Season 10 Champs Practice Game [END - MAFIA WIN]

[Dennis]

[VOTE: falcon] aubergine

Mmm vote tutuu

Did you vote tutuu because they voted falcon

Cause I think self pres votes are pretty nai

[Sabiplz]

I've put aside my sabi worry too solve within the more pressing concerns

Tutuu and falcon.

Sabi work with me what are you feeling in a much detail as possible. What do you think of these wagon comps?

I can be detailed once I'm off work

[WindwardAway]

[VOTE: falcon] aubergine

Mmm vote tutuu

Did you vote tutuu because they voted falcon

Cause I think self pres votes are pretty nai

You're aware that tutuu explicitly said she's pushing falcon, right? It's not a self-pres, it's a vote to kill.

[tutuu]

OK so what's the case on him if disengagement isn't alignment indicative for him?

there are 3 wolves and i townread everyone but 4 ppl

[Seanzie]

[VOTE: Tutuu] aubergine

[tutuu]

WWA carefully and methodically analyzing the setup before claiming:



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Neon being confident that she caught scum tutuu:



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Lily getting drunk from one glass of orange juice:



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Porscha working for 26 hours every day:



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Dennis getting chased by Kate to get beaten up due to staying up late:



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Nook breaking in the almond croissant bakery:



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Sabi receiving headpats and love:



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Seanzie being the only person left in the world under 40 who could afford to buy a house:



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Wilgy when it's time for my prostate exam:



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falcon winning the 1v1 versus tutuu without posting anything:



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pyxxy making the most delicious burgers like the wholesome boomer he is (with a big belly and a bigger heart)

[Sabiplz]

[VOTE: Tutuu] aubergine

Why the change

[pyxxy]

Like in what universe does pyxxy not have a stronger opinion or thoughts or want to vote anyone that was related to lucy or rondo or their reads?

Why is pyxxy trying to put attention on an afk slot, without policy reasoning? Just to take attention or talking away from a partner who is getting heat? Like tutuu? Idk it doesnt make any sense to me

lucy and rondo were my reads :/

I've been doing reading since then but it's mostly to find town

here I'll copy paste some stuff from my notes

I've got town reads from strongest to weakest: WWA, porscha (that's you! ), dennis, Sabi

which leaves:
wilgy, falcon, lily, nook, Neon, Sean, tutuu

tiered for the people I feel better about, it's probably lily/sean/Neon/wilgy > falcon/nook/tutuu?

I don't think I have a great read on falcon but I have seen both of his games now, with an additional bonus of him in milo, and maybe I'm just salty about _that_ game, but I don't particularly want to see him in milo again. Is that what you mean by policy?

Like I'm not confident that my decision is "+ev" or whatever, it's just an accumulation of reasoning
- he's not clearly towny
- people agree that he's not clearly towny
- he's had time to make himself towny
- I don't trust him to actually help town win in late game or milo

Bundle that up and call it insurance #geico

[pyxxy]

@falcon45ca I summon thee, become towny and tell me who you're sheeping today

[pyxxy]

@WindwardAway

Would you mind giving a ranked list of all the players? I know you've said your list is similar to others, but I'd love to see yours and then we can compare/contrast.

This is gonna be rough cause I'm not really convinced of my own reads
My readlist will probably change drastically within the next 12 hours lol, this is why I don't do tiered lists anymore

Seanzie
Porscha
Dennis

Neon
Lily

Wilgy
Sabi

Pyxxy? Idk I keep changing my mind on him which means I just can't read him so idk.

Nanook??? People are influencing this read cause I thought he came off towny from his interaction with Rondo and me but I also don't get why that's the only thing he's focused on this entire game thus far.

Tutuu
Falcon

This is ROUGHLY where I'm at tbh so if I have same ish view of game as pr maybe I'm doing something right

I think only thing is I don't have a read on sean maybe i sheep u

For context I think tutuu bottom poe sabi in poe nook wilgy poe falcon in poe but like idk where I have ptsd

Falcon definitely not bottom for me though!! Tutuu should die for her sins

Tutuu/Falc/Pyx wolf team?

hehehe imagine tho? I might get my choice of bus today?

