skim?

also these seems like a great time for me to bump this request that I made earlier today

I think the only game I've played with lil was goc, if she was in that

No way my phone autocorrected lily to lil

[Seanzie]

(actually ignore me for the moment sean looks like you're cooking here )

This is a post that I kind of want to say just comes from town, but i don't feel super confident about it. Does anyone find this post wolfy/townie-but-not-that-townie/otherwise?

I read it as silly pyxxy doing silly pyxxy things

NAI in my book

Tell me more please. If you know Pyxxy well enough to say that this is silly Pyxxy just being silly Pyxxy, I am curious on your take in general for them.

[Seanzie]

(actually ignore me for the moment sean looks like you're cooking here )

This is a post that I kind of want to say just comes from town, but i don't feel super confident about it. Does anyone find this post wolfy/townie-but-not-that-townie/otherwise?

I was late to answer this

NAI

Tnx

[Seanzie]

@Lilypetal I see that you haven't voted yet. Where are you thinking?

[Dennis]

(actually ignore me for the moment sean looks like you're cooking here )

This is a post that I kind of want to say just comes from town, but i don't feel super confident about it. Does anyone find this post wolfy/townie-but-not-that-townie/otherwise?

I read it as silly pyxxy doing silly pyxxy things

NAI in my book

Tell me more please. If you know Pyxxy well enough to say that this is silly Pyxxy just being silly Pyxxy, I am curious on your take in general for them.

Okay so I'm gonna preface this with I am pretty sure sabi knows them better than I do, I think they're irls or something

But from my experience, pyxxy focuses up and does those maaaasive posts normally as town, but it's not 100 percent of the time. Like they'll joke around too, and I think they're pretty level headed which is what I believe I've been seeing from pyxxy

So yeah I have pyxxy as town

[Dennis]

And I think it's the emoji that does it for me in this specific post

[Lilypetal]

Hi I'm drunk I haven't read anyrhing

[Lilypetal]

Immtown idk who wolves arelol

[Seanzie]

And I think it's the emoji that does it for me in this specific post

It's the emoji that makes it NAI?

[pyxxy]

oh boy

[Seanzie]

Hi I'm drunk I haven't read anyrhing

Cool, let's realtime the shiz out of this.

[Lilypetal]

@Lilypetal I see that you haven't voted yet. Where are you thinking?

Idk sabu ir tuitu I think one of them contains a wolf maybe

I always scum read sabi though and they get sad when I do so I don't want to vote them and tuutuu is a mono red playing bitch so she deserves to be goged