[pyxxy]

i would advise u guys to rethink your townreads on sabi (as sabi is mafia)

Why don't you rethink your scumread on them instead

no im sheeping lucy lucy would never be wrong on a scumread

Sounds like an excuse to me

pat pat

I think one of the reasons I'm not that worried about tutuu is that....if her sheeping is wrong, I'm ready to blame her for sheeping.

Maybe that's a bit foolish and doesn't allow townies to naturally evolve their reads, but she has refused to budge on them all day.

But I guess that leads me back to the point WWA kinda makes here:

Wow if falcon is town we are SO boned

Haah!!!Haha!!!!

Makes me think k falcon is the next ML and tutuu js wolf

Honestly if falcon is a wolf then literally any other wolf could bus him and no one would care
But yeah if he's town then lol
Idk

Maybe I'm getting ahead of myself thinking about late game and pruning falcon now.....[VOTE: Unvote] aubergine

[pyxxy]

i will 100% be voting falcon later, seeing him be consensus scumread reassures me it's just right, and the other 2 wolves are probably bussing

if he's town - god save us all

The other 2 wolves are bussing. What are you implying here?

everyone is scumreading falcon ergo if he's mafia the other 2 wolves are also scumreading him

yeah this

[pyxxy]

hehehe nook almond croissant got me, gj tutuu

[pyxxy]

Okay so I've been stewing on this since D1.

lucy's idea about trying to speed past the...RVS? section of voting is probably a good idea and something I'll try to subscribe to in the future.

D1 came down to me and lucy/arogame...but that was kinda it. The two wagons were pretty much decided from midday.

This feels like the same situation. Maybe like people feel afraid to move off the two main wagons? Why?

I don't really have a conclusion from this.

Like in what universe does pyxxy not have a stronger opinion or thoughts or want to vote anyone that was related to lucy or rondo or their reads?

Why is pyxxy trying to put attention on an afk slot, without policy reasoning? Just to take attention or talking away from a partner who is getting heat? Like tutuu? Idk it doesnt make any sense to me

lucy and rondo were my reads :/

I've been doing reading since then but it's mostly to find town

here I'll copy paste some stuff from my notes

I've got town reads from strongest to weakest: WWA, porscha (that's you! ), dennis, Sabi

which leaves:
wilgy, falcon, lily, nook, Neon, Sean, tutuu

tiered for the people I feel better about, it's probably lily/sean/Neon/wilgy > falcon/nook/tutuu?

What happen is I do....this? [VOTE: Nook] aubergine

I'm not particularly convinced that Nook is a hit but people seem really afraid of vote movement.

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Also I acknowledge how this makes me look re: I voted the falcon wagon and now I'm posting this after the tutuu wagon took the lead. Me acknowledging this is NAI, I just don't want to get scumread for _not_ pointing it out.

[tutuu]

the instant i move to falcon 3 people leave the wagon lol

[VOTE: sabi] aubergine

[Seanzie]

[VOTE: Tutuu] aubergine

Why the change

Curious how the thread will feel on this side.

[Seanzie]

It feels weird. Wtf?

[VOTE: Falcon] aubergine

[tutuu]

[VOTE: falcon] aubergine

im not moving again, if u guys think i smell or whatever u do u

[tutuu]

my legacy is unchanged from the reads i made at SoD

WWA
dennis
porscha
seanzie
lily
nook
neon

wilgy
falcon
pyxxy
sabi

once again, i will ask u guys to reconsider ur townreads on sabi (as sabi is mafia)

idk if im posting again, its 8 pm here, eod is 4 am for me

even if u mischop me - dont lose hope, game is still winnable

[tutuu]

[Dennis]

[VOTE: falcon] aubergine

Mmm vote tutuu

Did you vote tutuu because they voted falcon

Cause I think self pres votes are pretty nai

You're aware that tutuu explicitly said she's pushing falcon, right? It's not a self-pres, it's a vote to kill.

This made me bruh in real life

I don't exactly remember that but I do remember falcon is in her poe so I guess ur right

[Dennis]

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Dennis getting chased by Kate to get beaten up due to staying up late:



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Where did you get this video of me and my mother in our house

[Dennis]

Okay so I've been stewing on this since D1.

lucy's idea about trying to speed past the...RVS? section of voting is probably a good idea and something I'll try to subscribe to in the future.

D1 came down to me and lucy/arogame...but that was kinda it. The two wagons were pretty much decided from midday.

This feels like the same situation. Maybe like people feel afraid to move off the two main wagons? Why?

I don't really have a conclusion from this.

Like in what universe does pyxxy not have a stronger opinion or thoughts or want to vote anyone that was related to lucy or rondo or their reads?

Why is pyxxy trying to put attention on an afk slot, without policy reasoning? Just to take attention or talking away from a partner who is getting heat? Like tutuu? Idk it doesnt make any sense to me

lucy and rondo were my reads :/

I've been doing reading since then but it's mostly to find town

here I'll copy paste some stuff from my notes

I've got town reads from strongest to weakest: WWA, porscha (that's you! ), dennis, Sabi

which leaves:
wilgy, falcon, lily, nook, Neon, Sean, tutuu

tiered for the people I feel better about, it's probably lily/sean/Neon/wilgy > falcon/nook/tutuu?

What happen is I do....this? [VOTE: Nook] aubergine

I'm not particularly convinced that Nook is a hit but people seem really afraid of vote movement.

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Also I acknowledge how this makes me look re: I voted the falcon wagon and now I'm posting this after the tutuu wagon took the lead. Me acknowledging this is NAI, I just don't want to get scumread for _not_ pointing it out.

I'm down to follow this [VOTE: nook] aubergine

I didn't switch because I've been called lost like 400 times (which probably isn't wrong but whatever) and if I move I assumed people would think "oh silly Dennis, shut the FUCK UP YOU ARE LOST." And my vote would be pointless

[Sabiplz]

I have no idea how to feel about pyxxy Seanzie and tutuu vote hopping

[Porscha]

What do you guys think about a possible lily/tutuu/pyxxy wolf world? Maybe swap neon or nook out for one of those?

Consider this a poe I guess

Falcon still possible but he has done literally (not literally) nothing but if its worthless then it sure as hell isnt worth voting for today

Why am I a wolf porscha

Idgi

I'm just just jelly you didnt interact with me more, nothing else you've done made me think you were wolfy

[Porscha]

Porsfha always like wolfreads me for dumb reasons when I'm just being me lol

But that makes her townier it hink

I have also made this observation about myself lol it's just the paranoia brain worms

[Porscha]

@Neon
Vote Counts

Day 1

Spoiler: show

9 - lucy => arogame123 - pyxxy, Seanzie, Sabiplz, falcon45ca, WindwardAway, Dennis, Lilypetal, Porscha, DrWilgy
3 - pyxxy => NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME, tutuu, Neon
1 - falcon45ca => arogame123
1 - Sabiplz => RondoDimBuckle

I still think sabi and pyx can be paired

Outside sabi pyx I would look at Dennis

Lower tier would be like Falc Lily Porscha

I will allow dennis to say outrageous things such as not believing wwa's claim or seeing me as a wolf but I do not accept this from you as you continuously have listed me as locktown

I mean your dead last in a list that includes most of that wagon. If we got thru that many names and didn't get both woofs on that wagon... yeah I'd be doubting my read on you by than

We'd also have basically lost lol

So in this hypothetical you're only solving the people who voted lucy...? And how would it make me paired with any of the other people you listed?

[Porscha]

Also you should play games with me someday like overwatch or league if I ever fix my PC.

Me and prince were talking about how me you Porscha and Prince should all play together lol

Huge yes

[Porscha]

I also thought nook was maf but many people are now yelling at me that this is normal for nook so I guess it's okay??

im content sheeping aro's confident townread on him

lucy was ok with him too

porscha was ... i think she was ok with him too right?

aro had dope reads. he had rondo as town. he was cool

why not sheep rondo's read on nook maf? rondo had dope reads. he had lucy as town. he was cool

He had me as scum, he lost his cool factor

It was a question for tutuu to answer cuz I'm trying to pickaxe her brain but I understand your pov lol

[tutuu]

I also thought nook was maf but many people are now yelling at me that this is normal for nook so I guess it's okay??

im content sheeping aro's confident townread on him

lucy was ok with him too

porscha was ... i think she was ok with him too right?

aro had dope reads. he had rondo as town. he was cool

why not sheep rondo's read on nook maf? rondo had dope reads. he had lucy as town. he was cool

He had me as scum, he lost his cool factor

It was a question for tutuu to answer cuz I'm trying to pickaxe her brain but I understand your pov lol

Where's your pickaxe small baby Porscha?

[Porscha]

Wow if falcon is town we are SO boned

Haah!!!Haha!!!!

Makes me think k falcon is the next ML and tutuu js wolf

Honestly if falcon is a wolf then literally any other wolf could bus him and no one would care
But yeah if he's town then lol
Idk

Yeah as of rn it's literally a lose lose situation for town to flip him

[Porscha]

I also thought nook was maf but many people are now yelling at me that this is normal for nook so I guess it's okay??

im content sheeping aro's confident townread on him

lucy was ok with him too

porscha was ... i think she was ok with him too right?

aro had dope reads. he had rondo as town. he was cool

why not sheep rondo's read on nook maf? rondo had dope reads. he had lucy as town. he was cool

He had me as scum, he lost his cool factor

It was a question for tutuu to answer cuz I'm trying to pickaxe her brain but I understand your pov lol

Where's your pickaxe small baby Porscha?

Lol
First of all, I wouldnt be caught dead playing minecraft okay

[Porscha]

Second of all, it's like the pickaxe in the gen 4 pokemon remake underground mining

[Porscha]

Sheeping dead town is a tactic wolves do to townside and so they aren't held accountable.

Which is what tutuu is doing

But I said I wasn't going to push people today because I don't want to be accused of power wolfing.

If shes mafia and wants to townside idc tbh

Please show the class where tutuu has townsided at any point this game

Not really the point I was making

Your point is that you believe it is best to sheep aro and that sheeping aro will in fact result only in town siding and not a reason for tutuu to vote someone and go "hehe whoops "if aro was wrong?

[Porscha]

i will 100% be voting falcon later, seeing him be consensus scumread reassures me it's just right, and the other 2 wolves are probably bussing

if he's town - god save us all

Who all are currently scumreading Falcon?

Everyone is scumreading falcon

I also thought nook was maf but many people are now yelling at me that this is normal for nook so I guess it's okay??

im content sheeping aro's confident townread on him

lucy was ok with him too

porscha was ... i think she was ok with him too right?

aro had dope reads. he had rondo as town. he was cool

why not sheep rondo's read on nook maf? rondo had dope reads. he had lucy as town. he was cool

i dunno it didnt feel like a sheepable read

I hate that I like this post

maybe because you've just decided that u wanna scumread me this game (and im town)

i will 100% be voting falcon later, seeing him be consensus scumread reassures me it's just right, and the other 2 wolves are probably bussing

if he's town - god save us all

I dont believe you believe this

i believe it

@WindwardAway i just had the mischievous thought that you're dying tonight and that's good for me coz that's 1 less person pushing for my chop

(not openwolfing, im town, was just a random thought that came out of nowhere)

Not openwolfing lol

i would never openwolf!!!

i will 100% be voting falcon later, seeing him be consensus scumread reassures me it's just right, and the other 2 wolves are probably bussing

if he's town - god save us all

You don't think it's like the Lucy situation?

no, there were people who found lucy as town and that influenced me, nobody is finding falcon as town

*raises hand* I am not scum reading falcon

[Porscha]

i would advise u guys to rethink your townreads on sabi (as sabi is mafia)

It is possible but you have not convinced me

[Porscha]

i would advise u guys to rethink your townreads on sabi (as sabi is mafia)

Why don't you rethink your scumread on them instead

no im sheeping lucy lucy would never be wrong on a scumread

Except for the sr on you, of course

Zzz

[tutuu]

i would advise u guys to rethink your townreads on sabi (as sabi is mafia)

It is possible but you have not convinced me

i cant

and im okay with that

[tutuu]

i would advise u guys to rethink your townreads on sabi (as sabi is mafia)

Why don't you rethink your scumread on them instead

no im sheeping lucy lucy would never be wrong on a scumread

Except for the sr on you, of course

Zzz

that was a funny post (mine) but jokes aside lucy started scumreading me only after her breakdown

stable minded lucy had sabi as wolf and no read on me (because mac and alison told her to be very paranoid of me)

[Porscha]

Earlier I meant to ISO Porscha, and I did part of it. I did a little more right now, don't have time to do the whole thing though unfortunately.

Their D1 does look very townie, and I am not sure what Rondo was seeing, but their D2 thus far has felt significantly more stilted, so while I still think I am going to keep Porscha above-null, they are definitely on my "people to watch closely moving forward" list.

Lol

Why have you been stilted for the first half of D2?

I sincerely dont believe I have been. All I did was give shorter responses with less punctuation

[Porscha]

I've put aside my sabi worry too solve within the more pressing concerns

Tutuu and falcon.

Sabi work with me what are you feeling in a much detail as possible. What do you think of these wagon comps?

Falcon is almost the least pressing person in the game actually and since literally nobody can make a case SR'ing him anyone who is voting him is currently on my shit list for trying to get an extra day offing a lhf

[Porscha]

[VOTE: falcon] aubergine

Mmm vote tutuu

Did you vote tutuu because they voted falcon

Cause I think self pres votes are pretty nai

Tutus reasoning for voting falcon did not begin as self pres so it doesnt matter to me at this point

[Porscha]

OK so what's the case on him if disengagement isn't alignment indicative for him?

there are 3 wolves and i townread everyone but 4 ppl

And why not make a case against any of the other 3 ppl who have content to make a case against

[tutuu]

OK so what's the case on him if disengagement isn't alignment indicative for him?

there are 3 wolves and i townread everyone but 4 ppl

And why not make a case against any of the other 3 ppl who have content to make a case against

ive said my piece on sabi and pyxxy at sod

i can't read wilgy or his content

[Porscha]

Like in what universe does pyxxy not have a stronger opinion or thoughts or want to vote anyone that was related to lucy or rondo or their reads?

Why is pyxxy trying to put attention on an afk slot, without policy reasoning? Just to take attention or talking away from a partner who is getting heat? Like tutuu? Idk it doesnt make any sense to me

lucy and rondo were my reads :/

I've been doing reading since then but it's mostly to find town

here I'll copy paste some stuff from my notes

I've got town reads from strongest to weakest: WWA, porscha (that's you! ), dennis, Sabi

which leaves:
wilgy, falcon, lily, nook, Neon, Sean, tutuu

tiered for the people I feel better about, it's probably lily/sean/Neon/wilgy > falcon/nook/tutuu?

I don't think I have a great read on falcon but I have seen both of his games now, with an additional bonus of him in milo, and maybe I'm just salty about _that_ game, but I don't particularly want to see him in milo again. Is that what you mean by policy?

Like I'm not confident that my decision is "+ev" or whatever, it's just an accumulation of reasoning
- he's not clearly towny
- people agree that he's not clearly towny
- he's had time to make himself towny
- I don't trust him to actually help town win in late game or milo

Bundle that up and call it insurance #geico

(Yes, that is me)

And yes I mentioned it right around the post you quoted but by policy I mean, you want to get rid of him now for not posting. As a "policy", not because he is actually being sr'd.

People agree he isnt towny. Due to lack of posts. Therefore, people agree he isnt wolfy. Its just a shrug yeet because we arent heading in a cohesive direction right now. Or tutuu is getting cover from partners to try and get falcon over so they get another free attempt at the PR's tonight. Flipping falcon also provides very little info regardless of what he flips, which even tutuu has pointed out in her analysis that if falcon is wolf, he will probs get bussed in a state where everyone goes "meh okay". You cannot have a chance of FINDING bussing wolves if literally everybody gives up and says "meh okay" because they all said the same thing...

Shrug yeets in a game state where a lot has happened is something I personally really really REALLY dislike because it means town feels lost, incapable of digging in to find the wolves, weak scum reads, etc. Its sitting back and shrugging in the face of a war outside your front door

There are reasons to SR multiple players. I suggest you create a poe of more than 1 player who has done nothing to suggest he is wolfing

[Porscha]

OK so what's the case on him if disengagement isn't alignment indicative for him?

there are 3 wolves and i townread everyone but 4 ppl

And why not make a case against any of the other 3 ppl who have content to make a case against

ive said my piece on sabi and pyxxy at sod

i can't read wilgy or his content

So you have reasons to sr sabi and pyxxy more than falcon and you're on falcon... why?

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

Sheeping dead town is a tactic wolves do to townside and so they aren't held accountable.

Which is what tutuu is doing

But I said I wasn't going to push people today because I don't want to be accused of power wolfing.

If shes mafia and wants to townside idc tbh

Please show the class where tutuu has townsided at any point this game

Not really the point I was making

Your point is that you believe it is best to sheep aro and that sheeping aro will in fact result only in town siding and not a reason for tutuu to vote someone and go "hehe whoops "if aro was wrong?

What

No?

Lol

My point was...IF sabi thinks mafia use sheeping dead town to townside, and they think tutu is doing that...that's not a bad thing and should inform the rest of their reads.

[tutuu]

OK so what's the case on him if disengagement isn't alignment indicative for him?

there are 3 wolves and i townread everyone but 4 ppl

And why not make a case against any of the other 3 ppl who have content to make a case against

ive said my piece on sabi and pyxxy at sod

i can't read wilgy or his content

So you have reasons to sr sabi and pyxxy more than falcon and you're on falcon... why?

because nobody is voting sabi or pyxxy and falcon was/is the competing wagon versus me lol

[Porscha]

Pyxxy I am willing to meet you in the middle here and if falcon has done fuck all by eod 3, and we are really lost, we can just off him. I feel that right now people are being opportunistic about him and I dislike it

[pyxxy]

Like in what universe does pyxxy not have a stronger opinion or thoughts or want to vote anyone that was related to lucy or rondo or their reads?

Why is pyxxy trying to put attention on an afk slot, without policy reasoning? Just to take attention or talking away from a partner who is getting heat? Like tutuu? Idk it doesnt make any sense to me

lucy and rondo were my reads :/

I've been doing reading since then but it's mostly to find town

here I'll copy paste some stuff from my notes

I've got town reads from strongest to weakest: WWA, porscha (that's you! ), dennis, Sabi

which leaves:
wilgy, falcon, lily, nook, Neon, Sean, tutuu

tiered for the people I feel better about, it's probably lily/sean/Neon/wilgy > falcon/nook/tutuu?

I don't think I have a great read on falcon but I have seen both of his games now, with an additional bonus of him in milo, and maybe I'm just salty about _that_ game, but I don't particularly want to see him in milo again. Is that what you mean by policy?

Like I'm not confident that my decision is "+ev" or whatever, it's just an accumulation of reasoning
- he's not clearly towny
- people agree that he's not clearly towny
- he's had time to make himself towny
- I don't trust him to actually help town win in late game or milo

Bundle that up and call it insurance #geico

(Yes, that is me)

And yes I mentioned it right around the post you quoted but by policy I mean, you want to get rid of him now for not posting. As a "policy", not because he is actually being sr'd.

People agree he isnt towny. Due to lack of posts. Therefore, people agree he isnt wolfy. Its just a shrug yeet because we arent heading in a cohesive direction right now. Or tutuu is getting cover from partners to try and get falcon over so they get another free attempt at the PR's tonight. Flipping falcon also provides very little info regardless of what he flips, which even tutuu has pointed out in her analysis that if falcon is wolf, he will probs get bussed in a state where everyone goes "meh okay". You cannot have a chance of FINDING bussing wolves if literally everybody gives up and says "meh okay" because they all said the same thing...

Shrug yeets in a game state where a lot has happened is something I personally really really REALLY dislike because it means town feels lost, incapable of digging in to find the wolves, weak scum reads, etc. Its sitting back and shrugging in the face of a war outside your front door

There are reasons to SR multiple players. I suggest you create a poe of more than 1 player who has done nothing to suggest he is wolfing

lmao this is like the reverse of when I was catching up on that one game and you were like "pet pet look here comes pyxxy he'll see the posts where I clearly do the thing he's asking for later" XDDDD